This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Polk/Smith/Lafferty/Bartoo Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/2245 Message Board Post: HI folks, I"m looking for someone who is well versed on the history of Col. Thomas Polks Regiment in the Revolutionary War. I"m trying to determine the birth place and possible parentage of the following John Lafferty. Rather than retype all my info I am opting to copy and paste: ================================ ========================================================= John Lafferty was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. His pension file indicates that he enlisted 10 Jun 1776 as a private for a period of one year, under Capt. ???? Smith in the Regiment commanded by Col. Thomas Polk of the line of North Carolina. Before that year had expired, he re - enlisted for two more years. He states that he fought in the battle at Monmouth, New Jersey. He was discharged 15 Jun 1799. ( place of enlistment or discharge not given) His application for pension was filed through the courthouse at Wellsborough, Tioga county, Pennsylvania. He was granted pension on his application 13 May 1818 at the rate of $8 per month. ( certificate # 8880) With regard to his circumstances, John makes the following statement: " I by trade a Cooper, but by age and infirmity am not able to pursue that occupation. I have living with me one grandchild viz Lucy Bruce ( last name could be Brace, Breen or Braun - not clearly written) and my Phebe age fifty seven and infirm like myself." ( date: 20 Sept 1820) signed by Uriah Spencer - proxy. John’s pension was transferred from Pennsylvania to New York " 28 Dec 1821 from 21 Sept 1821" ======================================================== The 1800 census of Cherry Valley, Otsego, New York shows a John Lafferty with the following: 2 free white males under 10 years of age, 1 free white male 10 to 16 years of age, 1 free white male 16 to 26 years of age, and 1 male 45 years of age and over; 3 free white females under 10 years of age, 1 free white female 10 to 16 years of age, and 1 female 45 years and over. ( This could be our John......) 1810 census of Oneida County, New York shows the following: "Lafedy" ( no first initial) with 2 males under 10 yrs, 1 male 10 - 16 years, and 1 male over 45 yrs; 1 female under 10 yrs, 1 female 10 - 16 yrs, and 1 female over 45 yrs. Also lists: " E Lafedy" with 2 males under 10 yrs, 1 male 16 - 26 yrs, and 1 female 16 - 26 yrs. *** Could possibly be John and his brother???????? ======================================================== The 1820 census of Jackson Twp, Tioga County, Pennsylvania shows John "Lafety" with 1 male 16- 20 yrs, 1 male over 45 yrs, 1 female under 10 yrs, 1 female 16 - 18 yrs, and 1 female over 45 years. ( this census also shows living near to John, James "Lafety" a Daniel Phillips and Hannah Phillips.) ======================================================== Letter from James Barton 10 Apr 1999 RE: Land Records " Hi Carol, First; in 1947 the Olean Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution in Olean, New York, published a booklet titled " Revolutionary War Soldiers Buried in Cattaraugus County, New York" on page 29 " John Lafferty - Moved to Freedom in 1821 and died there. Pension granted * 17 Mar 1819 from Tioga county, Pennsylvania for service in North Carolina. Age 79. Served three years." ** ( date differs from pension file) And so it goes throughout the book. It does not say where in Cattaraugus County they were buried. Also, the age 79 is puzzling. 79 what? You’ve probably already seen this, but if not, it again proves that this John Lafferty is the Revolutionary Soldier and there is a Pennsylvania connection. I’ll put the pages of interest in the mail to you. Second; I went back through the index to the Holland Land Company Records and actually read what they said. ( HLC) 26 Oct 1821 John Lafferty purchased the original deed to at least a part of Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. This is record 500 - 0002. I think they really mean 1822, because record 500 is their code for 1822. Or they may have ment record 501-002. ( index says 500-0002) In 1832 ( index says 26 Oct 1822) John Lafferty allowed that land to revert back to the Holland Land Company. This is record 510-0021. On 30 Jan 1832, Daniel Phillips negotiated a deed for at least a part of Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. It is probably the same piece of property, or perhaps a different piece of the same Lot 34. This is record 510 - 0005. Ok, we somehow have John Lafferty and Daniel Phillips dealing with the same piece of property, or adjoining pieces of the same lot. Township 6, Range 4 is Freedom, with the exception of the southwest corner which is Machias. All of this is consistent with John Lafferty moving to Freedom in 1821 as stated other places. Now we know, by legal description, Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. In other words, Lot 34 of Freedom, Township……….. I know the census shows Daniel Phillips place as being in Farmersville, but the boundries may have changed, or the census eneumerator didn’t know exactly where the township lines were and thought the property was in Farmersville, New York. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Carol, I noted your query on the Tri Counties website for the name Lafferty in Jackson Township.Today, I was at Wellsboro and copied more Jackson Township assessment lists: 1817 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Eliphaz Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. 1818 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Elijah Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. 1819 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Elijah Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, James 1820 Lafferty, John Lafferty, James - unable to pay for schooling of son John P Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, Daniel - unable to pay for schooling of daughters Amanda and Matilda Lafferty, Eliphas Philips, Hannah, widow - unable to pay for schooling of Wm and Betsy 1821 Lafferty, John Lafferty, James Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, Daniel removed Lafferty, Eliphus removed Phillips, Hannah - unable to pay for schooling of William and Betsy J. Kelsey Jones [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I forgot to mention that families had to pay for schooling of their children until schools went public (I think in the 1830's). There were 20 families in Jacskon in 1820 unable to pay for their children's schooling which became a debt of the county to pay. So, that is an explanation of what that means. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Carol, I am not related to the Laffertys. My interest is documenting the early families in this area and it has been for many years. I have copied over 100 cemeteries and look for more resource documents to make them available, such as the assessment records. I am not sure if you are aware but a portion of the bottom half of page 1 (2 pages total) for the 1820 Jackson census is missing so that is the reason that only John and James appear. J. Kelsey Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The 1822 Jackson Twp Tax Roll Name List of Tioga County Pennsylvania, shows: James Lafferty John Lafferty - removed John Lafferty Jr Hannah Phillips - removed The 1830 census of Sardenia, Erie, New York shows John "Lattenday" with 1 male 70 - 80 yrs and 1 female 60 - 70 yrs Nearby is James "Lattenday" with 2 males 5 - 10 years, 1 male 10 - 15 years, 1 male 15 - 20 years, and 1 male 4- - 50 yrs; 1 female 5 - 10 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. Also: Daniel "Lattenday" with 1 male under 5 years, 3 males 5 - 10 yrs, 1 male 40 - 50 yrs, 1 female under 5 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, 1 female 20 - 30 yrs and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. In the "History of Cattaraugus County" by L. H. Everts put 1879 on p. 393- 393 is an alphabetical listing of "resident landowners in the town of Freedom in 1835." shows John Lafferty - owned 77 acres - improved 5 acres. The "Census of Pensioners for Revolutionary or Military Service" 1 Jun 1840, with their names, ages, and places of residence - pub 1841, reprint 1954 on p. 74 New York - Northern District - Cattaraugus County shows: John Lafferty - 85 yrs - living in the household of Daniel Phillips, town of Farmersville. The 1840 census of Farmersville, Cattaraugus county, New York, shows Daniel Phillips with 1 male under 5 yrs, 1 male 5 - 10 yrs, 1 male 16 - 20 yrs, 1 male 40 - 50 yrs, 1 male 80 - 90 yrs; 2 females 5 - 10 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, 1 female 16 - 20 yrs and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. Phoebe died between 1830 and 1840, most likely in Sardenia, NY. John died after 1 Jun 1840 probably at Farmersville, NY. Burial locations, nor actual death records have not been located. John and Phoebe had 10 children. I have traced several of the families of his children, up to and including me at the present generation. I"m willing to share this info if anyone thinks they might be related, or has any ideas as to where specifically John might have been living when he enlisted, and who his parents were. Also another question: my american history is rusty, and some family members say that John's wife, Phoebe was born of Quaker Parents. Were there Quaker settlements in North Carolina at that time? Please reply to [email protected] Thanks folks! Carol PS. I also have a copy of John's Pension file, which I can type and email to anyone who might like it for "the records."