Bonnie, Thank you for your reply. How do you work on more than one family???? I'm doing well to keep up with the Dunnings. But I understand because I worked on my Britt line at the same time as the Dnnings. In fact, the Britt book was published first. I was reading this message about the Bryants and I see that there is a Phelps married into that family. Do your happen to know of a Jackie Phelps? She lived up in Maryland or somewhere up Northeast. Her mother lived, I THINK, in the Bertie area. Jackie and I corresponded for several years and then she just disappeared. I'm not sure, but I think she used her maiden name of Phelps instead of her married name. She trained dogs. She told me that her mother knew quite a bit about Peyton..... his marriages and his kids and grandkids. What her mother told her was passed on to me. Some things she just couldn't find the answer too. I don't rememember whether her mother came out of Peyton and Pheribee or Peyton and Penelope. I'm guessing out of Penelope. I'm going to label the first Peyton as (I) for clarity. Tell me how you come out of Jeptha Peyton and Betsy Dunning. Maybe I can add to your lineage. You understand that I have no proof from J.Peyton back to Jeremiah, just hard work and bigggg hints from records to make me think Peyton(I) was a son of Jeremiah Dunning. Bunches of people are trying to find a father for him. Maybe my suggestion that he might be out of Jeremiah will help them look other places for something to prove it. Jeremiah(I) is mentioned in just a paragraph in my book. I was so puzzled about who his children where. On the 1790 Bertie census Jeremiah had 3 sons, 16 and up, 5 sons under 16 and 3 daughters. Figure it up....it took 15-18 years to have that many kids.....so that tells you about how old he was and his kids were already teenagers. The enumerator made a big mistake by putting two more Jeremiahs on the census. Only one Jeremiah was on the tax list of Bertie all those years...and one year before the 1790 census and on year after the 1790 census. This Jeremiah(I), and Pheribee, son of John (I) "appear" to have children named: Redding, b ca 1772, died young in Bertie, had 1 little son, Wm. Wm. b ca 1773. married Sarah Sholar/Bruce in Bertie, moved to Hopkins Co. TN John Randolph b ca 1775, moved to Hopkins Co, KY, married in Bertie ca 1799 Jeremiah(II) b ca 1785, moved to Hopkins Co, KY, married Nancy James George W. b ca 1790, moved to Hopkins Co, KY, settled in Weakley Co. TN. Minnie, m Shadrach Holder in Bertie, then went to Hopkins Co, KY Peyton b ca 1790 in Bertie d, in Hertford Co, NC Zachariah - nothing known Th childrenof John Dunning(II), and wife Sarah: John Jr ca 1748, Jeremiah (II), 1750, Shadrach, 1755 Uriah, 1754 Levinia Nichols 1760 Proved by will 1799. My book sold out quickly. It tells about John(I) and REbecca being the immigrant ancestor and the sons John (II), Jesse, and Samuel. Samuel stayed in Bertie and most of those there now are out of him. Jesse also went to KY. My husband, now deceased, was out of Shadrach. The reason I started researching in 1961 was to find the lineage of my son, Chuck. I have proved his line back to John (I) from England. Chuck was the first Dunning to have his DNA checked to pull all the Dunnings of Bertie together. Later found that a DUnning family in Kent Co, DE, from England, has exact match. They go way back in DE.. Do you live near Bertie? Do you know how I can get in touch with Jethro Peyton Dunning men that I could coax to have their DNA done? They have to be fathered by a Dunning. It is only a q-tip rubbed in the jaw and mailed in the envelope. I will pay for it. I have helped many families back to Hopkins Co and then to Bertie and Jeremiah(I). They have exact match as my son. My problem is I just can't document Peyton's(I) family!!!!! Gotta run, hope you aren't bored. If itdoen't make sense to you....question me! Please! Please send me your mailing address. I haven't learned how to scan yet. Joyce 5609 Dana Drive Ft. Worth, TX 76116 --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Bonnie Hoggard <bonniehoggard4@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Bonnie Hoggard <bonniehoggard4@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] John Thomas Bryant 1862-1917 To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 8:12 PM This is just a little info to help you out... Bonnie Descendants of Arthur Dennis Hoggard Generation No. 1 1. ARTHUR DENNIS9 HOGGARD (JEREMIAH M. "JERRY"8, JOHN THOMAS7, DAVID6, ELISHA5, PATRICK4, PATRICK3, PATRICK2, WILLIAM (HOGGATE)1) was born May 03, 1896 in Bertie Co., and died October 24, 1964 in Bertie Co.. He married BERTHA LAVENIA "LOU" BRYANT August 27, 1922 in Bertie Co., daughter of JOHN BRYANT and DRUCILLIA TODD. She was born September 24, 1905 in Bertie Co., and died November 24, 1966 in Norfolk, Va.. Notes for ARTHUR DENNIS HOGGARD: BERTIE COUNTY, NC COLERAIN TOWNSHIP DISTRICT 4 ENUMERATOR - REVEL L. FREEMAN APRIL 5, 1930 Page 22A 11 Hoggard, Arthur D., head, W, 33, married at 24, farmer, WW veteran Hoggard, Bertha L., wife, W, 24, married at 15 Hoggard, Alfred D., son, W, 6 Hoggard, Rufus R., son, W, 5 Hoggard, Dora, daughter, W, 3-11/12 Hoggard, Weri*** G., daughter, W, 1-6/12 More About ARTHUR DENNIS HOGGARD: Burial: October 26, 1964, Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC (2nd) Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 51-109 More About BERTHA LAVENIA "LOU" BRYANT: Burial: Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC (2nd) Marriage Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse M 22-452 Children of ARTHUR HOGGARD and BERTHA BRYANT are: i. MISCARRIED10 HOGGARD. ii. ALFRED DENNIS HOGGARD, b. June 28, 1923, Bertie Co.; m. JEAN ???. More About ALFRED DENNIS HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 10-43 iii. RAYMOND RUFAS HOGGARD, b. September 04, 1924, Bertie Co.; d. April 13, 1993, Hertford Co.; m. HILDA MAE BAKER, October 12, 1947, Bertie Co.. More About RAYMOND RUFAS HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 13-163 Marriage Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse M 47-286 iv. DORA LOU HOGGARD, b. April 27, 1926, Bertie Co.; d. March 20, 1990, Bertie Co.; m. MARIAM "MCKINLEY" CRISCO, April 25, 1953, Norfolk, Va.. More About DORA LOU HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 12-138 Burial: Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 70-243 v. MARION GRAY HOGGARD, b. September 06, 1928, Bertie Co.; d. February 24, 1984, Chowan Co.; m. GEORGE ROBERT SULLIVAN. More About MARION GRAY HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 15-144 vi. ROBERT LEE HOGGARD, b. April 06, 1930, Bertie Co.; m. (1) CAROLINE ELIZABETH "LIZ" SMITHWICK; b. 1929, Bertie Co.; d. August 16, 1995, Chesapeake, Va.; m. (2) FAYE H. ???. More About ROBERT LEE HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 3-200 vii. JIM DELLIE HOGGARD, b. July 03, 1931, Bertie Co.; d. March 22, 1984; m. HATTIE "MEMAW" SMITH; b. 1933, Scotland Neck, NC; d. August 27, 2000. More About JIM DELLIE HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 4-302 viii. IDONA IDABELL HOGGARD, b. April 02, 1933, Bertie Co.; d. April 15, 1991, Bertie Co.; m. THOMAS (NMN) CULLIPHER, February 04, 1950, Bertie Co.; b. April 14, 1931, Bertie Co.; d. November 25, 2006, Bertie Co.. More About IDONA IDABELL HOGGARD: Burial: Edgewood Cemetery, Windsor NC (New 2nd) Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 70-369 Marriage Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse M 50-1244 More About THOMAS (NMN) CULLIPHER: Burial: November 28, 2006, Edgewood Cemetery, Windsor NC (New 2nd) ix. CARROLL "EUGENE" HOGGARD, b. April 23, 1935, Bertie Co.; d. September 11, 2003, Bertie Co.; m. SARAH ANN PHELPS, 1962; b. February 1937, Bertie Co.; d. June 01, 2003, Pitt Co.. More About CARROLL "EUGENE" HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 14-235 Burial: Highland Memorial Gardens, Ahoskie NC More About SARAH ANN PHELPS: Burial: Highland Memorial Gardens, Ahoskie NC x. JOHN EVERETT HOGGARD, b. January 11, 1936, Bertie Co.; d. May 18, 1982; m. EVELYN ???. More About JOHN EVERETT HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse DB 7-115 xi. HILDA FAYE HOGGARD, b. May 26, 1938, Bertie Co.; m. DARVIN CRAYTON HARDEN; b. January 21, 1935, Bertie Co.. More About HILDA FAYE HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 25-595 xii. RUBY GLENN HOGGARD, b. October 29, 1940, Bertie Co.; d. August 19, 1995, Bertie Co.; m. BILLY RAY HOGGARD, October 24, 1959, Bertie Co.; b. March 01, 1941, Bertie Co.. More About RUBY GLENN HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 27-363 Burial: White - Mizelle Family Cemetery, Askewville NC (White Oak Rd.) Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 71-279 Marriage Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse M 59-2031 More About BILLY RAY HOGGARD: Marriage Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse M 59-2031 xiii. JOE GARNER HOGGARD, b. April 30, 1942, Bertie Co.; d. October 20, 1957, Bertie Co.. Notes for JOE GARNER HOGGARD: Joe was sevearly burned at the age of 15. More About JOE GARNER HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 29-301 Burial: October 21, 1957, Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC (2nd) Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 44-107 xiv. SOPHIE ANN HOGGARD, b. January 17, 1944, Bertie Co.; m. GEORGE HILLARY "JOSH" WHITE, June 13, 1960; b. August 13, 1935, Bertie Co.. More About SOPHIE ANN HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 31-253 xv. CEDRIC EARL "DINK" HOGGARD, b. March 17, 1945, Bertie Co.; d. August 08, 1965, Chowan Co.; m. JACKIE WEEKS. More About CEDRIC EARL "DINK" HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 32-42 Burial: Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC (2nd) xvi. SHERMAN DANCY HOGGARD, b. May 08, 1946, Bertie Co.; d. May 08, 1946, Bertie Co.. More About SHERMAN DANCY HOGGARD: Birth Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse B 33-86 Burial: Hillcrest Cemetery, Colerain NC Death Certificate: Bertie Co. Courthouse D 38-95 --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Cruisin4754@aol.com <Cruisin4754@aol.com> wrote: From: Cruisin4754@aol.com <Cruisin4754@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] John Thomas Bryant 1862-1917 To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 6:32 AM Here's what I have Joseph Bryant m. Elizabeth Cale. (no dates on either of them). Her father is Job Cale d. 1824 and unknown. Elizabeth Cale's sibs are Dossey Calvin, William, Mary, Micha/Mickey. John thomas Bryant, son of the above b. 1862 m. Drusilla Adaline todd, (no dates)d/o John F. Todd b. 1842 and Penny Penritta Penelope R. Castellow b. 1844. She and John Thomas had these children Bertha Lavenia Bryant m. Arthur D. Hoggard/Hoggatt/Haggard.. s/o Jremiah M. and Mary D. They had 5 kids. Sophia, Alfred d. Rufus R. Dora and Mariam. John Raleigh Bryant Sr. m. Alice "Allie" Lawrence d/o David Perry lawrence and Arrie Victoria White. Joseph Freeman John Layton Mamie E. Goldie Deveridge Dorothy A. HOpe this helps. In a message dated 8/1/2009 12:34:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bryant7898@aol.com writes: My grandfather was John Thomas Bryant.? He was married twice, the first ending in death in what I believe was giving birth.? From that mariage Celle Crusoe Bryant was born.? My grandfather then married Drusillia Todd and there were three boys and 3 girls.? My father was John Raleigh Bryant.? I am the youngest and only surviving member of that family.? I have coniderably more info if you would like I can send anther time.If this is the right John Thomas Bryant, they lived in the Elm Grove area, not Colerain.? I slept in the home at Elm Grove many times. Rev. John Raleigh Bryant , Jr. -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Aug 1, 2009 9:20 am Subject: [NCBERTIE] John Thomas Bryant 1862-1917 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gcrain128 Surnames: Bryant, Cale Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.count ies.bertie/3459/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for relatives of John Thomas Bryant and his brothers, William G and George R. Bryant. They are the sons of Joseph(1815-1880)& Elizabeth Cale(1835-1875)Bryant. All were born and lived in Colerain. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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