Janice, I received the 2nd quarterly that you sent to me 1st class mail very quickly. I was anxious to see it since it had my great grandfather's obit. (Offie Dail). Also, I received the 1st quarterly you sent just a couple days later. I'm sure this will happen to a lot of people to whom you sent duplicates. I guess we will just need to be a little more patient with the snail mail! Thanks for everything. Sorry for the inconvenience. Cheryl > ------------------------------------------------ > Get the award winning ISP, AT&T WorldNet Service > http://download.att.net/webtag ------------------------------------------------ Get the award winning ISP, AT&T WorldNet Service http://download.att.net/webtag

For those who haven't read about this. Brenda >From Fox News Web page. Restrictions Lifted on 1930 Census Data Monday, April 01, 2002 WASHINGTON - The National Archives on Monday lifted confidentiality restrictions on personal records from the 1930 census, yielding a treasure chest of genealogical information for historians and family researchers. Dozens of people took advantage of the opportunity, lining up at the archives' headquarters for a chance to see copies of handwritten 1930 census forms and read the answers their parents and grandparents gave. "It's a real high. You get into this and you just get hooked," June Hall, of Baltimore, said Monday as she scrolled through microfilm copies of census forms. After a half-hour of research, she found the record for the house she was born in -- her grandmother's home along what was then a dirt road in Potomac, Md. The release came as the privacy protection for individual 1930 census records expired, allowing public release of the files so people can view information beyond the dry statistics typically available after the once-a-decade count. The law bans release of individual census for 72 years after each census. Historians billed it as the largest release of genealogical data by the federal government. Some questions looked familiar: What is your name? What is your sex? Are you single or married? Others are a sign of the times, such as the question that asked, "Does this household have a radio set?" "It is probably the single most important record release at the federal level in the first decade of the 21st century," said Curt Witcher, of Fort Wayne, Ind., president of the National Genealogical Society. The 1930 census date of April 1 came just over five months after the October 1929 stock market crash that plunged the country into depression. One question asked whether someone had worked the previous day; another asks to give what "class of worker" you are. "It is at this pivotal point of history, poised between two tumultuous but very different decades, that enumerators of the 1930 census captured a statistical snapshot of our nation," said John Carlin, archivist of the United States. No forms were mailed. All homes were visited by a census taker, who read off a series of 32 questions and recorded responses by hand. Original 1930 forms were destroyed in the 1940s, but not before copies were saved on 2,667 rolls of microfilm. That microfilm is being made available to the public for research at the National Archives' headquarters in Washington, as well as 13 other archives offices around the country. Historians recommend that novice researchers gather as much background as possible on their relatives before visiting the archives. Name indices are incomplete for many states, so family members may have to be researched through addresses.

There was another person buried in the Moye cemetery I did not list. Mainly because we could not read it all. We started to guess the name after looking at it for a few minutes. So the next trip that way we are going to look at it again. I am going to list it as we thought it should be but don't take it as being right. Orpah Moye, Daughter of Alfred Moye & Orpah his wife b. March 20, ____ ? d. June 20, ____ ? Age 3 Mos I looked in Tyson and May Genealogy but didn't see an Orpah Moye listed. It could be I just missed it. Does anyone know if this is correct and she was a child of Alfred's that died young.

I missed part of name on stone of Hennrietta L. Moye. She was wife of J. W. Moye and W. J. Moye (William Joel Darden Moye) With my eyesight like it is if I don't read all the way across I miss the ending. Sorry.

I listed part of the cemetery last night before the storm stopped me. Here is the balance of the listing. SOURCE: Personal survey Unknown stone broken dates 4-20-____ 10-__-____ Orpah Elizabeth Moye, Daug of James W. & Hennrietta Moye b. 3-13-1852 d. 6-25-1852 Age 3 Mos 12 Days James W. Moye, son of Alfred & Orphah Moye b. 5-31-1825 d. 2-18-1856 Hennrietta L. Moye, wife of J. W. Moye b. 2-7-1831 d. 8-19-1910 Same Stone Charles Edward Moye, son of E. A. & Mary L. Moye b. __ d, 10-5-1879 Age 1 Year 10 Mos 4 Days James W. Moye, son of E. A. & Mary L. Moye b. __ d. 8-3-1874 Age 1 Year 2 Mos 27 Days William Joel Moye, son of E. A. & Mary Moye d.7-14-1867 Age 10 Mos 8 Day Edward Lee Moye, son of E. A. & Mary Moye d. 6-5-1887 Age 1 Years 5 Mos 21 Days Clifford Pendleton (hard to read not sure of name) Son of A. J. & Cora Moye b. 1-5-1890 d. 11-15-1962 Same Stone Cora E. Moye b. 6-5-1859 d. 1-30-1932 Abram J. Moye b. 5-20-1854 d. 8-23-1932 Susan Frances Moye, daug of James W. & Hennrietta Moye b. 11-3-1854 d. 8-__-1855 Age 19 Mos

I am very interested in the listing from the Alfred Moye Cemetery dated 3/31/02. Please cite your sources. Jerry

The Orpah Tyson buried in the Alfred Moye cemetery was Alfred's wife. She was the daughter of Moses & Elizabeth Joyner Tyson. Moses was born about 1755. Orpah's brothers and siters were: Sherrod, Anna, Seth, Moses, Martha, Elizabeth and Sally. The Tyson and May Genealogy has her info on Page 300. Good information on Alfred in this write-up of his activities.

No, William Gray Lang's daugter Mary Frances married Jacob F. Joyner 1) and 2nd Dr. C. E. Moore. Lula married William Edgar Mewborn. Martha At 09:26 PM 3/31/02 -0600, you wrote: >Martha, >What's this about a Fanny and a Lula? Could my Fanny Tyson have been a >Lang? My ggrandmother was Mary Lula Tyson. >Paula > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: Martha Marble <mmarble@erols.com> >Reply-To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NC-PCFR] ALFRED MOYE >Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:27:36 -0500 > >Bill, > >At 03:27 PM 3/31/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Alfred Moye is buried at Langs x-roads. > >Not sure I knew that information - never seen the cemetery but will have to >do so. Is that cemetery behind the Joel Moye House where the antiques house >is? I have a picture of the old William Gray Lang house long since gone. >The picture is so faded you can't tell who the women and children are in >the picture but Betsy scanned it a couple of years ago and it really >brought it out. It was my gg grandfather Lang and his two daughters, Fannie >and Lula (my g grandmother) and their oldest children who were infants at >the time. I could determine which one was Lula and which two were her two >children. > >I stand corrected on the Plank road - it was 264 A not 264. Maybe sometime, >you can take me on a little tour of the area. Memory has faded badly with >time. > >Thanks for the information. > >Martha > > > >The cemetery is on US 13, > >behind a house, in the southwest quadrant of Langs x-roads. It is .2 > >mile west of US 13 and US264-A (Old Plank Road) The old toll huse use > >to sit east of Langs x-raods. The old Moye house use to be .3 mile east > >of Langs x-raods on the south side of the road. I took pictures of it > >several years ago. It has since been torn down. Also east of Langs > >x-roads is the old Corinth Church. It is still standing. > > > >I was also told that a little west of the Alfred Moye cemetery on US 13 > >that there was a cemetery back in the field on the south side of the > >road but it is now gone. > > > >Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 > >Orpah (Tyson) Moye, his wife b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845 > > > > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== > >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com > >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr > >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, >and public records. > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and >public records. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Martha, What's this about a Fanny and a Lula? Could my Fanny Tyson have been a Lang? My ggrandmother was Mary Lula Tyson. Paula ----Original Message Follows---- From: Martha Marble <mmarble@erols.com> Reply-To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NC-PCFR] ALFRED MOYE Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:27:36 -0500 Bill, At 03:27 PM 3/31/02 -0500, you wrote: >Alfred Moye is buried at Langs x-roads. Not sure I knew that information - never seen the cemetery but will have to do so. Is that cemetery behind the Joel Moye House where the antiques house is? I have a picture of the old William Gray Lang house long since gone. The picture is so faded you can't tell who the women and children are in the picture but Betsy scanned it a couple of years ago and it really brought it out. It was my gg grandfather Lang and his two daughters, Fannie and Lula (my g grandmother) and their oldest children who were infants at the time. I could determine which one was Lula and which two were her two children. I stand corrected on the Plank road - it was 264 A not 264. Maybe sometime, you can take me on a little tour of the area. Memory has faded badly with time. Thanks for the information. Martha The cemetery is on US 13, >behind a house, in the southwest quadrant of Langs x-roads. It is .2 >mile west of US 13 and US264-A (Old Plank Road) The old toll huse use >to sit east of Langs x-raods. The old Moye house use to be .3 mile east >of Langs x-raods on the south side of the road. I took pictures of it >several years ago. It has since been torn down. Also east of Langs >x-roads is the old Corinth Church. It is still standing. > >I was also told that a little west of the Alfred Moye cemetery on US 13 >that there was a cemetery back in the field on the south side of the >road but it is now gone. > >Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 >Orpah (Tyson) Moye, his wife b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845 > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Bill, Who is the Orpra Tyson in Mr. Jackson's cemetery list? I believe she's buried in Reedy Branch, maybe near my Tysons. Paula ----Original Message Follows---- From: Bill Kittrell <wbk99@earthlink.net> Reply-To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com To: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NC-PCFR] ALFRED MOYE Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 15:27:01 -0500 Alfred Moye is buried at Langs x-roads. The cemetery is on US 13, behind a house, in the southwest quadrant of Langs x-roads. It is .2 mile west of US 13 and US264-A (Old Plank Road) The old toll huse use to sit east of Langs x-raods. The old Moye house use to be .3 mile east of Langs x-raods on the south side of the road. I took pictures of it several years ago. It has since been torn down. Also east of Langs x-roads is the old Corinth Church. It is still standing. I was also told that a little west of the Alfred Moye cemetery on US 13 that there was a cemetery back in the field on the south side of the road but it is now gone. Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 Orpah (Tyson) Moye, his wife b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845 ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Elbert A. Moye b. 5-11-1842 d. 3-20-1914 Mary L. Moye, Wife of E. A. Moye, Daug. of N. D. & Mary Edwards b. 9-3-1844 d. 9-5-1894 Claddisha S. Nettle (hard to read name) Daug. of Joel & Sarah Moye b. 4-6-1791 d. 10-27-1854 Age 63 Years 6 Mos 21 Days Orpah Moye, Wife of Alfred Moye b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845 Age 42 Years 5 Mos 2 Days Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 William J. Moye, Son of Alfred & Orpah Moye b. 11-30-1822 d. 10-30-1880 Age 57 Years 11 Mos Jamesw A. Moye, Son of M. L. & Estell Moye b. 1-24-1896 d. 7-24-1899 Unknown Stone (unable to read)

The Alfred Moye cemetery is on US 13. As you travel from Greenville (headed west) on US 264 Alternate, you onto US 13. You pass the Langs cemetery to your left, cross the road leading to Willow Green south of Langs Crossraods. Go about 100 yards to a house on the right. The Moye cemetery is behind that house. This would be before you get to the antique shop (two story house). It was in the field back of the antique shop that another cemetery was to exist. It is gone today. Langs Crossroads was first known as Moyes Crossroads. Alfred Moye was the son of Joel Moye. Elbert A. Moye b. 1844 is buried in the Alfred Moye cemetery. There are several others buried here. I was told by a person who surveys land and lives in the area that .3 miles east of Langs Crossroad and on the south side of the field there use to be a Roberson (Robinson) cemetery but it is gone today. This was where the old Moye house was located as well as the toll house.

Thanks alot for the information. Betty Reason Edgecombe Genealogical Society Their seed shall remain forever and their glory shall not be blotted out. Their bodies may be buried in peace, but their names liveth forevermore.

Thanks again Martha, that is a big help. Betty Reason Edgecombe Genealogical Society Their seed shall remain forever and their glory shall not be blotted out. Their bodies may be buried in peace, but their names liveth forevermore.

Bill, At 03:27 PM 3/31/02 -0500, you wrote: >Alfred Moye is buried at Langs x-roads. Not sure I knew that information - never seen the cemetery but will have to do so. Is that cemetery behind the Joel Moye House where the antiques house is? I have a picture of the old William Gray Lang house long since gone. The picture is so faded you can't tell who the women and children are in the picture but Betsy scanned it a couple of years ago and it really brought it out. It was my gg grandfather Lang and his two daughters, Fannie and Lula (my g grandmother) and their oldest children who were infants at the time. I could determine which one was Lula and which two were her two children. I stand corrected on the Plank road - it was 264 A not 264. Maybe sometime, you can take me on a little tour of the area. Memory has faded badly with time. Thanks for the information. Martha The cemetery is on US 13, >behind a house, in the southwest quadrant of Langs x-roads. It is .2 >mile west of US 13 and US264-A (Old Plank Road) The old toll huse use >to sit east of Langs x-raods. The old Moye house use to be .3 mile east >of Langs x-raods on the south side of the road. I took pictures of it >several years ago. It has since been torn down. Also east of Langs >x-roads is the old Corinth Church. It is still standing. > >I was also told that a little west of the Alfred Moye cemetery on US 13 >that there was a cemetery back in the field on the south side of the >road but it is now gone. > >Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 >Orpah (Tyson) Moye, his wife b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845 > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Alfred Moye is buried at Langs x-roads. The cemetery is on US 13, behind a house, in the southwest quadrant of Langs x-roads. It is .2 mile west of US 13 and US264-A (Old Plank Road) The old toll huse use to sit east of Langs x-raods. The old Moye house use to be .3 mile east of Langs x-raods on the south side of the road. I took pictures of it several years ago. It has since been torn down. Also east of Langs x-roads is the old Corinth Church. It is still standing. I was also told that a little west of the Alfred Moye cemetery on US 13 that there was a cemetery back in the field on the south side of the road but it is now gone. Alfred Moye b. 1-19-1797 d. 2-26-1862 Orpah (Tyson) Moye, his wife b. 9-24-1902 d. 2-26-1845

Just north of the Pitt/Greene line and Middle Swamp - where Hwy 13, 264 A and 264 come together. The old Lang cemetery is on Hwy 13 just south of the Crossroads. The property in my notes is on Hwy 264 on both sides of the hwy. THe old Baker cemetery as I recall was on the NS of the road going to Marlboro. Stopped by the cemetery after this years reunion but it has been years since I went by the property and memory is fuzzy. I believe old 264 was what they called the Plank Road but Roger or Alice might correct me. I went to see Ms. Jesse Moye in Greenville years ago before she died and she got me told real quick that Lang's Crossroads was really Moye's Crossroads and all that land was originally owned by the Moye family. THe Lang's were johnny come lately. THe Langs were in NC by the time the Moyes were but not in Pitt Co. Martha At 09:46 PM 3/30/02 EST, you wrote: >Thank you very much Martha for the information, now can you tell me exactly >where Lang's Crossroads is located. I have located Middle Swamp on some old >maps and know the general area. > >Betty Reason >Edgecombe Genealogical Society > >Their seed shall remain forever and their glory shall not be blotted out. >Their bodies may be buried in peace, but their names liveth forevermore. > > >==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== >Post to this mail list at: NC-PCFR-L@rootsweb.com >Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr >Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you very much Martha for the information, now can you tell me exactly where Lang's Crossroads is located. I have located Middle Swamp on some old maps and know the general area. Betty Reason Edgecombe Genealogical Society Their seed shall remain forever and their glory shall not be blotted out. Their bodies may be buried in peace, but their names liveth forevermore.

Didn't realize I had typed these up for someone else on the list some time back. These are notes from original deeds in my possession and I believe they cover some of the Bakers mentioned. Some of these deeds are repeats of the ones that Betty mentioned and some are later. Half of this land is still in the possession of my family but the other half was sold a couple of years ago. It is not far from Langs Crossroads. THere was an old Baker Cemetery on the property with no stones. Unfortunately the cemetery is no longer in existence. Martha BAKER - PITT Co 1. J. H. Sugg and wife Mittie E. Sugg to Archibald Flanagan - 4 Oct 1880 - adj B. A. Baker, James Joyner ?? and others being the lands drawn by H. S. Baker in the division of the lands of his father William Baker - 43 acres 2. 28 June 1881 James T. or F. Joyner and wife Arcena Joyner delivered a note to Eli Williams - Williams incapable of transacting business, Mrs. Lydia Williams was appointed his guardian. R. L. Joyner appointed Trustee. Note was assigned to Noah W. Tyson by Lydia Williams. James and Arcena Joyner did not pay the note. Land to be sold to highest bidder. W. G. Lang was high bidder. Land adj to Richard Bearman dec, Thomas Phillips, Henry S. Baker, Ben Asa Baker - 53 acres - being the part assigned to Arcena Joyner from the estate of her father William J. Baker, dec 3. notes from an original deed - Jesse J. Baker to Ben Asa Baker - beginning at corner of Emanuel Turnage, dec and said Jesse Baker, dec in Jacob Moore, dec, line, adj Wm Baker, Falnagan -64 acres - being part of tract willed by Jesse Baker to his two sons Jesse A. and Ben Asa Baker - on ES of tract - no date noted 4. notes from an original deed - 15 July 1843 - Jesse J. Baker to Ben Asa Baker - WS of Little Contentnea and ES Middle Swamp - dividing line between Emanuel Turnage dec a - this appears to be the same deed as # 3 but has the date 5. notes from deed of Jesse Baker to Wm. J. Baker - 4 Dec 1860 - SS Little Contentnea adj Elizabeth Dupree, Wm. J. Baker 6. notes from a deed John B. Baker to Wm . J. Baker - 23 Aug 1828 - WS Little Contentnea - adj Sherrod Tison, Seth Tyson 7. notes from a deed John B. Baker to Wm. J. Baker - 10 Sept 1842 - WS Little Contentnea - adj Wm Baker, Jesse Baker, James Flannkin 8. Aaron Joyner to Wm Joyner - S.L. Cont. Creek - 23 Jan 1844 - SS of Little Contentnea - adj Seth Tison, Belcher, Alfred Moye, John Joiner - belong to the heirs of Seth Tison - 50 ½ acres 9. page with notes - following instruments noted in a line - I assume this tracks a piece of land - State of NC Grant to Jas. Baker; Miles Parker deed to Jesse Baker - 1811; William Cauley and wife deed to Asa Baker - 1811; Jesse Baker to Sparkman Smith - 1813; Miles Parker to Jesse Baker - this has more information - 200 acres, WS Little Cont Creek - adj John Biggs, saml Alborson, John White 10. Land platt - names - Gum branch on NS, Martha J. Starkey, H. J. Baker, Emily E. Nichols, Arcena Joyner, Henry Sr. Baker, - 29 Jan 1877 11.This appears to go with #9 - Notes - State of NC to James Baker - 21 Feb 1799 - 13 acres - Grant - WS Little Contentnea - adj John Jones: Jesse Baker to Wm Baker - 15 Sept 1826 - adj Bunyon Baker, Sherrod Tison - 12 ¾ acres: Jos Lane and wife - 1816 - Middle Swamp - no additional information: John B. Baker to Gideon Allen - 13 Feb 1835 - Beaver Dam Swamp - adj John Wiloughby Jun - another tract on NS Beaver Dam Swamp the 3rd corner of the division of lands of Abraham Tyson dec among his heirs, Polly Tison corner 11. My grandfather bought out his mother's farm and the interest of her other heirs about 1928. In that series of deeds - the property was referred to as the Ben Asa Baker tract containing 70 acres, W. J. Baker tract of 165 acres, James T or J Joyner tract of 53 acres 12. In a deed dated 1910 between Mary E. Lang, the widow of William Gray Lang, and my great grandfather - the property was referred to as the W. J. Baker tract which I (William Gray Lang) purchased of J. H. Flanekin of 165 acres - 13. Deed dated 26 Jan 1877 - Arcena Joyner, Emily Nichols, Allen Baker, Martha Starkey, Henry Baker to Thomas Phillips and Mary Phillips his wife - establish lines in all their property 14. Superior Court - petition of J. J. Baker adm of Ben Asa Baker - to sell land to pay debts - land sold 23 Dec 1884 to Alice Carr - land on SS ot Tar river belonging to estate of Ben Asa Baker adj Archibald Flanagan, J. T. Joyner - 60 acres 15. notes on deed from Wm. May to Thos Phillips - 31 Jan 1850 - adj John Joynerm Wm J. Baker Stephen Smith - 80 acres 16. notes on deed from John T. Phillips to Mrs. Emma E. Easton - middle of plank road, A. Flanagan, Jas Flanagan, Moore, G. Allen. Willed to John Phillips by his father Thomas Phillips and conveyed to said Thomas by Wm. May

This information was on another mail list. I thought it was interesting...I never really checked the enumeration date against birthdates. Brenda Subject: Something surprising about the census This information came from a genealogy mailing list. How many of us have failed to read the instructions for searching the census? I know I've been guilty of just assuming what I see was the truth, and subsequently, may have dismissed some census, especially those in the time period previous to 1850, as not being the correct line, because it didn't fit my preconceived notions of the number of people in that family. Of course, people being people, these instructions may not have been totally followed by every census taker, but it does help to know about this surprising instruction. Here are some details about the mechanics of taking a census that most of us probably haven't paid much attention to. Beginning with the 1790 (first) federal census and continuing with every census thereafter, each enabling law authorized by Congress specified a census day for gathering the census information from every household in America. From 1790 to 1820, the census day was the first Monday in August. The census day was NOT the day the enumerator arrived at a household, it was the day for which all the statistics of the census were collected. The actual instructions given to all the U.S. Marshals right before the 1820 census explains: "....all the questions refer to the day when the enumeration is to commence; the first Monday in August next. Your assistants will thereby understand that they are to insert in their returns all the persons belonging to the family on the first Monday in August, even those who may be deceased at the time when they take the account; and, on the other hand, that they will not include in it, infants born after that day." Similar instructions have been given for every census since 1790, but with different census days. Census day for each census, 1790-1920, and the time allowed to take the census: 1790 2 August 9 months 1800 4 August 9 months 1810 6 August 10 months 1820 7 August 13 months 1830 1 June 12 months 1840 1 June 18 months 1850 1 June 5 months 1860 1 June 5 months 1870 1 June 5 months 1880 1 June 1 month 1890 1 June 1 month 1900 1 June 1 month 1910 15 April 1 month 1920 1 January 1 month Genealogists should record two dates when copying information from the censuses: the census day and the enumeration date. No matter how many months it took for an enumerator to reach a house, he was supposed to gather the information as if time had stopped on the census day. Every person whose regular abode was in a particular household on the census day was to be enumerated, even if a person were away at the time of the enumeration. Understanding the impact of the census day versus the enumeration date may explain why certain people appear in a census listing, even though you have other evidence to show the person died before the household was enumerated. If a person were alive on the census day, that person was to be included - even if it took some time for the enumerator to get around to the house to take the census. The person could have been dead for several months. Or, you may wonder why that youngest child in a family was not listed in a census. If a child were born after the census day, that child was not to be included - even if the census taker had visited the house and was aware of a playful little toddler crawling around in front of him. For example, on the 1880 Census the information was to be as of 1 June 1880. Births before 1 June would be counted; those coming after 1 June would not be counted. People dying before 1 June would not be enumerated but those dying after 1 June would be enumerated. That means if someone died June 2 but the census was not enumerated until 15 September, the person would be enumerated as though he were living.