Thanks to Dee Miller for the clarification. We have here two John Johnsons who happened to figure in Celia Miller's life. But the coincidence of names is only that, no kinship. One was a Bertie County native who was of British extraction (with possibly some Native American ancestry); he's my great-great uncle, second son of John/Jack and Abbygail. I've posted John/Jack's 1861 estate papers on this site FYI. The other John Johnson was a Norwegian native who lived in Norfolk County, VA (where both I and my father grew up) and married Celia after she left Bertie. John R. was born 1 September 1833 and died 7 October 1878. No clue as to why Celia would have lived with him and his wife Martha; hopefully other Johnson researchers will have some idea. What intrigues me about this is that perhaps my dad, growing up in the same area where the Norwegian John and the Bertie-born Celia settled, might have heard of or known them, and somehow gotten confused and thought that his Bertie County Johnson ancestors had been Scandinavian? Might have known of the couple through the Miller side too since his maternal grandmother was Lillie Miller Dunlow who settled also in Norfolk County. KPJ PS-- Harry L. Thompson has posted fuller Johnson info here, and Mattieleene Johnson has done so on another site, so if you care to see the names and dates for all John R.'s siblings they are available in at least two places. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com