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    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. Martha
    3. Claudia, I am interested in the reunion and think the fall is a great idea. Martha Gillam Price -----Original Message----- >From: Faye Wallace <wallacefs@yahoo.com> >Sent: Aug 19, 2009 6:33 PM >To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? > >You know I am interested and will do what I can to help out, whatever is needed. >  >faye wallace > >--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > > >From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? >To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:26 PM > > >The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested.  Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County?  Of course us 7 could do it too.  Please give me some feedback > >Claudia > > > > >

    08/19/2009 01:51:43
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter, Sipwith, Dale, and My Eltonhead , Conway Lines
    2. sherry arnold
    3. Marianne, I saw your reference to Henry Thacker. I have a Thacker line out of Pittsylvania Co VA, Pleasant Thacker born 1798 s/o Joel Thacker s/o Nathaniel Thacker married Cassie Evans in Goochland Co. Any connection??? Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: <NCBERTIE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter, Sipwith, Dale, and My Eltonhead , Conway Lines Pete, In answer to your question : Edwin Conway, Sr. and Martha Eltonhead are my 9th great grandpaarents. I descend from their daughter Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Edwin Conway, Sr. was third clerk for Northampton Co., Va. and had land in Northampton, Lancaster and Middlesex counties in Va. His son Edwin married Sarah Fleete and Elizabeth Thornton.. and his grandson son was Col. Edwin Conway that married Ann Ball. As a backgroiund Martha Eltonhead had 4 sisters that came from England to Va. Here are 3 of them. (1) Agatha Eltonhead married 3rd to Sir Henry Chicheley. He is a first cousin to Diana Skipwith. (2) Eleanor Eltonhead married 3rd to Col. John Carter for whom Diana Skipwith witnessed two deeds in 1665 using her maiden name. (3) Alice Eltonhead married 2nd to Henry Corbin. Col. John Carter left a gift to my grandmother Eltonhead Conway that married Henry Thacker, Sr. Pete, I have been told this part but haven't checked it out yet...... Both my Edwin Conway, Sr. and Col. John Carter were Godparents to two of Capt. Thomas Carter and Katherine Dale's children. Also, Letiticia Corbyn (Corbin) ... later became the wife of Richard Lee. ... stood as Godmother to Edward Carter eldest son with Diana Skipwith Dale, Edward Dale and my Edwin Conway, Sr. I understand Diana Skipwith married Col. Edward Dale and had a brother Grey Skipwith and their father was Sir Henry Skipwith from England. _------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From Pete: Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, d. 10-22-1700. He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, (daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection with Peele and Knight Clan: dated through 01-30-2009. Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan. Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three children, who all died young. >From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and 1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt. Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's "Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England. Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2009 01:29:37
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Harrell and Thomas families
    2. Beth Wienberry Dix
    3. Betty, Do you have dates for Isiah Thomas? My ggg-aunt, Temperence Tayloe, married an Isiah Thomas b. abt. 1793. Isiah did have a sister, Mary, who married a Jones, but she could have been married more than once??? My great uncle, Will Hyman, was married to Alice Harrell whose grandfather was Donald Carlos Harrell. He went by the initials D.C. and he died about 1898 in Bertie Co. Could this be your D.C. I know he was married to a White, but he also could have had another marriage. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" <bdiaz10@nc.rr.com> To: <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Harrell and Thomas families > Hi Bertie Co. I need information about Mary Thomas (married to > D.C.Harrell) and her brother > > Isiah Thomas. They are both buried on the Thomas farm (the Jepp..Michael > etc. farm) I know > that both families decended from Josiah Thomas . I'm also looking for any > information on > two families listed in the 1860 Bertie census..Windsor > #683 Harrell, Jos. J, 37 farmer #684 Harrell, > Elizabeth, 75 farmer > Harrell, Martha 30 Harrell, > Mary, 30 > Harrell, Jos. A. 10 Harrell, > Eliza A. 5 > Harrell, DB Adline, 3 not > named, 2, female > Any information or connections to other Bertie Harrells would be > wonderful. Thanks for all the > fun and info on this site. I don't mind the food talk except I've gained a > little wt. just reading it. > Claudia, keep up the good work. Thanks. > Betty > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.61/2313 - Release Date: 08/19/09 06:03:00

    08/19/2009 12:13:05
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Thomas Farm
    2. ELIZABETH SCHOEB
    3. When you do let me know. I can give you a lot of info on your family if I am correct.

    08/19/2009 11:42:17
    1. [NCBERTIE] Harrell and Thomas families
    2. Betty
    3. Hi Bertie Co. I need information about Mary Thomas (married to D.C.Harrell) and her brother Isiah Thomas. They are both buried on the Thomas farm (the Jepp..Michael etc. farm) I know that both families decended from Josiah Thomas . I'm also looking for any information on two families listed in the 1860 Bertie census..Windsor #683 Harrell, Jos. J, 37 farmer #684 Harrell, Elizabeth, 75 farmer Harrell, Martha 30 Harrell, Mary, 30 Harrell, Jos. A. 10 Harrell, Eliza A. 5 Harrell, DB Adline, 3 not named, 2, female Any information or connections to other Bertie Harrells would be wonderful. Thanks for all the fun and info on this site. I don't mind the food talk except I've gained a little wt. just reading it. Claudia, keep up the good work. Thanks. Betty

    08/19/2009 11:41:45
    1. [NCBERTIE] Digest subscribers, please DO NOT USE REPLY when you post
    2. Paul Johnson
    3. Hey, I've always been a subscriber via the digest mode, and have never found the email traffic from the list to be a problem. Today, however, we have received at least five separate digests, despite the fact that there are not enough new posts to account for more than one. The problem seems to be that digest subscribers, instead of following the instruction to send posts as new emails to ncbertie@rootweb.com, are using Reply. Every time they do that, the entire contents of the previous digest are included in their post. Since the sending of a new digest is triggered by the number of lines that have accumulated since the last digest, this use of Reply creates multiple digests daily with the same messages repeated over and over and over. The solution is simple. If you subscribe to the digest mode, please DO NOT USE REPLY when you post, as it just clutters up everyone's mailboxes. If you want to quote an individual post while replying to it, but received it in the digest, please delete everything in the digest except that one post before you hit the send button. Thanks, Paul

    08/19/2009 10:07:12
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. Faye Wallace
    3. You know I am interested and will do what I can to help out, whatever is needed.   faye wallace --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:26 PM The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested.  Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County?  Of course us 7 could do it too.  Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded.  We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly.  Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled.  Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family.  Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list.  During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems.  I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum.  I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side.  One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts.  Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this.  This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch.  On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation.  It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region.  Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years.  I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists.  I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors.  I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak".  I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related.  Genealogy is family history.   Family History is > Genealogy.  You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR  and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should  stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy.  I want to  find out what > each of my ancestors died of.  This enables us to find  out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in  the > future in > our grandchildren.  I am handicapped (Legally bind since  birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in  this.  I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being  descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy.   This is something > that might save lives in the future.  We have to face the  future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The  study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It  would be less time consuming for lineage researchers  too > have > two  different boards. One for  Genealogy,which  is  the study of > lineage. > One for Family  history which is time periods and how they  lived. The > history is very interesting  and i like to have it  included  but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for  other people to feel free > to > post on each board  without offending  someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52  <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love  going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is  better there...LOL >> >>  Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09  15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>  I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>  pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One  of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of  Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came  to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil  Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >>  of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old  Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of  information and stories about our kin! >>  Yvonne >> >>  ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52"  <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>;  <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02  PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >>  > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the  number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie  List.  To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >>  > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1  message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the  top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing  at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >>  > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it,  just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual  messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and  most active lists in North >> > Carolina.  We have gone through  very slow times and very active >> > times.  Whenever a topic  like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend  to get more emails.  However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >>  > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list.  In fact, I think you are the only person that has  spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie  County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> >  interests from 1700's - present day.  That is a long period, and >>  naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just  about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having  nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are  interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old  days of Bertie County.  Rather than just having names and > dates, >>  > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived  in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people  may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd  love to have you submit some.  Or visit the > pages >> > and see  all those that have been submitted already.  Remember also to >>  look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that  was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> >  http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a  will, use the automated Forms: >> >  http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me  know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do  hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>  topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> >  To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >  NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>  > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>  > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>  NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>  quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >>  ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the  message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the  message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 09:33:08
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. I would be interested. My mother was from Bertie. Lived in Powellsville. Shirley P. Sackett In a message dated 8/19/2009 1:27:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it too. Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each h as > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 08:56:32
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. Mmaker52
    3. Yes Lou I agree...Bonnie and I have worked closely together for a long time...she is fantastic! After I broke my leg in one of the abandoned cemeteries she just stepped right in and went to work. Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 14:53:40 Eastern Daylight Time, lcraig@myglnc.com writes: Claudia I am in favor of a reunion. If you want to find the graveyards in Bertie County, Bonnie Hoggard is probably the most informed now that Neil Baker is dead. She certainly should be contacted if anyone is missing a location of one of their relatives. Lou Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? >I would suggest anytime after October. Would be a lot cooler and if you >are visiting graveyards some would be easier to access. Any ideas from any >one else? > > Claudia > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 13:35:57 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 > writes: > > I am very interested and think it would be great fun!? When do you think > it could happen? > > > > Also while there, I could perhaps learn where some of the courthouses are > so I could try to get some documents. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? > > > > > The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are > interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory > lane > or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it > too. > Please give me some feedback > > Claudia > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 > writes: > > Hi Claudia, > > > > Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion > and > if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it > fizzle out > or is someone going to plan ne? > > > > Thanks > > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > > > > Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need > for > things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I > believe we > are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we > are > just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different > beliefs but > thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. > > Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support > you are > giving to me and all past coordinators. > > Claudia Harrell Williams > CC Bertie County > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, > bethdix@comcast.net > writes: > I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my > husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I > belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going > to > watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal > health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating > that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I > never heard a word in response to my post. > > This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly > while > researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very > upset at some of > the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members > became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list > members. > > I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without > things turning ugly. > > Beth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >> I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group >> is >> a >> truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 >> lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many >> are >> severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail >> for >> thos > e with general interest in the list. >> >> If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side >> conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most >> other >> lists encourage similar approaches. >> >> I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are >> "just >> interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." >> >> I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my >> sons >> in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). >> >> I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large >> cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have >> taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and >> interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the >> lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't >> consider >> myself a "collector" in any sense. >> >> Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy >> the list. >> >> Kerry Smith >> >> Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, >> Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@roots > web.com] >> On Behalf Of Mmaker52 >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM >> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> Thanks for your insight Nina >> >> Claudia >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb >> writes: >> They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is >> Genealogy. You can't separate the two. >> >> For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and >> SAR >> and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick >> to their pedigree charts. >> >> I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what >> each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is >> hereditary > in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the >> future in >> our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and >> notice >> over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I >> have >> seen posts related to other eye problems >> >> I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from >> Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is >> something >> that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an >> open >> mind. >> >> Nina Cobb >> >> >> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: >> >> The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different >> categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too >> have >> two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of >> lineage. >> One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The >> history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each >> has >> it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free >> to >> post on each board without offending someone else. >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> It is a grea > t place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >>> always said the air is better there...LOL >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >>> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>> pudding-casserole >>> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >>> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >>> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >>> grandmother >> >>> and then my mother. When I met >>> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the >> homesites >>> of all our ancestors on THe >>> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho > mas farm which is still in >> the >>> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >>> Yvonne >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >>> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >>> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Elaine, >>> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to >> your >>> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >>> > switched >>> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >>> every >>> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >>> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then >> quickly >>> > delete it. >>> > >>> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let >> me >>> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >>> > >>> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >>> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >>> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >>> > up, >> >>> we >>> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated e > arlier on >>> > the >> >>> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >>> the >> >>> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >>> > against >> >>> > this. >>> > >>> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their >>> > research >>> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >>> naturally >>> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >>> > >>> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most >> of >>> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived >>> > back >> in >>> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and >> dates, >>> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop > le, who lived in >>> North >>> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely >> lost. >>> > >>> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the >> pages >>> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >>> look >>> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >>> > specifically a will. >>> > >>> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >>> > >>> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >>> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >>> > >>> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >>> > >>> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>> topic. >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an emai > l to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quo > tes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 > 06:03:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.co > m > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2009 08:55:03
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. Lou Craig
    3. Claudia I am in favor of a reunion. If you want to find the graveyards in Bertie County, Bonnie Hoggard is probably the most informed now that Neil Baker is dead. She certainly should be contacted if anyone is missing a location of one of their relatives. Lou Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? >I would suggest anytime after October. Would be a lot cooler and if you >are visiting graveyards some would be easier to access. Any ideas from any >one else? > > Claudia > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 13:35:57 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 > writes: > > I am very interested and think it would be great fun!? When do you think > it could happen? > > > > Also while there, I could perhaps learn where some of the courthouses are > so I could try to get some documents. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? > > > > > The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are > interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory > lane > or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it > too. > Please give me some feedback > > Claudia > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 > writes: > > Hi Claudia, > > > > Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion > and > if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it > fizzle out > or is someone going to plan ne? > > > > Thanks > > Peter > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > > > > Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need > for > things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I > believe we > are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we > are > just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different > beliefs but > thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. > > Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support > you are > giving to me and all past coordinators. > > Claudia Harrell Williams > CC Bertie County > > > > > In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, > bethdix@comcast.net > writes: > I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my > husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I > belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going > to > watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal > health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating > that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I > never heard a word in response to my post. > > This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly > while > researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very > upset at some of > the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members > became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list > members. > > I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without > things turning ugly. > > Beth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >> I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group >> is >> a >> truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 >> lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many >> are >> severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail >> for >> thos > e with general interest in the list. >> >> If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side >> conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most >> other >> lists encourage similar approaches. >> >> I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are >> "just >> interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." >> >> I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my >> sons >> in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). >> >> I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large >> cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have >> taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and >> interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the >> lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't >> consider >> myself a "collector" in any sense. >> >> Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy >> the list. >> >> Kerry Smith >> >> Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, >> Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@roots > web.com] >> On Behalf Of Mmaker52 >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM >> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> Thanks for your insight Nina >> >> Claudia >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb >> writes: >> They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is >> Genealogy. You can't separate the two. >> >> For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and >> SAR >> and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick >> to their pedigree charts. >> >> I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what >> each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is >> hereditary > in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the >> future in >> our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and >> notice >> over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I >> have >> seen posts related to other eye problems >> >> I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from >> Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is >> something >> that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an >> open >> mind. >> >> Nina Cobb >> >> >> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: >> >> The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different >> categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too >> have >> two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of >> lineage. >> One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The >> history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each >> has >> it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free >> to >> post on each board without offending someone else. >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> It is a grea > t place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >>> always said the air is better there...LOL >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >>> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>> pudding-casserole >>> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >>> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >>> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >>> grandmother >> >>> and then my mother. When I met >>> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the >> homesites >>> of all our ancestors on THe >>> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho > mas farm which is still in >> the >>> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >>> Yvonne >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >>> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >>> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Elaine, >>> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to >> your >>> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >>> > switched >>> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >>> every >>> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >>> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then >> quickly >>> > delete it. >>> > >>> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let >> me >>> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >>> > >>> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >>> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >>> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >>> > up, >> >>> we >>> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated e > arlier on >>> > the >> >>> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >>> the >> >>> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >>> > against >> >>> > this. >>> > >>> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their >>> > research >>> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >>> naturally >>> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >>> > >>> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most >> of >>> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived >>> > back >> in >>> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and >> dates, >>> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop > le, who lived in >>> North >>> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely >> lost. >>> > >>> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the >> pages >>> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >>> look >>> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >>> > specifically a will. >>> > >>> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >>> > >>> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >>> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >>> > >>> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >>> > >>> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>> topic. >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an emai > l to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quo > tes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 > 06:03:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.co > m > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/19/2009 08:52:45
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List
    2. I am looking for William TODD 1775 in BERTIE CO. NC and his family.AND the MORISS FAMILY. These family was there in the 1700 to 1800. LA vera JONES

    08/19/2009 08:51:19
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter
    2. Beth Wienberry Dix
    3. Hey Pete, I descend from James Tayloe and Sarah Rhodes through their son, Robert Reddick Tayloe. How are you connected to the Tayloes? Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Austin" <pete@austinfamily.org> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com>; <lcraig@myglnc.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter > Hi Lou, I am connecter to the Carter, Rhodes and Tayloe families in Bertie > County. I do not know if there is any relationship with your kin but will > be > happy to share information with you as I have holes in my data base with > those in my line that does not allow a relationship to be found. Pete > Austin > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Beth Wienberry Dix > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:45 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter > > I have the following Carters connected to my Tayloe family. Turner > Carter, > who died before 1835 Bertie Co. married Sarah Collins Watson d/o John > Watson, Jr. and Mary Lassiter. Sarah Collins Watson was of the same Watson > family who married Jonathan Stanley Tayloe. The above mentioned Turner > Carter was the son of Cullen Carter whose will was probated 1804 Bertie > Co. > and Margaret Rhodes. Margaret Rhodes was previously married to Thomas > Leggett. Margaret's sister, Elizabeth Rhodes, married 1795 David Tayloe > who > > was the father of Jonathan Stanley Tayloe. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Craig" <lcraig@myglnc.com> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter > > >> Carol >> >> I have info on Annie Hasseltine Carter, b 7/31/1833 d 1/03/1854 who >> married >> Lewis Bond in 12/04/1851. They had two children, Clarrisa Anne Bond, b >> 1852 >> d ????? and Turner Carter Bond, b 12/26/1853 d 2/29/1940. Annie >> Hasseltine >> Carter's parents are "Unknown" Carter and Sarah Collins. Being that they >> named her son Turner Carter, it could have been for her father or >> grandfather; I do not know. Apparently Annie died just after childbirth. >> Turner Carter Bond lived in Bertie, was instructed in school by my great >> grandfather, Rev. Andrew Murdock Craig and was Sheriff of Bertie County. >> >> Wish that I had a recipe to enclose with this info. >> >> Lou Craig >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <KY421@aol.com> >> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter >> >> >>> Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy >>> in >>> Bertie County during the 1700s? >>> My Carter ancestor left Bertie Co. about 1808. >>> >>> His name was Turner Carter, b. ca 1780 >>> Wife Elitha Jenkins m. Oct 1804 married Bertie Co. >>> Children: William, Cullen, Margarate, Lewis Jenkins, Sarah Eliza, and >>> Delilah >>> Delilah and Margarate were born in NC 1806-07. The next child Cullen >>> was >>> born in Caldwell Co., KY in 1809. >>> >>> I have had difficulty in doing research as there was another Turner >>> Carter >>> b. early 1800s whose Mother was Margaret Carter. Margaret was the 2nd >>> wife >>> of Cullen Carter. The name similarities tend to make me think that >>> there >>> is a relationship there, but I have been unable to prove that. Turner >>> Carter is mentioned in Margaret's will, but it is the younger Turner who >>> remained in Bertie. >>> >>> Is anyone at all familiar with this line..or can you direct me? I have >>> worked previously with someone who is familiar with the Cullen/Margaret >>> line. >>> We have not been able to identify the 1st wife. We have discussed the >>> possibility that my Turner is from the 1st marriage but again we >>> haven't >>> found any proof. >>> >>> Any help would be greatly appreciated! >>> >>> Carol >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 > 06:03:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 08:33:41
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion?
    2. There's the Johnson family reunion on Oct. 10th....prob. good idea to avoid that weekend. In a message dated 8/19/2009 1:38:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mmaker52@aol.com writes: I would suggest anytime after October. Would be a lot cooler and if you are visiting graveyards some would be easier to access. Any ideas from any one else? Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 13:35:57 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: I am very interested and think it would be great fun!? When do you think it could happen? Also while there, I could perhaps learn where some of the courthouses are so I could try to get some documents. -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 1:26 pm Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Reunion? The idea is still on the table but so far we have only 7 people that are interested. Anyone else out there interested in taking a trip down memory lane or even making new memories in Bertie County? Of course us 7 could do it too. Please give me some feedback Claudia In a message dated 08/19/09 12:32:52 Eastern Daylight Time, cville36 writes: Hi Claudia, Smeone mentioned a short while ago the idea of having some kind of reunion and if anyone wanted to help out. Whatever happened to that idea? Did it fizzle out or is someone going to plan ne? Thanks Peter -----Original Message----- From: Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2009 7:41 am Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > thos e with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@roots web.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a grea t place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Tho mas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated e arlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living peop le, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an emai l to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quo tes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 08:21:48
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter
    2. Pete Austin
    3. Hi Lou, I am connecter to the Carter, Rhodes and Tayloe families in Bertie County. I do not know if there is any relationship with your kin but will be happy to share information with you as I have holes in my data base with those in my line that does not allow a relationship to be found. Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beth Wienberry Dix Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:45 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter I have the following Carters connected to my Tayloe family. Turner Carter, who died before 1835 Bertie Co. married Sarah Collins Watson d/o John Watson, Jr. and Mary Lassiter. Sarah Collins Watson was of the same Watson family who married Jonathan Stanley Tayloe. The above mentioned Turner Carter was the son of Cullen Carter whose will was probated 1804 Bertie Co. and Margaret Rhodes. Margaret Rhodes was previously married to Thomas Leggett. Margaret's sister, Elizabeth Rhodes, married 1795 David Tayloe who was the father of Jonathan Stanley Tayloe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Craig" <lcraig@myglnc.com> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter > Carol > > I have info on Annie Hasseltine Carter, b 7/31/1833 d 1/03/1854 who > married > Lewis Bond in 12/04/1851. They had two children, Clarrisa Anne Bond, b > 1852 > d ????? and Turner Carter Bond, b 12/26/1853 d 2/29/1940. Annie Hasseltine > Carter's parents are "Unknown" Carter and Sarah Collins. Being that they > named her son Turner Carter, it could have been for her father or > grandfather; I do not know. Apparently Annie died just after childbirth. > Turner Carter Bond lived in Bertie, was instructed in school by my great > grandfather, Rev. Andrew Murdock Craig and was Sheriff of Bertie County. > > Wish that I had a recipe to enclose with this info. > > Lou Craig > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KY421@aol.com> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 PM > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter > > >> Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy >> in >> Bertie County during the 1700s? >> My Carter ancestor left Bertie Co. about 1808. >> >> His name was Turner Carter, b. ca 1780 >> Wife Elitha Jenkins m. Oct 1804 married Bertie Co. >> Children: William, Cullen, Margarate, Lewis Jenkins, Sarah Eliza, and >> Delilah >> Delilah and Margarate were born in NC 1806-07. The next child Cullen >> was >> born in Caldwell Co., KY in 1809. >> >> I have had difficulty in doing research as there was another Turner >> Carter >> b. early 1800s whose Mother was Margaret Carter. Margaret was the 2nd >> wife >> of Cullen Carter. The name similarities tend to make me think that there >> is a relationship there, but I have been unable to prove that. Turner >> Carter is mentioned in Margaret's will, but it is the younger Turner who >> remained in Bertie. >> >> Is anyone at all familiar with this line..or can you direct me? I have >> worked previously with someone who is familiar with the Cullen/Margaret >> line. >> We have not been able to identify the 1st wife. We have discussed the >> possibility that my Turner is from the 1st marriage but again we haven't >> found any proof. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Carol >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: 08/18/09 06:03:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2009 08:20:29
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter
    2. Martha
    3. Hi Pete and Carol I am the 4th great granddaughter of Turner Carter and Sarah Watson. I have been through the family records and can find nothing on Turner Carter other than his father's name is Cullen Carter. Have either of you run across any information that may help me in researching this line. Thanks for any help you might be able to give me. Martha -----Original Message----- >From: Pete Austin <pete@austinfamily.org> >Sent: Aug 19, 2009 1:15 PM >To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Carter > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of KY421@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:45 PM >To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NCBERTIE] Carter > >Is there anyone on this list that is familiar with the Carter genealogy in >Bertie County during the 1700s? Captain Thomas Carter Sr #21481, b. c1630, >d. 10-22-1700. He married Katharine Dale #21482, married 05-04-1670, >(daughter of Major Edward Dale #21483 and Diana Skipworth #21491). >Katharine: She was married by Rev John Sheppard > Data in this report from Winborne Colonial History, Sally's Family >Place, Barry Hayes, records furnished by Wiley Warren Harrell son of Louise >Carter, plus personal research data by Pete Austin #1 with family connection >with Peele and Knight Clan: dated through 01-30-2009. > > Captain Thomas Carter came to Virginia prior to 1652 from England. >He was a Captain of Virginia Militia, Justice, Member of Council, Deputy >Clerk of his County and a member House of Burgess in 1667. Thomas was >twenty-one years of age when he came to Virginia. He had the distinguished >title of Country Gentleman. His coat of arms proves that this family was >from England and that he came from the Bedfordshire Carters Clan. > > Captain Thomas Carter was married twice, bringing his first wife >with him from England. Her name was not known. By this marriage he had three >children, who all died young. > > From his 2nd marriage to Katharine Dale they had ten sons and three >daughters. She was the oldest daughter of Major Edward Dale. In 1655 - 1674 >he was Clerk of Lancaster Co. From 1670-'71-79'-80 was High Sheriff and >1677-82-83 a member of the House of Burgesses. Major Dale took part in >Beacon's Rebellion. On Dec 8 1674 Edward Dale conveyed 500 acres to his >daughter plus slaves, cattle hogs, horse and a colt. > > Major Edward Dale was of the ancient family of Dale's of Northampton >and London, which originally was the County of Chester. He was the father of >Katharine Dale Carter that married Thomas Carter. Elizabeth's sister married >Sir Grey Skipworth of England. Sir Grey was the 2nd son of Sir Henry >Skipworth. The Skipworth family sought refuge in Colonial Virginia after >King Charles the First was beheaded. They were Royalist and supported the >Crown during the revolutions by Parliament. He and his family had to flee to >save their lives. Sir Henry Skipworth at that time was the 1st Baronet of >Presmould, Leicestershire, England. The Skipworth ancestry chart goes back >to Henry the Conqueror. The Skipworth family tree can be found in Burke's >"Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies" of England. > > Capt Thomas Carter and Katharine Dale Carter's 3rd son John Carter >married Frances Ball the daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Ball. Joseph and >Elizabeth Ball were also the parents of Mary Ball that married General >George Washington the 1st President of the United States of America. John >Carter was brother-in-law To General Washington. > > Additional relatives of Captain Thomas Carter, the immigrant, were >the Caswell County Family of John Payne Carter, Lawyer that intermarried >with the Worth, Brown, Hawley families. Mary Elizabeth Jessie Carter, >daughter of John Payne Carter married Braizillia Worth the youngest brother >of former NC Governor Johnathan Worth whose granddaughter was Mrs Josephus >Daniel's husband that serverd as Secretary of the US Navy and Publisher of >The News and Observer and the Raleigh Times. > > . >I. CaptainThomas Carter Jr #21480, b. 06-04-1672, d. c1710. Thomas >Jr's God-Parents were Captain John Lee who was an ancestor of General Robert >E Lee. He married (1) Magdalen Moore #22319, b. c1855, (daughter of >GeorgeMoore #26541) d. aft 1737. Magdalen: Info from Barry Hayes based on >his analysis of Isle of Isle of Wight Co records. He married (2) Arabella >Williamson #21493, married 08-22-1695, (daughter of William Williamson >#21494). > A. Moore Carter Sr #22320, (son of CaptainThomas Carter Jr >#21480 and Magdalen Moore #22319) b. 1680 in Isle of Wight Co VA, d. 1740 in >Bertie Co NC. Based on data from Isle of Wight Co VA and Bertie County by >Barry Hayes. States Moore Carter was the youngest son of Thomas Carter >c1652-1810. He fails to list other siblings. Only named Moore Carter as >achild of Capt. Thomas Carter. Note: orginal data was recieved from Warren >Harrell in 2005. His infomation was from the research of a lady from >Murfreesboro, NC. He married Jane KIndred #22321, married c1715, b. >1690/1700 in Isle of Wight Co VA, (daughter of John Kindred Jr #26542 and >Catherine Wife John Kindred Jr #26543) d. 1764. Jane: Received Negros Sam >and Moll. > 1. Jacob Carter #26512, b. 1714, d. 1797 in Nash Co. >Recieived personal property. Made gift of 200 acres to brother Isaac Carter >1740. He married (1) Ms Middleton #26513, (daughter of Martin Middleton >#26514). He married (2) Unknown 2nd wife Jacob Carter #26534. Unknown: >Estate record of Jacob in1805 names minor children Elizabeth, Cornelius, >Kindred, Jacob and Moore Carter? > a. Janey Carter #26527, (daughter of Jacob >Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513) d. bef 1805. > b. Mary Polly Carter #26528, (daughter of Jacob >Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). She married Nathaniel Perry #26529. > c. Chrissy Carter #26530, (daughter of Jacob >Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). She married George Foreman #26531. > d. Cornelius Carter #26532, (son of Jacob >Carter #26512 and Ms Middleton #26513). > (1) Wilson Whitaker Carter #26533. > 2. Kindred Carter #4363, b. c1716, d. 1777. Will dated >May 14,1777. Oct Ct. 1777, Nov Ct 1810, Feb Ct 1819. Nmaes Wife: Mary, 6 >negroes. lantation where I live, all land, stock, household goods and >remainder of estate, except otherwise devised, revision to my grandson: >Moses Carter Knight, Daughter Priscilla (Carter) Knight (wife:James Knight >#4245), 4 negroes; dau: Charity Knight (m.2nd Absolom Benton), 5 negroes, >likewise now in her possesion during the life of herself and husband Moses >Knight (#4246) Dau: Winneford Taylor (#4365), 4 negroes; Dau: Penelope >Whitaker (#4266), 4 > negroes. Exr: James Knight (probably son-in-laws >#4245)and Carey Whitaker > (probably a son-in-law #4267). He married Mary Odom >#4364. > a. Charity Carter #4247, (daughter of Moore >Carter Jr #26518 and Charity Vinson #26519). Charity Carter was the daughter >of Kindred Carter #4363 (h/o) Mary (?). In his will dated May 14, 1777 he >gave her 5 negroes, like wise negroes now in her possession of herself and >husband Moses Knight. Also names Gr. son Moses Carter Knight #4250. Another >dau. Priscilla #4265 married Moses'brother James Knight 4245. > Moses Kight was son of my (Pete Austin #1) >was my 5th Greatgrandather. Charity Carter was a second cousin five times >removed on Gene Reid Carter #16426 who was my next door neighbor when >growing up in Kelford NC. The Knight Family migrated from Surry Co VA to NC. >She married (1) Moses Knight #4246, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF >#4238 and Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. c06-14-1781. Moses: >White Oak Swamp & Wolfpit Branch. DB 4-290 1782. Moses wife Charity Carter >survived him and married Absolom Benton. In grandfather's will Oct.10,1769 >he is named along with his son Kindred Knight who receive, 1 negro. > Moses Knight was son of John Knight Sr who >was my (Pete Austin #1) 5th Great Grandfather. She married (2) Absolom >Benton #4359. Absolom: Had two sisters Christian Benton that married a Mr. >Spier and Jerusha Benton that married a Mr. Parker. One brother Jetro >Benton. > (1) Kindred Knight #4248, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (2) Allen Knight #4249, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). Moved to Chester Co SC. > (3) John Carter Knight #4250, (son of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Elizabeth wife of >John Carter Knight #4254. > (a) James Coffield Knight #4255, >b. 1802, buried 12-18-1869. James is my 2c-4r. Harrod Pittman was his >gardian for the estate of John Carter Knight #4256, Oct 18,1823 and proven >in Feb Ct 1824. James probably was born Oct 18,1802. He would have been 21 >on this date in 1823 when he received his inhertance fron Harrod Pittman his >guardian. He married Sarah Sally Bryan #4256, b. 1806, (daughter of Major >William Dempsey Bryan #2740 and Mary Williams Davis Lee #2530) d. >01-01-1866. > [1] William Henry Knight >#4257, b. 12-24-1824, d. 06-27-1873. > [2] Martha A Knight >#4258, b. 10-07-1884, d. 1941 in age 57 yr. dates don't fit. mix-up >somewhere. She married (1) William Pittman #4420. William: Halifax Co. She >married (2) R V Duncan #4427. > [A] Sally >Cofield Pittman #4421, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A >Knight #4258) b. 1842. > [B] Cicero >Pittman #4422, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1845. > [C] Ann Pitman >#4423, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1847. > [D] Cora Knight >Pittman #4424, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) >b. 1851. > [E] Charles C >Pittman #4425, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1854. > [F] Walter >Pittman #4426, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1855. > [G] Paul Duncan >#4428, (son of R V Duncan #4427 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1862, d. >05-25-1882 in age 20 yrs. Child from second marriage of Martha Knight >#4258. > (4) Sarah Knight #4251, (daughter of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (5) Mary Knight #4252, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (6) Phereby Knight #4253, (daughter of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (7) James Benton #4360, (son of Absolom >Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Eveline wife of James >Benton #4362. > (8) Ely C Benton #4361, (son of Absolom >Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). > 3. Capt. Isaac Carter #21474, b. c1717, d. 07-08-1792 >in St Johns, Hertford Co NC. Isaac Carter was the oldest son and served in >the American Revolutionary War as a Captain in the same battalion as that of >his father Robert Carter. > Not proven is the wife of Isaac but there is a deed >dated 01-21-177 from Isaac Carter and his wife Ruth of Hertford County NC to >George Outlaw conveying the land given Ruth by the will of her father as >filed in Bertie County records. His 2nd wife was Ruth Outlaw per info given >above. > > In Winborne's Colonial History of Hertford County >page 72 Isaac appears as head of the family in 1790 consisting of two sons >over sixteen Isaac Jr, Lazarus and three sons and two daughters under >sixteen: Hugh, Josiah, James, Parthenia, and Martha Carter. James removed >himself from Hertford Co when he married Miss Dollie Cotton of the Cotton >Plantation family who were the parents of Wiley Carter. His descendants >still own the Carter Plantation home two miles fro Kelford on SR #308 >towards Lewiston. His son's wife later moves to the intersection of Norfleet >Ave and Main St. My family lived on east corner of South Main Street from >this family for over fifty years. > > Isaac Sr was a man of great wealth and Prominence, >and the larges known slave holder in Hertford County at that time with >fifty-six. His home was in the St John's Section. He married (1) Sarah >Browne #22009, (daughter of Dr Samuel Browne I #21962 and Mary Jones >#22016). He married (2) Ruth Outlaw? #21508. > a. Hugh Carter #21500, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). > b. Martha Carter #21505, (daughter of Capt. >Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). > c. Matthew Carter #22065, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. 1741/45, d. 1793. > d. James Carter #22039, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. 1742/45, d. 1811 in Warren Co GA. >He married (1) Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040, married 1763. >Elizabeth(wife: James and Kindred Carter moved tom Warren County GA around >1780. Kindred Carter was the ancestor of President Jimmy Carrter. He married >(2) Elizabeth Newson #26570. Elizabeth: der Barry Hayes. > (1) Jesse Carter Jr #22041, (son of >James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 01-16-1765, >d. 1828 in Conecuh AL. He married (1) Phebe Duckworth #22042, married >c1789, (daughter of Jeremiah Duckworth #26490 and Christian Ramsey #26491). >He married (2) Mary Lassiter #26545, married 1814. He married (3) Sarah >Spurling #26535. > (a) Lavina Carter #26494, >(daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042). She married >Henry Loyless #26495, b. 1750, (son of James Lawless #26496) d. 1792. > [1] Redding Jefferson >Layless #26497, b. 1808, d. 1870. He married Mary Word Greenwood #26498, >married 1824, d. 1856. > [2] James Chesterfield >Layless #26499, b. 1825, d. 1862. He married Mary M Perry #26500, b. in >Twiggs Co. > [3] Missouri Ada Layless >#26501, b. 1895. She married Charles C Whitehead #26502, married c1800, d. >1853. > [4] Georgia Ann Loyless >#26503, b. c1815. She married George Ann Loyless #26504. > [5] Amanda Layless >#26505, b. 1819. She married William B Cabaniss #26506. > [6] Martin Layless >#26507, b. 1830. > [7] Henry Melvin Loyless >#26508, b. 1632. > [8] Carter Loyless >#26509, b. 1835. > (b) Lazarus Carter #26510, (son >of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042) b. 02-02-1801 in >Warren Co GA, d. 05-1870 in Bellsville AL. He married Eliza Lee #26511, >married 01--01--1825. > (c) Narcissa Carter #26492, >(daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Phebe Duckworth #22042) b. 11-161804 >in Warren Co GA, d. 10-27-1860 in owndes Co MS. She married Allen Brooks >#26493, married 02-11-1817 in Warren Co GA. Allen: Moved fromWarren Co GA >to Lowndes Co Msin 1818. > (d) Moore Carter #22043, (son of >Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). > (e) James Carter III #22050, >(son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). > (f) Carolina Carter #26546, >(daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Mary Lassiter #26545). > (g) Jeremiah Spurling Carter >#26536, (son of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). He >married Caroline Green #18527. > (h) Jesse Carter #26516, (son of >Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). > (i) Susan Carter #26626, >(daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). > (j) Anne Carter #26537, >(daughter of Jesse Carter Jr #22041 and Sarah Spurling #26535). > (2) Christian Carter #22044, (daughter >of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. c1765/69, >d. aft 1836. She married Jacob Smith #26548, married c1789 in Richmond Co >GA. > (3) Moore Carter #26551, (son of James >Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1770/72 in NC. > (4) Sara Carter #26538, (daughter of >James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1770/72 in >NC. She married Pete Hodo #22064, married 1788/93 in Wilks Co GA. > (5) Elizabeth Carter #26552, (daughter >of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1772/80 >in NC. She married (1) Michael Horn #26553, married 08-02-1796. She >married (2) Jonathan Burson #26554, married bef 1800. > (6) Isaac Carter #26555, (son of James >Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1775/81 in NC. >Children lisred are shown with a question ? > (a) Clarke Carter #26556. > (b) Charles Carter #26557. > (c) Silas Carter #26558. > (7) Parthenia "Polly" Carter #26559, >(daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040). >She married John Morris #26560, married 11-04-1807, d. 1815 in Warren Co GA. > (8) Allen Carter #26561, (son of James >Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. 1780/85 in NC. He >married Sally Edmondson #26562, married 09-03-1807. > (a) Jespha Carter #26563. > (b) Elizabeth Carter #26564. > (c) Matilda Carter #26565. > (d) Jettason Carter #26566. > (e) Malivina Carter #26567. > (9) Penelope "Penny" Carter #26568, >(daughter of James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth(wife James Carter) #22040) b. >1780/88 in NC or GA?. She married Benjamin Davis #22047. > (10) James Carter Jr #26571, (son of >James Carter #22039 and Elizabeth Newson #26570) b. 1792/95 GA. He married >Alsey Newson #26572, married 12-26-1816. > e. Isaac Carter II #22051, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1745, d. 1805/10. He married >Ruth Outlaw #26573. Ruth: Possibly the dau William Outlaw and Mary Wood. > (1) Drewry Carter #22052, b. c1770/74. > (2) Willie Carter #22053. > (3) Lewis Carter #22055, b. 1774/84. > (4) Isaac Carter IV #22056, b. 1790/94, >d. 1844. Member NC State Leg 183-1834. Maj in the millita. > (a) Sallie Elizabeth Carter >#21506, b. c 1820. She married Maj. Jacob Sharp #21507, b. c 1814. Maj.: >NC Senator. > (5) Daughter #1 Carter #22057. > (6) Daughter #2 Carter #22058. She >married Cornelius Moore #22059, d. 18-23-1823 in Northamptn Co NC. > (a) Isaac Carter Moore #22060. > (b) Harriet Moore #22061. She >married James W Wood #22062, married 1824. > (7) Josiah Carter #21501. He married >Winnie Holloman #21509. > (a) James Carter #21510. Jsames >married and moved to Tennessee as a young man. > (b) Ely Carter #21511, b. >12-14-1799 in Murfreboro NC NH Co. Ely died at 77 years of age. Was a >Merchant, Mason graveside service. Was a highly respecked citizen per >artical found inMurfreesboro Enquirer.01-25-1877. He married (1) Polly >Murphy #21516, married 04-20-1824. He married (2) Martha E Trader #21520, >b. 1819, (daughter of William Trader #21528) d. 08-15-1893 age 74 in >Murfreesboro NC. > [1] Edward Carter >#21517, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1866 in >Columbus, Miss. Educated at Emory and Henry College and UNC Chaple Hill >NC. > [2] Josephine Carter >#21518, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1882. >She married Mr Bush #21519. > [3] Celestine Carter >#21543, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Polly Murphy #21516) d. 1912. >She married E F Rice #21544. E F: Lived in Murfreeboro NC. > [4] William Henry Carter >#21521, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). > [5] John Carter #21522, >(son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). > [6] Elizabeth Carter >#21523, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). She >married William J Echols #21530, married 1871 in Senatobia Miss. William: >Moved to Fort Smith AKin 1881.Was a President of Wholesal Grocery Co and >Merchants National Bank. > [A] William J >Echols Jr #21531. > 1. >William J Echols II #21532. He married Fannie Sandels #21533, married >07-1902. > a. >Willum J Schols III #21534. > b. >Elizabeth Schols #21535, b. 1903. > c. >Mont Sandels Schols #21536, b. 1907. > d. >Fannie Schols #21537, b. 1909. > [B] Maud >Shotwell Echols #21538. She married C W Hammill #21539, b. in NYC. C W: >Banker and Broker NYC. > 1. >Maude Elizabeth Hammill #21540. > [C] Elizabeth >Carter Echols #21541. She married James E Reynolds #21542. James: Operated >a large warehouse in Fort Smith Ark. > [7] Celstine Carter >#21529, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). Partner E F >Rice #26517, b. in Murfreesboro NC. E F: Received NergoJude. > [8] James Carter #21524, >(son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). > [9] Dodridge Carter >#21525, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). He married >Miss Hall #21545. Miss: Lived in Senatobia, Miss. > [10] Thomas Bragg Carter >#21526, (son of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). Lived in >Texas. He married Miss Matthews #21546. > [11] Anna Harrison Carter >#21527, (daughter of Ely Carter #21511 and Martha E Trader #21520). > (c) Mary A "Polly" Carter >#26569. She married Benjamin Wynns #21498, b. c1745, d. 1805/10. Benjamin: >Isaac Carter Jr was a member of the NC Legislature for four years having >been elected first in 1830. Also was a Major in the State Militia. His >daughter Sallie married Major Jacob Sharp, a NC senator. > [1] George Washington >Wynns #26574. Married with fout unknown issues. > [2] James Thomas Wynns >#26575. He married Sarah A Dunn #26576, married c1824. Sarah: Hertford Co >Commissioner for many years and had Merchantil Business. > (d) Perry Carter #21513, b. >06-06-1803 in Hertford Co NC, d. 03-19-1866 Pnenmonis. He married Priscilla >Warren #21550, married 06-17-1824 in SH Co VA, b. 1803 in Southampton Va, >(daughter of Etheldred Warren #21560 and Margaret Riddict Darden #21563) d. >11-1869. > [1] Eliazebth Virginia >Carter #21551, b. 10-30-1825, d. inf. > [2] Margaret Ann Carter >#21552, b. 02-08-1828 in Murfreesbore Nc, d. age 3. > [3] Anastasia Lafayette >Carter #21553, b. 12-08-1829, d. 08-07-1864. Educated a Miss Sketchly's >School of dance in Murfreesboro Nc. Never Married. > [4] Eramus Carter >#21554, b. 10-24-1831 in Murfreesboro NC, d. small child. > [5] Susan Agnes Carter >#21555, b. 09-24-1833 in Murfreesboro NC, d. 06-30-1902 in Phil PA. She >married Charles H Foster #21564, married 05-01-1660, d. 03-14-1882 in Phil >PA. Charles: Susan educated at Chowan Baptist Female Institute in >Murfreesboro NC. Charles was lawyer and proptietor of THECitizen a >Murfreesboro Newspaper. Became chief edito of the Philadelphia Record and >special corrodpondent of the New York Herald. > [A] Carolyn >Agnes Foster #21565. She married Dr Edgar M Marbourg #21571, married >06-02-1890. > 1. >Edgar Foster Marbourg #21572. > [B] Ellen Carter >Foster #21566, b. 08-03-1864. She married Charles Morton Stone #21573, (son >of Charles henry Stone #21574). > 1. >Charle Alson Stone #21575, b. 08-12-1889. > [C] Cony Foster >#21567. > [D] Carles >Joseph Foster #21568. > [E] Sue Brown >Foster #21569. > [F] Benjamin >Brown Foster #21570. > [6] Rev Joseph Etheldred >Carter #21556, b. 02-06-1836 in Murfreesboro NC. Practiced law for two >years before entering UTenn and studing theology. Read law under Chief >Justice W N H Smith. > Served churches in >Lexington, Georgetown and Lebanon KY. In 1881 he returned to Nc where he >served churches in Wilson, arboro, Rocky Mt and Hendersonville NC. He >married Pricilla Dickinson Burton #21576, married 05-14-1860, (daughter of >Nash Williams Burdon #21577 and Lavinia Bembury Murfree #21578) d. >08-06-1900 in Murfreesboro Tenn. > [A] Lavinia >Carter #21581. > [B] Joseph >Carter #21582. > [C] Frank Carter >#21583. > [D] Naomi Carter >#21584. > [E] Finnie Annis >Carter #21585, b. 11-07=1862 in Murfreesboro Tenn. She married John Edwin >Ray #21586, married 11-02-1881 in Wilson NC, b. 01-22-1852 in Wake Co NC, >(son of James Samuel Ray #21605 and Delitha Jane Justice #21606). John: >Graduated Wake forest College and taught at state school for the deaf in >Raleigh unti 1885 where he became superintentent > 1896. > 1. >Burton Justice Ray #21587, b. 01-12-1883. Gradurate Wake Forest College and >Cornelle University in Ithica NY. Hods the chair of Cemistry in University >of Poerta Rico. > 2. >Florence Warren Ray #21588, d. inf. > 3. Mary >Carter Ray #21589, b. 04-21-1887. She married Dr Claude Oliver Abernethy >#21590, married 08-02-1911 in Raleigh NC. > a. >Martha Annis Abernathy #21591, b. 06-07-1912. > 4. John >Ewin Ray Jr #21592, b. 11-29-1888. Graduated from Wake Forest College, is a >physician having interrned in Bellevue Hospital, NY for two years. > 5. Ruth >Brickwell Ray #21593, b. 10-02-1892. > 6. Jane >Noille Ray #21594, b. 10-28-1893. > 7. >Hardy Murfree Ray #21595, b. 07-22-1900. > [F] George >Burton Carter #21596, b. 12-19-1866 in Danville KY. Attended Wake Forest >College. Was engageed in book and stationary business. Assisted father in >the publication of Northern NC Baptist at Ashville NC. > Went to >Liuisville KY in 1888 and engaged in printing anf lithograhing business with >the Courier Journal Printing Co. > Elected >Secretary and director with Styles and Cash printing ferm in NYC. He married >Susan Funk #21597, married 01-12-1891 in Hagerstown Maryland, (daughter of >Jeremimiah Funk #21607 and Henrietta (Funk) #21608). > 1. >Richard Burton Carter Jr #21598, b. 04-20-1893 in Hagerstown MD. Resides at >Richmond Hill, Long Island NY. > [G] Mary >Hardiman Carter #21599, b. 10-28-1872 in Lebanon KY. She married James M >Brinson #21600, married 1893. > 1. >George Williams Brinson #21601, b. 04-18-1894. > [H] William >Hickman Carter #21602, b. 09-13-1875 in Lebanon KY. He married Nellie Ware >McGoodwin #21603, married 06-1901 in Danville KY. > 1. >Rufus Preston Carter #21604, b. 04-08-1902. > [7] Ellen Victoria >Carter #21557, b. 06-19-1838 in Murfreesboro NC. > [8] Mary Priscilla >Carter #21558, b. 05-14-1843 in Murfreesboro NC, d. 11-=04-1892. She >married Thomas J Williamson #21609, married 12-20-1870, b. in Noprfolk Va. > [A] Joseph >Carter Williamson #21610. Resides in Tallahassee Fla. has several children, >the oldest Joseph Williamson. > [B] FrankPerry >Williamson #21611. > [C] Priscilla >Warren Williamson #21612. > [9] Martha Perry Carter >#21559, b. 05-15-1847, d. 04-26-1867. She married John Morgan #21613, >married 1866. > (e) Celia Carter #21514, b. >1812. She married T J Dean #21547, b. 1812. T J: Merchant in Murfreesboro >NC. Married Celia first and then her sister Parthenia Carter. > [1] William Deans >#26577. > (f) Priscilla Carter #21515, b. >c1812. Widowed early without issue. She married Mr Railey #21549. > (g) Parthenia "Polly" Carter >#21512, b. c1795, d. aft 1860. > (8) James Carter Sr #21467, b. c1765. >No record to show if James Carter remained near Windsor NC or returned to >Bertie Co later and married Miss Dollie Carter, the belle of Bertie County >and the daughter of Lewis/Jesse Cotton. After they married the two lived on >the adjoining plantation to that of her parents. The Carter plantation house >still stand adjacent to SR #305 two mile south of Kelford and is still own >by the Lewis Carter's three sons; Harold, Sidney Dale and Gene Ried Carter. >According To Gene Reid all of the old James Carter Plantation has now been >sold. Over the past years residentual lots were sold on the east side of SR >#308. > > This probably was the same property >that his grandfather Robert Carter origionally own before his home was >destroyed by fire and later his son Isaac Sr relocated to the St John's >section in Hertford County. Not known wheither James reloacated or if he >remained in Bertie Country after his father moved away to St John's that is >about twenty miles toward the northeast. The distance represents a hard days >travel by carriage being drawn by two fine horses that average three miles >for eight hours. Allowing for a hour stop for refreshments and short rest >for the team and the ladies at a hotel in Aulander. > > James' son Wilie Carter and grandson >Willie P Carter lived here in Bertie Co on the Plantation on both sides of >SR #308 that goes from Kelford to Lewisto/Woodville. After Willey P >Carter's death, his widow Roberta Harrell Carter moved to South Main Street >in Kelford with her chidren: Lewis, Ralph, Polly and Louise. Their Carter >Family Tree and History is given in the an later chapter in an artical that >I am now preparing on Southwest Bertie County. He married Dollie Cotton >#21468, married bef 1814, b. c1780, (daughter of Jesse Cotton #523 and >Lavenia Young #219). > (a) Eliza Jane Carter #26622, b. >08-02-1814, d. 11-15-1824, buried Jess Cotton Cemetery. > (b) James Carter Jr #26623, b. >c1822. 28 years old in 1850 census. > (c) Wiley Carter #20690, b. c >1827, d. 04-11-1898 in Kelford NC. Windsor Ledger, Thursday APRIL 14, 1898. >Mr Wiley Carter of Kelkford was having some fence repaired last Tueday >evening when he was taken with appoplexy and never spoke again after he >fell. Mr M L Wood reached is side soon after and administered some spirts >but soon found that breath was extinct. April 14,1998 > > His son Wiley P Carter >married Roberta Harrell who was a descendant of the John Harrell Sr clan >that came to Bertie with his ten Harrell sons from Nansemond Co VA. Wiley P >is the only known descendant. Roberta Harrell was probably a next door >neighbor. A 1863 map show of the area denotes a Harrell family living on the >adjoining plantation There were six children from that union. He married >Henrietta (Carter) #20689. > [1] Wiley P Carter >#18448, b. 02-18-1877 in Carter Farm-SW Kelford area, d. aft 1910 in Kelford >Bertie Co NC. Owned property adjacent to the Cotton Plantation. After Wiley >P died his son Lewis later owned and managed the property and share cropped >the farmland. According to an email from his grandson Gene Reid Carter they >still own the house and hope to restore it in the future. > > WILIE CARTER >PLACE--Next on SR 308 as you drive northwest towards Kelford was the >plantation of Willie Carter that was located on both the left and Right side >of the former unpaved highway. This is where James Carter and his wife >Dollie Cotton built their home. Dollie is thought to have been the daughter >of a neighbor Lewis Cotton per information about the Carter family that was >sent to me by Gene Reed Carter. The house was probably constructed in the >late 1700's. James Carter was the son of Captain Isaac Carter Sr who fought >beside his father, Robert Carter, in the Revolutionary War. The Carter >property extended east across the SAL Railroad and then north where it >joined the Harrell farm on the west property line (Raleigh Doughtie lived >there some years later) and that of George A. Parker to the south. James >Carter and Henrietta were the parents of Wiley P Carter and his wife Roberta >daughter of John B Harrell Sr and wife of Sarah Jane Livermon. The Livermon >family owned the property that was across the SR #308 highway from the >current West Bertie Elementry School. They had children Wiley Lewis Carter >that married Pauline Harrell (See Harrell data), Ralph that married Louise >Lane (see Lane info later) from Roxobel, and Fannie Louise that married 1st >Colon Harrell and after his death she married 2nd Rueben Benthal from Rich >Square. Ruben married 1st Fruzie Harrell the sister of Pauline Harrell wife >of Wiley Lewis Carted. They were the daughter of Council and Lou Hedgespeth >Harrell. Another daughter Margaret "Polly" Carter who married Maylon Parker >and later lived in Portsmouth VA. No record on daughter Helen E Carter. >After Wiley P. Carter died his widow and their family moved to Main Street >in Kelford into the house across the street from my parents at the >intersection with Norfleet Ave. > > Later Wiley P's >grandson Gene Reid Carter used one of the buildings on the farm to assemble >and produce parts for Harrington Mfg Co in Lewiston, NC. The Carter family >still owns the Home place but they sold their house in Kelford in the >1990's. > > The farmland was >split when they relocated SR 308.in the 30' that divided the property. The >Carter larger home place was on the left side of #308 off to the right there >was a small house up in the field about a quarter of a mile from the State >Road. After they relocated the roadbed the Carter house was positioned with >the rear of the house facing the old original roadbed. When they improved >the road and eliminated the arching curve that went slightly to the north >and passed behind the Carter home place it left it with a now small backyard >between the house and the road. The former old roadbed had arched a few >hundred feet to the northeast from the Cotton Place until it joined SR 308 >at the Gravel Pit Road. Today several houses have been built on the right >next too and in the area on SR 308 from the Cotton Place to the old Carter >Home place building. > . He married Roberta >Harrell #18449, married 1898, b. 1874 in Roxobel ?, (daughter of John B >Harrell Sr #15431 and Lousia Judith Peele #15424). Roberta: Information sent >to me by Sarah Frances Harrell listed her husband name as M P Carter instead >of W P Carter as found in county records? > > After her husband >Wiley died Roberta moved to South Main Street in Kelford. Living with her in >1930 were son Ralph and wife Ethel Lane Carter, daughters Helen E age 22 and >Margaret C age 20. > > Lodgers rooming with >the Carter family in 1930 were Owen Parker and his wife Edith Gay Parker. >Owen later bought the Clarence Roberson Home next to the SAL Railroad on >Norfleet Ave where they lived until their death. > > Around 1938 son >Ralph, wife Ethel and son Edward were living with their mother on Main >Street in Kelford. They also lived in the house next door to my parents on >Norfleet Street. They later moved to Roxobel. At one time in the 1930s son >Lewis, wife Pauline and sons Harold, Sidney Dale and Jene Reid Carter also >lived Mrs. Roberta Carter. They moved in with her after their house on >Norfleet Street was distroyed by fire in the early 1930s. > [A] Wiley Lewis >Carter #18446, b. 1899 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC. He married Pauline >Harrell #18447, married 1922, b. c1901 in Kelford Area-Kelford NC Bertie Co, >(daughter of William Council Harrell #19591 and Ella Louise "Lou" Hedgespeth >#19590) d. c1999 in Nags Head NC - Dare Co. > 1. >Lewis Harold Carter #19595, b. 1928 in Kelford NC. > 2. >Sidney Dale Carter #19594, b. 1930. > 3. Gene >Reid Carter #16426, b. c1932 in Kelford NC. Son of Lewis Carter. Brothers >Sidney Dale and Harold Carter. Now lives at Nags Head. Email ><grandscarter@earthlink.net>. He married Shirley Leora Peele #16409, b. >09-06-1935 in Lewiston NC, (daughter of John Richard Jarred Peele #16389 and >Loryle McClenny #16406) d. 08-28-1998 in Aulander NC. Shirley: Died of >cancer. > a. >Michael Reid Carter #18386, b. 12-09-1941. > b. >Holli Ann Carter #18387, b. 01-05-1964. > [B] Ralph Edward >Carter Sr #18450, b. 02-04-1903 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC, d. 1982 in >Roxobel NC. He married Ethel Luvenia Lane #17797, married 06-03-1925 in >Roxobel, NC, b. 04-15-1906 in Roxobel NC, (daughter of Walter J.L. Lane >#17792 and Saphsonia wife:J.L.Lane #17791) #17793) d. 1975. > 1. >Ralph Edward Carter Jr #19755, b. 12-07-1926 in Kelford NC Bertie Co. >Graduated RKHS in class of 1943 Graduated UNC in Phamancy. Now lives in >Wilmington, NC . > > Has >a kidney probem after complete blockage of renal vein. Now requires at home >dialysis treatment. He married Judith Johnston #21354, married 11-22-1947, >b. 10-04-1926. > a. >Debra Jean Carter #21355, b. 05-11-1851. She married (1) George Michael >Farris #21358, married 08-22-1970. She married (2) Linwood Quinn Brooks >#21360, married 11-01-1988. She married (3) Daniel Allen Shapiro #21362, >married 03-08=1997. > >(1) Julie Kerr Farris #21359, (daughter of George Michael Farris #21358 >and Debra Jean Carter #21355) b. 07-15-1978. > >(2) Robon Quinn Brooks #21361, (daughter of Linwood Quinn Brooks #21360 >and Debra Jean Carter #21355) b. 06-21-1988. > b. >Ralph Edward Carter III #21356, b. 02-26-1954. Othopedics Surgeon. Pratice >in Laurinburg NC. He married Sandra Lynn McKnight #21363, married >07-13-1984. > >(1) Stephanie Deeann Carter #21364, b. 02-20-1984. > >(2) Jonathan Edward Carter #21365, b. 12-03-1986. > >(3) David McKnight Carter #21366, b. 07-01-1988. > c. >Kathie Lane Cart #21357, b. 12-03-1955. She married William Lloyd Smith >#21367, married 02-28-1976. > >(1) Megan Elizabeth Smith #21368, b. 11-20-1978. > >(2) Whitney Lane Smith #21369, b. 07-13-1981. > [C] Fannie >Louise Carter #18485, b. 1900 in Carter Place Kelford NC. Colin was the >owner of a Hotel in Kelford that was located on Broad Street that was built >behind the J C Cherry Store. The Hotel was first owned by Burgess Stephenson >until he sold it to either Jack Bowers or Colin. Warren Harrell his son >stated that Colin owned the hotel when it burned. She married (1) Atlas >Colin Harrell Sr #19111, b. 07-09-1894 in Bertie Co NC, (son of William >Council Harrell #19591 and Ella Louise "Lou" Hedgespeth #19590) d. >10-20-1930 in Roxobel NC. Atlas: Colin owned and operated the Kelford Hotel >that was located on what today is Broad Street behind the J C Cherry Store. >The Hotel first owner was Burgess Stephenson who sold out to Jack Bowers and >Colin Harrell. Colin was the manager and owner when it was destroyed by >fire. During the days the hotel was still in operation it was said to be a >place where a traveler could quince his thirst after arriving by train and >experienced a trip that exposed them to the heavy black coal smoke and sot >made from the steam locamotive. > > In the 1920 >census Atlas C Harrell b 1895 and wife Fannie (Louise Carter) b 1900 are >listed with son A.C. Jr at 6 months with boarders James U Norfleet b1890, >Ruth Norfleet b1895, Nannie U Norfleet b 6-12-1917, James U Norfleet Jr >b1-12-1919 and A.C. Johnston b 1883. This would be Alwyn Chesley Johnston >that managed the Coca Cola Bottling plant and married Amma Browne daughter >of George Thomas Browne and wife Daisy. Alwyn Chesley Johnston was from >around Centerville in Franklin Co NC. Once in the late 30's when A.C. was >riding in the car with my grandmother, Mrs Kate Dozier Lyon, they traced and >decided that they were fourth cousins. As I did not write down their >conversation I have no record of this relationship. > > Colin owned >and operated the "M" System Store in Kelford where the current Fire and >Rescue Department are housed. It was a rather unique store in the >arrangement that had a checkout area where the customers had to pass through >a turn style to pay their bill. The store was forced to close during the >depression days. At that time Colin and Louise were living on Norfleet Ave >across from Stephen Norfleet and his wife Annie Cobb. Some of the packaged >food such as pitted and stuffed dates was stored in the garage behind their >house. We as kids would sample the then stored merchandise. First time I >ever had a date stuffed with nuts. Enjoy then even today. > > Colin >conducted a logging operation and used the No 72 Harrell Siding location to >load and ship his logs to saw mills throughout the area. She married (2) >Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263, b. 1892 in Rich Square NC ?, (son of John >Augusta Benthal #21279 and Unknown wife John Benthal #21280) d. July 12, >1969. Reuben: Married 1st Fruzie Harrell daughter Council and Louise "Lou" >Hedgespeth. They lived on West Church Street until their devoice. There were >no issue from this union. > > In the 1920 >census Reuben and his wife Ivey F (Fruzie) had as a boarder Norman Parker b >1897. > > Reuben >married second Louise Carter daughter of Wiley Carter and wife Roberta >Harrell and had three children: Reuben, John and Louise Marie Benthal. > > > . > 1. >Atlas Colin "A C" Harrell Jr #19604, (son of Atlas Colin Harrell Sr #19111 >and Fannie Louise Carter #18485) b. c1920. > 2. >Lewis Warren Harrell #19605, (son of Atlas Colin Harrell Sr #19111 and >Fannie Louise Carter #18485) b. May 28 1923 in Kelford Bertie Co NC, d. >11-09-2008. Lived at P.O.Box 35, 3703 Buckeye Road, Sugar Grove NC 28679. >Tel # 828 297-5996. Visited with Warren May 23, 2002. He had an auto >accident in April and was staying with a friend Jerry Green that lived a >couple of miles from his home. I had a telephone call from warren asking for >data on his Harrell family. I delivered the data I had on his Harrell Family >of 1,000 in person while he was recouping at the Green's who were very >attentive to his needs. At that time he was a very handsome man. He had poor >eye sight and difficult in hearing. He lived alone in a small cottage at >Buckeye Road. He stated he slept all day and stayed awake at night listing >to the TV and radio. He came by with Jerry Green who brought him to visit us >at our place between Blowing Rock and Boone in Mountain Ridge Plantation. We >had prepared him a pot of homemade Brunswick stew that he had requested. He >had asked me to made him some stew as no one in the mountains knew how to >fix it and that was something he really wanted one more time. Whenever I >spoke with him on the telephone it was very difficult due too his hearing >problem and I had to call after eleven o'clock PM to catch him while he was >awake. Never could get him to answer if he was asleep and could not call me >because he could not read my phone number due to poor eye sight. > > >Warren served in the US Army Air Corps during WW II and was a graduate of >UNC Chapel Hill. He worked as a ticket writer at Bethel's Stock market on >sale days. Help manage the Stockyard that was owned and operated by his step >father Ruben Benthal. The Louis Harrell family moved from Kelford to Rich >Square after his mother remarried after the death of his father Colin >Harrell. In Kelford they lived in the fourth house from our house which was >across the street from the Norfleet home on Norfleet Street (Ave). After the >failure of Colin's M System Store they stored some of the unsold merchandise >in an outer building in their back yard. We kids use to get treats from the >left over merchandise. Items I recall were dried stuffed dates and candy >cherries. Warren attended Roxobel-Kelford School but graduated from Rich >Square. In 2007 he purchased the Ruben Benthal House in Rich Square but he >never lived there after he bought it but remained at Buckeye Road. He lived >ther alone for many years and bought his meals at a nearby county store >until it closed around 2005. His close friend Jerry Green would do his >grocery shopping and bring it to his house as he could no longer see to >drive although he had four abandon cars and trucks in his front yard. Warren >was a class mate with my brother Irving "Bro" Austin. He seldom participated >or took part in very many play ground activity but would only stand on the >side line and watch. A very smart student but usually was a loner when it >came to any social activities or taking part in any sporting events. However >he loved to fish and read books. Liked by his school mates but was known as >being "his own" kind of a man who sometimes marched to the beat of his own >drummer which many of us sometime like too do ourselves. > > He >stated on our visits that he and Ruben had gone fishing on the day before >Rubin Died. Rubin and my father Hobart Austin were great friends and enjoyed >Dynamite Fishing Pond where he carried many younger youths to fish where >they had many a cookout fish fry. > > >Warren was buried with his grandfather Council Harrell and other former >Parker-Harrell relatives at the 72 Harrell Siding Cemetery. > > . He >married Marie (Lois Morgan) Holoman #20683, b. in Rocky Mount NC. > a. >Warren Martin Harrell #20684, b. 1955. Now lives in Penn. > b. >Hanna Louis Harrell #20685. Now lives in New Bern NC. She married James >Mitchell #20686. > >(1) Molly Mitchell #20687. There are Three Daughters with only one >named. > 3. >Ruben Alvin Benthal Jr #21271, (son of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and >Fannie Louise Carter #18485). Ruben Jr operated Benthal Stockyard after his >father died until it was destroyed by fire. Now lives in Raleigh, NC. > 4. John >Benthal #21272, (son of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and Fannie Louise >Carter #18485). Lives in Farmville NC. > 5. >Louis Marie Benthal #21273, (daughter of Reuben Alvin Benthal Sr #20263 and >Fannie Louise Carter #18485). She married Randolph Holloman #21274, b. in >Jackson NC. Randolph: County Manager Nash Co NC. > a. >Christ Holloman #21275. > b. >Michael Hollomam #21276. > c. >Unknown Son #21277. > d. >Unknown Son #21278. > [D] Helen E >Carter #19826, b. 1908 in Kelford Area, Bertie Co NC. > [E] Margaret C >Carter #19827, b. 1910 in Kelford area, BertieCo NC. > (d) William Carter #26624, b. >c1832. > (e) Robert Carter #26625, b. >1835. > f. Kindred Carter #26578, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c175-, d. 1800 in Ga. Kendred and >James Carter moved to Warren Co GA c1780.from NC. Settled in Richmond Co GA >on the frontier of this new state along Little Germany Creek. This land >later became part of Columbia Co GA that later became Mcduffie Co approx 35 >miles west of Augusta. Kindred's estate was divided five ways. Although he >had only four issues the fifty might have gone to his unnamed wife. >Information furnished by Linda Jenson. > (1) James Carter #26579, b. 1773 in NC, >d. 1857 in Schley Co GA. Cotto planter and a Baptist. He married Eleanor >"Nellie" Duckworth #26580, married 1798 in Columbia GA. > (a) Wiley Carter #26581. GR GR >Grandfater President Jimmy Carter. > (b) Epsey Carter #26582, b. >1803, d. 1867. > (c) Keziah Carter #26583, b. >1805, d. 1855. > (d) Littleberry Carter #26584, >b. 1807-1847. > (e) Marina "Rina" Carter #26585, >b. 1809. > (f) Felix Carter #26586, d. >1844. > (g) Matha Carter #26587. >Married 1837. > (h) George W Carter #26588. >Married 1837. > (i) James D Carter #26589, d. >1854. > (2) Henry Carter #26590. > (3) Jesse Carter Jr #26591. > (4) Martha Carter #26592. > g. Jesse Carter #26593, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1745/50, d. c1800. He married >Charity Vinson #26594, married bef 1762, (daughter of Thomas Vinson #26595). > (1) Isaac Carter #26596. > (a) Isaac Vinson Carter #26597, >b. 03-04-1812 in NC, d. 05-09-1879 in Keokuk Co Iowa. Met on a wagon train >trip. He married Elizabeth Baker #26598, married 05-1802 in Va, d. 1879 in >Iowa. > [1] Sarah Elizabeth >Carter #26599, b. 03-26-1845 in IN, d. 08-05-1875. He married John Lewis >Farmer #26600, b. 01p15-1844, d. 07-08-1918 in Iowa. > [A] Sarah >Christain Farmer #26601. She married (1) Ullysses Sanford Ulin #26602. She >married (2) Albert Turner Mantz #26603. > 1. >Kenneth Ward Mantz #26604, (son of Albert Turner Mantz #26603 and Sarah >Christain Farmer #26601). > (2) Brittain Carter #26605. > (3) Moore Carter #26606. > h. Lazarus Carter #21499, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009). This Carter family lived near St >John in Hertford County. Their desendant later move to Kelford area near the >Cottron Plantation on SR 308. He married (1) Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus >Carter) #21743, married bef 1788, b. c1766, (daughter of Lewis Powell #18163 >and Helen Cotten #18075) d. b1798. Miss: The marriage of Ms Powell to >Lazarus Carter also found in the Carter genealogy records. Descendants >migrated to Kelford and owned plantation next door to the Cotton Place >Family farm. He married (2) Mrs Elizabeth Wood Dickerson Bridgers #21763, >(daughter of Jonas Wood #21764). > (1) Willie B Carter #21747, (son of >Lazarus Carter #21499 and Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus Carter) #21743) b. >c1790, d. 10-04-1844. Kept a store in St Johns, Hertford County. He married >(1) Elizabeth Carter #21875. He married (2) Winifred Cotton #21751, b. >c1790, d. bef 08-1849 in Hertford Co NC. > (a) Elizabeth Carter #21748, >(daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). She >married John Styon #21749, married bef 02-1846. > (b) Lazarus Carter #21750, (son >of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875) d. bef 11-1848. He >married Winnifred Cotton #21879, married c1780/90, (daughter of Abner Cotton >#26621) d. bef 08-1849 in Hertford Co NC. > (c) Sarah Mary A ? Carter >#21876, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). > (d) Martha Nancy M? Carter >#21877, (daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). > (e) Priscilla C Carter #21878, >(daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Elizabeth Carter #21875). > (f) Abner Carter #21752, (son of >Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). He married Sarah Ann >Everett #21753. > [1] Lucy Ann Carter >#21754. She married John Pippin Vaughan #21755, b. 1850, (son of Sam >Vaughan #21756) d. 1924 in Menola NC. > [2] Linda Walker Carter >#21757, b. 1866, d. 1936. She married Robert Cobb Vaughan #21758, b. 1860, >d. 1932. Robert: Ancestor of Samuel Vaugham. > [3] Sarah Carter #21760. > [4] Martha Carter >#21761. > [5] Priscilla Carter >#21762. > (g) Sarah Carter #21786, >(daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). > (h) Martha Carter #21787, >(daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). > (i) Priscilla C Carter #21788, >(daughter of Willie B Carter #21747 and Winifred Cotton #21751). > (2) Martha B Carter #21759, (daughter of >Lazarus Carter #21499 and Miss Powell (Wife Lazarus Carter) #21743) b. >c1798. > i. Parthenia Carter #21503, (daughter of Capt. >Isaac Carter #21474 and Sarah Browne #22009) b. c1755/60, d. c1780/84. She >married Shadrack Rutland #21504, married 11-05-1775. > j. Lewis Carter #22066, (son of Capt. Isaac >Carter #21474 and Ruth Outlaw? #21508) b. 06-17-1819. > 4. Daughter Carter of Moore Carter #22322. Husband >James Jones received NegroIsabell. She married James Jones #22323, b. 1710, >d. 1784. > a. James Jones Jr #22324. He married Milecent >Bond #22325. > (1) James S Jones II #21720, b. 1765 in >Hertford Co NC, d. 1816 in Jones Hole, Hertford Co NC. Livedat Pitch >Landing in Gates Co NC. He married Ann Walton #21719, b. 1766, (daughter of >William Walton #21716 and Rachel Hunter #21717) d. 1842. > (a) Sara Jones #21844, b. 1805, >d. 05-28-1844 in Green Co AL. She married William Walton #2837, married >09-11-1831, (son of Timothy Walton #21807 and Milly Outlaw #21808) b. c1795, >d. c1848. William: Of Chowan County, Hertford Co and Green Co Ala. > > [1] James Jones Walton >#21814, b. 1836, d. bef 1870 in Hertford Co NC. He married Nannie Sharp >#21815, married c1832, (daughter of Starkey Sharp #21861 and Eleanor Hardy >#21862). > [A] Lillie >Walton #21817, b. c1861. She married William Drake Scull #21818. > 1. >Mattie Scull #21819. She married H Hunter Taylor #21820, married 1910. > 2. >Nannie Scull #21864. She married Dr Jesse Elliott Ward #21865, b. in >Robersonvlle, NC. > [B] Nannie S >Walton #21821, b. 1862. > [C] James A >Walton #21822, b. c1864, d. aft 1880 census. > (b) Elizabeth Jones #22327, b. >1791, d. 1876 in Powellsville, Bertie Co NC. She married (1) James Ward >#22328, b. 1770, d. 1843. She married (2) J Howell Jones #22329, b. 1781, >d. 1831. She married (3) Rev James Delk #22330, b. 1793, d. 1862. > [1] Ann Ward #22331, >(daughter of James Ward #22328 and Elizabeth Jones #22327) b. 1834, d. 1901. >She married John W Moore #22332, b. 1833, (son of Dr Godwin C Moore #21735 >and Julia Wheeler #21736) d. 1906 in Maple Lawn, Hertford Co NC. > [A] Arthur >Cotton Moore #22333. He married Jonnie Hortense Roundtree #22334. > 1. John >Raynor Moore #22335, b. 1892, d. 1969. He married Ola Parker #22336, b. >1895, d. 1974 in Maple Lawn, Hertford C o NC. > a. >John Moore #22337. > b. >Julia Moore #22338. > c. >Jane Moore #22339. > d. >Helen Moore #22340. > e. >Sally Moore #22341. > f. >Arthur Moore #22351. > 5. Moore Carter Jr #26518, b. c1718. Received Personal >Property from father. Bdertie Co records Deeds Book G 5 May 9 1747 Isaac >Carter of Society Parish to joseph Benthal, 200 a. adj John Brown which was >the line of Dr Samuel Brown dec'd, adg Moor Carter, just over the >Northampton Co line sdj to Jacob Carter and Isaac Carter. Wit: John Brown, >Samuel Browm, Enoch Lewis, Thomas Wills. > 1750-56- Moore carter isnoted as having 150 ac on >Potecasi Ck near Matthew Marshburn NH Co Quit Rent-JncG X:p1239ff. > 1764 daughter Charithy Carter was bequeathed 6 ac.on >south side of Bear Swin HH Co will of Thomas Vinson. He married Charity >Vinson #26519. > a. Charity Carter #4247. Charity Carter was >the daughter of Kindred Carter #4363 (h/o) Mary (?). In his will dated May >14, 1777 he gave her 5 negroes, like wise negroes now in her possession of >herself and husband Moses Knight. Also names Gr. son Moses Carter Knight >#4250. Another dau. Priscilla #4265 married Moses'brother James Knight 4245. > Moses Kight was son of my (Pete Austin #1) >was my 5th Greatgrandather. Charity Carter was a second cousin five times >removed on Gene Reid Carter #16426 who was my next door neighbor when >growing up in Kelford NC. The Knight Family migrated from Surry Co VA to NC. >She married (1) Moses Knight #4246, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF >#4238 and Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. c06-14-1781. Moses: >White Oak Swamp & Wolfpit Branch. DB 4-290 1782. Moses wife Charity Carter >survived him and married Absolom Benton. In grandfather's will Oct.10,1769 >he is named along with his son Kindred Knight who receive, 1 negro. > Moses Knight was son of John Knight Sr who >was my (Pete Austin #1) 5th Great Grandfather. She married (2) Absolom >Benton #4359. Absolom: Had two sisters Christian Benton that married a Mr. >Spier and Jerusha Benton that married a Mr. Parker. One brother Jetro >Benton. > (1) Kindred Knight #4248, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (2) Allen Knight #4249, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). Moved to Chester Co SC. > (3) John Carter Knight #4250, (son of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Elizabeth wife of >John Carter Knight #4254. > (a) James Coffield Knight #4255, >b. 1802, buried 12-18-1869. James is my 2c-4r. Harrod Pittman was his >gardian for the estate of John Carter Knight #4256, Oct 18,1823 and proven >in Feb Ct 1824. James probably was born Oct 18,1802. He would have been 21 >on this date in 1823 when he received his inhertance fron Harrod Pittman his >guardian. He married Sarah Sally Bryan #4256, b. 1806, (daughter of Major >William Dempsey Bryan #2740 and Mary Williams Davis Lee #2530) d. >01-01-1866. > [1] William Henry Knight >#4257, b. 12-24-1824, d. 06-27-1873. > [2] Martha A Knight >#4258, b. 10-07-1884, d. 1941 in age 57 yr. dates don't fit. mix-up >somewhere. She married (1) William Pittman #4420. William: Halifax Co. She >married (2) R V Duncan #4427. > [A] Sally >Cofield Pittman #4421, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A >Knight #4258) b. 1842. > [B] Cicero >Pittman #4422, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1845. > [C] Ann Pitman >#4423, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1847. > [D] Cora Knight >Pittman #4424, (daughter of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) >b. 1851. > [E] Charles C >Pittman #4425, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1854. > [F] Walter >Pittman #4426, (son of William Pittman #4420 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. >1855. > [G] Paul Duncan >#4428, (son of R V Duncan #4427 and Martha A Knight #4258) b. 1862, d. >05-25-1882 in age 20 yrs. Child from second marriage of Martha Knight >#4258. > (4) Sarah Knight #4251, (daughter of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (5) Mary Knight #4252, (son of Moses >Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (6) Phereby Knight #4253, (daughter of >Moses Knight #4246 and Charity Carter #4247). > (7) James Benton #4360, (son of Absolom >Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). He married Eveline wife of James >Benton #4362. > (8) Ely C Benton #4361, (son of Absolom >Benton #4359 and Charity Carter #4247). > b. Priscilla Carter #4265. She married James >Knight #4245, (son of John Knight Sr* 5th GGF #4238 and >Isabell(Wife:John Knight Sr #4238)* #4239) d. aft 11-02-1786. James: >Feb.Ct.1794;Willed plantation and land on north side of Griffins Swamp to >son James; William all land on S.side of Griffins Swamp and west side of >Bair Branch; Jacob all of Winfield Wright estate. > (1) Dilly Knight #4266. She married Mr >Morris:hus Dilly Knight #4266. #4273. > (2) James Knight II #4267. DB >24-389, 1-13-1848. He married Spicey W:wife of James Knight II #4267 #4274. > (3) William Knight #4268. Brirbranch >Land. He married Kaatherine Anne Carter #26607. > (a) Priscilla Knight #26608. >She married Thomas Cotton #26609. > (4) Moore Knight #4269. > (5) Jacob Knight #4270. > (6) Elizabeth Knight II #4271. She >married Benjamin Coffield jr #4275, b. c1803, (son of Benjamin Coffield sr >#4287 and Roseannah Southland #4288). > (a) Miss Coffield 1st dau >Benjamin Coffield #4276. She married Mr Pender(Hus:1st dau of B >Coffield#4277 #4280. > [1] Elizabeth P Pender >#4281. Grand daughter of Benjamine Coffield #4277. > (b) Miss Coffield 2nd dau >Benjamin Coffield #4277. She married David Ward #4282. David: Smith Co >Tenn. > [1] David C Ward #4283. >Smith Co. Tenn. Grand child of Benjamin Coffield #4277. > (c) James Coffield #4278. > (d) Martha Coffield #4279, b. >c1828. She married (1) Mr Fort,hus Martha Coffield #4279 #4284, married >1838. She married (2) William Warren Taylor #4285, b. 12-13-1828 in Warren >KY, (son of William Warren Taylor #5143 and Elizabeth Patrick #5154) d. >02-20-1892 in Kane,Utah. > [1] Martha C Fort #4286, >(daughter of Mr Fort,hus Martha Coffield #4279 #4284 and Martha Coffield >#4279). > (7) Sarah Knight #4272. > (8) Dempsey Knight #26610. > c. Winifred Carter #4365. She married Mr >Taylor (Hus:Winneford Carter #4368. > d. Penelope Carter #4366. She married Mr >Whitaker hus Penelope Carter #4367. > e. Christan Carter #26539. She married John >Speir #26540. > 6. Daughter Carter #26520, b. 1720. He married Bryan >O'Quinn Jr #26521. > a. Patience O'Quinn #26526. > 7. Katherine Anne Carter #26522, b. c1720. Received >Personal Property. She married William Knight #26523. > 8. Susannah Carter #26524, b. c1725. Received personal >property. She married William Skinner #26525, d. 1771 in Northampton Co NC. > a. Richard Skinner #26611. > b. Kindred Skinner #26612. He married Judith >(Skinner) #26613. > (1) Susannah Skinner #26614. She >married Mr Hare #26615, married c1793. > (a) Benjamin Hare #26616. > (2) Sarah Skinner #26617. > (3) Katran Skinner #26618. > (4) Martha Skinner #26619. > (5) Mary Skinner #26620. > B. Joseph Carter #21472, (son of CaptainThomas Carter Jr #21480 >and Arabella Williamson #21493) b. 1696 in Barford, Lancaster Co VA, d. >1750. Joseph Carter bought property in Bertie Co on Feb 8, 1725 and Aug >11,1725. He married Catharine Stevens #21473, married 1719. > 1. Robert Carter #21471, d. aft 08-23-1883 in Windsor >area Bertie Co NC. At the age of twenty years, in 1755, the youngest son of >Joseph and Catharine removed himself to Bertie County NC. He died at age 49. >The researcher, Carolyn Agnes Foster Marbourg, of the Carter History stated >that the Carter family lived near Windsor where their house was destroyed by >fire and all family record lost. There is no mention of when his descendants >relocated in the Cotton House Area of Bertie where the Wiley Carter >Plantation is located today. > > Robert Carter served in the Revolutionary War in >Captain Clements Hall's Company, Second NC Battalion under Colonel Patten. >Enrolled May 4, 1776 and discharged November 10, 1778. His son Isaac Carter >served in the same Battalion. > > Robert's will written 30th day August 1783 and >probated in Windsor on 11-1784.He names his six children Michael, Rachel, >George, Olive, Robert and Isaac to whom he leaves the land and plantation >whereon he lived. He fails to identify his wife that remains unknown. I have >in my records a transcript of his will. > a. Robert Carter Jr #21475. > b. Rachel Carter #21476. > c. George Carter #21477. > d. Olive carter #21478. > e. Michael Carter #21496. > 2. Mary Elizabeth Carter #21479. She married James >Davis #21497. >II. John Carter #21484. There were five intermarriages between the >decentants Captain Thomas Carter and Captain William Ball Sr. He married >Frances Ball #21485, (daughter of Joseph Ball #21486 and Elizabeth (Ball) >#21487). > > > > >My Carter ancestor left Bertie Co. about 1808. > >His name was Turner Carter, b. ca 1780 >Wife Elitha Jenkins m. Oct 1804 married Bertie Co. >Children: William, Cullen, Margarate, Lewis Jenkins, Sarah Eliza, and >Delilah >Delilah and Margarate were born in NC 1806-07. The next child Cullen was >born in Caldwell Co., KY in 1809. > >I have had difficulty in doing research as there was another Turner Carter >b. early 1800s whose Mother was Margaret Carter. Margaret was the 2nd wife > of Cullen Carter. The name similarities tend to make me think that there >is a relationship there, but I have been unable to prove that. Turner >Carter is mentioned in Margaret's will, but it is the younger Turner who >remained in Bertie. > >Is anyone at all familiar with this line..or can you direct me? I have >worked previously with someone who is familiar with the Cullen/Margaret >line. > We have not been able to identify the 1st wife. We have discussed the >possibility that my Turner is from the 1st marriage but again we haven't >found any proof. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated! > >Carol > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2009 08:18:58
    1. [NCBERTIE] Bertie, Pate, Jernigan, Bass....
    2. jonefa
    3. http://www.dickshovel.com/coree.html My grandfather, Daniel Floyd ("Taud") Pate, told me the Coree were the "worst of the bad Indians." They were originally Bertie County Indians, according to Pate family tradition, lords of Currytuck and the Chowan Valley, before being driven southward by the Iroquoian Tuscarora. The Keyauwee are identified with the Coree and Nynee as tribes against which Gov. Daniel declared war as early as 1703, according to colonial Records of the North Carolina Executive Council. http://www.dickshovel.com/coreepro.html It was enlightening for me to recently learn from Billie Faye Evans (from South Carolina Baptist records in the Crozier Manuscript, Furman University) that Charles Pate, Jr., was born 1 May 1772 in Bertie County, N.C., that he married a Sarah Henderson, and in 1772 they had children Sarah, Charles, Mary, Rebecca, Ann, Shadrack (who settled in Wayne County), and Joel. This information indicates connection to a prominent and ambitious and successful line of land brigands, and proves my line back to Thoroughgood Pate of the Rappahannock Valley and Roquis Pocosin on Cashie River, sometimes of Edenton, where he last married Sarah Chevin, sister of Deputy Lord Proprietor Nathaniel Chevin and mother of William Pate, ward of Nathaniel Chevin. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Basses are documented as being French Huguenots, who masqueraded as Italians, bribed the King of England, and ended up as Nansemond Indians. Black Creek, is just north of Patetown. Richard Bass, who with the Jernigans and others founded the town of Waynesboro, came from there. Thus began a basic political, social and genealogical split in Wayne County, that was manifested in the depredations of the Barna Jernigan Gang, made up of Tories and Indians, which continues to our time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Faye Hays

    08/19/2009 08:16:04
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List
    2. Pete Austin
    3. Thanks for your remarks. Love thy family and neighbor, Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beth Wienberry Dix Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:00 AM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > those with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 08:02:02
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List
    2. Pete Austin
    3. Hi Faye, Thanks for your remarks. I feel he same, Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Faye Wallace Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:46 AM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Hi Kerry.  Are any of your Smith's from Northampton County?  My Smith's were from Roxobel/Rich Square area.  They lived close to the County line on what is now Shoulders Road between the two towns..  Had an Uncle who was killed on the railroad tracks between Roxobel and their home.,    Faye Northampton/ Smith/Bracy Bertie/ Hall/ Harrell/ Lassiter --- On Wed, 8/19/09, K. Smith <kscontrol@windstream.net> wrote: From: K. Smith <kscontrol@windstream.net> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:04 AM I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this.  This group is a truly gentle and courteous bunch.  On the other hand, I belong to over 30 lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are severe in their condemnation.  It just piles up too much specialty mail for those with general interest in the list. If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region.  Most other lists encourage similar approaches. I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are "just interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years.  I've carried my sons in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have taken for county lists.  I've traveled throughout the southeast and interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the lives and locations of my ancestors.  I love genealogy, and don't consider myself a "collector" in any sense. Thank you for the opportunity to "speak".  I will now be quiet, and enjoy the list. Kerry Smith Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mmaker52 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks for your insight Nina Claudia In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb writes: They are both related.  Genealogy is family history.   Family History is Genealogy.  You can't separate the two. For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR  and SAR and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should  stick to their pedigree charts. I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy.  I want to  find out what each of my ancestors died of.  This enables us to find  out what is hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in  the future in our grandchildren.  I am handicapped (Legally bind since  birth) and notice over the years that others on this site are also interested in  this.  I have seen posts related to other eye problems I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being  descended from Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy.   This is something that might save lives in the future.  We have to face the  future with an open mind. Nina Cobb In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,    linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: The  study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different categories.It  would be less time consuming for lineage researchers  too have two  different boards. One for  Genealogy,which  is  the study of  lineage. One for Family  history which is time periods and how they  lived. The history is very interesting  and i like to have it  included  but each has it's own place. This would free things up for  other people to feel free to post on each board  without offending  someone else. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52  <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > It is a great place and I love  going there as much as possible....I have > always said the air is  better there...LOL > >  Claudia > > > > > In a message dated 08/18/09  15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, > dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >  I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >  pudding-casserole > and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One  of my most prized > possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of  Bakertown Rd. It is my > ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came  to me from my grandmother > and then my mother. When I met > Neil  Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the homesites >  of all our ancestors on THe > Thomas side and the graveyard on the old  Thomas farm which is still in the > family. And he was so full of  information and stories about our kin! >  Yvonne > >  ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mmaker52"  <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: <elaine64@aol.com>;  <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02  PM > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >  > > > Elaine, > > I understand your frustration with the  number of emails coming in to your > > mailbox from the Bertie  List.  To help ease your situation, I just > > switched >  > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1  message > every > > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the  top of the message, you can > > quickly see the topics and if nothing  at all interests you, then quickly > > delete it. >  > > > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it,  just let me > > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual  messages. > > > > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and  most active lists in North > > Carolina.  We have gone through  very slow times and very active > > times.  Whenever a topic  like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes up, > we > > do tend  to get more emails.  However, as has been stated earlier on the >  > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of  the > > list.  In fact, I think you are the only person that has  spoken against > > this. > > > > Since Bertie  County is so old, our subscribers range in their research > >  interests from 1700's - present day.  That is a long period, and >  naturally > > means that the interests of the subscribers is just  about as wide. > > > > While you may consider this having  nothing to do with genealogy, most of > > our subscribers are  interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back in > > the old  days of Bertie County.  Rather than just having names and dates, >  > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived  in > North > > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people  may have completely lost. > > > > As far as Wills -- we'd  love to have you submit some.  Or visit the pages > > and see  all those that have been submitted already.  Remember also to >  look > > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that  was not > > specifically a will. > > > >  http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm > > > > To submit a  will, use the automated Forms: > >  http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ > > > > Be sure to let me  know if you have any trouble submitting. > > > > Also I do  hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >  topic. > > > > ------------------------------- > >  To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >  NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >  > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >  > > > > ------------------------------- > To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >  NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >  quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the  message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2009 08:00:00
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List
    2. Pete Austin
    3. Thank you for your response. Pete Austin -----Original Message----- From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mmaker52 Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:42 AM To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without nastiness. Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support you are giving to me and all past coordinators. Claudia Harrell Williams CC Bertie County In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, bethdix@comcast.net writes: I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going to watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. I never heard a word in response to my post. This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly while researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became very upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list members. I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without things turning ugly. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group is > a > truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over 30 > lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many are > severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail > for > those with general interest in the list. > > If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side > conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most > other > lists encourage similar approaches. > > I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are > "just > interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." > > I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my sons > in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). > > I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large > cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have > taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and > interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about the > lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't consider > myself a "collector" in any sense. > > Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and enjoy > the list. > > Kerry Smith > > Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, > Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Mmaker52 > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM > To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > Thanks for your insight Nina > > Claudia > > > In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb > writes: > They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is > Genealogy. You can't separate the two. > > For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and > SAR > and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should stick > to their pedigree charts. > > I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out what > each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is > hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the > future in > our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and > notice > over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I > have > seen posts related to other eye problems > > I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from > Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is something > that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with an > open > mind. > > Nina Cobb > > > In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: > > The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different > categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too > have > two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of > lineage. > One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The > history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each has > it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free > to > post on each board without offending someone else. > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: > >> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I have >> always said the air is better there...LOL >> >> Claudia >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >> pudding-casserole >> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >> grandmother > >> and then my mother. When I met >> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the > homesites >> of all our ancestors on THe >> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in > the >> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >> Yvonne >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >> > >> > Elaine, >> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to > your >> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >> > switched >> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 message >> every >> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then > quickly >> > delete it. >> > >> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just let > me >> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >> > >> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >> > up, > >> we >> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >> > the > >> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >> the > >> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >> > against > >> > this. >> > >> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their research >> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >> naturally >> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >> > >> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, most > of >> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived back > in >> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and > dates, >> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived in >> North >> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely > lost. >> > >> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the > pages >> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also to >> look >> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >> > specifically a will. >> > >> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >> > >> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >> > >> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >> > >> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >> topic. >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 07:55:47
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Jernigan
    2. jonefa
    3. I'm not a Jernigan researcher, but I have read about the Jernigans off and on in different places. One is Lame Dave Jernigan who is talked about on this website: http://www.dickshovel.com/coree20.html This is a "very" interesting site and has lots and lots of material that has been researched. These Jernigans ended up in Wayne County, but I'd better dollars to donuts they came through Bertie or one of the surrounding counties. "But there were so many Pates named Daniel in the area, he became the preacher man known as Silas, "A True Predestinarian Baptist," it says on his tombstone, when he answered the call to preach. Christian's mother Sithy was married to Jesse Ammons, a Coree. Her grandfather was "Lame" David Jernigan. The Pates and Jernigans were on opposing sides for years in political conflict that rocked and shocked the county for generations. This conflict is obliquely related to The Search for Johnny Chevin. It was part of a political struggle over the development of Wayne County." Faye Hays ----- Original Message ----- From: "irene rostine" <irenegdnte@cox.net> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > Hi Bertie County-I was born in Bertie County and I have subscribed to your > list for a long time now, but have never sent in any names. The > discussions > on the list are extremely interesting and informational. I have begun to > work on my genealogy and will submit a request. Does anyone have any > information on the Jernigans?? George and Lodema were my grandparents. > They had 14 children and lived on a farm there. > Thanks > Irene in Las Vegas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> > To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:41 AM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List > > >> Thanks Beth and all that have responded. We are adults and have no need >> for things to turn ugly. Our opinions like our ancestry is varied and I >> believe we are all entitled. Our Bertie list is one of the best around >> and I feel we are just one big happy family. Like all families we all >> have different beliefs but thankfully we can voice these without >> nastiness. >> >> Thank you all for continuing to make us the best and all of the support >> you are giving to me and all past coordinators. >> >> Claudia Harrell Williams >> CC Bertie County >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 08/19/09 06:00:12 Eastern Daylight Time, >> bethdix@comcast.net writes: >> I don't belong to very many mailing lists, but, while working on my >> husband's family, I joined the Floyd Co., VA, list. During the time I >> belonged to that list, there were discussions about what they were going >> to >> watch on TV that night, jokes, political discussions, and their personal >> health problems. I posted a "respectful" statement to that list stating >> that I felt their discussions were inappropriate for a genealogy forum. >> I >> never heard a word in response to my post. >> >> This same subject came up on an Illinois list I subscribed to briefly >> while >> researching my father's side. One of the members of that list became >> very >> upset at some of the non-genealogical posts. Some of the other members >> became very defensive and very rude statements were made among the list >> members. >> >> I think it's great that our Bertie list can discuss our opinions without >> things turning ugly. >> >> Beth >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "K. Smith" <kscontrol@windstream.net> >> To: <ncbertie@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >> >> >>> I'm almost sorry for my original comment that started this. This group >>> is >>> a >>> truly gentle and courteous bunch. On the other hand, I belong to over >>> 30 >>> lists, and believe me, most do not allow side "conversations" and many >>> are >>> severe in their condemnation. It just piles up too much specialty mail >>> for >>> those with general interest in the list. >>> >>> If I make a great "Smith" connection...I'll soon take it to a side >>> conversation, or move it to a Smith list of appropriate region. Most >>> other >>> lists encourage similar approaches. >>> >>> I don't really appreciate the implication that those who disagree are >>> "just >>> interested in lineages..." and "care nothing for their ancestors." >>> >>> I've been doing serious genealogy for over 25 years. I've carried my >>> sons >>> in baby carriers through countless cemeteries (they are 18 and 25 now). >>> >>> I have photographed hundreds of tombstones, inventoried several large >>> cemeteries, and volunteered many hours to transcribe photos others have >>> taken for county lists. I've traveled throughout the southeast and >>> interviewed distant relatives in search of anything I can learn about >>> the >>> lives and locations of my ancestors. I love genealogy, and don't >>> consider >>> myself a "collector" in any sense. >>> >>> Thank you for the opportunity to "speak". I will now be quiet, and >>> enjoy >>> the list. >>> >>> Kerry Smith >>> >>> Searching for Fleetwoods, Sawyers, Cahoons, and other lines in Bertie, >>> Hertford, and Tyrrell Counties. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com >>> [mailto:ncbertie-bounces@rootsweb.com] >>> On Behalf Of Mmaker52 >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:15 PM >>> To: ncbertie@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>> >>> Thanks for your insight Nina >>> >>> Claudia >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 08/18/09 19:57:43 Eastern Daylight Time, Ninajcobb >>> writes: >>> They are both related. Genealogy is family history. Family History is >>> Genealogy. You can't separate the two. >>> >>> For those who are just interested in lineages for getting into DAR and >>> SAR >>> and care nothing for the lives of their ancestors then they should >>> stick >>> to their pedigree charts. >>> >>> I am also very interested in Genetic Genealogy. I want to find out >>> what >>> each of my ancestors died of. This enables us to find out what is >>> hereditary in our families and make us aware of what to look for in the >>> future in >>> our grandchildren. I am handicapped (Legally bind since birth) and >>> notice >>> over the years that others on this site are also interested in this. I >>> have >>> seen posts related to other eye problems >>> >>> I am related to a lot of folks in the Bertie area, being descended from >>> Rev. Joseph W. White and George W. Cobb, Squire Billy. This is >>> something >>> that might save lives in the future. We have to face the future with >>> an >>> open >>> mind. >>> >>> Nina Cobb >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 8/18/2009 5:45:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> linda.lef45@gmail.com writes: >>> >>> The study of Genealogy and Family History fall into two different >>> categories.It would be less time consuming for lineage researchers too >>> have >>> two different boards. One for Genealogy,which is the study of >>> lineage. >>> One for Family history which is time periods and how they lived. The >>> history is very interesting and i like to have it included but each >>> has >>> it's own place. This would free things up for other people to feel free >>> to >>> post on each board without offending someone else. >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Mmaker52 <mmaker52@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It is a great place and I love going there as much as possible....I >>>> have >>>> always said the air is better there...LOL >>>> >>>> Claudia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 08/18/09 15:36:46 Eastern Daylight Time, >>>> dlparks@earthlink.net writes: >>>> I do't mind the recipes at all. In fact, I made the tomato >>>> pudding-casserole >>>> and did not care for it but my husband loved it. One of my most prized >>>> possessions came from Bertie Co. in the area of Bakertown Rd. It is my >>>> ggggrandmothers old iron cooking pot which came to me from my >>>> grandmother >>> >>>> and then my mother. When I met >>>> Neil Baker on the Bertie sight I went there and he showed me the >>> homesites >>>> of all our ancestors on THe >>>> Thomas side and the graveyard on the old Thomas farm which is still in >>> the >>>> family. And he was so full of information and stories about our kin! >>>> Yvonne >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mmaker52" <mmaker52@aol.com> >>>> To: <elaine64@aol.com>; <ncbertie-l@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:02 PM >>>> Subject: [NCBERTIE] Bertie County List >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Elaine, >>>> > I understand your frustration with the number of emails coming in to >>> your >>>> > mailbox from the Bertie List. To help ease your situation, I just >>>> > switched >>>> > you to "Digest" Mode --- this will enable you to have only 1 >>>> message >>>> every >>>> > 12 hrs. and since it has an index at the top of the message, you can >>>> > quickly see the topics and if nothing at all interests you, then >>> quickly >>>> > delete it. >>>> > >>>> > If after a couple of days of trying this, you don't like it, just >>>> > let >>> me >>>> > know and I'll switch you back to receiving individual messages. >>>> > >>>> > The Bertie List is one of the oldest and most active lists in North >>>> > Carolina. We have gone through very slow times and very active >>>> > times. Whenever a topic like the present one -- "recipes" -- comes >>>> > up, >>> >>>> we >>>> > do tend to get more emails. However, as has been stated earlier on >>>> > the >>> >>>> > list, having general topics like this is very popular with most of >>>> the >>> >>>> > list. In fact, I think you are the only person that has spoken >>>> > against >>> >>>> > this. >>>> > >>>> > Since Bertie County is so old, our subscribers range in their >>>> > research >>>> > interests from 1700's - present day. That is a long period, and >>>> naturally >>>> > means that the interests of the subscribers is just about as wide. >>>> > >>>> > While you may consider this having nothing to do with genealogy, >>>> > most >>> of >>>> > our subscribers are interested in knowing how our ancestors lived >>>> > back >>> in >>>> > the old days of Bertie County. Rather than just having names and >>> dates, >>>> > these recipes, help us see them as real, living people, who lived >>>> in >>>> North >>>> > Carolina, and cooked in ways that modern people may have completely >>> lost. >>>> > >>>> > As far as Wills -- we'd love to have you submit some. Or visit the >>> pages >>>> > and see all those that have been submitted already. Remember also >>>> > to >>>> look >>>> > for "Courts" -- as that contains similar information that was not >>>> > specifically a will. >>>> > >>>> > http://usgwarchives.net/nc/bertie.htm >>>> > >>>> > To submit a will, use the automated Forms: >>>> > http://www.genrecords.org/ncfiles/ >>>> > >>>> > Be sure to let me know if you have any trouble submitting. >>>> > >>>> > Also I do hope you understand where we're coming from on the Recipe >>>> topic. >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> > the >>>> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.60/2311 - Release Date: >> 08/18/09 >> 06:03:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NCBERTIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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    08/19/2009 07:54:10