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    1. Re: Lumbee, Pamunkey, and Wesorts
    2. David Bowden
    3. From: http://www.dickshovel.com/coreepro.html >Indian history and genealogy has been suppressed and obscured for a number of reasons, >lovingly belabored by Sheila Spencer Stover and others. After digesting the tribal >synonomies of Mooney, Swanton, Rights, et al, ad > nauseum, we find, in essence, that all the tribes of the Siouan Chicora nation, that >John Lawson told of being distributed from Charleston to Southside, Virginia at the >beginning of the 18th century mysteriously disappeared. > > At that time the Indians were in great cultural, social, economic, military and >geographic turmoil. By the time of the Revolutionary War, the Chicora Nation had been >either more or less surreptitiously absorbed into the White population, forced into >slave populations, been brutally annihilated, or had become Creeks, Cherokees, Catawbas, > Senecas or other such entities to meet the "Our Indians, Their Indians" criteria of the >European international "factory" system of dealing with them in the lucrative fur trade. >Or they sequestered themselves in hidden out-of-the-way corners of the land, from which >they now continue to emerge, seeking to reclaim their Native American identities. **************************************************************************** ******8 > > >Return-Path: <ShngSprt@aol.com> >From: ShngSprt@aol.com >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:46:33 EST >Subject: Re: Lumbee, Pamunkey, and Wesorts/// Thursday reply >To: dbbowden@mindspring.com > >Graoannnn, Moannnnnn, siiiiiiigh, and Joan Rivers gesture of finger down >throat. > >they never learn, do they??? > >Lumbee are recognised as Indian by the Congressional 1956 Lumbee Indian Act. >it is this very Act which pre forecludes them going thru the BIA/FAP process, >and what they are trying to over turn. > >Ms. Wanda Whittamore, Lumbee was recently in this area doing PR work, was >introduced by Gov. Hunt to the Legislative body over an issue (she works with >teens, kids, Elders) she was chosen Miss Indian World a couple years ago, >winning over Navajo, Lakota, you name it--- She is Lumbee. > >They were, thru the mid to late 1800s, identified as "Croatans". > >An in depth study of their genealogy, added to the physical characteristics, >(absolutely strartling eyes--I'd kill for the shade of green that shows up) > will show their descent quite clearly from many established Roanoke >Voyagers. Where the heck else would the names come from that early in >time--common sense alone . > >Dr. Francis Jennnigs stated, at dinner a couple years ago: "I didn't used >to agree, but, in researching over the years, reading and comparing, I am >now convinced, the Roanokes went south, etc., blah d blah." Now, if someone >wants to argue with the 80 plus year old Father of American Indian Studies, >then let them have at him. > >Tri-racial community/isolates, whatever, is a label deigned to further the >genocide of culture. (re-read first sentence) > >Both groups of :Piscataway can be shown to be related to one another, as >close as 2nd cousins, with burials in identical cemeteries. the in fighting >is just that, and part of the "get them to fight each other then we don't >have to worry about either---tactic working so well in Idnian /country these >days" > >And, considering few of us spoke to outsiders about our hierarchy, who can >say what our system of running things were/are?? I work with tribes today >who would just as soon not tell anyone anything. > >Considering the powers that be wanted no labels reading Indians, hence so >many laws stating what to use--mulatto being the more common >one---indicating a mix of Indian and something--and then of course, we have >Plecker of VA > >and, in 1975, Supreme Court of Massachusetts, in a land claim issue of great >import for the Mashpee--(See David Brodeur's "Restitution" for a quick >overview) stated, very clearly: > >"Native Americans/Indians have been commonly listed as negro and black since >well before the Revolutionary War. Color, or an assumption of race, may not >be made due to what was, and is, personal judgement in most cases." > >parprahrased, but close enuf. > >Want to pick my genealogy apart? I'm Delaware, matrilineally. My Delaware >gt.grandmother 's father was Narragansett. (Matrilineally, he didn't >count--slight smile here) On her Grandfather's line, she also had CT and old >New England families, fonders, but, with a couple Wampanaoags, Mohegans >thrown in. > >On the Delaware grandmother's husband's side: Old New England, Wampanoag, >Machapunga, Tuscarora, Shawnee, one lonely Cherokee 1775--others >indeterminate. > >the child of this union md Old Scotland, England, and: Montauk, Mohegan >again, >more indeterminate. > >And, their daughter md. my Dad, whose own father came straight form England, >md. Mohawk, Mohegan, Wampanoag, Palatine German, Welsh/Dutch. massachusetts >Bay. > >On BOTH sides, is the VanSallee, proveable black--sold/ etc lines. > >I'm my own tri racial isolate./Remnant Nation. > >What these folks who want to sort things out all neatly then wipe us out as >tho we don't exist, and never did----------forget is: > >All tribes got pushed, mingled, assimilated, acculturated, in varying ways, >for varying reasons, in varying degrees. Most of them un-asked for, and >certainly not self determining. > >Color does not denote race, it being a case of melanin--or not >melanin---and a recessive that can become rapidly dominant-- > >The areas now designated Virginia, North and South Carloina, there were, at >the beginning of massive contact, some 200 plus triblal groups--most of >which disappeared so rapidly they didn't even get their names marked down >for the sake of historical fact. Just--GONE. > >And, the nay-sayers also would love to have us all believe the names given > were accurrate, when few were---just newcomer designations/translations and > hearing. > >As a "Remnant Nation" all wrapped up in one body. I'm very representative >of most communities, groups, tribal People. > >You've seen some of my blood kin, David, know I'm kind of the odd man out--a >mass of recessive genes on the surface, altho my doctor (Thai) yesterday, in >concern over my health status, said "The only thing European about you is the >cover!! > > >Wesorts, Brass Ankles, Red Bones, Gingaskins---tri-racial isloates--allnames >to turn us faceless and into non-entities. > >Which no one onthe face of this earth is. Creator doesn't cause trouble, >act prejudiced or make garbage, People do. > >Few are going to pay attention to reality and truth, it doesn't fit their >agenda. > >Which is why, I just keep working, writing, researching and >gathering--teaching and talking. Everyday, we, at this house, get up and put > our feet, one in front of the other, as responsibly as we can, as best we >can, as honestly as we can, as kindly as we can. It's all anyone can do, is >expected to do. One changed mind can change history. Buckets are filled by a >drop of water at a time, beaches are built, one grain of sand at a >time----one does what one can. > >You know my old line: > >What one accepts, one teaches. > >You may quote, post, any of this if you see fit. It will fall on mostly >deaf ears. > >Hugs, > >Sis Firehair , running hard to your east!! > > > > >

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