Food is part of your southern history. Where else but in this area do we have brunswick stew cooked in an iron pot over an open fire? Where else do you have barbecue cooked over an open pit with wood coals? Where did Southern Fried Chicken come from? Food and the way it is cooked is as much a part of our history as our ancestors, homes, area history. Try some of the receipes, u may like them. faye --- On Fri, 8/14/09, K. Smith <kscontrol@windstream.net> wrote: From: K. Smith <kscontrol@windstream.net> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 11:19 PM Guys, I love southern cooking, but not on my genealogy listservers....Can it go off list? -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johncowand@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:35 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe I grew up in Bertie and my mother used to make this (which I wouldn't eat as a kid but my dad loved it). I called my sister and the following is what she told me, keeping in mind however that my mother never measured anything and I am sure there must be other versions: She preferred a cast iron skillet, but I guess you can used something else. Ingredients - One large can of crushed tomatoes (1 lb.,12 oz. size), 1/2 to 1 cup of crushed saltine crackers (my mother often used crumbled up cold biscuits), salt and pepper, 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (my dad always added more when he ate it), and a dash of cinnamon. Heat the pan on top of the stove with a little bacon grease or olive oil in the bottom of the pan, but don't let it get too hot. Add the tomatoes. Salt and pepper to taste. Add the sugar and then mix well. Add the bread crumbs or cracker crumbs. Add a dash or two of cinnamon. Stir well. Bring to a simmer. Stir often and cook down to a pudding consistency. Enjoy. John In a message dated 8/14/2009 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys got to try it....delicious! Claudia Harrell Williams Mmaker52@aol.com CC Bertie County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sharing and discussing recipes and ones locality specific (Bertie County in this case) is to me a relevant part of family history.? Take a look at Cyndi's List "Recipes, Cookbooks and Family Traditions".? Also note "Recipes Shared On Bertie County Mailing List" at >? http//www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncbertie/research.htm#recipes? <.? Enjoy.? ? Lynn
Guys, I love southern cooking, but not on my genealogy listservers....Can it go off list? -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Johncowand@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:35 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe I grew up in Bertie and my mother used to make this (which I wouldn't eat as a kid but my dad loved it). I called my sister and the following is what she told me, keeping in mind however that my mother never measured anything and I am sure there must be other versions: She preferred a cast iron skillet, but I guess you can used something else. Ingredients - One large can of crushed tomatoes (1 lb.,12 oz. size), 1/2 to 1 cup of crushed saltine crackers (my mother often used crumbled up cold biscuits), salt and pepper, 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (my dad always added more when he ate it), and a dash of cinnamon. Heat the pan on top of the stove with a little bacon grease or olive oil in the bottom of the pan, but don't let it get too hot. Add the tomatoes. Salt and pepper to taste. Add the sugar and then mix well. Add the bread crumbs or cracker crumbs. Add a dash or two of cinnamon. Stir well. Bring to a simmer. Stir often and cook down to a pudding consistency. Enjoy. John In a message dated 8/14/2009 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys got to try it....delicious! Claudia Harrell Williams Mmaker52@aol.com CC Bertie County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Stewed tomatoes is what I was thinking of. Is tomato pudding the same as scalloped tomatoes??? I use canned tomatoes, stale bread, butter, and sugar and bake for about 45 minues.....I call that scalloped tomatoes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Byrd" <glbyrd@embarqmail.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe > Don't know if this is the one you're talking about but this is my > grandmother's recipe and this is a very old one. First of all, she wasted > nothing so she used stale or hard biscuits crumbled up. I use slightly > old regular bread and sometimes also crumble up crackers. I use about a > quart of little less. (My grandmother never followed recipe amounts.) I > mix the tomatoes and the breadcrumbled or crackers. Then I add just a > tad of vinegar (more or less to taste). Salt and pepper and add about a > half cup or so of sugar. After all this has been mixed and seasoned > according to taste, I put this in a casserole dish and bake at 325 degrees > until the sides begin to seperate and the top is baked darker or thickened > enough.(Usually about an hour.) > > Sorry, the recipe is so ill-defined but it is one of those things that you > fix until you get it right or your taste or family's. But I've been > fixing this for years. > > Some people confuse stewed tomatos with tomato pudding and they're not the > same. > > Hope this helps. > > Gerald > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:56:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Recipe > > Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the > section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe > for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in > Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? > Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well > as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL > have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get > any....you guys got to try it....delicious! > > Claudia Harrell Williams > Mmaker52@aol.com > CC Bertie County > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00
I use flour for the stewed tomatoes on top of the stove. I use the bread crumbs when I am making scalloped tomatoes which I bake in the oven. Both ways are great. The ones in the often are a little thicker. I hadn't tried adding cinnamon....I will do that.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johncowand@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe >I grew up in Bertie and my mother used to make this (which I wouldn't eat > as a kid but my dad loved it). I called my sister and the following is > what > she told me, keeping in mind however that my mother never measured > anything and I am sure there must be other versions: > > She preferred a cast iron skillet, but I guess you can used something > else. > Ingredients - One large can of crushed tomatoes (1 lb.,12 oz. size), 1/2 > to 1 cup of crushed saltine crackers (my mother often used crumbled up > cold > biscuits), salt and pepper, 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (my dad always added > more when he ate it), and a dash of cinnamon. Heat the pan on top of the > stove > with a little bacon grease or olive oil in the bottom of the pan, but > don't let it get too hot. Add the tomatoes. Salt and pepper to taste. Add > the > sugar and then mix well. Add the bread crumbs or cracker crumbs. Add a > dash > or two of cinnamon. Stir well. Bring to a simmer. Stir often and cook > down > to a pudding consistency. Enjoy. > > John > > > In a message dated 8/14/2009 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mmaker52@aol.com writes: > > Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the > section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe > for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in > Windsor) > and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would > you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I > do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have > not > been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys > got to > try it....delicious! > > Claudia Harrell Williams > Mmaker52@aol.com > CC Bertie County > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00
Don't know if this is the one you're talking about but this is my grandmother's recipe and this is a very old one. First of all, she wasted nothing so she used stale or hard biscuits crumbled up. I use slightly old regular bread and sometimes also crumble up crackers. I use about a quart of little less. (My grandmother never followed recipe amounts.) I mix the tomatoes and the breadcrumbled or crackers. Then I add just a tad of vinegar (more or less to taste). Salt and pepper and add about a half cup or so of sugar. After all this has been mixed and seasoned according to taste, I put this in a casserole dish and bake at 325 degrees until the sides begin to seperate and the top is baked darker or thickened enough.(Usually about an hour.) Sorry, the recipe is so ill-defined but it is one of those things that you fix until you get it right or your taste or family's. But I've been fixing this for years. Some people confuse stewed tomatos with tomato pudding and they're not the same. Hope this helps. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:56:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [NCBERTIE] Recipe Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys got to try it....delicious! Claudia Harrell Williams Mmaker52@aol.com CC Bertie County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I grew up in Bertie and my mother used to make this (which I wouldn't eat as a kid but my dad loved it). I called my sister and the following is what she told me, keeping in mind however that my mother never measured anything and I am sure there must be other versions: She preferred a cast iron skillet, but I guess you can used something else. Ingredients - One large can of crushed tomatoes (1 lb.,12 oz. size), 1/2 to 1 cup of crushed saltine crackers (my mother often used crumbled up cold biscuits), salt and pepper, 1/4 to 1/2 cup of sugar (my dad always added more when he ate it), and a dash of cinnamon. Heat the pan on top of the stove with a little bacon grease or olive oil in the bottom of the pan, but don't let it get too hot. Add the tomatoes. Salt and pepper to taste. Add the sugar and then mix well. Add the bread crumbs or cracker crumbs. Add a dash or two of cinnamon. Stir well. Bring to a simmer. Stir often and cook down to a pudding consistency. Enjoy. John In a message dated 8/14/2009 5:57:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys got to try it....delicious! Claudia Harrell Williams Mmaker52@aol.com CC Bertie County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Well, I don't have a recipe exactly....just in my head. I just put peeled tomatoes cut in wedges in my iron skillet with butter, flour, and sugar and stew them. As it cooks, you can gradually get the lumps out of the tomatoes. You may need to add a little water, but if you use store bought canned tomatoes you should have enough juice. I like to break up pieces of cornbread and put the tomatoes on top....great with a cup of pot liquor:) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Recipe > Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the > section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe > for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in > Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? > Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well > as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL > have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get > any....you guys got to try it....delicious! > > Claudia Harrell Williams > Mmaker52@aol.com > CC Bertie County > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00
Ok all I was just looking at our online site and was looking in the section of Cornbread recipes. Yummy! I am now looking for a good recipe for......tomato pudding! I have had it at one place in Bertie County (in Windsor) and they refused to give me the recipe. Any of you ever had it? Would you like to share the recipe? Maybe others would love this as well as I do....it is soooo good. I figure it must be a Bertie thing...LOL have not been able to find the recipe any where else. If we get any....you guys got to try it....delicious! Claudia Harrell Williams Mmaker52@aol.com CC Bertie County
Can anyone help a friend who is searching for info on LEWIS T. THOMPSON, b. 25 Mar, 1835 Bertie Co., who married MARY ALBINA SWAIN, b. 20 Oct. 1835 Bertie County? Her father was W.C. SWAIN, b. about 1807 in Bertie Co. This family wound up in Bibb Co., Alabama in 1800s.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Reet13 Surnames: Phelps/White Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.northcarolina.counties.bertie/3460/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi all, Seeking a copy of a marriage certificate.. James White married Julia E. Phelps feb. 23, 1895, Bertie County, NC. They were married by David C. Outlaw, JP. Witnesses to marriage was J.R. Saunders & G.D. Legget. This info was emailed to me several yrs ago & I would love to have a copy. If any one can find this for me I'd be so happy. I don't live in NC so I'm not able to go to the Bertie courthouse and get the record. I believe Doc Phelps was Julia's father & Abraham Phelps was her grandfather. I ha ve no info on James Whites family. Julia & James had 2 sons William & Collie both born in Bertie. According to family stories James was murdered while taking his produce to market in Windsor, Bertie. I have no idea what year, but Julia remarried in 1905 in Pasquotank County, to William D. Stoud. If any one has any info regarding these folks I'd appreciate your imput. Thanks a lot Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
John, That just proves the old adage about what happens when we "assume" anything. I've never found the name Cake in any of my research and just figured it was Cale, especially considering how hard it can be to read some of the beautiful old handwriting. Wouldn't it be wonderful if our cursive still looked like that today? Thanks for setting me straight, I learned a new name tonight, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Johncowand@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Hello Ann Hughes was indeed the daughter of John Cake - not Cale. This is also my line, from the Cakes through the Cowands. I am also connected to the Hughes. I have a copy of the original handwriiten will of John Cake as well as the will of John Cake, Jr. You are correct in that there were numerous Cales in the area, but Ann was a Cake. John In a message dated 8/9/2009 8:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgwhite@embarqmail.com writes: Scott, Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. Charlton White Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that Martha White's husband was named Solomon. Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the February term of court in 1833. Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton White, so they may have been brothers. Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret was born in 1833 in TN. Hope this helps, Charlie White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. 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Scott, Yes, the Whites are mine, if I remember what I read correctly, Charlton owned a store and sawmill in Haywood County. The area was flooded for a dam at some point, so it's under water now. I have been researching the family a lot within the past year and have made pretty good progress. The Cobb book is good for research because each name is indexed in the back, makes work go much faster. My great-grandfather was Alfred Jackson White, married Martha Floyd. My grandfather Thomas Jackson White, married Effie Houston. My father was Ernest Vane White, married Melba Perry. The photo you sent from the cemetery did not come through, please try again, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Hello Thanks for all the detail. They have one of those books at the library in Brownsville, TN so when I get there I try and copy as much as I can. This is really helpful. Are you related to the Whites? Attached is a photo I took at Zion Cemetery of Penelope and Bembery. Thanks for sharing the information you had! Scott Williams On 8/9/09 7:05 PM, "Charles White" <cgwhite@embarqmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, > Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I > think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of > them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. > > > Charlton White > > Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly > Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann > Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is > supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate > that > Martha White's husband was named Solomon. > > Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was > listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. > > Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as > legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were > named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at > the > February term of court in 1833. > > Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the > birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. > Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of > the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born > in > Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. > > Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of > households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a > Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. > > (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) > > John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of > 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two > daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton > White, so they may have been brothers. > > Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according > to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. > Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter > Margaret > was born in 1833 in TN. > > Hope this helps, > > Charlie White > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> > To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello > > > I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of > people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN > in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed > and > raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my > parents, > who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting > because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, > obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so > far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: > > John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 > John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 > John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 > Penelope White 1831 1833 > Bembery¹s brother Charlton White > William Watridge 1836 - 1838 > Millie Thompson Watridge 1836 1838 > Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) > Elizabeth Rawls > Solomon Williams > Edward Brantley > Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace > Unity Shirley > If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, > I > would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these > people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. > > Thanks, > > Scott Williams > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ann Hughes was indeed the daughter of John Cake - not Cale. This is also my line, from the Cakes through the Cowands. I am also connected to the Hughes. I have a copy of the original handwriiten will of John Cake as well as the will of John Cake, Jr. You are correct in that there were numerous Cales in the area, but Ann was a Cake. John In a message dated 8/9/2009 8:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cgwhite@embarqmail.com writes: Scott, Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. Charlton White Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that Martha White's husband was named Solomon. Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the February term of court in 1833. Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton White, so they may have been brothers. Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret was born in 1833 in TN. Hope this helps, Charlie White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Scott, Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. Charlton White Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that Martha White's husband was named Solomon. Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the February term of court in 1833. Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton White, so they may have been brothers. Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret was born in 1833 in TN. Hope this helps, Charlie White ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge 1836 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks for all the detail. They have one of those books at the library in Brownsville, TN so when I get there I try and copy as much as I can. This is really helpful. Are you related to the Whites? Attached is a photo I took at Zion Cemetery of Penelope and Bembery. Thanks for sharing the information you had! Scott Williams On 8/9/09 7:05 PM, "Charles White" <cgwhite@embarqmail.com> wrote: > Scott, > > Many of these people are mentioned in the book "Nicholas Cobb Descendants, > Neighbors and Relatives 1613-1983", written by the late Joe H. Cobb and I > think he lived in Tennessee. This is what is said in the book about two of > them. I believe that Charlton is one of my ancestors. > > > Charlton White > > Charlton was son of Martha White of Bertie County. Martha was formerly > Martha Hughs (spelled Hughes today) and the daughter of George and Ann > Hughs. Ann Hughs was the daughter of John Cake (I think this name is > supposed to be Cale, common name then in Bertie). The records indicate that > Martha White's husband was named Solomon. > > Charlton White was enumerated in the 1830 census of Bertie County. He was > listed with one son and two daughters under five years of age. > > Martha White made her will in Bertie in October of 1832. She named as > legatees her sons George, Charlton and Thomas White. Her daughters were > named Polly, Elizabeth, Nelly and Patsy White. Her will was probated at the > February term of court in 1833. > > Charlton moved to Haywood some time during the span of 1830 to 1832 if the > birthplaces of his children as listed in the 1850 census are correct. > Charlton's wife was named Charlotte. They had five children at the time of > the census. They were Alfred, 20 and born in NC; Cintha, age 18 and born in > Tennessee; James, 14, Susan, 11, and Martha, 3. > > Charlton White and Jacob Hughs were enumerated as adjacent heads of > households in the 1840 census of Haywood. Since Charlton's mother was a > Hughs, Jacob Hughs was probably a relative of Charlton. > > (I am going to paraphrase info on Bembrey White to make it shorter.) > > John Bembery White, born 1801 in Bertie County, parents unknown. Census of > 1830 says he was head of a household with two sons under five and two > daughters under ten. Next head of household on the census was Hamilton > White, so they may have been brothers. > > Bembery married in Bertie County Penelope Trottman, born in 1810 according > to 1850 census of Haywood County, where they moved between 1831-1833. > Daughter Penelope Trottman White was born in 1833 in NC. Daughter Margaret > was born in 1833 in TN. > > Hope this helps, > > Charlie White > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Williams" <williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net> > To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:23 PM > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Hello > > > I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of > people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN > in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and > raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, > who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting > because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, > obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so > far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: > > John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 > John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 > John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 > Penelope White 1831 1833 > Bembery¹s brother Charlton White > William Watridge 1836 - 1838 > Millie Thompson Watridge 1836 1838 > Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) > Elizabeth Rawls > Solomon Williams > Edward Brantley > Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace > Unity Shirley > If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I > would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these > people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. > > Thanks, > > Scott Williams > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
I didn't have anything so I checked on Ancestry and found some stuff. harvey J. White b. abt 1796 Roxobel, Bertie co was a baptist minister involved with Pleasant Grove church and served as Pastor to Conaritsa Baptist church 1851-1852. He m. Martha Slade (got surname off death cerificate of son james r. white). she was b. 1806 and d. beforre 1860. They m. in 1826. children: William white b. abt 1828 Joshua white abt 1830 Elizabeth abt 1832 Joseph W.J. white abt 1835 Benjamin white abt 1836 james r. white abt 1838 jane white b. abt 1841 m. Joseh a. minton martha j. white abt 1841 john h. white b. abt 1843 thomas white b. abt 1846 mary e. white b. abt 1847 ema white b. abt 1849 1860 Census shows Harvey J. age 64 james r. age 22 jane 19 Thomas 14 Emma 11 In a message dated 8/9/2009 12:51:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jwhite485@sc.rr.com writes: Greetings, My name is James White. I am researching the White family history, and have gotten stuck in two places. My new friend, Harry Thompson, at the Battle of Plymouth Museum, said I should contact you, as you are sons and daughters and expatriots of Bertie County, mostly living in Texas. He added that you guys are really good at helping fellow Bertie folks out. Our search is blank before the birth of Rev. Harvey J. White in 1796 in Roxobel. Harvey has a window dedivated in memorium to him at Connaritsa Baptist Church, four miles east/south of Aulander. We believe that he had a son Benjamin, who may be Benjamin Harvey White, who married Mary Elizabeth Jenkins, fought for the Union in the Battle of Plymouth, and was MIA and possibly captured. There is no information beyond that. The next part is somewhat confusing. Based on the 1880 census, he left his widow with three sons, John Henry White(5)being the oldest, and who later becomes my father's father. Any help you may be able to provide would be most appreciated. Best regards, James White ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There were a number of Whites and some Cowans in that group. John In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:41:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net writes: I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Dawson Castellaw b. 1780 Bertie co., nc d. 1839-1859 Tenn. m. Zilphia Spruill b. abt 1778 Nc d. 1842. John D is the s/o john C. Castellaw and margaret Dawson. John C is the s/o james Castellaw 1685-1749 m. to Sarah Williams. James is the s/o Thomas Castellaw 1663 - after 1703 m. to katherine Hutcheson. John h. Cobb Sr. b. abt 1720-1750 Bertie co d. 1809 Bertie co??? m. Sarah Capeheart. son of Henry L. cobb Sr and mary Hardy. William Henry Watridge b. 1868 d. 1900 m. Zilpha Elizabeth Castellaw d/o Thomas Jefferson Castellaw and Mary Elizabeth Cole. Dempsey Rawls m. Elizabeth Rawls d/o David Rawls. They had a dau. named Emily Nowell m. to Joseph W. Rawls s/o Reubin rawls and manerva Olds. None of this is verified, but maybe a starting gate for you. In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:41:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net writes: I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed and raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 Bembery¹s brother Charlton White William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) Elizabeth Rawls Solomon Williams Edward Brantley Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace Unity Shirley If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, I would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. Thanks, Scott Williams ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks - some of this I didn't have so it is helpful. Scott On 8/9/09 5:57 AM, "Cruisin4754@aol.com" <Cruisin4754@aol.com> wrote: > John Dawson Castellaw b. 1780 Bertie co., nc d. 1839-1859 Tenn. m. Zilphia > Spruill b. abt 1778 Nc d. 1842. > John D is the s/o john C. Castellaw and margaret Dawson. John C is the > s/o james Castellaw 1685-1749 m. to Sarah Williams. James is the s/o Thomas > Castellaw 1663 - after 1703 m. to katherine Hutcheson. > > John h. Cobb Sr. b. abt 1720-1750 Bertie co d. 1809 Bertie co??? m. Sarah > Capeheart. son of Henry L. cobb Sr and mary Hardy. > > William Henry Watridge b. 1868 d. 1900 m. Zilpha Elizabeth Castellaw d/o > Thomas Jefferson Castellaw and Mary Elizabeth Cole. > > > Dempsey Rawls m. Elizabeth Rawls d/o David Rawls. They had a dau. named > Emily Nowell m. to Joseph W. Rawls s/o Reubin rawls and manerva Olds. > > > None of this is verified, but maybe a starting gate for you. > > > In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:41:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > williamsonavalon@bellsouth.net writes: > > I have recently begun researching my family tree and discovered a group of > people who lived in Bertie County, NC left and moved to Haywood County, TN > in the 1830s in several wagon trains. For the most part, they all stayed > and > raised their families and their families stayed and so on until my parents, > who grew up in the same county in the 1950s. Makes it pretty interesting > because I can track down the remains of their old houses, burial grounds, > obits and lots of information about them. The names I have discovered so > far, and the dates when they left Bertie are: > > John Dawson Castellaw - 1834 > John Hardy Cobb - 6 March 1834 > John Bembery ³Bem² 1831 - 1833 > Penelope White 1831 ­ 1833 > Bembery¹s brother Charlton White > William Watridge ­ 1836 - 1838 > Millie Thompson Watridge ­ 1836 ­ 1838 > Dempsey Nowell (Hertford Co., NC) > Elizabeth Rawls > Solomon Williams > Edward Brantley > Thomas ³T.A² Lovelace > Unity Shirley > If anyone has any information about these people when they were in Bertie, > I > would greatly appreciate it. If you want to know anything about of these > people once they arrived in Haywood Co, TN, let me know. > > Thanks, > > Scott Williams > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message