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    1. [NCBERTIE] Rascoe's Mill Info
    2. Bob Mhoon
    3. Was wondering if anyone had a photo of the mill and if it is a site you can still visit. It belonged to my GGGF John Mhoon and was passed to his son James Geroge Mhoon. I did find it on a map, but no surrounding information. Many Thanks, Bob Mhoo. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kathryn Douglas Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NCBERTIE] Parkers of Bertie Co Can anyone help with my Parkers? Jordan Parker 1823-1887, married Jarsie Charlotte Morris 1930-1894. Looking for the ancestors of Jordan & Jarsie. Thank You ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/27/2007 12:31:41
    1. [NCBERTIE] Parkers of Bertie Co
    2. Kathryn Douglas
    3. Can anyone help with my Parkers? Jordan Parker 1823-1887, married Jarsie Charlotte Morris 1930-1894. Looking for the ancestors of Jordan & Jarsie. Thank You

    01/27/2007 08:10:41
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Paul Drake and to those who gave me Feed back on the issue of Nothampton County, Jackson City Hall. I thank you all so very much. Great help to many. Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall

    01/27/2007 02:25:08
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. In a message dated 1/27/2007 3:42:10 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: My name is Martha & it has been several years but the people in Northampton clerks office helped me find deeds & made copies for me. They also told me about the Libary & that I might find some information there. I live in Bertie & they are Glad to help you. as you, it's many a number of years since I was in N.C - all the counties I was in - Bertie, Northampton, Haifax, Pitt, Edgecombe - in fact nearly all the north eastern counties were extremely helpful all but one - I must say the attitude of the clerks at the courthouse in Craven Co. was far less hospitable and inviting. Don't let your worries get the best of you, remember, Moses started out as a basket case Ann

    01/27/2007 01:14:28
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] NCBERTIE Digest, Vol 2, Issue 15
    2. You might also ask if they'll allow you to take a digital picture of the page. Then you could upload it to your pc. Just a thought, Brenda

    01/26/2007 06:23:45
    1. [NCBERTIE] RAWLS families of NC-GA-TN
    2. Bobby Rawls
    3. Hello all, I am looking for info. on the RAWLS families of HERTFORD-BERTIE Co's, NC, Henry-Early co's GA & Dyer-Haywood co's, TN. David Rawls was the father of JEREMIAH, CATHERINE and MARY RAWLS and possibly LUCINDA, ELIZABETH, REBECCA, RAWLS MARY md. MATHIAS BAKER, LUCINDY MD. JOHN BIRD, ELIZABETH MD. DEMPSEY NOWELL, REBECCA MD. MATHIAS BAKER after her sisters death, CATHERINE MD. ELISHA H. JERNAGAN. Some of them moved to HAYWOOD CO., TENNESSEE. JOSEPH W. RAWLS had married EMILY NOWELL, Dau. of DEMPSEY NOWELL and ELIZABETH RAWLS, They lived in HAYWOOD CO., TN. REUBIN RAWLS was a son of CORNELIUS RAWLS and MARY ANN NORFLEET of NANSEMOND CO., VA. Who was related to HARDY RAWLS. Their son REUBIN Married MANERVA OLDS and moved from GREEN CO., NC. first to HAYWOOD CO., TN. IN 1833 Then a year later to DYER CO., TN. I highly suspect that JOSEPH W. RAWLS was at least related to REUBIN and MANERVA if not a son. after the death of REUBIN RAWLS His widow lived in HAYWOOD CO., TN. At the same time JOSEPH W. RAWLS lived there. CIRCUMSTANTIAL yes, BUT, a fairly strong link. WILLIAM RAWLS of SAMPSON CO., NC. 1820 census was another son of CORNELIUS RAWLS and was on a deed with REUBIN in PITT CO., NC. IN 1826 With REUBIN RAWLS a wit. the first deed dated 25 Mar 1826 states CHARLES C. JINKINS {son of CHARLES JINKINS} To WILLIAM RAWLS of GREENE CO., NC. WIT: WILLIAM CLARK The second deed April 26, 1826, WILLIAM RAWLS {SAMPSON CO.} to WILKES BROOKS and WILLIAM CLARK, Wits: H. H. FRIZZLE and REUBIN RAWLS. Any info. is truly appreciated. BOBBY RAWLS BIG SPRING, TEXAS

    01/26/2007 09:40:47
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Copying
    2. Bob Mhoon
    3. Just an FYI. I live a few miles from the National Archives Regional office in Fort Worth. The last time I visited I got to see how documents are being digitized. It turns out the the LDS family center had two people there doing the work on contract. They use high-speed, very expensive cameras, set above a table top. One individual was copying 3 X 5 Court Record cards from the 1940's and his handling speed was a blur. The system also does meta-data (OCR) capture of typed / printed information. I believe the software package was about $15K / machine. At this rate, it won't be too long before the availability of documentation opens up new information, and of course new challenges. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Copying Try the LDS Family History Center near you. They have a lots of records copied. Thanks Norris ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/26/2007 09:04:35
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] Copying
    2. Try the LDS Family History Center near you. They have a lots of records copied. Thanks Norris

    01/26/2007 06:19:37
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Faye Wallace
    3. I have never had any problems in Northampton County. I do know that the old books with the spines they don't do copies because of the damage to the spines. I was told that when I first started going there. Also I was told that the same could be found in the Archives in Raleigh. Northampton, Bertie & Hertford Counties have always been a big help to me and answer any questions I may have. faye --- Neil Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't know if it's legal or not, but I do know > Chowan County would not > allow me to photo copy a "Cowand" will in the late > 1700's. I think I > remember they said if it was loose leaf they would > allow you to copy, > but if it was permanent bound you could not. They > would allow you to > read and or write it on your personal paper. Bertie > will allow you to do > it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI > > > In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > http://www.footnote.com/index.php > > > Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. > I'd like to share a true story and need some > feedback. > Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin > Mary Jo > Parker-Perkins > went there for some records. Mary Jo found important > documents and they > would > not let her copy them. > > Northampton County is so much of the great migration > of many names that > we > are searching and this can cause road blocks as we > search our families > or work > for each other. Is this legal to stop people from > using the copy machine > for > documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? > Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html

    01/26/2007 06:13:36
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Paul Drake
    3. Hi, Neil. The reason: It is easy to break the spine/binding by flattening a book page and holding it down to gain a copy. With loose leaves, that is not a problem ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Baker To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI I don't know if it's legal or not, but I do know Chowan County would not allow me to photo copy a "Cowand" will in the late 1700's. I think I remember they said if it was loose leaf they would allow you to copy, but if it was permanent bound you could not. They would allow you to read and or write it on your personal paper. Bertie will allow you to do it. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.footnote.com/index.php Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/26/2007 02:29:38
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Martha
    3. My name is Martha & it has been several years but the people in Northampton clerks office helped me find deeds & made copies for me. They also told me about the Libary & that I might find some information there. I live in Bertie & they are Glad to help you. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:59:25 To:[email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.footnote.com/index.php Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/25/2007 07:33:18
    1. [NCBERTIE] Copying
    2. Herb Clark
    3. How about digital photo without flash?????????/ Herb Clark

    01/25/2007 03:08:21
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Paul Drake
    3. Hi, Amelia. Thanks for the compliment; my answers are my way of thanking the MANY, MANY folks who have helped me over now 50+ years. I think Herb has the best idea - a digital camera. I always carry mine, just in case I come across clerks who, as you say, seem to gain pleasure by preventing honest researchers to gain copies of their materials. Before you take the camera to the courthouse, practice with any newspaper, book or document you have in your personal collection. By doing so, you will be able to move quickly through that photography, thus avoiding still another conflict with such arrogant people. While I am sure that, as in NC, VA, SC, etc., all states have rules as to what is "public record" and supposedly open to the public, in the name of care of such records those same clerks can control how, when, and the extent to which copies may be made. So, your rights are quite without practical remedy. Thus, I suggest you put aside what the law might be as to such matters. If the states' archives, local archives, societies, or the LDS have not yet copied the records you want (you should check), then - again as Herb suggested - buy or borrow a camera, practice using it, and then call the clerk's office a few days or a week before your visit and say, "Since I know how very busy you are, I would ask on what day next week (or month or whenever) it would be convenient for me to visit your office and take some photographs of your records." Beyond these suggestions, I have no further answers for you other than to suggest that you make contact with the local gen. society, and there seek help with someone who is on good terms with and accustomed to being seen by that clerk. Good luck. Paul ....I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. ....Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall e

    01/25/2007 02:48:54
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Neil Baker
    3. I don't know if it's legal or not, but I do know Chowan County would not allow me to photo copy a "Cowand" will in the late 1700's. I think I remember they said if it was loose leaf they would allow you to copy, but if it was permanent bound you could not. They would allow you to read and or write it on your personal paper. Bertie will allow you to do it. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.footnote.com/index.php Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/25/2007 02:25:09
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Bob Mhoon
    3. Two thoughts. I'd ask if it would be ok to photograph them and use a good digital camera and tripod. Second, does NC have an Open Records / Public Information law. In Texas you could ask for specific copies and they would be provided for a fee. The only possible refusal may be for documents that are unique historic value and already damaged. The other place I'd contact is the NC state archives to see how to proceed with gaining the access locally. Perhaps those documents are already online as was my 5 GGF's will from 1794. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.footnote.com/index.php Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/25/2007 02:00:38
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. In a message dated 1/25/2007 11:39:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://www.footnote.com/index.php Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would not let her copy them. Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall

    01/25/2007 01:59:25
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] rules against copying
    2. Stephen Scurletis
    3. The bright light from a Xerox machine could cause damage to old documents. Also just the physical act of dragging something like an old deed or will book to the machine and flattening it on the glass plate could cause damage. This could be part of the rationale not to allow copying of old documents. Stephen Scurletis [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 1/25/2007 8:00:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI > > Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. > I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. > Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins > went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would > not let her copy them. > > Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we > are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work > for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for > documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? > Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall

    01/25/2007 01:29:24
    1. Re: [NCBERTIE] rules against copying
    2. Robert Edmondson
    3. Digital camera would probably be worth its weight in GEE old! W.R.E. Stephen Scurletis <[email protected]> wrote: The bright light from a Xerox machine could cause damage to old documents. Also just the physical act of dragging something like an old deed or will book to the machine and flattening it on the glass plate could cause damage. This could be part of the rationale not to allow copying of old documents. Stephen Scurletis [email protected] > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 1/25/2007 8:00:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] FYI > > Paul Drake, as usual you are so good to us. > I'd like to share a true story and need some feedback. > Northampton County, Jackson Court house. My cousin Mary Jo Parker-Perkins > went there for some records. Mary Jo found important documents and they would > not let her copy them. > > Northampton County is so much of the great migration of many names that we > are searching and this can cause road blocks as we search our families or work > for each other. Is this legal to stop people from using the copy machine for > documents that are important to Bertie County, NC? > Amelia Tynes-Floyd Hall ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.

    01/25/2007 12:43:01
    1. [NCBERTIE] FYI
    2. Paul Drake
    3. Here is a new free site that may help some of you, especially those with ancestry in the Northeast. Paul http://www.footnote.com/index.php

    01/25/2007 03:37:29
    1. [NCBERTIE] ... Death Certificates Viewable Online
    2. Bob Mhoon
    3. For those with an interest in Missouri Birth / Death record online searches. http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/ http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ NJOY, Bob Mhoon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Drake Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Fw: [DRAKE] Fwd: [ROOTS-L] More than 250,000 Utah Death Certificates Viewable Online Hi, Mary. Hope all is well with you and that you and your family are happy. Interesting that you ask, since I too asked myself that question upon reading the note. I do, however, very much suspect that Utah permits such vital statistics to be published after 50 years has passed. Since I have not read the statutes, I can not atall be sure. Still, notice that only the records through 1954 will be open to search. There is one other possibility that occurs to me; it may be that the counties are not required to forward their VS records to the State till 50 years after the events. Thanks, Dear, for jerking me out of the lethargy of winter; I will tell you what if anything learn further. Have a nice evening, and do stay in touch. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: mary perkins To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [NCBERTIE] Fw: [DRAKE] Fwd: [ROOTS-L] More than 250,000 Utah Death Certificates Viewable Online Dear Paul, What's the likelihood that FamilySearch can or will do this for the rest of the states, or will state privacy laws prevent it in the more paranoid states! Thanks, Mary Parker Perkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Drake<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected] om> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; JimM<mailto:[email protected]> ; Derrell Oakley Teat<mailto:[email protected]> ; Eve Gregory<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; marie yeager<mailto:[email protected]> ; Jackie<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: [NCBERTIE] Fw: [DRAKE] Fwd: [ROOTS-L] More than 250,000 Utah Death Certificates Viewable Online Thanks to Marie Yeager for this reference. It may be a good source for many. ----- Original Message ----- 250,000 Utah Death Certificates Viewable Online M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E More than 250,000 Utah Death Certificates now Viewable Online SALT LAKE CITY, Utah - FamilySearch(tm), in conjunction with the Genealogical Society of Utah and the Utah State Archives and Records Service, announced today that the state's free online index to death certificates is now linked to original images of the historic documents. The integration of the index with free digital pictures of the death certificates issued from 1905 to 1954 by the state will open doors to additional information for family historians and genealogists with Utah ties. To search the index and view the certificates, users need to go to http://historyresearch.utah.gov/indexes/index.html<http://historyresearchuta h.gov/indexes/index.html> < http://historyresearch.utah.gov/indexes/index.html<http://historyresearchuta h.gov/indexes/index.html>.> . The online index to 250,000+ Utah deaths was created by the State Office of Vital Records and Statistics and has searchable information limited to the name of the deceased person, his date of death, sex, and where he died. The Utah State Archives turned to FamilySearch to help them get the digital images online. FamilySearch digitized the images and provided the technology to link the images of the certificates to the state's online index. The linking process was completed incredibly fast for a project of this nature and magnitude - a few weeks. The names of Utah's deceased are now very much alive, searchable, and viewable online - and for free. "There is so much more information of family history importance that can be found on the certificate itself," said Glen Fairclough, processing and reference archivist for the Utah State Archives. Before the certificates were viewable online, Fairclough said patrons had to order copies through the mail for a fee or visit the state archives office in person. "The value of viewing the image of the original death certificate is that it saves you time, money, and provides rich genealogy data for the family historian," said Paul Nauta, manager of public affairs for FamilySearch. Captured on a death certificate are the names and birth places of the deceased person's parents, place and date of the decedent's birth, marital status, occupation, permanent residence, place and date of burial, time of death, chief cause and contributory factors of death, and if applicable, where illness was contracted and the duration of the illness. Users merely need to type in an ancestor's name who died in Utah between 1905 to 1954, and they will be directed to a brief summary of the ancestor's death certificate with a link to view the original image. Users need to simply click on the certificate image to see a larger, high quality view of the original death certificate. For more information about the FamilySearch digital image linking technology or services, record custodians should contact Brad Wilkes, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. FamilySearch is a nonprofit subsidiary of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It maintains the world's largest repository of genealogical resources with vital records from over 110 countries, territories and possessions. FamilySearch promotes family history (genealogical) preservation and access efforts through the services of FamilySearch.org, the Genealogical Society of Utah, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, and more than 4,500 family history centers in 70 countries. 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    01/24/2007 02:15:39