Dave, I have, and I suspect Ruby has too, been thru every available public record imaginable looking for any "report" of the details of the death of our ancestors. I have seen my great-grandfathers headstone, checked for church records, and dug thru the dusty originals in the Ashe Co courthouse (at least a couple of times). Searched records in Raleigh, and even tried to locate original company records for the company he worked for when he was killed. There's no coroner's or sheriff's reports in Grayson Co VA, where he was killed, and so far as I can determine no newspaper report of the accident. As you say, death records were not kept in NC until 1913. Before that, there was evidently no requirement anywhere in NC for any report of such a death. Since there was evidently no estate to administer, there was no court record of any proceedings. Some people just fall through all the cracks. Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem Dave Hamm wrote: > Hi Ruby, > > I am a little puzzled by your query as well as the response from > Charlie Weaver. I was not aware that the 1907 period was a problem. > (Cemetery records can usually be considered a valid record.) > > Without checking the exact details of the County, I believe death > certificates became law by about 1914. Prior to that, cemetery > records are often used to obtain death dates. > > Sometimes Church records are helpful if they were recorded and > still exist in some form. > > In 1907 newspaper records might be available. > > Usually, prior to death certificates, court minutes or court orders > are also helpful. If the deceased person left a will or otherwise owned > property, some notation of the death were kept in Court Orders, Court > Minutes, Will Probate, in the deeds, and occasionally in the Chancery > records. This is because the courts had to determine what happened > to the property (i.e., by will, estate sale, etc.) > > These are all separate sets of books and usually kept by the County. > > I am not sure how old these Court records have to be before a > copy (or microfilm copy) is sent off to the state archives. > > - Dave > > On 10-Dec-00, Ruby Pruitt wrote: > >Thanks for suggesting the library/Funeral Home, I have > >checked there and my GGgrandparents(William H. & Alpha > >Duvall Badger) are listed in the cemetery books, but I > >was hoping to find some records for William's > >death(D;1907). And thanks for letting me know about > >Berlin, I had been to Bina and I know where it is. > >Thanks Again Ruby > >--- Pat/Chas <patchas@triad.rr.com> wrote: > >> Yes, Ruby, there was a Berlin. During WW-I the name > >> was changed to BINA. It's about 1 mile south of Lansing, in the > >> area where Big Horse Creek empties into the N. Fork of the New > >> River. My father attended a 1-room school there in the 1920 period. > >> If you find any other records of deaths in the 1907 period, > >> please let me know. My great-grandfather was killed in a > >> logging accident then and I've never been able to find any report of his > >> death. > >> Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem > >> > >> Ruby Pruitt wrote: > >> > >> > Does anyone know how I can find a persons death record > >> > when he had died in 1907? Was there any other kind of > >> > records kept about deaths? I'm stuck on my > >> > GGgrandfathers parents(William Haines Badger)and would > >> > like to know if any other kinds of records were > >> > recorded anywhere else. I have not been able to find a > >> > bible,did Churchs keep such records there in that > >> > county? Also was there a Berlin in Ashe co.? > >> > Thanks alot Ruby > ============================================================ > Dave Hamm Novi, Michigan > > email: odon@mail.oeonline.com > URL: http://www.oeonline.com/~odon/HamCountry/HAMCountry.html > ============================================================