This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bond Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2UB.2ACI/1663.1.2 Message Board Post: Sandra, Just making ground w/ my Bond genealogy. My grandfather's name was Bond, Marcus Turner. His parents, according to 1910 Kentucky Census, were W. T. Bond, born in Georgia, my guess, late 1870s or 1880s. W. T. Bond was 35 years old on the 1910 census. His wife, Dessie, age 24? on the same census, no maiden name. Any relation or connection?? My uncle, of course my grandfather's son was William Turner Bond, Barbourville, Kentucky. You can email directly if you like. catherineflores@prodigy.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/1843 Message Board Post: Families noted in census numbers 728-734 are repeated in census numbers 735-741. Several families from around the New Bridge area are noted in the slave and/or agricultural schedules but are not noted in the population schedule. My assumption is that the clerk or who ever transfered the original data to the official census entered one page twice and omitted one page. Does anyone know if the original field copies still exist and if they do, where they can be found? If anyone can help, please email me direct.

I have not been able to SEARCH the Bertie site for about a week. It always says nothing found and it does so instantaneously. I anyone else having this problem?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Simmons, Charlton, Mizelle ,Collins,Watson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/1842 Message Board Post: I am searching for a early Simmons family, his name was Charlton or Dempsey,was born near 1794- 1801 He was gone out of Bertie county by 1816as he had land in Greene Co. 1816,went under the name of Dempsey.He was in Greene Co in 1820. The name Charlton was on a record CD100 Linked Pedigrees United Ancestries Linked Pedigrees No91-102 married to Mary Moore born Askerville Bertie Co. NC. They had seven children born from 1819 to1829 The youngest two were born 1832 and 183 5 in Crawford Co Ill. I am wondering if Charlton is the son of John and Nancy Watson Simmons? Is any one working on the linage of Charlton,Mizelle, Collins,Watson, then John Simmons and Nancy Watson Simmons Did they come down from Nansemond Co. Va.?with the rest of the Bertie migration people? Sincerely Glenys Simmons Gerlach ggerlach2@gwtc.net

Is it me? or is Rootsweb having server problems?

I am Lou Lyon Craig, Jr. born and raised in Windsor, but my mother was Hilma Ward Craig. We do not have a Lucille in our Craig line. Lou Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: ELIZABETH SCHOEB To: Elaine Craig Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book I noticed that you sign your name Lou Craid. Would you by chance be Louline Craig whose mother is Lucille? Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: Elaine Craig Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 11:41 AM To: NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book We would all like a copy of this book!!!!!! Apparently Cynthia Herrin copied info put on the Bertie Website by different individuals with Bertie County ancestors and made up a "Book" name and sold the info to Ancestry.com. I do not think that a book exists.I think that she is just a fraud and other adjectives that are not allowed on this Website. Lou Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "katiesue1" <katiesue1@email.msn.com> To: <NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book > Has anyone every heard of this book. Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our County and Its Distinguished Citizens". I'd like to get a copy if possible. > > Suzan > > > > ==== NCBERTIE Mailing List ==== > Bertie County Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm > Many pages of information on-line. I welcome yours as well! > Be sure to "search" on this page! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== NCBERTIE Mailing List ==== Bertie County Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm Many pages of information on-line. I welcome yours as well! Be sure to "search" on this page! Send to me: varcsix@hot.rr.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2UB.2ACI/302.657.661 Message Board Post: Several years have passed since your postings on this family. I know that there are still Basnight's (African American and non) in Tyrrell County, NC. There is a researcher in Tyrrell Co who has lots of info on the Basnight family. Check out the Tyrrell County Genweb site for good info. Also the Basnight message board. My husband is descended from the Basnights through several lines way back, though that isn't his surname & he isn't African American. I'm not from there but am always interested in learning more about that area. Have you ever read the book "Somerset Homecoming" by Dorothy Redford Spruill? She writes about the African-Americans who were on the Collins Plantation in Washington Co, NC adjacent to Tyrrell County. It's a great book detailing her search for her African American roots. The Basnights originally spelled their surname Basnit and Basnett in eastern NC.

It's a shame that they don't have to pay for using posted info, but since they (Ancestry.com) bought Rootsweb, they probably have the right to use it anyway they see fit. I believe I read that somewhere when they bought them out -- that anything posted to those sites became their property!! Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: <JGH900@aol.com> To: <NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book > I too talked to Herrin and she was very evasive. I wasted untold numbers of > hours searching for the publisher, contacting sellers of old and antique > books, libraries, etc. to find a 2nd copy. There are NO other copies. I too > offered her whatever she wanted for a photocopy of the "book" and she > declined. The copyright has long expired. I do not think there is any > information in the data she posted to Ancestry.com that cannot be found on > the Bertie site and archived Bertie forum messages. When I started about 2 or > 2 1/2 years ago I sent out messages that contained what I though was true > about my Holders that I now know is wrong. Her book contains the wrong info. > Where else could she have gotten that info? Personal details like brawling, > drinking, illicite love links and the like come right from the Church minutes > posted on the Bertie site. > > I believe Herrin violated the copyright held by the Bertie site (rootsweb). > > I do have to admit when she first came out with her book she had many of us > excited, only to disappoint us. > > Let's say, just for conversational purposes, that the data she posted is > mostly accurate --- what right does Ancestry.com have to post information > taken right off the Bertie site and forum? We should be able to access it for > free. Quite a number of generous people have spent hours, days, weeks of > thier time to post that data for the free use of Bertie County researchers. > Can you imagine the time invested by Virginia Crilley? If Ancestry.com > charges for accessing the data they should at least pay the people who posted > it first. > > Jim Holder > > > ==== NCBERTIE Mailing List ==== > Post your Query on > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.northcarolina.counties.bertie > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I too talked to Herrin and she was very evasive. I wasted untold numbers of hours searching for the publisher, contacting sellers of old and antique books, libraries, etc. to find a 2nd copy. There are NO other copies. I too offered her whatever she wanted for a photocopy of the "book" and she declined. The copyright has long expired. I do not think there is any information in the data she posted to Ancestry.com that cannot be found on the Bertie site and archived Bertie forum messages. When I started about 2 or 2 1/2 years ago I sent out messages that contained what I though was true about my Holders that I now know is wrong. Her book contains the wrong info. Where else could she have gotten that info? Personal details like brawling, drinking, illicite love links and the like come right from the Church minutes posted on the Bertie site. I believe Herrin violated the copyright held by the Bertie site (rootsweb). I do have to admit when she first came out with her book she had many of us excited, only to disappoint us. Let's say, just for conversational purposes, that the data she posted is mostly accurate --- what right does Ancestry.com have to post information taken right off the Bertie site and forum? We should be able to access it for free. Quite a number of generous people have spent hours, days, weeks of thier time to post that data for the free use of Bertie County researchers. Can you imagine the time invested by Virginia Crilley? If Ancestry.com charges for accessing the data they should at least pay the people who posted it first. Jim Holder

Cynthia Herrin is - to be kind - a suspicious character. When I contacted her over a year ago re: this phantom book, she claimed that she had only one copy but would try to locate another one for me. When I asked her the possibility of copying the book at a fair price, she claiming it was 'far too laborious'. When I questioned her about 'Sentinel Publications' in Lewiston-Woodville where she claimed it was published in 1920 (she has now changed the publishing location from L-W to Kinston on the Ancestry.com website), she said she would have to "check on that.... she didn't have the book in front of her". Though I left my phone and email address with her to call me back, she never did. When I contacted her again after two months, questioning the existence of that book, she curtly assured me that such a book existed, that she did not have to prove it to me or to anyone ! Further emails to her were unanswered. I have written to Ancestry.com to ask them to remove that database (which is chock full of misinformation anyway) and to investigate Cynthia Herrin's sources. It may be helpful if any of you care to do that, too. Molly Elaine Craig wrote: > > We would all like a copy of this book!!!!!! Apparently Cynthia Herrin copied > info put on the Bertie Website by different individuals with Bertie County > ancestors and made up a "Book" name and sold the info to Ancestry.com. I do > not think that a book exists.I think that she is just a fraud and other > adjectives that are not allowed on this Website. > > Lou Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "katiesue1" <katiesue1@email.msn.com> > To: <NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:02 PM > Subject: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book > > > Has anyone every heard of this book. Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our > County and Its Distinguished Citizens". I'd like to get a copy if > possible. > > > > Suzan > > > > > >

We would all like a copy of this book!!!!!! Apparently Cynthia Herrin copied info put on the Bertie Website by different individuals with Bertie County ancestors and made up a "Book" name and sold the info to Ancestry.com. I do not think that a book exists.I think that she is just a fraud and other adjectives that are not allowed on this Website. Lou Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "katiesue1" <katiesue1@email.msn.com> To: <NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Looking for a book > Has anyone every heard of this book. Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our County and Its Distinguished Citizens". I'd like to get a copy if possible. > > Suzan > > > > ==== NCBERTIE Mailing List ==== > Bertie County Page http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbertie/index.htm > Many pages of information on-line. I welcome yours as well! > Be sure to "search" on this page! > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

> > Aquilla Oxley was my husband's gr. grandfather. I > was very interested that he was guardian for Reuben > Miller's children. Later August Holley became > guardian for Aquilla's children. Have you read the > Cobb book. Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and > Relatives, 1613-1983. There are a few references to > Millers and lots of Cobbs. Extensive information on > Bertie County. Let me know if I can look up > something for you, if you do not have the book. > Zerline > Dear Zerline, My gg grandmother was Rutha Cobb, 1839-1891, daughter of Hardy Cobb, born 1811, and Cena ? (Outlaw, I suspect.) Have not been able to find Hardy's parents although circumstantial evidence points to James Cobb as a likely father. These people all lived in area of Ross Church. Do they appear in the Cobb book? Thanks in advance, Paul Johnson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

Has anyone every heard of this book. Bertie Beginnings: The Story of Our County and Its Distinguished Citizens". I'd like to get a copy if possible. Suzan

I am looking for proof of the parents of Lott Gregory wife Nanch unknown Born 1742 Died 07/24/1823 Turkek Creek Sampson County NC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jernigan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/60.78.1.1 Message Board Post: I have recorded this net source: a Blanchard Smith ->bdsr@erols.com. Mary

I am hitting a lead brick wall on tracing my ggg grandfathers ancestry. His name was James Rose and he owned land in Northampton County. In his will, his name was listed as "James Rows". James died in 1825. I do not know when or where he was born or the names of his parents. I highly suspect that he lived in Bertie County before it was renamed Northampton County. My problem is that the Roses were extremely poor spellers!!! There are Roads, Roades,etc. listed in Bertie County records. I think that James Rose's father may have been a Henry Rose or a Thomas Rose whose names are incorrectly spelled in these old records. Please help me find my way among the many thorns in tracing my Rose family line back to Kilravock Scotland. Thank you. --- Randolph Rose --- regnbetsy@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: The #1 provider of the Real Internet.

Virginia, I posted a Holder cemetery and showed an Annie P. Britt b. 9/17/1817 and d. 3/18/1928. I can now confirm that she was born on 9/17/1847 NOT 9/17/1817. The Thomas Britt buried there was her husband. If you can correct the posting, please do. Thank you. Jim Holder

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: White,Mouser Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/1841 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Joabert, Joseph PG and Parthema White. Thanks Chad

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Oxley, Britt, Raynor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2UB.2ACI/1802.2 Message Board Post: Aquilla Oxley was my husband's gr. grandfather. I was very interested that he was guardian for Reuben Miller's children. Later August Holley became guardian for Aquilla's children. Have you read the Cobb book. Nicholas Cobb Descendants, Neighbors and Relatives, 1613-1983. There are a few references to Millers and lots of Cobbs. Extensive information on Bertie County. Let me know if I can look up something for you, if you do not have the book. Zerline

>Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:03:52 -0600 >X-From_: jlassiter@rephan.com Wed Jun 12 08:03:52 2002 >From: "Joseph R. Lassiter, Jr." <jlassiter@rephan.com> >To: <NCBERTIE-L@rootsweb.com> >Old-Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:01:53 -0400 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >Importance: Normal >X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list >Subject: {not a subscriber} Holders of Bertie Co. >X-Envelope-To: NCBERTIE-L > >I have seen a lot of Holder inquiries in recent weeks, and thought I would >mention the following. I have a Hudgins line from Gloucester County, >Virginia, that originated from a Hudgins from Wales and Liverpool. Four sons >who were ships captains ended up in Gloucester in the mid-1600s. The oldest, >William Hudgins, was married to a Mary Holder, and they began a long line of >Holder Hudgins. I think there were at least six of them, Holder Hudgins III, >IV, V, etc. If I recall correctly, Mary Holder's father was a Thomas Holder, >who was said to be the secretary of the Royal African Company. Not sure >where the Bertie County Holders originated from, but figured I would alert >you to a possible Gloucester connection. I have not seen any other Holders >in Gloucester Co., VA. other than Mary Holder. My Hudgins line migrated to >Gates Co., NC. > >If responding to me please respond to jaylassiter@cox.net > >Jay Lassiter > >Norfolk VA. Virginia Crilley