June, I am sending this to Betty and Allen Johannes for "all things Russ". They are not in the cemetery books nor the Bible books. Dee All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm _____ From: June Gardner [mailto:junegardner1@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 10:18 PM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: Bladen_County_lookup RE: Nos 32-32 Dee, I am looking for the death dates and burial place of James Poynter Russ, b. 1803, and Hannah. His father is buried at Carvers Creek and probably both wives, Lydia and Mary Poynter. The son and daughter in law may be buried their also. Please check for me. Thanks, June Gardner
Hi Christie They are not listed in this book. The only John Sinclair shown is in Cumberland County, August of 1806 which is probably too early for either John C. Sinclair to have been there. Dee All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm _____ From: GraveyardGal72@aol.com [mailto:GraveyardGal72@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:56 AM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: Bladen_County_lookup Dee, When you get a chance, could you please look in the N.C. Bastardy Bonds, #136, for a record pertaining to: Archie A. Lowry b. 9-5-1861 son of Dianna A. Lowry and John C. Sinclair All concerned are from Robeson County, N.C. I am trying to verify something I saw on someone's web site. Thanks! Christie _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .
June, They are not listed. They are not in the Bladen Marriage book either. The bride's date of birth is not included in any marriage book that I have. Dee All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County Genweb site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm _____ From: June Gardner [mailto:junegardner1@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:06 PM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: Bladen_County_lookup Please look up in No. 8, marriage records for Bladen County for the record of James Poynter Russ and Hannah. He was born in 1803 in Bladen County. I believe they were married around 1825. Would like to know maiden name and date of birth of Hannah. Thanks, June Gardner
We have info on James P & Hannah - children -- but no maiden name or birth on Hannah. Maybe Kay will come aboard with the info. Betty & Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Thompson" <d7777@worldnet.att.net> To: "'June Gardner'" <junegardner1@bellsouth.net>; <NCBLADEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Bladen_County_lookup > June, > > They are not listed. They are not in the Bladen Marriage book either. The > bride's date of birth is not included in any marriage book that I have. > > Dee > > > > All lookup requests will be permanently archived on the Bladen County > Genweb > site. For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for > lookups > refer to this Link: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm > > > > _____ > > From: June Gardner [mailto:junegardner1@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 9:06 PM > To: d7777@worldnet.att.net > Subject: Bladen_County_lookup > > > > Please look up in No. 8, marriage records for Bladen County for the record > of James Poynter Russ and Hannah. He was born in 1803 in Bladen County. > I > believe they were married around 1825. Would like to know maiden name and > date of birth of Hannah. Thanks, June Gardner > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lmsutton36 Surnames: CARTER, RAVEN, COOPER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.bladen/1626.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I have a William Jefferson Carter, born NC on April 12, 1841. He moved to GA, married and raised a family. He died in Fayette County, GA. I have no information on his parents. If this rings any bells, let me know. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Jeanette, Let's try some of these. >From book # 492 PLUMER (PLUMMER), JEREMIAH Jeremiah Plumer, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Plumer was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 7. PLUMER, JOHN John Plumer, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Plumer was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 6. PLUMER, WILLIAM William Plumer, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Plumer was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 6. PLUMER, ZACK Zack Plumer, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Plumer was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 6. BUTLER, JOSEPH Joseph Butler, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Butler was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 7. BUTLER, SAMUEL Samuel Butler, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Butler was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 6. BUTLER, STEPHEN Stephen Butler, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Butler was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 28; Papers, II, V HOLLINGSWORTH, HENRY (shown s being from Duplin County) HOLLINGSWORTH, JOHN John Hollingsworth, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Hollingsworth was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 29; Papers, II, 7. HOLLINGSWORTH, SAMUEL Samuel Hollingsworth, of Bladen County, served under Capt. James Council. Since, according to Caswell, Council participated in the battle of Moores Creek Bridge, Hollingsworth was possibly in the encounter. Journal "A", 8; Papers, I, 13. Jeanette, in the Bladen County Heritage book, # 17, there are no cross references between the Hollingsworth, Butler and Plumer/Plummer families - or in any combination. Now for the good news: These three family names are heavily researched by people on the Bladen List. They will jump in to help you immediately and Jerome Tew, our resident authority on North Carolina Revolutionary War Soldiers will pop up with RW information. I believe that the three lists you remember seeing emanated from Jerome. I'll keep watching to see how this develops. We won't desert you. Dee _____ From: Jeanette [mailto:pjkh@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:27 PM To: DeHavenThompson@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: Bladen_County_lookup Hi Dee! Thank you for all the great things you do for this site! I saw the first list of Rev. War Pensioners but where are the other two lists that were mentioned? I am trying to tie together the Plummers with the Butlers and Hollingsworths. My William H. Plummer b. 1816 NC is first found in Perry Co., AL and married Mary Lavinia Jones there. He named his second dau. Mary Butler Plummer, so I'm thinking his parents were Mary Butler, b. abt 1796 NC, dau. of Zachariah, and ____ Plummer. He may have been J.__ Plummer. I know he had a sister, Margaret "Maggie" who m. Isaac Hollingsworth and lived in Cumberland Co., NC. Is there anything to be found about a marriage that early? I found Maggie on the 1850 Cumberland Census with John Plummer, 54, Susan A., 37, Emily 26, Margaret 20, and Mary 2. This looks like Mary Butler, the mother, died and John remarried to a Susan A. and had a child named Mary. Can these be my line? Does any of this ring a bell? Is it known who the parents of this John Plummer were? God Bless You for your good work! Jeanette (I am 81 now and no longer can travel for my genealogy.) pjkh@comcast.net
LeRoy, This is all that I can find: Margaret Johnson, b. 1670, was the daughter of Nathaniel Johnson (b. 7 April, 1644, Kibbelsworth, Durham, England, d. July, 1712 at Silk Hope, St. Thomas Parish, near Charleston, Seychelles) and Ann Overton, b, 1650. She was the granddaughter of William Johnson, b. 1610 and Margaret Sherwood, b. 1620. Margaret had a brother Robert, b. 1677; a brother William; a sister Anne and an unknown sister. As you know, Margaret married Jonah Lynch. Jonah Lynch, b. 1656, was the son of Thomas Lynch, b. 1630, Galway, Connaught, Ireland, and Margaret Quinn. He was the grandson of Pierce Lynch, b. 1610, Galway, Connaught, Ireland, and Ellin Martin; great grandson of Jonah Lynch, b. 1590, Galway, Connaught, Ireland and Eltish Skerrit. (I can go back a few more generations on this side.) Margarets father, Nathaniel Johnson was the18th Governor of South Carolina, March 1703-November 26, 1709. (I have a wonderful full-page picture of a portrait done of Nathaniel in 1705) Nathaniel Johnson (Sir, Knight, Cacique, Landgrave) arrived 29 May 1683 from Holton Gardern, County Middlesex, England. Margarets brother, Captain William Johnson, was commander of the ship Lizard. He imported over 100 servants and Negroes. Margarets brother, Robert Johnson, was the 23rd British <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain> colonial Governor of the Province of South Carolina <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_South_Carolina> , August 10, 1717-December 21, 1719, and again from 1729-1735. His maternal grandson was South Carolina Congressman Ralph Izard <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Izard> . >From book # 140 (click on the link below my name) Robert Johnsons will that was written 21 December 1734 and filed 9 August 1735 mentions daughters Mary and Margaret and son Nathaniel (among others) and plantations Silk Hope and New Kibbelsworth (see above). (I have over a dozen cites for the above information) >From book # 349 SILK HOPE PLANTATION HOME AND BURIAL PLACE OF SIR NATHANIEL JOHNSON, BORN IN THE COUNTY OF DURHAM, ENGLAND, IN 1644, KNIGHTED IN 1680, WAS A MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT, AND GOVERNOR OF LEEWARD ISLANDS. HE CAME TO SOUTH CAROLINA IN 1683 AND SETTLED T SILK HOPE. FROM HERE HE SENT, IN 1699, SAMPLES OF SILK TO ENGLAND. HE WAS GOVERNOR OF SOUTH CAROLINA FROM 1702 TO 1709. GOVERNOR CORNWALLIS HAD HIS HEADQUARTERS HERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS DURING THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. (a chapter follows on Nathaniel Johnson). Dee _____ From: LeRoy W Watson/ARIFA [mailto:lww@arifa.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:52 PM To: d7777@worldnet.att.net Subject: Bladen_County_lookup I am a direct descendant of Margaret Lynch and Elias Horry II (georgetown South Carolina). Margaret is the daughter of Johnson Lynch and grandaughter of Jonah Lynch and Margaret Johnson. Are there any records on Margaret Johnson ? L. W. Watson III Arias Fábrega & Fábrega Abogados Apartado 0816-01098 Panamá, Rep. of Panamá Tel. (507) 205 7000 Fax (507) 205 7002 lww@arifa.com **************************************************************************** ***************************** CLIENT-ATTORNEY CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATION. COMUNICACION CLIENTE-ABOGADO CONFIDENCIAL Y PRIVILEGIADA. **************************************************************************** *****************************
In a message dated 4/11/2007 3:03:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ncbladen-request@rootsweb.com writes: http://cookes.us/genindex.html Mr. Cooke, Don't know if you're the Jim Cooke/Jim Cook I've contacted before or not, but looking at your web site - there are some errors in info you show on my direct line of HOLLINGSWORTH/CARROLL. I understand there is more than one Jim Cook, so if I've got the wrong one as far as contacting before, please excuse. Would be glad to give you info if you'd like - it's massive, I know - just finished going thru part of it, but sure would like to see those corrected in the event that others may see them also & pick up the wrong ones - you know how it is once someone sees it on the 'Web........ Thank you, Sarah Howell Studstill ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Off-lists, someone recently asked me about the Defective, Delinquent and Dependant Census of 1880. While I have used it many times, I have only been able to locate it at NARA in DC rather than online----I am confident it is also available in other repositories. Meanwhile, the online DOLLARHIDE census book tells all one needs to know about that and all the other U.S. census records, so I decided to provide the link. Mr. DOLLARHIDE explains far better than I. http://genealogyblog.com/proquest/dollarhides-the-census-book-is-online-and-free-5164
Hey --- We like this dialogue. Good to hear all the good stuff. NOW - try to bring back some of the spirits of our kin from the 1700s & 1800s. Allen Betty & Allen Johannes abelj@htcomp.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Cooke" <thejimcooke@yahoo.com> To: <ncbladen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Cains of Bladen Co N.C. (Final) Kay & Butch, We should let everyone return to genealogy on this site. My email is "thejimcooke@yahoo.com". "jimcooke" was taken. I remember corresponding with the two of you. I also had my feet XRayed at Collins, sold used newspapers to Butler's fish market, delivered the Fayetteville Observer, clerked at Kermit's Grocery, got a 5-cent/hour raise and 2% commission at Western Auto, and measured allotment crops for the Federal Goverment, before leaving E-town. I have not been able to connect the Cooks of Cook's Plumbing with my family. I reconnize all the names listed. I understand that Roy Cain has passed away. Jim Cooke --- Butch Butler <bbutler@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, In continuation of "old home week", I remember > Collins Store and the > Xray machine.....also remember Fowler-Simmons, > Leinwands, and several > others. You may recall Butler's Café across from the > Courthouse (my Uncle > Virt Butler was the owner) and Butler Machinery > Company up the hill from the > slaughter house on 701 South (My Uncle Vernon Butler > owned that one). I knew > a few of Betty Jo's friends, Elizabeth Lehto, Dixie > Brisson, Haig > Bowman.......and then there was Charles Straughan. > > Thanks for the memories, > > Butch > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbladen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ncbladen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Bulletetal@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:42 PM > To: ncbladen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBLADEN] Cains of Bladen Co N.C. > > Jim > > I must be a couple of years behind you at Etown. I > know Betty Jo is one > year > ahed of me. I graduated in 1958. I was Sylvia Kay > Russ. Small world. I > know > Roy Cain mentioned you from time to time but I had > thought it was just a > relationship via email. I sent you a little Lennon > info several years ago. > Both > you and Butch may see the small world again. A > couple of weeks ago I got > an > email from Walter Elmore after he found we shared > some Elwell ancestors in > Kelly. It turned out he is Maria Morgan's husband. > Remember the old > Collins-Morgan Store that her Daddy ran next to the > theater. The first > store I can remember where kids could get their feet > xrayed to be sure > their shoes fit. > Trying to remember Cookes in Etown the only one > that comes to mind is is > Cookes Plumbing and right at this times I can't > come up with his first > name. > > Kay > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/754 - > Release Date: 4/9/2007 > 10:59 PM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
thejimcooke@yahoo.com wrote: I have data on the SELLERS at "cookes.us"------- Jim Cooke, thank you! I shall immediately take a look. fran > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Fran, I have data on the SELLERS at "cookes.us" . My ggg- grandmother was Rhoda Sellers. However, I do not see a John Sellers in Bladen County that fits your dates. There were many SELLERS later in neighboring Brunswick and Sampson Counties. Brunswick was formed from part of Bladen county. Sampson was formed from Duplin County in 1784. Perhaps you could find somethong in those counties. Jim Cooke --- Fran <awkoska@comcast.net> wrote: > James WEST sold his Bladen lands 11 August 1772 to > John SELLERS. I would > like to correspond with folks who are researching > John SELLERS of > Bladen. > > Thanks. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NCBLADEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >
James WEST sold his Bladen lands 11 August 1772 to John SELLERS. I would like to correspond with folks who are researching John SELLERS of Bladen. Thanks.
A few weeks ago I got a huge package from the National Society of Colonial Dames of America. Inside were the original applications for membership for my mother, two aunts, grandmother, and 2 great grandmothers. The enclosed letter explained that they had completed digitization of all of their records and were attempting to return the original paperwork to the family. I already had all of the information but it was wonderful seeing it. I have no idea if other societies are doing the same thing but it would be worth checking with each to see if they have no longer need the originals. These paper records take up a huge amount of space so they may have destroyed them as they were scanned. Dee For a detailed bibliography on the reference sources used for lookups refer to this Link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm
Anyone researching these families? If so, how did Elias MCLEMORE come to own land patented by James WEST? I cannot go to Bladen to backtrack the land. Thanks. Fran __________________________________ 1803,.Bladen Deed Bk 34 pg 52.Elias McLemore to James Huston.half of 200 a land on NE side of Little Turnbull. patented by James West. Wit: John McMillian, Wm. McLemore
Announcing the release of the "Robeson Scribe" a (16) sixteen page genealogical quarterly, publication of the Robeson County Historical & Genealogical Society, Lumberton, NC. www.rootsweb.com/~ncrcgs2/index.html Contents of this Robeson Scribe: 1. Obituary of Laura Godwin Hudson 2. Will of Nancy Currie 3. Travis Pittman 4. Civil Court Jurors, October 1913 5. G. B. McLeod to Build New Residence. 6. H. B. Ward of Rowland Dead. 7. Pension Application of James Kersey 8. Rancke Home Remodeled 9. Robeson County School Committees - 1900 10. Application of John Hall for Restoration of Citizenship 11. Obituary of Emily McD. McAllister 12. Robesonians in the Dictionary of North Carolina Biography. 13. Townsend and Fuller Exchange Real Estate 14. Will of Thomas Townsend 15. Act to legitimate Henry Brown - 1826 16. Sale of Land for Taxes - 1914 17. Unclaimed Letter - 1914 18. Sheriff McNeill Moving 19. Death of W. C. Powell 20. Katie Prevatt Dead 21. Miscellaneous Death Notices 22. Photo of Lumberton Railroad Station @ 1905 23. Musselwhite lineage of Sam West WE, THE MEMBERS OF THE ROBESON COUNTY HISTORICAL & GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OWE MANY MANY MANY THANKS TO SYLVIA TARLETON NIVEN - EDITOR, FOR HER UNTIRELESS EFFORTS IN PUBLISHING THESE WONDERFUL PUBLICATIONS ! ! ! ! ! ! A GENEALOGIST'S GOLDMINE ! ! !
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: abrown1714 Surnames: Daniels, Daniel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.bladen/3054/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking to find information on the following persons. Reverend William Henry Daniels Clifford Daniels John C. Daniels John Cleveland Daniels They may have lived in the Carver's Creek or East Arcadia community of Bladen County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I graduated from E-town in 1957. I drove the 'white' Model A. Ford Roadster. Several people you mention were in my class. I don't live in NC now but when I return to NC I always get some pool room hamburgers. Wayne Atkinson Butch Butler <bbutler@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, In continuation of "old home week", I remember Collins Store and > the Xray machine.....also remember Fowler-Simmons, Leinwands, and > several others. You may recall Butler's Caf? across from the > Courthouse (my Uncle Virt Butler was the owner) and Butler Machinery > Company up the hill from the slaughter house on 701 South (My Uncle > Vernon Butler owned that one). I knew a few of Betty Jo's friends, > Elizabeth Lehto, Dixie Brisson, Haig Bowman.......and then there was > Charles Straughan. > > Thanks for the memories, > > Butch
Jim,Butch and Fran, Please don't mind all of us 'eavesdropping' on your conversations <grin> I too find your reminiscences delightful as many of my family settled/lived in Bladen/Cumberland counties and you are giving the rest some insight into life in that area------fascinating!! Not to mention my own childhood memories of our family vacations to White Lake <smile> We still manage to spend the day there now and again! Thanks for sharing, Debi --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Yep. The last time I was in Butlers Cafe it was owned by Ticket Taylor. Butch you are young enough to know him. Maybe you were even one of the lucky ones that got a ticket for a "glass pac Muffler" I think they were called. Butch or Jim or anyone else Do you know of the outcome of the old Believed to be Russ Cemetery some where on the Maryanna Russ Bridger land south on 87. I keep thinking I'll come up with a burial place for some of the Russes on that side of the River. I believe that most of the Russes from the Kelly side of the River were buried at Carvers Creek Methodist Church until Argulus Poynter Russ #1 died in 1884. The latest one that I know of buried at Carvers Creek was John Russ 1776-1838. Argulus Poynter was his son. I keep wondering why they carried their dead across the river for burial. At that time they probably had to have a mule and cart to get to the river then a row boat to get across then be met by a mule and cart to get the body to the cemetery. Logistics must have been hard. My supposition for this is because Kelly is on the low side of the river and was subject to flooding they were concerned about the body not staying buried.. I can remember in 1945 the community entirely flooded with only four houses not flooded. (The Marine Core brought in Amphibious Ducks and made regular routes carrying food and cigarettes to homes where the people could move upstairs. If you remember Mrs Durham the public health nurse, She came in by Piper Cub and landed on the highway. She and her cohorts set up on the porch of Mr H. R. Allen's store. Dave Allen the Dentist in E-town today's grandfather. She enlisted the help of Isabelle Lomax a tall Black lady. Everyone had to have a series of shots so we were shoved up close enough to Isabelle where she could get us. She wrapped her arms and legs around you and you got your shot. First hand experience.) Anyway the water came right to the edge of the cemetery and I remember when the water was still rising people being concerned about bodies floating up. I can only assume that was the concern that caused burial at Carvers Creek. Come to think of it there was no church in Kelly at that time either. The cemetery that the AP Russ is buried in is Kelly's Cove and has been subject to many floodings and is almost gone. The last time I was there I saw only two marked graves a Charles Elwell and James H. Allen (but his new stone was put there by Leon Smith the lawyer maybe in the 1950's) PS I was only five when this flood happened but I remember it like it was yesterday. The night the dam broke I remember seeing people walking down the road with a leash on a mule and a cow and pigs. Even at that age I knew it looked stupid to put a leash on a pig. I also remember going down the river road to about a mile from the river banks and standing barefoot 10-12 feet from the water and how fast the water was 10-12 feet behind you. All it took was Mama reminding me "Kay there are snakes in that water and I was out of there. That same night after I was in bed I heard Mama say to my grandmother " I never thought Bill would be building a pig pen at 2:30 in the morning." I listened and Daddy and Granddaddy were hammering away on a pig pen in our backyard for granddaddy's pigs. Our house was known not to be underwater. The point I started to state was that the area flooded so often the locals knew just how to react and how to seek shelter. I'd better hush before I get gotten but It fascinates me how people learned to live so successfully on land that could be unpredictable. Kay ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.