Heritage quest. If you would like a lookup I'll be glad to do that, most likely this evening. Just send me name and location and any possible alternate spellings and I'll see what I can find. Jackie Rose Lowther wrote: > Where did you find thei Rev. War Pension database? > >

Where did you find thei Rev. War Pension database? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tanimara Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Possible Bertie County Soldier I kinda missed the beginning of this discussion but I took a look at the Rev War Pension database and found John Lafferty's Rev War Pension Application. Series: M805 Roll: 508 Image: 33 File: S42813 1. He did serve under Col Thomas Polk NC Continental line for three years, he enlisted June 10, 1776, was in the battle of Monmouth, discharged June 15, 1779 He was allowed Pension on his application executed May 13, 1818 at which time he was 64yo. 2. He moved to Tioga Co PA and was there in 1820 3. He moved to NY, he was there in 1821 in Freedom, Cattaraugus County NY. 4. He mentions one granddaughter living with him (Lucy Bruce age 4 years and "my Phebe age 57 and infirm like myself". The name Bruce is not clearly written and may be Brun or Breen. 5. No date of death of other family info is included. I can send you the images if you wish. Just contact me off list at [email protected] Jackie [email protected] wrote: > Why, do you suspect that he is from Bertie County? Col. Thomas Polk > is from Mecklenburg County, NC. It sounds from your email that John > Lafferty may have been a soldier in the N. C. Continental Line. I > think you would do better to look at the records in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC. > > Nina Cobb > Charlotte, NC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I kinda missed the beginning of this discussion but I took a look at the Rev War Pension database and found John Lafferty's Rev War Pension Application. Series: M805 Roll: 508 Image: 33 File: S42813 1. He did serve under Col Thomas Polk NC Continental line for three years, he enlisted June 10, 1776, was in the battle of Monmouth, discharged June 15, 1779 He was allowed Pension on his application executed May 13, 1818 at which time he was 64yo. 2. He moved to Tioga Co PA and was there in 1820 3. He moved to NY, he was there in 1821 in Freedom, Cattaraugus County NY. 4. He mentions one granddaughter living with him (Lucy Bruce age 4 years and "my Phebe age 57 and infirm like myself". The name Bruce is not clearly written and may be Brun or Breen. 5. No date of death of other family info is included. I can send you the images if you wish. Just contact me off list at [email protected] Jackie [email protected] wrote: > Why, do you suspect that he is from Bertie County? Col. Thomas Polk is from > Mecklenburg County, NC. It sounds from your email that John Lafferty may have > been a soldier in the N. C. Continental Line. I think you would do better to > look at the records in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC. > > Nina Cobb > Charlotte, NC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Why, do you suspect that he is from Bertie County? Col. Thomas Polk is from Mecklenburg County, NC. It sounds from your email that John Lafferty may have been a soldier in the N. C. Continental Line. I think you would do better to look at the records in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, NC. Nina Cobb Charlotte, NC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Polk/Smith/Lafferty/Bartoo Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/2245 Message Board Post: HI folks, I"m looking for someone who is well versed on the history of Col. Thomas Polks Regiment in the Revolutionary War. I"m trying to determine the birth place and possible parentage of the following John Lafferty. Rather than retype all my info I am opting to copy and paste: ================================ ========================================================= John Lafferty was a soldier in the Revolutionary War. His pension file indicates that he enlisted 10 Jun 1776 as a private for a period of one year, under Capt. ???? Smith in the Regiment commanded by Col. Thomas Polk of the line of North Carolina. Before that year had expired, he re - enlisted for two more years. He states that he fought in the battle at Monmouth, New Jersey. He was discharged 15 Jun 1799. ( place of enlistment or discharge not given) His application for pension was filed through the courthouse at Wellsborough, Tioga county, Pennsylvania. He was granted pension on his application 13 May 1818 at the rate of $8 per month. ( certificate # 8880) With regard to his circumstances, John makes the following statement: " I by trade a Cooper, but by age and infirmity am not able to pursue that occupation. I have living with me one grandchild viz Lucy Bruce ( last name could be Brace, Breen or Braun - not clearly written) and my Phebe age fifty seven and infirm like myself." ( date: 20 Sept 1820) signed by Uriah Spencer - proxy. John’s pension was transferred from Pennsylvania to New York " 28 Dec 1821 from 21 Sept 1821" ======================================================== The 1800 census of Cherry Valley, Otsego, New York shows a John Lafferty with the following: 2 free white males under 10 years of age, 1 free white male 10 to 16 years of age, 1 free white male 16 to 26 years of age, and 1 male 45 years of age and over; 3 free white females under 10 years of age, 1 free white female 10 to 16 years of age, and 1 female 45 years and over. ( This could be our John......) 1810 census of Oneida County, New York shows the following: "Lafedy" ( no first initial) with 2 males under 10 yrs, 1 male 10 - 16 years, and 1 male over 45 yrs; 1 female under 10 yrs, 1 female 10 - 16 yrs, and 1 female over 45 yrs. Also lists: " E Lafedy" with 2 males under 10 yrs, 1 male 16 - 26 yrs, and 1 female 16 - 26 yrs. *** Could possibly be John and his brother???????? ======================================================== The 1820 census of Jackson Twp, Tioga County, Pennsylvania shows John "Lafety" with 1 male 16- 20 yrs, 1 male over 45 yrs, 1 female under 10 yrs, 1 female 16 - 18 yrs, and 1 female over 45 years. ( this census also shows living near to John, James "Lafety" a Daniel Phillips and Hannah Phillips.) ======================================================== Letter from James Barton 10 Apr 1999 RE: Land Records " Hi Carol, First; in 1947 the Olean Chapter of the Daughters of the American Revolution in Olean, New York, published a booklet titled " Revolutionary War Soldiers Buried in Cattaraugus County, New York" on page 29 " John Lafferty - Moved to Freedom in 1821 and died there. Pension granted * 17 Mar 1819 from Tioga county, Pennsylvania for service in North Carolina. Age 79. Served three years." ** ( date differs from pension file) And so it goes throughout the book. It does not say where in Cattaraugus County they were buried. Also, the age 79 is puzzling. 79 what? You’ve probably already seen this, but if not, it again proves that this John Lafferty is the Revolutionary Soldier and there is a Pennsylvania connection. I’ll put the pages of interest in the mail to you. Second; I went back through the index to the Holland Land Company Records and actually read what they said. ( HLC) 26 Oct 1821 John Lafferty purchased the original deed to at least a part of Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. This is record 500 - 0002. I think they really mean 1822, because record 500 is their code for 1822. Or they may have ment record 501-002. ( index says 500-0002) In 1832 ( index says 26 Oct 1822) John Lafferty allowed that land to revert back to the Holland Land Company. This is record 510-0021. On 30 Jan 1832, Daniel Phillips negotiated a deed for at least a part of Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. It is probably the same piece of property, or perhaps a different piece of the same Lot 34. This is record 510 - 0005. Ok, we somehow have John Lafferty and Daniel Phillips dealing with the same piece of property, or adjoining pieces of the same lot. Township 6, Range 4 is Freedom, with the exception of the southwest corner which is Machias. All of this is consistent with John Lafferty moving to Freedom in 1821 as stated other places. Now we know, by legal description, Lot 34, Township 6, Range 4. In other words, Lot 34 of Freedom, Township……….. I know the census shows Daniel Phillips place as being in Farmersville, but the boundries may have changed, or the census eneumerator didn’t know exactly where the township lines were and thought the property was in Farmersville, New York. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Carol, I noted your query on the Tri Counties website for the name Lafferty in Jackson Township.Today, I was at Wellsboro and copied more Jackson Township assessment lists: 1817 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Eliphaz Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. 1818 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Elijah Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. 1819 Lafferty, Daniel Lafferty, Elijah Lafferty, John Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, James 1820 Lafferty, John Lafferty, James - unable to pay for schooling of son John P Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, Daniel - unable to pay for schooling of daughters Amanda and Matilda Lafferty, Eliphas Philips, Hannah, widow - unable to pay for schooling of Wm and Betsy 1821 Lafferty, John Lafferty, James Lafferty, John Jr. Lafferty, Daniel removed Lafferty, Eliphus removed Phillips, Hannah - unable to pay for schooling of William and Betsy J. Kelsey Jones [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I forgot to mention that families had to pay for schooling of their children until schools went public (I think in the 1830's). There were 20 families in Jacskon in 1820 unable to pay for their children's schooling which became a debt of the county to pay. So, that is an explanation of what that means. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Carol, I am not related to the Laffertys. My interest is documenting the early families in this area and it has been for many years. I have copied over 100 cemeteries and look for more resource documents to make them available, such as the assessment records. I am not sure if you are aware but a portion of the bottom half of page 1 (2 pages total) for the 1820 Jackson census is missing so that is the reason that only John and James appear. J. Kelsey Jones ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The 1822 Jackson Twp Tax Roll Name List of Tioga County Pennsylvania, shows: James Lafferty John Lafferty - removed John Lafferty Jr Hannah Phillips - removed The 1830 census of Sardenia, Erie, New York shows John "Lattenday" with 1 male 70 - 80 yrs and 1 female 60 - 70 yrs Nearby is James "Lattenday" with 2 males 5 - 10 years, 1 male 10 - 15 years, 1 male 15 - 20 years, and 1 male 4- - 50 yrs; 1 female 5 - 10 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. Also: Daniel "Lattenday" with 1 male under 5 years, 3 males 5 - 10 yrs, 1 male 40 - 50 yrs, 1 female under 5 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, 1 female 20 - 30 yrs and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. In the "History of Cattaraugus County" by L. H. Everts put 1879 on p. 393- 393 is an alphabetical listing of "resident landowners in the town of Freedom in 1835." shows John Lafferty - owned 77 acres - improved 5 acres. The "Census of Pensioners for Revolutionary or Military Service" 1 Jun 1840, with their names, ages, and places of residence - pub 1841, reprint 1954 on p. 74 New York - Northern District - Cattaraugus County shows: John Lafferty - 85 yrs - living in the household of Daniel Phillips, town of Farmersville. The 1840 census of Farmersville, Cattaraugus county, New York, shows Daniel Phillips with 1 male under 5 yrs, 1 male 5 - 10 yrs, 1 male 16 - 20 yrs, 1 male 40 - 50 yrs, 1 male 80 - 90 yrs; 2 females 5 - 10 yrs, 2 females 10 - 15 yrs, 1 female 16 - 20 yrs and 1 female 30 - 40 yrs. Phoebe died between 1830 and 1840, most likely in Sardenia, NY. John died after 1 Jun 1840 probably at Farmersville, NY. Burial locations, nor actual death records have not been located. John and Phoebe had 10 children. I have traced several of the families of his children, up to and including me at the present generation. I"m willing to share this info if anyone thinks they might be related, or has any ideas as to where specifically John might have been living when he enlisted, and who his parents were. Also another question: my american history is rusty, and some family members say that John's wife, Phoebe was born of Quaker Parents. Were there Quaker settlements in North Carolina at that time? Please reply to [email protected] Thanks folks! Carol PS. I also have a copy of John's Pension file, which I can type and email to anyone who might like it for "the records."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/273.300.356.358.359.912.2.2 Message Board Post: Thanks for posting this picture! He is my ggg grandpa. Through his son John Calvin Baker then Nelson Grant Baker then Edward Jesse Baker who was my grandpa.

Hi Amiee. We were getting worried about you. Hadn't heard from you in a long time. Buddy told me he had tried to call but got no answer. How are you???? --- [email protected] wrote: > Hi Virginia, > > I have just moved from > Philadelphia to Ephrata, > Pa. I have some Bible records on the Barnes. > However, still opening boxes. As > soon as I get to the box with the Barnes in it I > will send them to you. > > > The Barnes, Tynes and > Veal are in this Bible. I > will be happy to share. > > > Regards, > Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Virginia, I have just moved from Philadelphia to Ephrata, Pa. I have some Bible records on the Barnes. However, still opening boxes. As soon as I get to the box with the Barnes in it I will send them to you. The Barnes, Tynes and Veal are in this Bible. I will be happy to share. Regards, Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall

I'm trying to find out about later Veal, Horn and Barnes families in Bertie around 1850's. I. Richard Veale (1773-1820) married Anne Harrell 1800 II. Son: Richard (b. 1799) not sure who he married III. Richard Richard J. Veale born @1816 and Harriet Amanda Horne born 1815 (these are in the 1850 Bertie Census as Andrew J. Veale (so my theory is that his full name was Richard Andrew Jackson Veale, and maybe to stop some of the confusion, didn't use Richard) NEED to find out people who have researched Richard and Harriet's children. (Elizabeth, Margaret A., Mary E. , Thomas R., Elen L., Joseph T., William J, Henry We think one of them was: Elizabeth Veale b1838 married Richard Barnes b1828 Virginia Crilley

>From a person on the sidelines. :-) hahaha ----- Original Message ----- From: Thelma To: Paul Drake Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 10:02 PM Subject: Re: 3 Brothers Theory Yep, and those 3 brothers, if there name is "Stewart" ALWAYS descend from royalty. I know that just ain't true because my line is the only Stewart royal line and I'm the only one researching it. Just haven't decided which of my Stewart lines is the royal one yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5119 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Interestingly, my wife's entire family tells that ALL of them are 1/8th Cherokee. In fact, none now alive are more than 1/32, and my wife is 1/64th. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Oliver To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] inaccurate stories of brothers >At every single class I have taught over many years, I have to smile >at the fact that so very many people gave a three brothers tale. >Then too, in virtually every such tale, it is stated that one >brother went West, another of the 3 owned more land than anyone "in >the county", and the third bro. disappeared. > >I guess no sisters ever came, just groups of 3 brothers together. > HMMMMMMMMMMM ??? Paul, how many times have you encountered that elusive "great-grandmother was a full-blooded Cherokee princess" story? Pat -- Pat Oliver [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5119 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Hi, Pat; just about neck and neck with the 3 brothers stories hahahahaha ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Oliver To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] inaccurate stories of brothers >At every single class I have taught over many years, I have to smile >at the fact that so very many people gave a three brothers tale. >Then too, in virtually every such tale, it is stated that one >brother went West, another of the 3 owned more land than anyone "in >the county", and the third bro. disappeared. > >I guess no sisters ever came, just groups of 3 brothers together. > HMMMMMMMMMMM ??? Paul, how many times have you encountered that elusive "great-grandmother was a full-blooded Cherokee princess" story? Pat -- Pat Oliver [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5119 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

>At every single class I have taught over many years, I have to smile >at the fact that so very many people gave a three brothers tale. >Then too, in virtually every such tale, it is stated that one >brother went West, another of the 3 owned more land than anyone "in >the county", and the third bro. disappeared. > >I guess no sisters ever came, just groups of 3 brothers together. > HMMMMMMMMMMM ??? Paul, how many times have you encountered that elusive "great-grandmother was a full-blooded Cherokee princess" story? Pat -- Pat Oliver [email protected]

At every single class I have taught over many years, I have to smile at the fact that so very many people gave a three brothers tale. Then too, in virtually every such tale, it is stated that one brother went West, another of the 3 owned more land than anyone "in the county", and the third bro. disappeared. I guess no sisters ever came, just groups of 3 brothers together. HMMMMMMMMMMM ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: Dee Randall To: [email protected] ; Larry A Whinery ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; loreda davis Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] [VAROOTS] FLT I enjoy so much others' accounts of 'complete loss of ....." There is another endearing quality we humans have and that is of transferring a memory into an inaccurate memory. Mine is: A family of 3 or 4 boys and their father were killed on a train track maybe 1/2 mile from my 1 room school house of 6 grades. I recall those 6 rows being quite vacant because there were only about 24 kids in 6 grades. Research years later has made it very clear that I was not even at that school that year, I had passed onto 7th grade at a completely different school. Yet, in my mind I was attending school there at that time. Dee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5107 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/2244 Message Board Post: Hi Lois.I have done some research om the Dempsey family from Bertie Co.Patience is one of them.e-mail me.I'll share what I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hall, Jobe, Cooke, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/2243 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on the Hall family that lived in Rich Square and Roxobel, N.C Jesse Hall married Bettie Jobe, Looking for this line.....there was a son, William Ernest Hall who married Mildred Hedgspeth.. Other older names may be John L, Moses, Thomas. Any help is greatly appreciated. son of William E and Mildred was a Edwin, married Sarah Daughtry, there children were William P "Bill" Hall, Bobby, Jimmy and Kathy. again thanks B.J CC Martin County, N.C

I hope someone on this list might have information on the Hooks family. If you can share anything, use Richard's address below. If you reply to the note, it will come to me, but Richard won't see it. >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:08:49 -0400 (EDT) >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Bertie County Geneology > > >My family tree goes back to Bertie County in the 1700s. Do you have any >information on Hardy Hooks or John Hooks, Sr. ? Hardy Hooks was the son >of John Hooks, Sr. and he moved to what is now Wayne County in the early >1700s. John Hooks, Sr. was the son of William Hooks from England and >emigrated to the colonies in the 1600s. The name may be spelled Hook, >Hooks, or Hookes. > >I am curious about any information available. There is a deed listed for >John Hooks dating to the 1700s. I am curious about any cemetery >information which may give me some answers. > >Richard W. Hooks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Anson, Beaufort, Bertie, Currituck, Chowan, Duplin, Edgecombe, Granville, Hyde, Johnston, Northampton, Pasquotank, Perquimans & Tyrrell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2UB.2ACI/2242 Message Board Post: Project Background: To collect DNA information for descendants of early North Carolina inhabitants which will assist in research of North Carolina families prior to 1750. Counties for which this project will focus are Anson, Beaufort, Bertie, Currituck, Chowan, Duplin, Edgecombe, Granville, Hyde, Johnston, Northampton, Pasquotank, Perquimans & Tyrrell which existed prior to 1750. Project participants must provide a pedigree chart showing an ancestor in one of these counties prior to 1750. Project Goals: The goals are to assemble in a public place a region/area grouped and sorted by Haplogroup and Haplotype as a representation of early North Carolina ancestral DNA and associated Surnames and Haplogroups for genetic genealogy purposes. The site is located at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/NorthCarolinaEarly1700s/index.aspx

Elizabeth, Among your Thomas family , is there a Rebecca Thomas? Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ELIZABETH SCHOEB Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] The Thomases Hi, I am a descendant of Michael Thomas great-granddaughter. Jeppy Thomas, Everett's brother was my grandfather. I would really like to know all about you all. I have traced our family back to the 1700's I think it is. The Harrell's for quite a distance. How do you fit in with the Harrell's? I have a good bit of info on them. Where do you live? Only the cousins are left Mike died last year My mother Helen is 89, and Daisy is 87. Both are in poor health. Daisy lives in Washington, NC and my mother Helen in Aulander, NC. Hope to hear from you. Am having computer problems and if I do not respond quickly you will know why. Elizabeth Johnson Schoeb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I am a descendant of Michael Thomas great-granddaughter. Jeppy Thomas, Everett's brother was my grandfather. I would really like to know all about you all. I have traced our family back to the 1700's I think it is. The Harrell's for quite a distance. How do you fit in with the Harrell's? I have a good bit of info on them. Where do you live? Only the cousins are left Mike died last year My mother Helen is 89, and Daisy is 87. Both are in poor health. Daisy lives in Washington, NC and my mother Helen in Aulander, NC. Hope to hear from you. Am having computer problems and if I do not respond quickly you will know why. Elizabeth Johnson Schoeb