Paula, I've seen information in the newspaper about a German POWs in a camp near New Bern. Roger > From: bdstocks@comcast.net > To: nc-pcfr@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:55:16 -0500 > Subject: [NC-PCFR] WWI > > Paula, > > My Dad used to talk about German POWs being housed close by. I think he told > me they were at the prison in Maury in Greene Co. That was so many years ago > that he talked about that......and he passed away 22 yrs. ago. I could be > remembering "wrong". I can't answer any questions about it and this may not > be accurate because these are very old and vague memories. > > Brenda > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paula Baker" <paulabaker69@yahoo.com> > To: <nc-pcfr@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:46 PM > Subject: [NC-PCFR] WWI > > > > My father told me that Pitt County housed German prisoners of war and that > > he gave a soldier a candy bar one time. I've never seen anything in print > > about it. > > Paula Baker > > Researching Cole, Wilkerson, Norman, and White in Georgia, South Carolina, > > and Louisiana and > > Baker, Tyson, Manning, and Stocks in North Carolina > > > > > > "We are not free, separate, and independent entities, but like links in a > > chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went > > before us and showed us the way." > > > > > > Thomas Mann > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Roger E. Kammerer <kammerer@hotmail.com> > > To: PCFR PCFR <nc-pcfr@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:27:59 AM > > Subject: [NC-PCFR] Geronimo's kin sue Skull and Bones for return of his > > bones > > > > > > Geronimo's kin sue Skull and Bones; Relatives of legendary Apache want > > secret Yale group to turn over remains > > > > > > > > updated 7:23 p.m. ET, Wed., Feb. 18, 2009 > > > > HARTFORD, Connecticut - Geronimo's descendants have sued Skull and Bones — > > the secret society at Yale University linked to presidents and other > > powerful figures — claiming that its members stole the remains of the > > legendary Apache leader decades ago and have kept them ever since. > > The federal lawsuit filed in Washington on Tuesday — the 100th anniversary > > of Geronimo's death — also names the university and the federal > > government. > > Geronimo's great-grandson Harlyn Geronimo said his family believes Skull > > and Bones members took some of the remains in 1918 from a burial plot in > > Fort Sill, Okla., to keep in its New Haven clubhouse, a crypt. The alleged > > graverobbing is a longstanding legend that gained some validity in recent > > years with the discovery of a letter from a club member that described the > > theft. > > "I believe strongly from my heart that his spirit was never released," > > Harlyn Geronimo said. > > > > Bushes, Kerry are members > > Both presidents George W. Bush and his father, George H. W. Bush, > > Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and many other men in powerful government > > and industry positions are members of the society, which is not affiliated > > with the university. > > After years of famously fighting the U.S. and Mexican armies, Geronimo and > > 35 warriors surrendered to Gen. Nelson A. Miles near the Arizona-New > > Mexico border in 1886. Geronimo was eventually sent to Fort Sill and died > > at the Army outpost of pneumonia in 1909. > > According to lore, members of Skull and Bones — including former President > > George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush — dug up his grave when a > > group of Army volunteers from Yale was stationed at the fort during World > > War I, taking his skull and some of his bones. > > Harlyn Geronimo, 61, wants those remains and any held by the federal > > government turned over to the family so they can be reburied near the > > Indian leader's birthplace in southern New Mexico's Gila Wilderness. > > "I want them to understand we mean business," said Harlyn Geronimo, who > > lives in New Mexico. "We're very serious. We're tired of waiting and we're > > coming after them." > > Their lawsuit also names President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Robert > > Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants. > > Neither members of Skull and Bones, who closely guard their secrecy, nor > > the Russell Trust Association, the organization's business arm for tax > > purposes, could not be reached for comment. > > Justice Department spokesman Andrew Ames said the government will "review > > the complaint and respond in court at the appropriate time." > > Fort Sill spokeswoman Nancy Elliot declined to discuss the lawsuit, but > > said officials have always maintained there is no evidence supporting the > > descendants' claims. > > Yale officials declined to comment Wednesday, saying they had not yet seen > > the lawsuit. > > Membership into Skull and Bones marks the elite of the elite at the Ivy > > League school. Only 15 Yale seniors are asked to join each year. > > > > Fodder for conspiracy theorists > > Members swear an oath of secrecy about the group and its strange rituals, > > which include devotion to the number "322" and initiation rites such as > > confessing sexual secrets and kissing a skull. The atmosphere makes Skull > > and Bones favorite fodder for conspiracy theorists. > > Its most enduring story is the one concerning Geronimo's remains, and in > > 2005, Yale historian Marc Wortman discovered a letter written in 1918 from > > one Skull and Bones member to another that seemed to lend validity to the > > tale. > > The letter, sent to F. Trubee Davison by Winter Mead, said Geronimo's > > skull and other remains were taken from the leader's burial site, along > > with several pieces of tack for a horse. > > "The skull of the worthy Geronimo the Terrible, exhumed from its tomb at > > Fort Sill by your club and Knight Haffuer, is now safe inside the T — > > together with is well worn femurs, bit and saddle horn," Mead wrote. > > Wortman, however, has said he is skeptical the bones are actually > > Geronimo's. > > Geronimo's descendants say in their lawsuit that they want to uncover any > > information that people know, but have been keeping to themselves. > > If the bones at Yale aren't those of Geronimo, Harlyn Geronimo believes > > they belonged to one of the Apache prisoners who died at Fort Sill. He > > said they should still be returned. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Want to do more with Windows Live? 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