Ann Hughes was indeed the daughter of John Cake - not Cale. This is also my line, from the Cakes through the Cowands. I am also connected to the Hughes. I have a copy of the original handwriiten will of John Cake as well as the will of John Cake, Jr. You are correct in that there were numerous Cales in the area, but Ann was a Cake. John In a message dated 8/9/2009 8:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgwhite@embarqmail.com writes: Scott, Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. Charlton White Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that Martha White's husband was named Solomon. Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the February term of court in 1833. Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton White, so they may have been brothers. Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret was born in 1833 in TN. Hope this helps, Charlie White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John, That just proves the old adage about what happens when we "assume" anything. I've never found the name Cake in any of my research and just figured it was Cale, especially considering how hard it can be to read some of the beautiful old handwriting. Wouldn't it be wonderful if our cursive still looked like that today? Thanks for setting me straight, I learned a new name tonight, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johncowand@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Hello Ann Hughes was indeed the daughter of John Cake - not Cale. This is also my line, from the Cakes through the Cowands. I am also connected to the Hughes. I have a copy of the original handwriiten will of John Cake as well as the will of John Cake, Jr. You are correct in that there were numerous Cales in the area, but Ann was a Cake. John In a message dated 8/9/2009 8:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgwhite@embarqmail.com writes: Scott, Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. Charlton White Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that Martha White's husband was named Solomon. Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the February term of court in 1833. Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton White, so they may have been brothers. Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret was born in 1833 in TN. Hope this helps, Charlie White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message