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    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] President running for CalvinJames Langley,[email protected]
    2. Brenda Stocks
    3. From our Welcome letter for this list: "Please do not submit virus alerts, chain letters, or other off-topic material to the list. Vulgarity and personal attacks on other list members are unwelcome. This mail list is sponsored by Pitt County Family Researchers for anyone with genealogical interest in Pitt County, NC, and surrounding counties. It is for the exchange of family information and resources, as well as news and activities of PCFR." The message below is clearly off topic and I would appreciate it if no one responds to it on the mail list. Political discussions and debates regarding current times will not be tolerated on this list. Thanks for your cooperation. Brenda Stocks PCFR List Administrator Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [NC-PCFR] President running for CalvinJames Langley,[email protected] > Dear People of America are you tired of the fighting between the Democrats > and republican,s then it,s time for a real person to step up and be your > PRESIDENT ofr you in America . > So top you gossip and send in you name to Elect Calvin James Langley as > your president > WE THE PEOPLE PARTY,Let all be as one,ans oneas all. > Plesa send around for others to sughn for the need of your Vote to put > America and the people first and not the party. > > > ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== > Post to this mail list at: [email protected] > Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr > Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, > and public records. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

    11/29/2005 03:57:25
    1. Suggs Infor
    2. Heather Anderson
    3. I am looking for information on the following. If anyone could help I would be appreciative.. Benjamin Suggs Born in 1807 in Fair Bluff Columbus NC his wife is Mary A don't know much more then that besides two kids Prudence and son George W. -- Heather L. Anderson When you get confused listen to the music play

    11/27/2005 10:19:11
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] Learn About DNA ...
    2. Bob, Perhaps I was misunderstood, but my main concern with companies having your DNA is the fact that they can exploit your DNA information by SELLING it in a package of your Family information. As far as I'm concerned, that DNA information belongs to YOU and YOU only! Especially since YOU paid for it. That have NO right to use it as THEIR information! Laymond

    11/24/2005 05:56:45
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] Learn About DNA ...
    2. Bob Forbes
    3. I'll add a couple more things to what Laymond Elks said about this interesting topic a few weeks back, and how it has recently affected the research of my paternal Forbes lineage. First, the link Laymond provided to Jim Hankins's website with his explanations and caveats about DNA testing are excellent. His remarks provide an objective view of the pros & cons including what you can learn from having your yDNA or MtDNA tested, and what you cannot learn from the current state of that science. For those who are interested and didn't catch that link the first time Laymond sent it, I've copied it again here: http://www.cottagehill.com/familytree/. His info on DNA is found at the "DNA" sublink near the top of his web page. I had my yDNA typed about three years ago by FamilyTreeDNA as part of a research project being conducted by Dr. Elizabeth Hirschman at Rutgers. "Forbes" is an old Scottish line with a well documented history, and Dr. Hirschman is trying to connect some of the Scottish Clans with their Old World roots, which she believes are at least partly Jewish, mostly through Sephardic lines, but that's another story for another time. FamilyTreeDNA: http://www.familytreedna.com/ is (as far as I can tell), the largest and most widely-respected of American-based DNA typing and research companies. They keep an extensive database that is growing all the time, and they sponsor numerous projects, most of them researching particular surnames or geographic origins. A couple of years ago one of my Forbes cousins stepped forward to lead a Forbes Clan yDNA project, which is documented on the following website: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/forbes/. The project is still small with some 20+ members currently, but slowly growing (one Forbes at a time, as the saying goes). As was predicted, it took awhile for real genetic connections to be made and related subgroups of genetic cousins to form, but several distinct kinship subgroups are beginning to emerge. By gentle persuasion we even piqued the interest of the current Master of Forbes (who still looks after the ancestral Forbes lands in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, and is the keeper of the Clan lineage back to 1200 AD or so) to join the project. As a result, we've found that about 20% of the yDNA males in the project so far show a kinship linkage to that ancient "Lord Forbes" line, including my own. Where it gets really interesting and useful is with the statistics that result from comparing 37 markers of yDNA among related males. Because several of those yDNA markers mutate with predictable regularity through successive generations, it's possible to estimate with some statistical accuracy how far back a Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) between two males would have lived. FamilyTree DNA will automatically produce those statistics among related males with what they call an FTDNATip Report and email it to you in .pdf format. While this listserv doesn't allow attachments, if you email me a request for an example FTDNATip Report, I'll attach it to an email response. Already I've found two genetic Forbes cousins I didn't know I had, and both of them trace their paternal Forbes roots to eastern NC. Although we haven't established our kinship connections yet, we are only a couple of generations from doing that and we have some strong clues, based on given names, that will likely lead to answers by doing more diligent "classical research," as Jim Hankins puts it. Since I now have better clues that will lead my paper research in certain directions, I've been pretty pleased with what DNA science has done for genealogy research so far, and I look forward to more developments. I'll close with a personal opinion, or question I guess, which is that I'm not sure what the concern is about identity theft or something similar as it relates to the 'junk DNA' that is used to indicate genetic relatives. Like fingerprinting, DNA-typing can be a useful way to help determine a preson's identity, but what is at risk for being stolen and how would it be used? I'm a lot more concerned about the prospects for someone lifting my credit card nos., or SSN, or even some of my computer passwords, than I am about my DNA! I don't know what the concern is other than fear of the unknown, similar to the fear that some of our mid-19th century ancestors had about their pictures being taken soon after photography was invented. Perhaps I'm being naive about it, but if there are legitimate concerns about DNA typing, I'd like to hear about them. Hope all my Pitt County cousins have (or had) a happy and bounteous Thanksgiving, Bob Forbes [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:25 PM Subject: [NC-PCFR] Learn About DNA ... > To All: > > If you're interested in learning about DNA, please to go the Web Site > listed below and click on DNA. Jim Hankins explains it pretty good on his > Site. > While you're there, browse around on his Site. It's an excellent Web > Site. > (He and I are distantly related by marriage...) > > _http://www.cottagehill.com/familytree/_ > (http://www.cottagehill.com/familytree/) > > When you are considering DNA testing, be careful. It can be rather > expensive and, you need to be careful as to what they do with your DNA > information. You need to know what database your information is going > into and what they > are planning to do with "YOUR" information. > > Be sure you're dealing with a reputable company. Check them out before > you send them anything. Usually, the BBB or Chamber of Commerce is a good > place to start for check them out... > > Laymond Elks > Researching: Elks, Arnold, Angel & Godley >

    11/24/2005 01:07:43
    1. November Quarterly
    2. Brenda Stocks
    3. Roger Kammerer told me tonight that our November Pitt County Genealogical Quarterly was mailed this week. Remember that it sometimes takes as long as three to four weeks to reach some subscribers. With two holidays coming up delivery may certainly be slow. I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving with as many of your loved ones, friends and family, as possible! Since my son in law (airline pilot) has to fly on Thankgiving day, we are having our Thanksgiving feast on Friday. I will miss all my Pitt County friends and family tomorrow , as I always do especially on holidays. Brenda

    11/23/2005 05:44:46
    1. Re: {not a subscriber} Family history information
    2. Brenda Stocks
    3. Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:53 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Family history information > Hello. I just wanted to inform people that I have added many many names > and > information to my family history on my family history website at > www.allthroughtheages.com. TAKE NOTE that not all of the information is > complete and that this is an ongoing task as with all research. Please > let > me know of inaccuracies and understand that I am human and will and > probably > have made mistakes. So please don't get mad at me for an error. This is > just to help folks in their own research and maybe to connect to some > relatives. > Some of the surnames listed (this is not all of them): > Mick > Paul > Rader > Linscott > Bragg > Freeman > Quinn > Coy > Garrison > Barnhill > Courson (and various spellings) > Lyman > Kidd > Sharp > Sides > Foster > Carlock > Laughinghouse > Brown > and many many more. > > There may be some broken links and if you would be so kind as to send me a > note I would appreciate it. > I hope this helps some and would love to incorporate any information that > you are willing to share with me. > > Thank you, > > Carrol (Paul) Mick > [email protected] > [email protected] > www.allthroughtheages.com > www.cpgoofy16.etsy.com > www.unloaderrocks.com > >

    11/20/2005 01:19:39
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] Article from deseretnews.com
    2. Here is the Story in its entirety from the Web Site below... http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C635160683%2C00.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Fake family trees online may trip up genealogists By Lee Davidson Deseret Morning News Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of extensive, but fake, family trees. Critics say the approach appears to be part of a new money-making scheme to lure people who search for family names on Google, Yahoo or other search engines to Web sites that use bogus data to help ensure they appear high on "hit lists." They then make money if visitors click on advertisers' links. They worry that novices might download false information that is designed to look real, and then corrupt others' family trees if they share that bad data online or through family history databases such as those offered by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or the commercial Utah-based Ancestry.com However, Don Harrold, co-creator of a program called "Fake Family," which he sells for $75, says data it produces has "absolutely zero chance" of matching any real person or family. He says he has offered the program to fewer than 30 self-described Internet advertisers, so its use is not widespread, and he has not made money on it. Why make it then? "Why not? I enjoy trying to find ways to create computer simulations of organic life," Harrold told the Deseret Morning News. But online chat groups of both genealogists and Internet advertisers are buzzing about what the new program could do to genealogical research, and why Harrold is marketing it, even if, as he says, to a small group. Dan Eastman, author of Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter, wrote this past week that he believes Harrold "wants to flood the Internet with bogus genealogy material, all for the purpose of making easy money." Online information that Harrold wrote says his product can "create thousands of pages of unique . . . content with almost no effort. Neither humans nor search engines will be able to tell whether the content is 'real' or 'generated.' " How could that make money? Josh Anderson, an Internet advertiser from Idaho, who also is a genealogist concerned about the product, explains Web hosts can program their sites to display "sponsored links." Advertisers pay search engines to have these appear on screen whenever certain key words such as "genealogy" are part of a search. When such links are clicked by a visitor, the Web site host and search engine company split revenue from an advertiser. (Of course, Web sites can also offer other forms of advertising.) "It can be a very profitable source of income. Some people make millions of dollars a year doing it," Anderson said. "The whole purpose (of Fake Family-style sites) is to trick the search engine, so they get a top listing for some search words" to attract more visitors and potentially more revenue-producing mouse clicks. Search engine companies say they hunt for and remove from listings any sites that are bogus or that scrape content from other sites merely to act as a vehicle to carry advertiser links. But Fake Family boasts in written information that it can fool search engines. It does not merely produce lists of random names, but links them generation-to-generation with bogus birth, marriage and death dates and places. It adds that its randomly generated names "are era-specific," meaning you will get more names such as Orville and Bertha in the 1880s than the 1980s. Infant mortality, marriage rates and migration data is also encoded, and more. It's the rich family "experience" that Fake Family provides that is significant and makes the output stunning in its ability to look real to humans. Internet advertisers helped the Deseret Morning News identify a few genealogy sites that appeared to contain only bogus information, along with plenty of advertiser links. Harrold, however, said he only knows of one generated by Fake Family (even though he said in written information that he has "monetized" several family history sites). "This is scary to me," said Mindy Koch, an Internet advertiser from North Carolina and an avid genealogist. "There is a great chance that a novice could think this is real. If they download it, and then later upload it into repositories like (the LDS Church's) Ancestral File, those databases would include lots of people who never existed." Also, she added that it potentially could make search engines more difficult to use for genealogy if bogus sites slow them or account for all the "top hits." Harrold says such threats are imagined and not real. He said the chances of randomly selected first and last names, coupled with randomly selected places and dates, being shown as married to the same persons as people who actually lived "are not just slim, they are nonexistent." He said if someone still mistook such information as real and downloaded it, "that's their fault." He adds, "If you want real family information, why are you not looking at Census records? If you're not paying for it, and I didn't ask you to take it, and the name and date don't match your family tree, why are you taking this information? Any onus is on the people who take this information." Some in genealogy chat groups, however, complained that a name that looks even roughly plausible could be mistaken as real by a novice, or cause even a genealogy expert to spend a lot of time and money to eliminate the possibility it is the person for whom they are seeking. "Boo hoo," Harrold told the Morning News in response to such complaints. He said "the real story" is how Google and other search engines do not verify content they seek and guide others to for profit. He said databases by the LDS Church and Ancestry.com also contain some incorrect information submitted by patrons. His obviously false data creates less threat to genealogy research than they do, he said. Harrold suggested in chat groups that he might sue people who referred to his work as a "scam." He also warned the Morning News to be careful what it said about him. In turn, makers of the Legacy Family Tree software threatened to sue Harrold if he did not remove from his Web site instructions about how to download free software from them that could assist the Fake Family program. Meanwhile, Mary Kay Evans, spokeswoman for Ancestry.com, a Utah company that, as part of its service, offers a large database of names, said, "It is so unfortunate that there are predators on the Web who target people interested in their genealogy. Genealogy is such a popular hobby that predators are moving to take advantage of that." Evans, as well as many genealogists and even Harrold himself, urges genealogists to verify carefully all sources of information in genealogy, especially any obtained online from people they do not know. "That is a primary role of Ancestry.com, to help people see source records," Evans said. Anderson, who operates a small family Web site, also encourages genealogists to actually talk to people operating such sites and ask for all source information.

    11/15/2005 05:31:31
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] Article from deseretnews.com
    2. Dani
    3. Sorry I tried and tried to get that story, and I could not bring the link up. Could you please send the page or story that its on? Thanks, Dani ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: [NC-PCFR] Article from deseretnews.com > > From: "Laura Hanley Davis" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:32 PM > Subject: Fw: Article from deseretnews.com > > > As we know..... Please be careful with online compiled genealogical > resources. > > Subject: Article from deseretnews.com > > Laura thought you might be interested in reading the > following story, which appeared on deseretnews.com on Saturday, November > 12, 2005.. > > FAKE FAMILY TREES ONLINE MAY TRIP UP GENEALOGISTS > Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to > Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of > extensive, but fake, family trees. > FULL STORY: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C635160683%2C00.html > > > > > > ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== > Post to this mail list at: [email protected] > Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr > Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, > and public records. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

    11/15/2005 03:59:23
    1. Article from deseretnews.com
    2. From: "Laura Hanley Davis" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Fw: Article from deseretnews.com As we know..... Please be careful with online compiled genealogical resources. Subject: Article from deseretnews.com Laura thought you might be interested in reading the following story, which appeared on deseretnews.com on Saturday, November 12, 2005.. FAKE FAMILY TREES ONLINE MAY TRIP UP GENEALOGISTS Genealogists beware. A software company is marketing a new program to Internet advertisers that could quickly generate Web sites full of extensive, but fake, family trees. FULL STORY: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C635160683%2C00.html

    11/15/2005 03:36:51
    1. Rebecca Crisp
    2. 1850 Cen Pitt Co NC: Rebecca Crisp 60 b 1790 in James Edmundson household. 1850 Greene Co NC: Ezekel Crisp 38, wife Louisa 40, Rebecca E 1, other children. 1850 Cen in TN: Tilman Crisp 38 and wife Rebecca 36 born in NC. These are the only ones I find in 1850 NC Census. One World Tree: William Crisp b 1753 d 1784, Elizabeth Ramsey 1758/1808 wife; Jesse son & Rebecca daughter, other children. 1860 Greene Co NC: Ezekel Crisp 47, Rebecca E 12 daughter, and other members. 1860 Cen in TN: T Crisp and wife Rececca 47 b in NC. 1880 Cen Lenoir NC: Rebecca Crisp 21 b 1858/1859. She is shows the same location up to 1930. I will keep looking and if any of you have suggestions they are welcomed. Linda

    11/15/2005 05:14:47
    1. Re: [genpcncfir] James Silas Jim Buck Owens
    2. This is on Family Search.com: Cagen Crisp 28 and wife Rebecca 21 Cen. of 1880 Lenoir NC. Kinchen Owens b 1824 married Rebecca Crisp b 1821 in 1843; children William b 1846; Thomas 1847; Dempsey Freeman 1850. Jesse Bailey 28, wife Rebecca Crisp b 21 Oct 1848 d 21 Jan 1921, son John H b 1875 in Greene Co. May be this could be how the Rebecca's got confusing. Here is even more. Rebecca Crisp married Bia Harriss 21 Apr 1834 in Edgecombe County NC. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:21:18 EST Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] James Silas Jim Buck Owens In a message dated 11/15/2005 6:42:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: From: Evelyn Hendricks <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:27:30 -0500 > Subject: Re: [genpcncfir] James Silas Jim Buck Owens > > > I have Rebecca Crisp, born 1841, married to Jesse Bailey. Their son, Jesse > Bailey, said that Rebecca Crisp was his mother. Rebecca died in 1921 in > Greene Co. Were two women named Rebecca Crisp? > I have other sources that say Rebecca Crisp married Jesse Bailey, but have > not taken the time to look them up right now. Jesse was the son of Joseph > and Ava Bailey of Greene Co. > Evelyn There could have been a second Rebecca Crisp. In the 1850 Census that I used for Kinchen Owens and wife, Rebecca, he was born about 1825 and she was born about 1822. Your Rebecca Crisp, born 1841, would have been only 9 years old in 1850. Faye [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <FONT COLOR="#000099">Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page </FONT><A HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ymOolB/TM"><B>Click Here!</B></A> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Pitt County Historical Society: http://www.pittcountyhistoricalsociety.com/ CHRONICLES VOL.II AVAILABLE!! Click here for description and ordering information: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/files/ Click here to view CHRONICLE PHOTO, use SlideShow: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/lst RePrint of 1982 Chronicles of Pitt Co Order Form: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/pitt/Chronicles%20Flyer%20Feb03.htm Treasure-Trove of PITT Co.NC Genealogical Resources: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/pitt/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr/ We welcome all Archives visitors and invite you to join our dynamic group if you are interested in genealogy discussion and research in Pitt and all Eastern and Coastal North Carolina counties. GenealogyPITT Co NC Friends In Research http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

    11/15/2005 04:03:09
    1. Haddocks of Edgcomb County
    2. Rena Peterson
    3. I think it was this site that I saw Haddocks and Owens in Edgcomb County. If anyone has more of the Haddock information in this County would you share? It's just that William O. Haddock had the best of me until I saw the surname Owen.........gives me a little hope. Rena

    11/15/2005 02:19:53
    1. Owens
    2. I was in the Queen Anne Cem. in Fountain NC checking out some of the graves. I found that the Monument of Abram C and Ethel K Owens has fallen over. It is in need of some repair. The reason for posting is in hopes that some of their family will see this email. I felt they did not know about this problem. Linda

    11/14/2005 05:40:36
    1. Pattie Worthington
    2. jowgen
    3. I came across a posting by Roger Kammerer which gave a Pattie Worthington who md Willie Tyson b March 31, 1879. Who were Pattie's parents? Jean W [email protected]

    11/14/2005 02:18:58
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] Re: [NC- minutes of meeting
    2. Linda, Those Notes came from a Baptist Website that now has a broken link. I'm not sure who took over the info. Sorry, Lisa

    11/10/2005 01:49:29
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] CLEMMY SMITH
    2. Bill Kittrell
    3. Thanks Trish. You can see errors are made sometimes and when you have the info to correct it please do so. That is why I print out family info to give to families to check, correct and add to it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trish Worthington Cobb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [NC-PCFR] CLEMMY SMITH > Bill, > A correction to one of the notes from Allen Churchill's book: > >>> SOURCE: Pitt Brides by Allen Churchill >>> Clemmie L. Smith, d/o John A. Smith m. April 19, 1893 Samuel G. >>> Wetherington > > Clemmie is actually Cammie. > > She was Lydia Campbell "Cammie" Smith, b. 30 Jun 1863, d. 21 Jun 1942, > dau. of John Allen Smith and Elizabeth "Lovie" Clark. > She married Samuel Glasgow "S. G." Worthington, b. 20 Dec 1865, d. 12 Oct > 1953. > > > ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== > Post to this mail list at: [email protected] > Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr > Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, > and public records. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

    11/10/2005 12:28:25
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] CLEMMY SMITH
    2. Trish Worthington Cobb
    3. Bill, A correction to one of the notes from Allen Churchill's book: >> SOURCE: Pitt Brides by Allen Churchill >> Clemmie L. Smith, d/o John A. Smith m. April 19, 1893 Samuel G. >> Wetherington Clemmie is actually Cammie. She was Lydia Campbell "Cammie" Smith, b. 30 Jun 1863, d. 21 Jun 1942, dau. of John Allen Smith and Elizabeth "Lovie" Clark. She married Samuel Glasgow "S. G." Worthington, b. 20 Dec 1865, d. 12 Oct 1953.

    11/09/2005 05:10:26
    1. CLEMMY SMITH
    2. Bill Kittrell
    3. SOURCE: Pitt Brides by Allen Churchill Clemmy Smith, d/o Joshua Smith m. Jan 2, 1872 Jno B. Williams Pitt Deed Book A-7 page 281 Feb 20, 1901 Jno B. Williams and Clemmie Williams to J. A. Williams 75 Acres Clemmie signed with an "x". NOTE: SOURCE: Pitt Brides by Allen Churchill Clemmie L. Smith, d/o John A. Smith m. April 19, 1893 Samuel G. Wetherington Clemmy Smith, d/o James Braddy m. Oct 4, 1877 John Gaskins. This Clemmy must have married a Smith first. Bill

    11/09/2005 01:59:44
    1. Re: [NC- minutes of meeting
    2. Lisa Would it be possible for me to get the names on those records or is there anyplace I can go on line to find it? I am interested in the Fields and other names in that area. Linda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:51:32 EST Subject: Re: [NC-PCFR] Lanier and James Griffin Bill, I have Lanier and James Griffin as the sons of Josiah Griffin and Martha Whitehead. I guess I based it on these notes I have. Miniutes of the Twenty Sixth Session of the Contentnea BaptistAssociation held at Rose of Sharon M. H., Lenoir County, N> C on the25th, 26th, 27th days of October, 1856. In these minutes is a"Biographical" sketch of the life of Elder James Griffin. This articlestates that Elder James Griffin was one of the sons of Mr. Josiah Griffinof Pitt co., N.C. James died in Craven Co., NC Ja. 25, 1858, Sincerely, Lisa ==== NC-PCFR Mailing List ==== Post to this mail list at: [email protected] Visit the PCFR website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncpcfr Browse our rich collection of old family photographs, private documents, and public records. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

    11/09/2005 08:55:50
    1. Re: [NC-PCFR] PEEDE
    2. Rae Jean
    3. Bill Thank you for this information.... this is a different group of Peed's. This will help me to keep them sorted out. Is the Peed Cemetery to which you refer in Person County? As a long time Peed researcher (descendant of group 2 and group 3), I can tell you there have been at least 4 groups of Peed's in the coastal areas of NC. Group One believed came out of VA, migrated to Person County NC, from Person County into other areas of NC. Group Two believed came out of VA, migrated to Edgecombe & Nash Counties, then to Beaufort County... these are my ancestors (Henry Peed line). Group Three found in Beaufort County, believed to have VA connections... these are my ancestors (George W Peed line). Group Four found in very early NC on VA border. This group has little published concerning descendants. As hard as it may be to believe, no documentation has been found that connects the four groups of Peed's to each other in NC or VA.... have searched for over 20 years. It is not unusual, especially in the 1700s through 1800s, to see the name spelled Pead, Peed, Peade, Peede, Peid, Pede, etc. Rae Jean ... in Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kittrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:55 PM Subject: [NC-PCFR] PEEDE : The only Peede family I know that lives around Ayden is Billy Peede, a friend of mine. I talked with him. He told me his family came from Roxboro in Person county. There is a large Peede cemetery located there that he has been to. I believe he may have more information but did not press him for that. I am sure I can get copy if need be. We use to play softball together. : : Billy Peede : Father: L. Hughes Peede : Grandfather: George Washington Peede : Great Grandfather: Parnell Peede : : He had not heard of any of the Peeds mentioned in the posting. : Bill :

    11/09/2005 07:36:44