Hey Irene, I do have some information on the children of George and Lodema. I am interested in their daughter, Eva, who married Robert Dempsey. I am helping a friend research her Dempsey family. I would love to share information with you. Beth bethdix@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "irene rostine" <irenegdnte@cox.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > Hi Bertie County-I was born in Bertie County and I have subscribed to your > list for a long time now, but have never sent in any names. The > discussions > on the list are extremely interesting and informational. I have begun to > work on my genealogy and will submit a request. Does anyone have any > information on the Jernigans?? George and Lodema were my grandparents. > They had 14 children and lived on a farm there. > Thanks > Irene in Las Vegas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:41 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >> Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need >> for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I >> believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around >> and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all >> have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without >> nastiness. >> >> Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support >> you are giving to me and all past coordinators. >> >> Claudia Harrell Williams >> CC Bertie County >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, >> bethdix@comcast.net writes: >> I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my >> husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I >> belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going >> to >> watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal >> health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating >> that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. >> I >> never heard a word in response to my post. >> >> This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly >> while >> researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became >> very >> upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members >> became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list >> members. >> >> I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without >> things turning ugly. >> >> Beth >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> >> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >>> I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group >>> is >>> a >>> truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over >>> 30 >>> lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many >>> are >>> severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail >>> for >>> those with general interest in the list. >>> >>> If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side >>> conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most >>> other >>> lists encourage similar approaches. >>> >>> I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are >>> "just >>> interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." >>> >>> I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my >>> sons >>> in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). >>> >>> I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large >>> cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have >>> taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and >>> interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about >>> the >>> lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't >>> consider >>> myself a "collector" in any sense. >>> >>> Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and >>> enjoy >>> the list. >>> >>> Kerry Smith >>> >>> Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, >>> Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Mmaker52 >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM >>> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>> >>> Thanks for your insight Nina >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb >>> writes: >>> They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is >>> Genealogy. You can't separate the two. >>> >>> For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and >>> SAR >>> and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should >>> stick >>> to their pedigree charts. >>> >>> I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out >>> what >>> each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is >>> hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the >>> future in >>> our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and >>> notice >>> over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I >>> have >>> seen posts related to other eye problems >>> >>> I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from >>> Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is >>> something >>> that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with >>> an >>> open >>> mind. >>> >>> Nina Cobb >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: >>> >>> The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different >>> categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too >>> have >>> two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of >>> lineage. >>> One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The >>> history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each >>> has >>> it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free >>> to >>> post on each board without offending someone else. >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I >>>> have >>>> always said the air is better there...LOL >>>> >>>> Claudia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>>> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>>> pudding-casserole >>>> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >>>> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >>>> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >>>> grandmother >>> >>>> and then my mother. When I met >>>> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the >>> homesites >>>> of all our ancestors on THe >>>> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in >>> the >>>> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >>>> Yvonne >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >>>> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >>>> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Elaine, >>>> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to >>> your >>>> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >>>> > switched >>>> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 >>>> message >>>> every >>>> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >>>> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then >>> quickly >>>> > delete it. >>>> > >>>> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just >>>> > let >>> me >>>> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >>>> > >>>> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >>>> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >>>> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >>>> > up, >>> >>>> we >>>> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >>>> > the >>> >>>> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >>>> the >>> >>>> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >>>> > against >>> >>>> > this. >>>> > >>>> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their >>>> > research >>>> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >>>> naturally >>>> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >>>> > >>>> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, >>>> > most >>> of >>>> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived >>>> > back >>> in >>>> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and >>> dates, >>>> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived >>>> in >>>> North >>>> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely >>> lost. >>>> > >>>> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the >>> pages >>>> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also >>>> > to >>>> look >>>> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >>>> > specifically a will. >>>> > >>>> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >>>> > >>>> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >>>> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >>>> > >>>> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >>>> > >>>> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>>> topic. >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> > the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: >> 08/18/09 >> 06:03:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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I would suggest anytime after October. Would be a lot cooler and if you are visiting graveyards some would be easier to access. Any ideas from any one else? Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 13:35:57 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: I am very interested and think it would be great fun!? When do you think it could happen? Also while there, I could perhaps learn where some of the courthouses are so I could try to get some documents. -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it too. Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@roots web.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a grea t place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated e arlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an emai l to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Do we have anyone in Bertie on there way to the courthouse that can help with this information? I am sure Pam would greatly appreciate the look up. Better yet do we have any Mizell researchers that can assist? Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 13:33:01 Eastern Daylight Time, pdennis@eplus.net writes: How would one go about finding three children who were born and died between 1900 and 1910 in Bertie County since birth certificates were not recorded until 1913? Starkey Henderson Mizell and his wife, Sarah Adeline Mizelle (3 rd cousins), had 7 children, 4 of whom lived to adulthood. The three children who died were Cottie Rowena (for whom my aunt is named), Annie, and Jessie. Except for the fact that my aunt remembers hearing about these children when she was a child, we don’t know anything else about them nor where they may be buried. I have narrowed the timeframe because the 1910 census record for Bertie County shows that Sarah had 5 children, 2 of whom were living - *1910*; Census Place: *Windsor Ward 1, Bertie, North Carolina*; Roll *T624_1098*; Page: *32A*; Enumeration District: *9*; Image: *387*. Most of this 1910 record is spelled incorrectly but it is my family. It should say – Starkey Mizelle Sarah A. - wife Iva M. – son (b. July 1897) Charlie – daughter (b. 1909) The next child to survive (Bessie) was born in August 1911. The final child (Roy) was born in 1914. Cottie lived to be about 8 years old, I’m told. I have been unable to locate a 1900 census record for the family. Starkey died in 1916, so Sarah is alone with the children in the 1920 census. What are your suggestions? I no longer live in North Carolina so cannot get to the courthouse. I do have Ancestry.com but have not been able to locate them. Thanks. Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am very interested and think it would be great fun!? When do you think it could happen? Also while there, I could perhaps learn where some of the courthouses are so I could try to get some documents. -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it too. Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@roots web.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a grea t place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated e arlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an emai l to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Well "PUT", Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mmaker52 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:11 PM To: ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCBERTIE] Digest Mode Option 1)If you would like to be subscribed in Digest Mode, you will get all the messages combined in ONE email every 12 hours. The top portion gives the "index" to what is there, and you can easily delete. Just drop me a line, and I'll make the change to Digest for you. This will make it much easier to "delete" those you're not interested in. Do consider this if you feel swamped with messages that don't interest you. 2)It IS very important that everyone "Change" the Subject line when replying so that it reflects a new subject. This was just illustrated when people quickly replied to a "recipe" email, which really was about family history. 3)We have a very, very large list of subscribers --- 267 to be exact --- so there are sure to be differences of opinion from time to time. Please be considerate of the broad scope of interest of people on the Bertie List. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it too. Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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I whole heartily agree, Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jonefa Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:54 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCBERTIE] Respectfully disagree Since an accounting seems to be taking place, I vote for keeping the recipes on this list, and a respectful use of the delete key (on every computer) used by those who do not want to read about the life and times and products of our ancestors. Faye ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KY421@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, d. 10-22-1700. He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, (daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection with Peele and Knight Clan: dated through 01-30-2009. Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan. Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three children, who all died young. From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and 1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt. Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England. Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington. Additional relatives of Captain Thomas Carter, the immigrant, were the Caswell County Family of John Payne Carter, Lawyer that intermarried with the Worth, Brown, Hawley families. Mary Elizabeth Jessie Carter, daughter of John Payne Carter married Braizillia Worth the youngest brother of former NC Governor Johnathan Worth whose granddaughter was Mrs Josephus Daniel's husband that serverd as Secretary of the US Navy and Publisher of The News and Observer and the Raleigh Times. . I. CaptainThomas Carter Jr #21480, b. 06-04-1672, d. c1710. Thomas Jr's God-Parents were Captain John Lee who was an ancestor of General Robert E Lee. He married (1) Magdalen Moore #22319, b. c1855, (daughter of GeorgeMoore #26541) d. aft 1737. Magdalen: Info from Barry Hayes based on his analysis of Isle of Isle of Wight Co records. He married (2) Arabella Williamson #21493, married 08-22-1695, (daughter of William Williamson #21494). A. Moore Carter Sr #22320, (son of CaptainThomas Carter Jr #21480 and Magdalen Moore #22319) b. 1680 in Isle of Wight Co VA, d. 1740 in Bertie Co NC. Based on data from Isle of Wight Co VA and Bertie County by Barry Hayes. States Moore Carter was the youngest son of Thomas Carter c1652-1810. He fails to list other siblings. Only named Moore Carter as achild of Capt. Thomas Carter. Note: orginal data was recieved from Warren Harrell in 2005. His infomation was from the research of a lady from Murfreesboro, NC. He married Jane KIndred #22321, married c1715, b. 1690/1700 in Isle of Wight Co VA, (daughter of John Kindred Jr #26542 and Catherine Wife John Kindred Jr #26543) d. 1764. Jane: Received Negros Sam and Moll. 1. Jacob Carter #26512, b. 1714, d. 1797 in Nash Co. Recieived personal property. Made gift of 200 acres to brother Isaac Carter 1740. He married (1) Ms Middleton #26513, (daughter of Martin Middleton #26514). He married (2) Unknown 2nd wife Jacob Carter #26534. Unknown: Estate record of Jacob in1805 names minor children Elizabeth, Cornelius, Kindred, Jacob and Moore Carter? a. Janey Carter #26527, (daughter of Jacob Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513) d. bef 1805. b. Mary Polly Carter #26528, (daughter of Jacob Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). She married Nathaniel Perry #26529. c. Chrissy Carter #26530, (daughter of Jacob Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). She married George Foreman #26531. d. Cornelius Carter #26532, (son of Jacob Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). (1) Wilson Whitaker Carter #26533. 2. Kindred Carter #4363, b. c1716, d. 1777. Will dated May 14,1777. Oct Ct. 1777, Nov Ct 1810, Feb Ct 1819. Nmaes Wife: Mary, 6 negroes. lantation where I live, all land, stock, household goods and remainder of estate, except otherwise devised, revision to my grandson: Moses Carter Knight, Daughter Priscilla (Carter) Knight (wife:James Knight #4245), 4 negroes; dau: Charity Knight (m.2nd Absolom Benton), 5 negroes, likewise now in her possesion during the life of herself and husband Moses Knight (#4246) Dau: Winneford Taylor (#4365), 4 negroes; Dau: Penelope Whitaker (#4266), 4 negroes. Exr: James Knight (probably son-in-laws #4245)and Carey Whitaker (probably a son-in-law #4267). He married Mary Odom #4364. a. Charity Carter #4247, (daughter of Moore Carter Jr #26518 and Charity Vinson #26519). Charity Carter was the daughter of Kindred Carter #4363 (h/o) Mary (?). In his will dated May 14, 1777 he gave her 5 negroes, like wise negroes now in her possession of herself and husband Moses Knight. Also names Gr. son Moses Carter Knight #4250. Another dau. Priscilla #4265 married Moses'brother James Knight 4245. Moses Kight was son of my (Pete Austin #1) was my 5th Greatgrandather. Charity Carter was a second cousin five times removed on Gene Reid Carter #16426 who was my next door neighbor when growing up in Kelford NC. The Knight Family migrated from Surry Co VA to NC. She married (1) Moses Knight #4246, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF #4238 and Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. c06-14-1781. Moses: White Oak Swamp & Wolfpit Branch. DB 4-290 1782. Moses wife Charity Carter survived him and married Absolom Benton. In grandfather's will Oct.10,1769 he is named along with his son Kindred Knight who receive, 1 negro. Moses Knight was son of John Knight Sr who was my (Pete Austin #1) 5th Great Grandfather. She married (2) Absolom Benton #4359. Absolom: Had two sisters Christian Benton that married a Mr. Spier and Jerusha Benton that married a Mr. Parker. One brother Jetro Benton. (1) Kindred Knight #4248, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (2) Allen Knight #4249, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). Moved to Chester Co SC. (3) John Carter Knight #4250, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Elizabeth wife of John Carter Knight #4254. (a) James Coffield Knight #4255, b. 1802, buried 12-18-1869. James is my 2c-4r. Harrod Pittman was his gardian for the estate of John Carter Knight #4256, Oct 18,1823 and proven in Feb Ct 1824. James probably was born Oct 18,1802. He would have been 21 on this date in 1823 when he received his inhertance fron Harrod Pittman his guardian. He married Sarah Sally Bryan #4256, b. 1806, (daughter of Major William Dempsey Bryan #2740 and Mary Williams Davis Lee #2530) d. 01-01-1866. [1] William Henry Knight #4257, b. 12-24-1824, d. 06-27-1873. [2] Martha A Knight #4258, b. 10-07-1884, d. 1941 in age 57 yr. dates don't fit. mix-up somewhere. She married (1) William Pittman #4420. William: Halifax Co. She married (2) R V Duncan #4427. [A] Sally Cofield Pittman #4421, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1842. [B] Cicero Pittman #4422, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1845. [C] Ann Pitman #4423, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1847. [D] Cora Knight Pittman #4424, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1851. [E] Charles C Pittman #4425, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1854. [F] Walter Pittman #4426, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1855. [G] Paul Duncan #4428, (son of R V Duncan #4427 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1862, d. 05-25-1882 in age 20 yrs. Child from second marriage of Martha Knight #4258. (4) Sarah Knight #4251, (daughter of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (5) Mary Knight #4252, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (6) Phereby Knight #4253, (daughter of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (7) James Benton #4360, (son of Absolom Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Eveline wife of James Benton #4362. (8) Ely C Benton #4361, (son of Absolom Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). 3. Capt. Isaac Carter #21474, b. c1717, d. 07-08-1792 in St Johns, Hertford Co NC. Isaac Carter was the oldest son and served in the American Revolutionary War as a Captain in the same battalion as that of his father Robert Carter. Not proven is the wife of Isaac but there is a deed dated 01-21-177 from Isaac Carter and his wife Ruth of Hertford County NC to George Outlaw conveying the land given Ruth by the will of her father as filed in Bertie County records. His 2nd wife was Ruth Outlaw per info given above. In Winborne's Colonial History of Hertford County page 72 Isaac appears as head of the family in 1790 consisting of two sons over sixteen Isaac Jr, Lazarus and three sons and two daughters under sixteen: Hugh, Josiah, James, Parthenia, and Martha Carter. James removed himself from Hertford Co when he married Miss Dollie Cotton of the Cotton Plantation family who were the parents of Wiley Carter. His descendants still own the Carter Plantation home two miles fro Kelford on SR #308 towards Lewiston. His son's wife later moves to the intersection of Norfleet Ave and Main St. My family lived on east corner of South Main Street from this family for over fifty years. Isaac Sr was a man of great wealth and Prominence, and the larges known slave holder in Hertford County at that time with fifty-six. His home was in the St John's Section. He married (1) Sarah Browne #22009, (daughter of Dr Samuel Browne I #21962 and Mary Jones #22016). He married (2) Ruth Outlaw? #21508. a. Hugh Carter #21500, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). b. Martha Carter #21505, (daughter of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). c. Matthew Carter #22065, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. 1741/45, d. 1793. d. James Carter #22039, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. 1742/45, d. 1811 in Warren Co GA. He married (1) Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040, married 1763. Elizabeth(wife: James and Kindred Carter moved tom Warren County GA around 1780. Kindred Carter was the ancestor of President Jimmy Carrter. He married (2) Elizabeth Newson #26570. Elizabeth: der Barry Hayes. (1) Jesse Carter Jr #22041, (son of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 01-16-1765, d. 1828 in Conecuh AL. He married (1) Phebe Duckworth #22042, married c1789, (daughter of Jeremiah Duckworth #26490 and Christian Ramsey #26491). He married (2) Mary Lassiter #26545, married 1814. He married (3) Sarah Spurling #26535. (a) Lavina Carter #26494, (daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042). She married Henry Loyless #26495, b. 1750, (son of James Lawless #26496) d. 1792. [1] Redding Jefferson Layless #26497, b. 1808, d. 1870. He married Mary Word Greenwood #26498, married 1824, d. 1856. [2] James Chesterfield Layless #26499, b. 1825, d. 1862. He married Mary M Perry #26500, b. in Twiggs Co. [3] Missouri Ada Layless #26501, b. 1895. She married Charles C Whitehead #26502, married c1800, d. 1853. [4] Georgia Ann Loyless #26503, b. c1815. She married George Ann Loyless #26504. [5] Amanda Layless #26505, b. 1819. She married William B Cabaniss #26506. [6] Martin Layless #26507, b. 1830. [7] Henry Melvin Loyless #26508, b. 1632. [8] Carter Loyless #26509, b. 1835. (b) Lazarus Carter #26510, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042) b. 02-02-1801 in Warren Co GA, d. 05-1870 in Bellsville AL. He married Eliza Lee #26511, married 01--01--1825. (c) Narcissa Carter #26492, (daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042) b. 11-161804 in Warren Co GA, d. 10-27-1860 in owndes Co MS. She married Allen Brooks #26493, married 02-11-1817 in Warren Co GA. Allen: Moved fromWarren Co GA to Lowndes Co Msin 1818. (d) Moore Carter #22043, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). (e) James Carter III #22050, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). (f) Carolina Carter #26546, (daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). (g) Jeremiah Spurling Carter #26536, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). He married Caroline Green #18527. (h) Jesse Carter #26516, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). (i) Susan Carter #26626, (daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). (j) Anne Carter #26537, (daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). (2) Christian Carter #22044, (daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. c1765/69, d. aft 1836. She married Jacob Smith #26548, married c1789 in Richmond Co GA. (3) Moore Carter #26551, (son of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1770/72 in NC. (4) Sara Carter #26538, (daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1770/72 in NC. She married Pete Hodo #22064, married 1788/93 in Wilks Co GA. (5) Elizabeth Carter #26552, (daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1772/80 in NC. She married (1) Michael Horn #26553, married 08-02-1796. She married (2) Jonathan Burson #26554, married bef 1800. (6) Isaac Carter #26555, (son of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1775/81 in NC. Children lisred are shown with a question ? (a) Clarke Carter #26556. (b) Charles Carter #26557. (c) Silas Carter #26558. (7) Parthenia "Polly" Carter #26559, (daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040). She married John Morris #26560, married 11-04-1807, d. 1815 in Warren Co GA. (8) Allen Carter #26561, (son of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1780/85 in NC. He married Sally Edmondson #26562, married 09-03-1807. (a) Jespha Carter #26563. (b) Elizabeth Carter #26564. (c) Matilda Carter #26565. (d) Jettason Carter #26566. (e) Malivina Carter #26567. (9) Penelope "Penny" Carter #26568, (daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1780/88 in NC or GA?. She married Benjamin Davis #22047. (10) James Carter Jr #26571, (son of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth Newson #26570) b. 1792/95 GA. He married Alsey Newson #26572, married 12-26-1816. e. Isaac Carter II #22051, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1745, d. 1805/10. He married Ruth Outlaw #26573. Ruth: Possibly the dau William Outlaw and Mary Wood. (1) Drewry Carter #22052, b. c1770/74. (2) Willie Carter #22053. (3) Lewis Carter #22055, b. 1774/84. (4) Isaac Carter IV #22056, b. 1790/94, d. 1844. Member NC State Leg 183-1834. Maj in the millita. (a) Sallie Elizabeth Carter #21506, b. c 1820. She married Maj. Jacob Sharp #21507, b. c 1814. Maj.: NC Senator. (5) Daughter #1 Carter #22057. (6) Daughter #2 Carter #22058. She married Cornelius Moore #22059, d. 18-23-1823 in Northamptn Co NC. (a) Isaac Carter Moore #22060. (b) Harriet Moore #22061. She married James W Wood #22062, married 1824. (7) Josiah Carter #21501. He married Winnie Holloman #21509. (a) James Carter #21510. Jsames married and moved to Tennessee as a young man. (b) Ely Carter #21511, b. 12-14-1799 in Murfreboro NC NH Co. Ely died at 77 years of age. Was a Merchant, Mason graveside service. Was a highly respecked citizen per artical found inMurfreesboro Enquirer.01-25-1877. He married (1) Polly Murphy #21516, married 04-20-1824. He married (2) Martha E Trader #21520, b. 1819, (daughter of William Trader #21528) d. 08-15-1893 age 74 in Murfreesboro NC. [1] Edward Carter #21517, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1866 in Columbus, Miss. Educated at Emory and Henry College and UNC Chaple Hill NC. [2] Josephine Carter #21518, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1882. She married Mr Bush #21519. [3] Celestine Carter #21543, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1912. She married E F Rice #21544. E F: Lived in Murfreeboro NC. [4] William Henry Carter #21521, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). [5] John Carter #21522, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). [6] Elizabeth Carter #21523, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). She married William J Echols #21530, married 1871 in Senatobia Miss. William: Moved to Fort Smith AKin 1881.Was a President of Wholesal Grocery Co and Merchants National Bank. [A] William J Echols Jr #21531. 1. William J Echols II #21532. He married Fannie Sandels #21533, married 07-1902. a. Willum J Schols III #21534. b. Elizabeth Schols #21535, b. 1903. c. Mont Sandels Schols #21536, b. 1907. d. Fannie Schols #21537, b. 1909. [B] Maud Shotwell Echols #21538. She married C W Hammill #21539, b. in NYC. C W: Banker and Broker NYC. 1. Maude Elizabeth Hammill #21540. [C] Elizabeth Carter Echols #21541. She married James E Reynolds #21542. James: Operated a large warehouse in Fort Smith Ark. [7] Celstine Carter #21529, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). Partner E F Rice #26517, b. in Murfreesboro NC. E F: Received NergoJude. [8] James Carter #21524, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). [9] Dodridge Carter #21525, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). He married Miss Hall #21545. Miss: Lived in Senatobia, Miss. [10] Thomas Bragg Carter #21526, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). Lived in Texas. He married Miss Matthews #21546. [11] Anna Harrison Carter #21527, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). (c) Mary A "Polly" Carter #26569. She married Benjamin Wynns #21498, b. c1745, d. 1805/10. Benjamin: Isaac Carter Jr was a member of the NC Legislature for four years having been elected first in 1830. Also was a Major in the State Militia. His daughter Sallie married Major Jacob Sharp, a NC senator. [1] George Washington Wynns #26574. Married with fout unknown issues. [2] James Thomas Wynns #26575. He married Sarah A Dunn #26576, married c1824. Sarah: Hertford Co Commissioner for many years and had Merchantil Business. (d) Perry Carter #21513, b. 06-06-1803 in Hertford Co NC, d. 03-19-1866 Pnenmonis. He married Priscilla Warren #21550, married 06-17-1824 in SH Co VA, b. 1803 in Southampton Va, (daughter of Etheldred Warren #21560 and Margaret Riddict Darden #21563) d. 11-1869. [1] Eliazebth Virginia Carter #21551, b. 10-30-1825, d. inf. [2] Margaret Ann Carter #21552, b. 02-08-1828 in Murfreesbore Nc, d. age 3. [3] Anastasia Lafayette Carter #21553, b. 12-08-1829, d. 08-07-1864. Educated a Miss Sketchly's School of dance in Murfreesboro Nc. Never Married. [4] Eramus Carter #21554, b. 10-24-1831 in Murfreesboro NC, d. small child. [5] Susan Agnes Carter #21555, b. 09-24-1833 in Murfreesboro NC, d. 06-30-1902 in Phil PA. She married Charles H Foster #21564, married 05-01-1660, d. 03-14-1882 in Phil PA. Charles: Susan educated at Chowan Baptist Female Institute in Murfreesboro NC. Charles was lawyer and proptietor of THECitizen a Murfreesboro Newspaper. Became chief edito of the Philadelphia Record and special corrodpondent of the New York Herald. [A] Carolyn Agnes Foster #21565. She married Dr Edgar M Marbourg #21571, married 06-02-1890. 1. Edgar Foster Marbourg #21572. [B] Ellen Carter Foster #21566, b. 08-03-1864. She married Charles Morton Stone #21573, (son of Charles henry Stone #21574). 1. Charle Alson Stone #21575, b. 08-12-1889. [C] Cony Foster #21567. [D] Carles Joseph Foster #21568. [E] Sue Brown Foster #21569. [F] Benjamin Brown Foster #21570. [6] Rev Joseph Etheldred Carter #21556, b. 02-06-1836 in Murfreesboro NC. Practiced law for two years before entering UTenn and studing theology. Read law under Chief Justice W N H Smith. Served churches in Lexington, Georgetown and Lebanon KY. In 1881 he returned to Nc where he served churches in Wilson, arboro, Rocky Mt and Hendersonville NC. He married Pricilla Dickinson Burton #21576, married 05-14-1860, (daughter of Nash Williams Burdon #21577 and Lavinia Bembury Murfree #21578) d. 08-06-1900 in Murfreesboro Tenn. [A] Lavinia Carter #21581. [B] Joseph Carter #21582. [C] Frank Carter #21583. [D] Naomi Carter #21584. [E] Finnie Annis Carter #21585, b. 11-07=1862 in Murfreesboro Tenn. She married John Edwin Ray #21586, married 11-02-1881 in Wilson NC, b. 01-22-1852 in Wake Co NC, (son of James Samuel Ray #21605 and Delitha Jane Justice #21606). John: Graduated Wake forest College and taught at state school for the deaf in Raleigh unti 1885 where he became superintentent 1896. 1. Burton Justice Ray #21587, b. 01-12-1883. Gradurate Wake Forest College and Cornelle University in Ithica NY. Hods the chair of Cemistry in University of Poerta Rico. 2. Florence Warren Ray #21588, d. inf. 3. Mary Carter Ray #21589, b. 04-21-1887. She married Dr Claude Oliver Abernethy #21590, married 08-02-1911 in Raleigh NC. a. Martha Annis Abernathy #21591, b. 06-07-1912. 4. John Ewin Ray Jr #21592, b. 11-29-1888. Graduated from Wake Forest College, is a physician having interrned in Bellevue Hospital, NY for two years. 5. Ruth Brickwell Ray #21593, b. 10-02-1892. 6. Jane Noille Ray #21594, b. 10-28-1893. 7. Hardy Murfree Ray #21595, b. 07-22-1900. [F] George Burton Carter #21596, b. 12-19-1866 in Danville KY. Attended Wake Forest College. Was engageed in book and stationary business. Assisted father in the publication of Northern NC Baptist at Ashville NC. Went to Liuisville KY in 1888 and engaged in printing anf lithograhing business with the Courier Journal Printing Co. Elected Secretary and director with Styles and Cash printing ferm in NYC. He married Susan Funk #21597, married 01-12-1891 in Hagerstown Maryland, (daughter of Jeremimiah Funk #21607 and Henrietta (Funk) #21608). 1. Richard Burton Carter Jr #21598, b. 04-20-1893 in Hagerstown MD. Resides at Richmond Hill, Long Island NY. [G] Mary Hardiman Carter #21599, b. 10-28-1872 in Lebanon KY. She married James M Brinson #21600, married 1893. 1. George Williams Brinson #21601, b. 04-18-1894. [H] William Hickman Carter #21602, b. 09-13-1875 in Lebanon KY. He married Nellie Ware McGoodwin #21603, married 06-1901 in Danville KY. 1. Rufus Preston Carter #21604, b. 04-08-1902. [7] Ellen Victoria Carter #21557, b. 06-19-1838 in Murfreesboro NC. [8] Mary Priscilla Carter #21558, b. 05-14-1843 in Murfreesboro NC, d. 11-=04-1892. She married Thomas J Williamson #21609, married 12-20-1870, b. in Noprfolk Va. [A] Joseph Carter Williamson #21610. Resides in Tallahassee Fla. has several children, the oldest Joseph Williamson. [B] FrankPerry Williamson #21611. [C] Priscilla Warren Williamson #21612. [9] Martha Perry Carter #21559, b. 05-15-1847, d. 04-26-1867. She married John Morgan #21613, married 1866. (e) Celia Carter #21514, b. 1812. She married T J Dean #21547, b. 1812. T J: Merchant in Murfreesboro NC. Married Celia first and then her sister Parthenia Carter. [1] William Deans #26577. (f) Priscilla Carter #21515, b. c1812. Widowed early without issue. She married Mr Railey #21549. (g) Parthenia "Polly" Carter #21512, b. c1795, d. aft 1860. (8) James Carter Sr #21467, b. c1765. No record to show if James Carter remained near Windsor NC or returned to Bertie Co later and married Miss Dollie Carter, the belle of Bertie County and the daughter of Lewis/Jesse Cotton. After they married the two lived on the adjoining plantation to that of her parents. The Carter plantation house still stand adjacent to SR #305 two mile south of Kelford and is still own by the Lewis Carter's three sons; Harold, Sidney Dale and Gene Ried Carter. According To Gene Reid all of the old James Carter Plantation has now been sold. Over the past years residentual lots were sold on the east side of SR #308. This probably was the same property that his grandfather Robert Carter origionally own before his home was destroyed by fire and later his son Isaac Sr relocated to the St John's section in Hertford County. Not known wheither James reloacated or if he remained in Bertie Country after his father moved away to St John's that is about twenty miles toward the northeast. The distance represents a hard days travel by carriage being drawn by two fine horses that average three miles for eight hours. Allowing for a hour stop for refreshments and short rest for the team and the ladies at a hotel in Aulander. James' son Wilie Carter and grandson Willie P Carter lived here in Bertie Co on the Plantation on both sides of SR #308 that goes from Kelford to Lewisto/Woodville. After Willey P Carter's death, his widow Roberta Harrell Carter moved to South Main Street in Kelford with her chidren: Lewis, Ralph, Polly and Louise. Their Carter Family Tree and History is given in the an later chapter in an artical that I am now preparing on Southwest Bertie County. He married Dollie Cotton #21468, married bef 1814, b. c1780, (daughter of Jesse Cotton #523 and Lavenia Young #219). (a) Eliza Jane Carter #26622, b. 08-02-1814, d. 11-15-1824, buried Jess Cotton Cemetery. (b) James Carter Jr #26623, b. c1822. 28 years old in 1850 census. (c) Wiley Carter #20690, b. c 1827, d. 04-11-1898 in Kelford NC. Windsor Ledger, Thursday APRIL 14, 1898. Mr Wiley Carter of Kelkford was having some fence repaired last Tueday evening when he was taken with appoplexy and never spoke again after he fell. Mr M L Wood reached is side soon after and administered some spirts but soon found that breath was extinct. April 14,1998 His son Wiley P Carter married Roberta Harrell who was a descendant of the John Harrell Sr clan that came to Bertie with his ten Harrell sons from Nansemond Co VA. Wiley P is the only known descendant. Roberta Harrell was probably a next door neighbor. A 1863 map show of the area denotes a Harrell family living on the adjoining plantation There were six children from that union. He married Henrietta (Carter) #20689. [1] Wiley P Carter #18448, b. 02-18-1877 in Carter Farm-SW Kelford area, d. aft 1910 in Kelford Bertie Co NC. Owned property adjacent to the Cotton Plantation. After Wiley P died his son Lewis later owned and managed the property and share cropped the farmland. According to an email from his grandson Gene Reid Carter they still own the house and hope to restore it in the future. WILIE CARTER PLACE--Next on SR 308 as you drive northwest towards Kelford was the plantation of Willie Carter that was located on both the left and Right side of the former unpaved highway. This is where James Carter and his wife Dollie Cotton built their home. Dollie is thought to have been the daughter of a neighbor Lewis Cotton per information about the Carter family that was sent to me by Gene Reed Carter. The house was probably constructed in the late 1700's. James Carter was the son of Captain Isaac Carter Sr who fought beside his father, Robert Carter, in the Revolutionary War. The Carter property extended east across the SAL Railroad and then north where it joined the Harrell farm on the west property line (Raleigh Doughtie lived there some years later) and that of George A. Parker to the south. James Carter and Henrietta were the parents of Wiley P Carter and his wife Roberta daughter of John B Harrell Sr and wife of Sarah Jane Livermon. The Livermon family owned the property that was across the SR #308 highway from the current West Bertie Elementry School. They had children Wiley Lewis Carter that married Pauline Harrell (See Harrell data), Ralph that married Louise Lane (see Lane info later) from Roxobel, and Fannie Louise that married 1st Colon Harrell and after his death she married 2nd Rueben Benthal from Rich Square. Ruben married 1st Fruzie Harrell the sister of Pauline Harrell wife of Wiley Lewis Carted. They were the daughter of Council and Lou Hedgespeth Harrell. Another daughter Margaret "Polly" Carter who married Maylon Parker and later lived in Portsmouth VA. No record on daughter Helen E Carter. After Wiley P. Carter died his widow and their family moved to Main Street in Kelford into the house across the street from my parents at the intersection with Norfleet Ave. Later Wiley P's grandson Gene Reid Carter used one of the buildings on the farm to assemble and produce parts for Harrington Mfg Co in Lewiston, NC. The Carter family still owns the Home place but they sold their house in Kelford in the 1990's. The farmland was split when they relocated SR 308.in the 30' that divided the property. The Carter larger home place was on the left side of #308 off to the right there was a small house up in the field about a quarter of a mile from the State Road. After they relocated the roadbed the Carter house was positioned with the rear of the house facing the old original roadbed. When they improved the road and eliminated the arching curve that went slightly to the north and passed behind the Carter home place it left it with a now small backyard between the house and the road. The former old roadbed had arched a few hundred feet to the northeast from the Cotton Place until it joined SR 308 at the Gravel Pit Road. Today several houses have been built on the right next too and in the area on SR 308 from the Cotton Place to the old Carter Home place building. . He married Roberta Harrell #18449, married 1898, b. 1874 in Roxobel ?, (daughter of John B Harrell Sr #15431 and Lousia Judith Peele #15424). Roberta: Information sent to me by Sarah Frances Harrell listed her husband name as M P Carter instead of W P Carter as found in county records? After her husband Wiley died Roberta moved to South Main Street in Kelford. Living with her in 1930 were son Ralph and wife Ethel Lane Carter, daughters Helen E age 22 and Margaret C age 20. Lodgers rooming with the Carter family in 1930 were Owen Parker and his wife Edith Gay Parker. Owen later bought the Clarence Roberson Home next to the SAL Railroad on Norfleet Ave where they lived until their death. Around 1938 son Ralph, wife Ethel and son Edward were living with their mother on Main Street in Kelford. They also lived in the house next door to my parents on Norfleet Street. They later moved to Roxobel. At one time in the 1930s son Lewis, wife Pauline and sons Harold, Sidney Dale and Jene Reid Carter also lived Mrs. Roberta Carter. They moved in with her after their house on Norfleet Street was distroyed by fire in the early 1930s. [A] Wiley Lewis Carter #18446, b. 1899 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC. He married Pauline Harrell #18447, married 1922, b. c1901 in Kelford Area-Kelford NC Bertie Co, (daughter of William Council Harrell #19591 and Ella Louise "Lou" Hedgespeth #19590) d. c1999 in Nags Head NC - Dare Co. 1. Lewis Harold Carter #19595, b. 1928 in Kelford NC. 2. Sidney Dale Carter #19594, b. 1930. 3. Gene Reid Carter #16426, b. c1932 in Kelford NC. Son of Lewis Carter. Brothers Sidney Dale and Harold Carter. Now lives at Nags Head. Email <grandscarter@earthlink.net>. He married Shirley Leora Peele #16409, b. 09-06-1935 in Lewiston NC, (daughter of John Richard Jarred Peele #16389 and Loryle McClenny #16406) d. 08-28-1998 in Aulander NC. Shirley: Died of cancer. a. Michael Reid Carter #18386, b. 12-09-1941. b. Holli Ann Carter #18387, b. 01-05-1964. [B] Ralph Edward Carter Sr #18450, b. 02-04-1903 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC, d. 1982 in Roxobel NC. He married Ethel Luvenia Lane #17797, married 06-03-1925 in Roxobel, NC, b. 04-15-1906 in Roxobel NC, (daughter of Walter J.L. Lane #17792 and Saphsonia wife:J.L.Lane #17791) #17793) d. 1975. 1. Ralph Edward Carter Jr #19755, b. 12-07-1926 in Kelford NC Bertie Co. Graduated RKHS in class of 1943 Graduated UNC in Phamancy. Now lives in Wilmington, NC . Has a kidney probem after complete blockage of renal vein. Now requires at home dialysis treatment. He married Judith Johnston #21354, married 11-22-1947, b. 10-04-1926. a. Debra Jean Carter #21355, b. 05-11-1851. She married (1) George Michael Farris #21358, married 08-22-1970. She married (2) Linwood Quinn Brooks #21360, married 11-01-1988. She married (3) Daniel Allen Shapiro #21362, married 03-08=1997. (1) Julie Kerr Farris #21359, (daughter of George Michael Farris #21358 and Debra Jean Carter #21355) b. 07-15-1978. (2) Robon Quinn Brooks #21361, (daughter of Linwood Quinn Brooks #21360 and Debra Jean Carter #21355) b. 06-21-1988. b. Ralph Edward Carter III #21356, b. 02-26-1954. Othopedics Surgeon. Pratice in Laurinburg NC. He married Sandra Lynn McKnight #21363, married 07-13-1984. (1) Stephanie Deeann Carter #21364, b. 02-20-1984. (2) Jonathan Edward Carter #21365, b. 12-03-1986. (3) David McKnight Carter #21366, b. 07-01-1988. c. Kathie Lane Cart #21357, b. 12-03-1955. She married William Lloyd Smith #21367, married 02-28-1976. (1) Megan Elizabeth Smith #21368, b. 11-20-1978. (2) Whitney Lane Smith #21369, b. 07-13-1981. [C] Fannie Louise Carter #18485, b. 1900 in Carter Place Kelford NC. Colin was the owner of a Hotel in Kelford that was located on Broad Street that was built behind the J C Cherry Store. The Hotel was first owned by Burgess Stephenson until he sold it to either Jack Bowers or Colin. Warren Harrell his son stated that Colin owned the hotel when it burned. She married (1) Atlas Colin Harrell Sr #19111, b. 07-09-1894 in Bertie Co NC, (son of William Council Harrell #19591 and Ella Louise "Lou" Hedgespeth #19590) d. 10-20-1930 in Roxobel NC. Atlas: Colin owned and operated the Kelford Hotel that was located on what today is Broad Street behind the J C Cherry Store. The Hotel first owner was Burgess Stephenson who sold out to Jack Bowers and Colin Harrell. Colin was the manager and owner when it was destroyed by fire. During the days the hotel was still in operation it was said to be a place where a traveler could quince his thirst after arriving by train and experienced a trip that exposed them to the heavy black coal smoke and sot made from the steam locamotive. In the 1920 census Atlas C Harrell b 1895 and wife Fannie (Louise Carter) b 1900 are listed with son A.C. Jr at 6 months with boarders James U Norfleet b1890, Ruth Norfleet b1895, Nannie U Norfleet b 6-12-1917, James U Norfleet Jr b1-12-1919 and A.C. Johnston b 1883. This would be Alwyn Chesley Johnston that managed the Coca Cola Bottling plant and married Amma Browne daughter of George Thomas Browne and wife Daisy. Alwyn Chesley Johnston was from around Centerville in Franklin Co NC. Once in the late 30's when A.C. was riding in the car with my grandmother, Mrs Kate Dozier Lyon, they traced and decided that they were fourth cousins. As I did not write down their conversation I have no record of this relationship. Colin owned and operated the "M" System Store in Kelford where the current Fire and Rescue Department are housed. It was a rather unique store in the arrangement that had a checkout area where the customers had to pass through a turn style to pay their bill. The store was forced to close during the depression days. At that time Colin and Louise were living on Norfleet Ave across from Stephen Norfleet and his wife Annie Cobb. Some of the packaged food such as pitted and stuffed dates was stored in the garage behind their house. We as kids would sample the then stored merchandise. First time I ever had a date stuffed with nuts. Enjoy then even today. Colin conducted a logging operation and used the No 72 Harrell Siding location to load and ship his logs to saw mills throughout the area. She married (2) Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263, b. 1892 in Rich Square NC ?, (son of John Augusta Benthal #21279 and Unknown wife John Benthal #21280) d. July 12, 1969. Reuben: Married 1st Fruzie Harrell daughter Council and Louise "Lou" Hedgespeth. They lived on West Church Street until their devoice. There were no issue from this union. In the 1920 census Reuben and his wife Ivey F (Fruzie) had as a boarder Norman Parker b 1897. Reuben married second Louise Carter daughter of Wiley Carter and wife Roberta Harrell and had three children: Reuben, John and Louise Marie Benthal. . 1. Atlas Colin "A C" Harrell Jr #19604, (son of Atlas Colin Harrell Sr #19111 and Fannie Louise Carter #18485) b. c1920. 2. Lewis Warren Harrell #19605, (son of Atlas Colin Harrell Sr #19111 and Fannie Louise Carter #18485) b. May 28 1923 in Kelford Bertie Co NC, d. 11-09-2008. Lived at P.O.Box 35, 3703 Buckeye Road, Sugar Grove NC 28679. Tel # 828 297-5996. Visited with Warren May 23, 2002. He had an auto accident in April and was staying with a friend Jerry Green that lived a couple of miles from his home. I had a telephone call from warren asking for data on his Harrell family. I delivered the data I had on his Harrell Family of 1,000 in person while he was recouping at the Green's who were very attentive to his needs. At that time he was a very handsome man. He had poor eye sight and difficult in hearing. He lived alone in a small cottage at Buckeye Road. He stated he slept all day and stayed awake at night listing to the TV and radio. He came by with Jerry Green who brought him to visit us at our place between Blowing Rock and Boone in Mountain Ridge Plantation. We had prepared him a pot of homemade Brunswick stew that he had requested. He had asked me to made him some stew as no one in the mountains knew how to fix it and that was something he really wanted one more time. Whenever I spoke with him on the telephone it was very difficult due too his hearing problem and I had to call after eleven o'clock PM to catch him while he was awake. Never could get him to answer if he was asleep and could not call me because he could not read my phone number due to poor eye sight. Warren served in the US Army Air Corps during WW II and was a graduate of UNC Chapel Hill. He worked as a ticket writer at Bethel's Stock market on sale days. Help manage the Stockyard that was owned and operated by his step father Ruben Benthal. The Louis Harrell family moved from Kelford to Rich Square after his mother remarried after the death of his father Colin Harrell. In Kelford they lived in the fourth house from our house which was across the street from the Norfleet home on Norfleet Street (Ave). After the failure of Colin's M System Store they stored some of the unsold merchandise in an outer building in their back yard. We kids use to get treats from the left over merchandise. Items I recall were dried stuffed dates and candy cherries. Warren attended Roxobel-Kelford School but graduated from Rich Square. In 2007 he purchased the Ruben Benthal House in Rich Square but he never lived there after he bought it but remained at Buckeye Road. He lived ther alone for many years and bought his meals at a nearby county store until it closed around 2005. His close friend Jerry Green would do his grocery shopping and bring it to his house as he could no longer see to drive although he had four abandon cars and trucks in his front yard. Warren was a class mate with my brother Irving "Bro" Austin. He seldom participated or took part in very many play ground activity but would only stand on the side line and watch. A very smart student but usually was a loner when it came to any social activities or taking part in any sporting events. However he loved to fish and read books. Liked by his school mates but was known as being "his own" kind of a man who sometimes marched to the beat of his own drummer which many of us sometime like too do ourselves. He stated on our visits that he and Ruben had gone fishing on the day before Rubin Died. Rubin and my father Hobart Austin were great friends and enjoyed Dynamite Fishing Pond where he carried many younger youths to fish where they had many a cookout fish fry. Warren was buried with his grandfather Council Harrell and other former Parker-Harrell relatives at the 72 Harrell Siding Cemetery. . He married Marie (Lois Morgan) Holoman #20683, b. in Rocky Mount NC. a. Warren Martin Harrell #20684, b. 1955. Now lives in Penn. b. Hanna Louis Harrell #20685. Now lives in New Bern NC. She married James Mitchell #20686. (1) Molly Mitchell #20687. There are Three Daughters with only one named. 3. Ruben Alvin Benthal Jr #21271, (son of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and Fannie Louise Carter #18485). Ruben Jr operated Benthal Stockyard after his father died until it was destroyed by fire. Now lives in Raleigh, NC. 4. John Benthal #21272, (son of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and Fannie Louise Carter #18485). Lives in Farmville NC. 5. Louis Marie Benthal #21273, (daughter of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and Fannie Louise Carter #18485). She married Randolph Holloman #21274, b. in Jackson NC. Randolph: County Manager Nash Co NC. a. Christ Holloman #21275. b. Michael Hollomam #21276. c. Unknown Son #21277. d. Unknown Son #21278. [D] Helen E Carter #19826, b. 1908 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC. [E] Margaret C Carter #19827, b. 1910 in Kelford area, BertieCo NC. (d) William Carter #26624, b. c1832. (e) Robert Carter #26625, b. 1835. f. Kindred Carter #26578, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c175-, d. 1800 in Ga. Kendred and James Carter moved to Warren Co GA c1780.from NC. Settled in Richmond Co GA on the frontier of this new state along Little Germany Creek. This land later became part of Columbia Co GA that later became Mcduffie Co approx 35 miles west of Augusta. Kindred's estate was divided five ways. Although he had only four issues the fifty might have gone to his unnamed wife. Information furnished by Linda Jenson. (1) James Carter #26579, b. 1773 in NC, d. 1857 in Schley Co GA. Cotto planter and a Baptist. He married Eleanor "Nellie" Duckworth #26580, married 1798 in Columbia GA. (a) Wiley Carter #26581. GR GR Grandfater President Jimmy Carter. (b) Epsey Carter #26582, b. 1803, d. 1867. (c) Keziah Carter #26583, b. 1805, d. 1855. (d) Littleberry Carter #26584, b. 1807-1847. (e) Marina "Rina" Carter #26585, b. 1809. (f) Felix Carter #26586, d. 1844. (g) Matha Carter #26587. Married 1837. (h) George W Carter #26588. Married 1837. (i) James D Carter #26589, d. 1854. (2) Henry Carter #26590. (3) Jesse Carter Jr #26591. (4) Martha Carter #26592. g. Jesse Carter #26593, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1745/50, d. c1800. He married Charity Vinson #26594, married bef 1762, (daughter of Thomas Vinson #26595). (1) Isaac Carter #26596. (a) Isaac Vinson Carter #26597, b. 03-04-1812 in NC, d. 05-09-1879 in Keokuk Co Iowa. Met on a wagon train trip. He married Elizabeth Baker #26598, married 05-1802 in Va, d. 1879 in Iowa. [1] Sarah Elizabeth Carter #26599, b. 03-26-1845 in IN, d. 08-05-1875. He married John Lewis Farmer #26600, b. 01p15-1844, d. 07-08-1918 in Iowa. [A] Sarah Christain Farmer #26601. She married (1) Ullysses Sanford Ulin #26602. She married (2) Albert Turner Mantz #26603. 1. Kenneth Ward Mantz #26604, (son of Albert Turner Mantz #26603 and Sarah Christain Farmer #26601). (2) Brittain Carter #26605. (3) Moore Carter #26606. h. Lazarus Carter #21499, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). This Carter family lived near St John in Hertford County. Their desendant later move to Kelford area near the Cottron Plantation on SR 308. He married (1) Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus Carter) #21743, married bef 1788, b. c1766, (daughter of Lewis Powell #18163 and Helen Cotten #18075) d. b1798. Miss: The marriage of Ms Powell to Lazarus Carter also found in the Carter genealogy records. Descendants migrated to Kelford and owned plantation next door to the Cotton Place Family farm. He married (2) Mrs Elizabeth Wood Dickerson Bridgers #21763, (daughter of Jonas Wood #21764). (1) Willie B Carter #21747, (son of Lazarus Carter #21499 and Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus Carter) #21743) b. c1790, d. 10-04-1844. Kept a store in St Johns, Hertford County. He married (1) Elizabeth Carter #21875. He married (2) Winifred Cotton #21751, b. c1790, d. bef 08-1849 in Hertford Co NC. (a) Elizabeth Carter #21748, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). She married John Styon #21749, married bef 02-1846. (b) Lazarus Carter #21750, (son of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875) d. bef 11-1848. He married Winnifred Cotton #21879, married c1780/90, (daughter of Abner Cotton #26621) d. bef 08-1849 in Hertford Co NC. (c) Sarah Mary A ? Carter #21876, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). (d) Martha Nancy M? Carter #21877, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). (e) Priscilla C Carter #21878, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). (f) Abner Carter #21752, (son of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). He married Sarah Ann Everett #21753. [1] Lucy Ann Carter #21754. She married John Pippin Vaughan #21755, b. 1850, (son of Sam Vaughan #21756) d. 1924 in Menola NC. [2] Linda Walker Carter #21757, b. 1866, d. 1936. She married Robert Cobb Vaughan #21758, b. 1860, d. 1932. Robert: Ancestor of Samuel Vaugham. [3] Sarah Carter #21760. [4] Martha Carter #21761. [5] Priscilla Carter #21762. (g) Sarah Carter #21786, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). (h) Martha Carter #21787, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). (i) Priscilla C Carter #21788, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). (2) Martha B Carter #21759, (daughter of Lazarus Carter #21499 and Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus Carter) #21743) b. c1798. i. Parthenia Carter #21503, (daughter of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1755/60, d. c1780/84. She married Shadrack Rutland #21504, married 11-05-1775. j. Lewis Carter #22066, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Ruth Outlaw? #21508) b. 06-17-1819. 4. Daughter Carter of Moore Carter #22322. Husband James Jones received NegroIsabell. She married James Jones #22323, b. 1710, d. 1784. a. James Jones Jr #22324. He married Milecent Bond #22325. (1) James S Jones II #21720, b. 1765 in Hertford Co NC, d. 1816 in Jones Hole, Hertford Co NC. Livedat Pitch Landing in Gates Co NC. He married Ann Walton #21719, b. 1766, (daughter of William Walton #21716 and Rachel Hunter #21717) d. 1842. (a) Sara Jones #21844, b. 1805, d. 05-28-1844 in Green Co AL. She married William Walton #2837, married 09-11-1831, (son of Timothy Walton #21807 and Milly Outlaw #21808) b. c1795, d. c1848. William: Of Chowan County, Hertford Co and Green Co Ala. [1] James Jones Walton #21814, b. 1836, d. bef 1870 in Hertford Co NC. He married Nannie Sharp #21815, married c1832, (daughter of Starkey Sharp #21861 and Eleanor Hardy #21862). [A] Lillie Walton #21817, b. c1861. She married William Drake Scull #21818. 1. Mattie Scull #21819. She married H Hunter Taylor #21820, married 1910. 2. Nannie Scull #21864. She married Dr Jesse Elliott Ward #21865, b. in Robersonvlle, NC. [B] Nannie S Walton #21821, b. 1862. [C] James A Walton #21822, b. c1864, d. aft 1880 census. (b) Elizabeth Jones #22327, b. 1791, d. 1876 in Powellsville, Bertie Co NC. She married (1) James Ward #22328, b. 1770, d. 1843. She married (2) J Howell Jones #22329, b. 1781, d. 1831. She married (3) Rev James Delk #22330, b. 1793, d. 1862. [1] Ann Ward #22331, (daughter of James Ward #22328 and Elizabeth Jones #22327) b. 1834, d. 1901. She married John W Moore #22332, b. 1833, (son of Dr Godwin C Moore #21735 and Julia Wheeler #21736) d. 1906 in Maple Lawn, Hertford Co NC. [A] Arthur Cotton Moore #22333. He married Jonnie Hortense Roundtree #22334. 1. John Raynor Moore #22335, b. 1892, d. 1969. He married Ola Parker #22336, b. 1895, d. 1974 in Maple Lawn, Hertford C o NC. a. John Moore #22337. b. Julia Moore #22338. c. Jane Moore #22339. d. Helen Moore #22340. e. Sally Moore #22341. f. Arthur Moore #22351. 5. Moore Carter Jr #26518, b. c1718. Received Personal Property from father. Bdertie Co records Deeds Book G 5 May 9 1747 Isaac Carter of Society Parish to joseph Benthal, 200 a. adj John Brown which was the line of Dr Samuel Brown dec'd, adg Moor Carter, just over the Northampton Co line sdj to Jacob Carter and Isaac Carter. Wit: John Brown, Samuel Browm, Enoch Lewis, Thomas Wills. 1750-56- Moore carter isnoted as having 150 ac on Potecasi Ck near Matthew Marshburn NH Co Quit Rent-JncG X:p1239ff. 1764 daughter Charithy Carter was bequeathed 6 ac.on south side of Bear Swin HH Co will of Thomas Vinson. He married Charity Vinson #26519. a. Charity Carter #4247. Charity Carter was the daughter of Kindred Carter #4363 (h/o) Mary (?). In his will dated May 14, 1777 he gave her 5 negroes, like wise negroes now in her possession of herself and husband Moses Knight. Also names Gr. son Moses Carter Knight #4250. Another dau. Priscilla #4265 married Moses'brother James Knight 4245. Moses Kight was son of my (Pete Austin #1) was my 5th Greatgrandather. Charity Carter was a second cousin five times removed on Gene Reid Carter #16426 who was my next door neighbor when growing up in Kelford NC. The Knight Family migrated from Surry Co VA to NC. She married (1) Moses Knight #4246, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF #4238 and Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. c06-14-1781. Moses: White Oak Swamp & Wolfpit Branch. DB 4-290 1782. Moses wife Charity Carter survived him and married Absolom Benton. In grandfather's will Oct.10,1769 he is named along with his son Kindred Knight who receive, 1 negro. Moses Knight was son of John Knight Sr who was my (Pete Austin #1) 5th Great Grandfather. She married (2) Absolom Benton #4359. Absolom: Had two sisters Christian Benton that married a Mr. Spier and Jerusha Benton that married a Mr. Parker. One brother Jetro Benton. (1) Kindred Knight #4248, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (2) Allen Knight #4249, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). Moved to Chester Co SC. (3) John Carter Knight #4250, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Elizabeth wife of John Carter Knight #4254. (a) James Coffield Knight #4255, b. 1802, buried 12-18-1869. James is my 2c-4r. Harrod Pittman was his gardian for the estate of John Carter Knight #4256, Oct 18,1823 and proven in Feb Ct 1824. James probably was born Oct 18,1802. He would have been 21 on this date in 1823 when he received his inhertance fron Harrod Pittman his guardian. He married Sarah Sally Bryan #4256, b. 1806, (daughter of Major William Dempsey Bryan #2740 and Mary Williams Davis Lee #2530) d. 01-01-1866. [1] William Henry Knight #4257, b. 12-24-1824, d. 06-27-1873. [2] Martha A Knight #4258, b. 10-07-1884, d. 1941 in age 57 yr. dates don't fit. mix-up somewhere. She married (1) William Pittman #4420. William: Halifax Co. She married (2) R V Duncan #4427. [A] Sally Cofield Pittman #4421, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1842. [B] Cicero Pittman #4422, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1845. [C] Ann Pitman #4423, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1847. [D] Cora Knight Pittman #4424, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1851. [E] Charles C Pittman #4425, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1854. [F] Walter Pittman #4426, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1855. [G] Paul Duncan #4428, (son of R V Duncan #4427 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1862, d. 05-25-1882 in age 20 yrs. Child from second marriage of Martha Knight #4258. (4) Sarah Knight #4251, (daughter of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (5) Mary Knight #4252, (son of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (6) Phereby Knight #4253, (daughter of Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). (7) James Benton #4360, (son of Absolom Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Eveline wife of James Benton #4362. (8) Ely C Benton #4361, (son of Absolom Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). b. Priscilla Carter #4265. She married James Knight #4245, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF #4238 and Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. aft 11-02-1786. James: Feb.Ct.1794;Willed plantation and land on north side of Griffins Swamp to son James; William all land on S.side of Griffins Swamp and west side of Bair Branch; Jacob all of Winfield Wright estate. (1) Dilly Knight #4266. She married Mr Morris:hus Dilly Knight #4266. #4273. (2) James Knight II #4267. DB 24-389, 1-13-1848. He married Spicey W:wife of James Knight II #4267 #4274. (3) William Knight #4268. Brirbranch Land. He married Kaatherine Anne Carter #26607. (a) Priscilla Knight #26608. She married Thomas Cotton #26609. (4) Moore Knight #4269. (5) Jacob Knight #4270. (6) Elizabeth Knight II #4271. She married Benjamin Coffield jr #4275, b. c1803, (son of Benjamin Coffield sr #4287 and Roseannah Southland #4288). (a) Miss Coffield 1st dau Benjamin Coffield #4276. She married Mr Pender(Hus:1st dau of B Coffield#4277 #4280. [1] Elizabeth P Pender #4281. Grand daughter of Benjamine Coffield #4277. (b) Miss Coffield 2nd dau Benjamin Coffield #4277. She married David Ward #4282. David: Smith Co Tenn. [1] David C Ward #4283. Smith Co. Tenn. Grand child of Benjamin Coffield #4277. (c) James Coffield #4278. (d) Martha Coffield #4279, b. c1828. She married (1) Mr Fort,hus Martha Coffield #4279 #4284, married 1838. She married (2) William Warren Taylor #4285, b. 12-13-1828 in Warren KY, (son of William Warren Taylor #5143 and Elizabeth Patrick #5154) d. 02-20-1892 in Kane,Utah. [1] Martha C Fort #4286, (daughter of Mr Fort,hus Martha Coffield #4279 #4284 and Martha Coffield #4279). (7) Sarah Knight #4272. (8) Dempsey Knight #26610. c. Winifred Carter #4365. She married Mr Taylor (Hus:Winneford Carter #4368. d. Penelope Carter #4366. She married Mr Whitaker hus Penelope Carter #4367. e. Christan Carter #26539. She married John Speir #26540. 6. Daughter Carter #26520, b. 1720. He married Bryan O'Quinn Jr #26521. a. Patience O'Quinn #26526. 7. Katherine Anne Carter #26522, b. c1720. Received Personal Property. She married William Knight #26523. 8. Susannah Carter #26524, b. c1725. Received personal property. She married William Skinner #26525, d. 1771 in Northampton Co NC. a. Richard Skinner #26611. b. Kindred Skinner #26612. He married Judith (Skinner) #26613. (1) Susannah Skinner #26614. She married Mr Hare #26615, married c1793. (a) Benjamin Hare #26616. (2) Sarah Skinner #26617. (3) Katran Skinner #26618. (4) Martha Skinner #26619. (5) Mary Skinner #26620. B. Joseph Carter #21472, (son of CaptainThomas Carter Jr #21480 and Arabella Williamson #21493) b. 1696 in Barford, Lancaster Co VA, d. 1750. Joseph Carter bought property in Bertie Co on Feb 8, 1725 and Aug 11,1725. He married Catharine Stevens #21473, married 1719. 1. Robert Carter #21471, d. aft 08-23-1883 in Windsor area Bertie Co NC. At the age of twenty years, in 1755, the youngest son of Joseph and Catharine removed himself to Bertie County NC. He died at age 49. The researcher, Carolyn Agnes Foster Marbourg, of the Carter History stated that the Carter family lived near Windsor where their house was destroyed by fire and all family record lost. There is no mention of when his descendants relocated in the Cotton House Area of Bertie where the Wiley Carter Plantation is located today. Robert Carter served in the Revolutionary War in Captain Clements Hall's Company, Second NC Battalion under Colonel Patten. Enrolled May 4, 1776 and discharged November 10, 1778. His son Isaac Carter served in the same Battalion. Robert's will written 30th day August 1783 and probated in Windsor on 11-1784.He names his six children Michael, Rachel, George, Olive, Robert and Isaac to whom he leaves the land and plantation whereon he lived. He fails to identify his wife that remains unknown. I have in my records a transcript of his will. a. Robert Carter Jr #21475. b. Rachel Carter #21476. c. George Carter #21477. d. Olive carter #21478. e. Michael Carter #21496. 2. Mary Elizabeth Carter #21479. She married James Davis #21497. II. John Carter #21484. There were five intermarriages between the decentants Captain Thomas Carter and Captain William Ball Sr. He married Frances Ball #21485, (daughter of Joseph Ball #21486 and Elizabeth (Ball) #21487). My Carter ancestor left Bertie Co. about 1808. His name was Turner Carter, b. ca 1780 Wife Elitha Jenkins m. Oct 1804 married Bertie Co. Children: William, Cullen, Margarate, Lewis Jenkins, Sarah Eliza, and Delilah Delilah and Margarate were born in NC 1806-07. The next child Cullen was born in Caldwell Co., KY in 1809. I have had difficulty in doing research as there was another Turner Carter b. early 1800s whose Mother was Margaret Carter. Margaret was the 2nd wife of Cullen Carter. The name similarities tend to make me think that there is a relationship there, but I have been unable to prove that. Turner Carter is mentioned in Margaret's will, but it is the younger Turner who remained in Bertie. Is anyone at all familiar with this line..or can you direct me? I have worked previously with someone who is familiar with the Cullen/Margaret line. We have not been able to identify the 1st wife. We have discussed the possibility that my Turner is from the 1st marriage but again we haven't found any proof. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 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Turner Carter #15666, b. c1779 in North Carolina, d. 06/07-1860 in Caldwell Co KY. Family moved to Caldwell Co KY c 1809 with a party of 50/60 persons from Bertie Co NC. Info from Bonnie Buchanan stated name could have been William Turner Carter. Of interest he had a child named William T Carter. "T "could have been for Turner. He married Elitha Jenkins #15656, married c1784 in Bertie Co NC, b. c1786, (daughter of Nathan Jenkins #15591 and Unknown (Wife Nathan Jenkins #15591) #15607). I. Delilah Carter #23913, b. 1806 in Bertie Co NC. II. Margaret Carter #23914, b. 07/08-1807. III. Cullen Carter #23915, b. 1909. IV. William T (Turner) Carter #23916, b. 12-25-1813 in Caldwell Co KY. V. Sarah E Carter #23917, b. c1815 in Caldwell Co KY. VI. Lewis Carter #22066, (son of Capt. Isaac Carter #21474 and Ruth Outlaw? #21508) b. 06-17-1819. -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KY421@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in Bertie County during the 1700s? My Carter ancestor left Bertie Co. about 1808. His name was Turner Carter, b. ca 1780 Wife Elitha Jenkins m. Oct 1804 married Bertie Co. Children: William, Cullen, Margarate, Lewis Jenkins, Sarah Eliza, and Delilah Delilah and Margarate were born in NC 1806-07. The next child Cullen was born in Caldwell Co., KY in 1809. I have had difficulty in doing research as there was another Turner Carter b. early 1800s whose Mother was Margaret Carter. Margaret was the 2nd wife of Cullen Carter. The name similarities tend to make me think that there is a relationship there, but I have been unable to prove that. Turner Carter is mentioned in Margaret's will, but it is the younger Turner who remained in Bertie. Is anyone at all familiar with this line..or can you direct me? I have worked previously with someone who is familiar with the Cullen/Margaret line. We have not been able to identify the 1st wife. We have discussed the possibility that my Turner is from the 1st marriage but again we haven't found any proof. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Carol ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. 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 I have been having problems with Messenger on my computer and my answer to Pete on his lineage may have come though more than the one time as I intended. Sorry if it bothered anyone. :)   Marianne Dillow Illinois

Linda & Carol, Good to hear from you!? When Carol listed a Nathaniel Nicols in her line immdiately bells went off in my head, as I recall that you as well as Barbara were kind of stuck on proving out the connection to ?Nathaniel and Willis Nichols. So I thought perhaps Carol might have some new information on this for us. So do you think that Carol's Nathaniel Nichols is the same is the Nathaniel and Willis Nichols we are looking for? Also, I thought there were two Nathaniel Nichols. The first son of John and Mary Nichols from VA which also had the brother Willis. Then I thought that this Nathaniel had a son in 1759ish also named Nathaniel? If you an clarify this would be of great help. Peter -----Original Message----- From: Gamel <glgamel@comcast.net> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:12 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Nichols Carol, The other Nichols family I think you refer to was in Christian Co., KY (in a part that later became part of Caldwell Co.) by 1804. I've been researching this line for several years. This Nathaniel Nichols came from Hertford Co., and was b. abt 1749, was d. by 21 Oct 1834. Some researchers have guess his birth at around 1775, but in 1805, he was exempted from taxes due to old age (Christian Co. Order Book 1805-1809). His first wife is unknown, but he had four proven children b. bef. 1791 by her, and a fifth that is presumed his but not proven. His second wife was Susannah Ward, widow of James Newsom (also from Hertford Co.). They had four children together. After Susannah died, Nathaniel married Mary Edrington in 1830, but she sued him for divorce in 1831. No children from this union. Peter, we talked a few years ago. Nathaniel Nichols of Bertie Co. had a brother, Willis. I believe that Nathaniel Nichols from Hertford Co. is a son of Willis Nichols, but still searching for evidence to prove it. In Caldwell Co., KY, both Nathaniel Nichols from Hertford Co. b. ca 1749, and Nathaniel, son of Josiah Nichols from Bertie Co., b. ca 1775, lived in the Lewiston area, so I do think they were related but haven't been able to prove it yet. Linda KY421@aol.com wrote: > interesting...I have heard and found that there were 2 different Nichols > families in Caldwell Co. What was interesting is that they had many of the > same names. I'll do a little research and see if I can find the info. on > the other Nichols family...seems like the other one had Nathaniel Nichols > descendants, too. > > I'll get back to you > > Carol > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 8:21:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cville36@aol.com writes: > > > > The reason I ask is there is a Nathaniel Nichols who has a brother Willis, > that many Nichols relatives are searching for. > > > > This would be of great help! > > Peter > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From what we know is that there was a John Nichols and wife Mary from Jamestown and they had two sons, Nathaniel and Willis. Nathaniel might have been born about 1720 and Willis the younger brother.? They both eventually came down into NC. Nathaniel Nichols later had a son born in the 1750s also named Nathaniel.I also heard they mave have then moved out of NC. My Nichols relatives who are searching are not able, but think Willis is in our line, but cuurently can not conect him and we are stuck here. Barbara Nichols Mulder is aware of this and may have more details on this. I hope this helps and I hope you can find something out to help us. Thank you Peter -----Original Message----- From: KY421@aol.com To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 8:26 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Nichols interesting...I have heard and found that there were 2 different Nichols families in Caldwell Co. What was interesting is that they had many of the same names. I'll do a little research and see if I can find the info. on the other Nichols family...seems like the other one had Nathaniel Nichols descendants, too. I'll get back to you Carol In a message dated 8/18/2009 8:21:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cville36@aol.com writes: The reason I ask is there is a Nathaniel Nichols who has a brother Willis, that many Nichols relatives are searching for. This would be of great help! Peter -----Original Message----- From: KY421@aol.com To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2009 7:25 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe Hi Pete, Unfortunately, I don't have the siblings for the Nathaniel Nichols born ca. 1720. I can tell you that common male names in the line are Josiah, Nathaniel, William, Noah and Eli Carol In a message dated 8/18/2009 12:15:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cville36@aol.com writes: Hi Carol, Thank you for your response. I am related to the Nichols line in Ahoskie, NC. My line goes back to William Anderson Nichols who fought in the civil war, then Robert Calvin Nichols, then Thomas Nichols b.1896 to George Thomas NIchols to Margaret Diane Nichols. Did your Nathaniel Nichols have a brother? Thanks Pete -----Original Message----- From: KY421@aol.com To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 8:52 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe Hi Pete, I am descended from Nathaniel Nichols m. Mary Josiah Nichols m. Mary Segers Reddick Nichols m. Celia Jenkins, Reddick and Celia moved to Caldwell County, KY (near Princeton) sometime during the early 1800's...probably around 1810-12. The first confirmed birth of one of their children being born in Caldwell County, KY was Nancy b. Jan., 1813 Their daughter, Louisa married Joshua Butcher Stallins Their daughter Mary Jane m. William T. Carter who was my Great Grandfather. There are still many Nichols descendants in the Caldwell County area. The genealogy center in Princeton has a wealth of information on the Nichols family that settled there. What is your Nichols line? Carol In a message dated 8/16/2009 5:21:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cville36@aol.com writes: Hi, Can you tell me what Nichols families lived near you? I am a Nichols. Pete -----Original Message----- From: KY421@aol.com To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2009 8:08 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe Hi, I'm from Hopkinsville...one county over from where my Stallins. Carter and Nichols families settled after leaving Bertie Co...I live in E Syracuse, NY now. Still have family t here in KY In a message dated 8/15/2009 1:24:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sarnold77@verizon.net writes: Hey Carol!!! I am from near Fulton KY. About a mile from the TN line at Dukedom!!! That's Weakley Co TN. How about you??? I now live in Metropolis IL just across the Ohio River from Paducah KT. Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: <KY421@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe > Hi Sherry, I'm from Western KY also! > > Carol > > > In a message dated 8/15/2009 8:01:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > sarnold77@verizon.net writes: > > Hey Claudia!!! > > I think it is great to share 'memories'. It always brings a smile to my > face when I read something about 'yesteryear' that remin ds me of my > ancestors. I had never heard of 'tomato pudding', I am from western > KY/TN, > so I learned something. I am on another site that has "Sunday Rockin'". > On > Sundays we can talk about anything we want, within reason... > > Claudia, you must be doing something right, there is a LOT of 'trafffc' > on > this site!!! smiles > > Sherry Melton Arnold > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:10 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Recipe > > >> Thanks Lynn for understanding what I am trying to do >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/15/09 00:02:47 Eastern Daylight Time, lcmcmw5761 >> writes: >> >> Sharing and discussing recipes and ones locality specific (Bertie County > >> in this case) is to me a relevant part of family history.? Take a look > at >> Cyndi's List "Recipes, Cookbooks and Family Traditions".? Also note >> "Recipes Shared On Bertie County Mailing List" at >? >> http//www.rootsweb. ancestry.com/~ncbertie/research.htm#recipes? <.? >> Enjoy.? >> >> >> ? >> >> Lynn >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscri be' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the mess age ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pete,   In answer to your question :   Edwin Conway, Sr. and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandpaarents. I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.  Edwin Conway, Sr. was third clerk for Northampton Co., Va. and had land in Northampton, Lancaster and Middlesex counties in Va. His son Edwin married  Elizabeth Thornton.. and his grandson  son was Col. Edwin Conway that married Ann Ball.   As a background Martha Eltonhead had 4 sisters that came from England to Va. Here are 3 of them.   (1) Agatha Eltonhead married 3rd to Sir Henry Chicheley. He is a first cousin to Diana Skipwith. (2) Eleanor Eltonhead married 3rd to Col. John Carter for whom Diana Skipwith witnessed two deeds in 1665 using her maiden name. (3) Alice Eltonhead married 2nd to Henry Corbin.   Col. John Carter left a gift to my grandmother Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.   My lines of cousins go to Pres. James Madison. the Lee's of Va. and the Washington's.   Pete, I have been told this part but haven't checked it out yet...... Both my Edwin Conway, Sr. and Col. John Carter were Godparents to two of Capt. Thomas Carter and Katherine Dale's children. Also, Letiticia Corbyn (Corbin) ... later became the wife of Richard Lee. ... stood as Godmother to Edward Carter eldest son with Diana Skipwith Dale, Edward Dale and my Edwin Conway, Sr. I understand Diana Skipwith married Col. Edward Dale and had a brother Grey Skipwith and their father was Sir Henry Skipwith from England.  _------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   >From Pete: Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in  Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, d. 10-22-1700.  He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, (daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard     Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection with Peele and Knight Clan: dated  through 01-30-2009.         Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan.         Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three children, who all died young.         From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and 1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt.         Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England.         Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington.  

Pete,   In answer to your question :   Edwin Conway, Sr. and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandpaarents. I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.  Edwin Conway, Sr. was third clerk for Northampton Co., Va. and had land in Northampton, Lancaster and Middlesex counties in Va. His son Edwin married  Elizabeth Thornton.. and his grandson  son was Col. Edwin Conway that married Ann Ball.   As a background Martha Eltonhead had 4 sisters that came from England to Va. Here are 3 of them.   (1) Agatha Eltonhead married 3rd to Sir Henry Chicheley. He is a first cousin to Diana Skipwith. (2) Eleanor Eltonhead married 3rd to Col. John Carter for whom Diana Skipwith witnessed two deeds in 1665 using her maiden name. (3) Alice Eltonhead married 2nd to Henry Corbin.   Col. John Carter left a gift to my grandmother Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.   Pete, I have been told this part but haven't checked it out yet...... Both my Edwin Conway, Sr. and Col. John Carter were Godparents to two of Capt. Thomas Carter and Katherine Dale's children. Also, Letiticia Corbyn (Corbin) ... later became the wife of Richard Lee. ... stood as Godmother to Edward Carter eldest son with Diana Skipwith Dale, Edward Dale and my Edwin Conway, Sr. I understand Diana Skipwith married Col. Edward Dale and had a brother Grey Skipwith and their father was Sir Henry Skipwith from England.  _------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   >From Pete: Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in  Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, d. 10-22-1700.  He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, (daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard     Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection with Peele and Knight Clan: dated  through 01-30-2009.         Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan.         Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three children, who all died young.         From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and 1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt.         Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England.         Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington.  

Pete,   In answer to your question :   Edwin Conway, Sr. and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandpaarents. I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.  Edwin Conway, Sr. was third clerk for Northampton Co., Va. and had land in Northampton, Lancaster and Middlesex counties in Va. His son Edwin married Sarah Fleete and Elizabeth Thornton.. and his grandson  son was Col. Edwin Conway that married Ann Ball.   As a backgroiund Martha Eltonhead had 4 sisters that came from England to Va. Here are 3 of them.   (1) Agatha Eltonhead married 3rd to Sir Henry Chicheley. He is a first cousin to Diana Skipwith. (2) Eleanor Eltonhead married 3rd to Col. John Carter for whom Diana Skipwith witnessed two deeds in 1665 using her maiden name. (3) Alice Eltonhead married 2nd to Henry Corbin.   Col. John Carter left a gift to my grandmother Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr.   Pete, I have been told this part but haven't checked it out yet...... Both my Edwin Conway, Sr. and Col. John Carter were Godparents to two of Capt. Thomas Carter and Katherine Dale's children. Also, Letiticia Corbyn (Corbin) ... later became the wife of Richard Lee. ... stood as Godmother to Edward Carter eldest son with Diana Skipwith Dale, Edward Dale and my Edwin Conway, Sr. I understand Diana Skipwith married Col. Edward Dale and had a brother Grey Skipwith and their father was Sir Henry Skipwith from England.  _------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   >From Pete: Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in  Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, d. 10-22-1700.  He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, (daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard     Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection with Peele and Knight Clan: dated  through 01-30-2009.         Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan.         Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three children, who all died young.         From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and 1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt.         Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England.         Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington.  

I would be interested also. Sallie H Parker was born in 4/1/1912 to Wiley Hudson Parker and Juddie Harrell Parker. A picture of her grave stone in the Harrell and Connor cemetery shows her date of birth as above and her death on 5/2/1930. If someone is going to the courthouse and could find any further evidence on her birth and death, I would appreciate it. I'm interested in the cause of her death; family rumor is that is was rheumatic fever. Thank you, Charles Parker ----- grandson of George T Parker, Sr., who was the brother of Wiley Hudson Parker (know in the family as Uncle Peter, for some reason) -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mmaker52 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:36 AM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Help needed in locating children born in Bertie County before 1913 Do we have anyone in Bertie on there way to the courthouse that can help with this information? I am sure Pam would greatly appreciate the look up. Better yet do we have any Mizell researchers that can assist? Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 13:33:01 Eastern Daylight Time, pdennis@eplus.net writes: How would one go about finding three children who were born and died between 1900 and 1910 in Bertie County since birth certificates were not recorded until 1913? Starkey Henderson Mizell and his wife, Sarah Adeline Mizelle (3 rd cousins), had 7 children, 4 of whom lived to adulthood. The three children who died were Cottie Rowena (for whom my aunt is named), Annie, and Jessie. Except for the fact that my aunt remembers hearing about these children when she was a child, we don't know anything else about them nor where they may be buried. I have narrowed the timeframe because the 1910 census record for Bertie County shows that Sarah had 5 children, 2 of whom were living - *1910*; Census Place: *Windsor Ward 1, Bertie, North Carolina*; Roll *T624_1098*; Page: *32A*; Enumeration District: *9*; Image: *387*. Most of this 1910 record is spelled incorrectly but it is my family. It should say - Starkey Mizelle Sarah A. - wife Iva M. - son (b. July 1897) Charlie - daughter (b. 1909) The next child to survive (Bessie) was born in August 1911. The final child (Roy) was born in 1914. Cottie lived to be about 8 years old, I'm told. I have been unable to locate a 1900 census record for the family. Starkey died in 1916, so Sarah is alone with the children in the 1920 census. What are your suggestions? I no longer live in North Carolina so cannot get to the courthouse. I do have Ancestry.com but have not been able to locate them. Thanks. Pam ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bertie County-I was born in Bertie County and I have subscribed to your list for a long time now, but have never sent in any names. The discussions on the list are extremely interesting and informational. I have begun to work on my genealogy and will submit a request. Does anyone have any information on the Jernigans?? George and Lodema were my grandparents. They had 14 children and lived on a farm there. Thanks Irene in Las Vegas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need > for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I > believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around > and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all > have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without > nastiness. > > Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support > you are giving to me and all past coordinators. > > Claudia Harrell Williams > CC Bertie County > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, > bethdix@comcast.net writes: > I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my > husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I > belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going > to > watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal > health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating > that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I > never heard a word in response to my post. > > This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly > while > researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very > upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members > became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list > members. > > I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without > things turning ugly. > > Beth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >> I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group >> is >> a >> truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 >> lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many >> are >> severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail >> for >> those with general interest in the list. >> >> If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side >> conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most >> other >> lists encourage similar approaches. >> >> I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are >> "just >> interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." >> >> I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my >> sons >> in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). >> >> I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large >> cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have >> taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and >> interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the >> lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't >> consider >> myself a "collector" in any sense. >> >> Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy >> the list. >> >> Kerry Smith >> >> Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, >> Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Mmaker52 >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM >> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> Thanks for your insight Nina >> >> Claudia >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb >> writes: >> They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is >> Genealogy. You can't separate the two. >> >> For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and >> SAR >> and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick >> to their pedigree charts. >> >> I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what >> each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is >> hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the >> future in >> our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and >> notice >> over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I >> have >> seen posts related to other eye problems >> >> I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from >> Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is >> something >> that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an >> open >> mind. >> >> Nina Cobb >> >> >> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: >> >> The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different >> categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too >> have >> two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of >> lineage. >> One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The >> history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each >> has >> it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free >> to >> post on each board without offending someone else. >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I >>> have >>> always said the air is better there...LOL >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >>> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>> pudding-casserole >>> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >>> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >>> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >>> grandmother >> >>> and then my mother. When I met >>> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the >> homesites >>> of all our ancestors on THe >>> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in >> the >>> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >>> Yvonne >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >>> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >>> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Elaine, >>> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to >> your >>> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >>> > switched >>> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >>> every >>> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >>> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then >> quickly >>> > delete it. >>> > >>> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let >> me >>> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >>> > >>> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >>> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >>> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >>> > up, >> >>> we >>> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >>> > the >> >>> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >>> the >> >>> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >>> > against >> >>> > this. >>> > >>> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their >>> > research >>> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >>> naturally >>> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >>> > >>> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most >> of >>> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived >>> > back >> in >>> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and >> dates, >>> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived in >>> North >>> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely >> lost. >>> > >>> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the >> pages >>> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >>> look >>> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >>> > specifically a will. >>> > >>> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >>> > >>> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >>> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >>> > >>> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >>> > >>> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>> topic. >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 > 06:03:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greetings, Please tell me how to receive the daily digest instead of individual postings. I had 23 Bertie messages this morning and because my business correspondence often includes people I don't know, I have to open and then delete each one that I don't need. I am on the digest for other forums, and it is a good solution. I didn't know that feature was available here. Best wishes to everyone, and I'm sure this is all settling down now. Regards, Jackie Powell

Could we do one thing--if it is a recipe then say receipe when you send it--if it is info on ancesters. etc. then say that and then us who are not interested in recipes can just delete the ones we do not want to read. When I went on my computer this morning I had 34 e-mails, all from Bertie County and the majority mentioning the receipes. I came from Tennessee myself and believe me we had the same receipes made by grandmothers. Mary in Florida In a message dated 8/19/2009 7:53:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > those with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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