Hello List, I am looking for anyone on the list who might have ancestors who are from the Pamilico or Bear River Tribes in what are now called Craven and Pamlico Counties, in North Carolina. Historians and antropologists claim that there are no longer any pure blood Pamlico or Bear River People left. They were absorbed into the Tuscarora and surrounding tribes in North Carolina and Southern Virginia. This might be true. I am of Pamlico descent and I would like to hear from anyone who may be also. There is a good chance that someone in the tribes along the VA/NC border may be on this List and have information.. I would also welcome accurate history. Regards, Two Waters

The Saponi helped Spotswood. The Saponi consisted of the Occaneechi, Tutelo and other remnant groups. They also resided at Fort Christianna. If I'm not mistaken, one of the Indians who served as a guide was called Indian Hascoll. He was an Occaneechi Indian. Doug Pat Elder wrote: > Hi Doug! > > Among your people, are there traditions of helping Alexander Spotswood in > the legendary trek across the Blue Ridge Mountains? I have tried for years > to document the tribal origin of a group of scouts who aided Spotswood. I > suspect they came from Fort Christanna and there is a bit of evidence they > were Meherrin. Any guidance you could give would be appreciated. > > Best wishes, > Pat Elder > "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better > for it." Abraham Lincoln > > http://ContinuityPress.com - Specializing in Melungeon, Appalachian, > Cumberland, and Civil War Genealogy and History Books > > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas & Paula Patterson [mailto:seriesx@netpath.net] > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:27 PM > To: NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Bear River and Pamlico Peoples NC > > Two Waters, > > I am of Meherrin ancestry. This group exists in the Hertford, Bertie, Gates, > and > Northampton counties boarding Virginia. I have never heard of anyone from > that > group, but am interested in learning about them. > > Doug

Hi Doug! Among your people, are there traditions of helping Alexander Spotswood in the legendary trek across the Blue Ridge Mountains? I have tried for years to document the tribal origin of a group of scouts who aided Spotswood. I suspect they came from Fort Christanna and there is a bit of evidence they were Meherrin. Any guidance you could give would be appreciated. Best wishes, Pat Elder "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it." Abraham Lincoln http://ContinuityPress.com - Specializing in Melungeon, Appalachian, Cumberland, and Civil War Genealogy and History Books -----Original Message----- From: Douglas & Paula Patterson [mailto:seriesx@netpath.net] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:27 PM To: NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Bear River and Pamlico Peoples NC Two Waters, I am of Meherrin ancestry. This group exists in the Hertford, Bertie, Gates, and Northampton counties boarding Virginia. I have never heard of anyone from that group, but am interested in learning about them. Doug

Two Waters, I am of Meherrin ancestry. This group exists in the Hertford, Bertie, Gates, and Northampton counties boarding Virginia. I have never heard of anyone from that group, but am interested in learning about them. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: ColinMitchel <COLINMITCHEl@worldnet.att.net> To: <NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:16 AM Subject: Bear River and Pamlico Peoples NC > Hello List, > > I am looking for anyone on the list who might have ancestors who are from the Pamilico or Bear River Tribes in what are now called Craven and Pamlico Counties, in North Carolina. > > Historians and antropologists claim that there are no longer any pure blood Pamlico or Bear River People left. They were absorbed into the Tuscarora and surrounding tribes in North Carolina and Southern Virginia. This might be true. > > I am of Pamlico descent and I would like to hear from anyone who may be also. There is a good chance that someone in the tribes along the VA/NC border may be on this List and have information.. > > I would also welcome accurate history. > > Regards, > > Two Waters > > > ==== NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA Mailing List ==== > This NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptrequest.html > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

From: <cdiller@juno.com> To: <WVHAMPSH-L@rootsweb.com> Anyone recognize any of these names? Natives, Traders, & Settlers on upper Potomac, pre-1735. My research focuses on the Potomac River above the Shenandoah (Harper's Ferry). The time frame is limited to pre-1735. The following lists are not complete. I need help documenting the presence of most of these men. (1) = on 1736 Winslow map of Potomac. (2) = evidence places him on Potomac before 1736, even if he's not on the map. (3) = I have further info./especially interested in him. NFI = He is on the 1736 map, but I have not found any other evidence to place him in the area. Traders: ANDERSON, Charles Mounts (adult 1707, died 1743+) (2) (3) Bradford, Major (mentioned in 1721 debt) Cartledge, Edmund (adult 1710, died 1742) Chartier, Martin (adult 1680, died 1718) Chartier, Peter (son; died 1748+) DALBO, Charles & Lars (both died 1721, smallpox) (3) FRIEND, Israel (1693-1750) (3) HOUSE, John Valentine Jr. (@1717-1808) (3) LeTort, James (adult 1718, died 1742+) MICHEL, Franz Louis (1675-1720) (3) Patterson, James (active 1721-1730) Settlers on Maryland side, going upstream, from east to west: John Moore, (active 1733-1756+) (2) William Spurgeon, (1) William Shepherd, (1) William Chaplin, (1690-1745) (1) Richard Spriggs, (died by 1750) (2) Henry Roan, (1) NFI John Perrin, (1729 Thomas Perrin trading with Indians in Pa.) William Moore, (1) (2) George Moore, (1) (2) Samuel Chew Jr., (2) Charles FRIEND, (1698-1751) (1) (2) (3) (name unknown) 1739, Md., warrant 95 acres: "White Oak Swamp" Jeremiah Jack, (1) (2) Samuel Owen, (1) (2) Thomas Flory, (1) NFI James Cole, (1) NFI James Matson, (1) (2) John Nicholls, (1) (3) Virginia side, going upstream, from east to west: Bernard Patterson, (1) NFI ISRAEL FRIEND, (1693-1750) (2) (3) Samuel Taylor, (d. 1762) (1) (2) William Spurgeon Sr., (1) (2) Thomas Shepherd, (2) William Chaplin, (born 1709) (1) Richard Paulson, (alive 1744) (1) (2) Jeremiah York, (1) NFI John Williams, (1) (2) Robert Looney (Lusey), (1) (2) Barent Newkirk, (1) (2) John Hood, (died 1742) (1) Capt. Freeland, (1) NFI Thomas Cherry, (died 1761) (1) (2) Others could be added to the list, such as Daniel Dulaney and Dr. Charles Carroll who speculated all over the area. In 1727 Humberton Lyon and Giles Margalith (Markwith?) witnessed a deed at the mouth of Antietam Creek; Lyon is found on occasional records, and appears to have moved to Augusta Co., Va. Shawnee Chiefs: Opessa, (d. 1720) aka Ophesaw Oneakoopa, (1720's) Pockaseta, (1720's) Loyparcowah, son of Opessa (and any other Shawnee on upper Potomac) Susquehannock (Conestoga) Chiefs: Callakahutt, (1727 deed) aka Calhagheherot. Civility, (active 1693-1736) aka Tagotolessa Shoe Hays, (active 1701-1758) aka Soohayesse. Tawenna, (active 1700-1728) aka Taw Wenaw. Toile Hangee, (active 1722-1744) aka Tyoolhousie. Unidentified tribe: Cunnawehala. (1727 deed) Corinne

Hello List, I am looking for a lost ancestor and his family. John Conner was born in North Carolina on Feb. 1st, 1802. I have been unable to find anything on his parents or his wife. His wife is listed as "unknown Indian". John and his wife had three children, Alcy, Penny, and John. They were all listed on the Jones Co. North Carolina census in 1850. The majority of my ancestors are Tuscarora, Pamlico, and Bear River People. However, the name Alcy was found with the Cherokee and Creek. If John's wife had been Tuscarora, we would have had some family record. So, I'm stuck. If anyone has any suggestions, they would be very much appreciated. Regards, Two Waters

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Only that a genealogy book (and I know sometimes those are not accurate) said that Elias Sanders was thought to have been born in Maryland. Another branch of our tree said their side of the family was always told he was born in North Carolina. I use both as a reference just in case. I plan on checking the 1880 census to see what his immediate children said his state of birth would have been. His father was said to be British but I don't even count on that at this point. Gale From: Thomas F Brown <tombrown@jhu.edu> To: NATIVEAMERICAN-DELMARVA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Possible Maryland Indian Tribe Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Sanders/Saunders is a common Cherokee name, but then, it's a common name in a lot of communities. What is the connection with MD? >I have just received a copy of a newspaper article written in 1923, about >how my ancestor, Elias Sanders was from the Plumer Indian Tribe. >The article says that the indian tribe was extinct by 1923. > >There are letters written to and from a Congressman Brand (who I believe was >a Congressman for Hartwell, Georgia) and the Office of Indian Affairs about >my ancestor's descendants and their claim of the govt taking away some or >all of their land. I am waiting for the film of this as the copy that was >sent to me was not very clear. > >Of course I want to find out all that I can about this. There has been so >much speculation on my family having indian blood and since this is the >first so called "evidence", I would like to find out all that I can. >Problem. I don't know where to start. Someone suggested BIA, someone else >said I might could find the letter's to the Congressman on file somewhere. >I am open to any and all suggestions. I know (at least I've not found >anything) we are not on any rolls as my family was living as whites. From >tradition, Elias father was some type of European and his mother is said to >be 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Shawnee. We've all heard stories about how he might >have lived with his mother's family and lived in both lifestyles, in his younger days. All speculation at this point but I do feel that there has to be something there. ============================== The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Sanders/Saunders is a common Cherokee name, but then, it's a common name in a lot of communities. What is the connection with MD? >I have just received a copy of a newspaper article written in 1923, about >how my ancestor, Elias Sanders was from the Plumer Indian Tribe. >The article says that the indian tribe was extinct by 1923. > >There are letters written to and from a Congressman Brand (who I believe was >a Congressman for Hartwell, Georgia) and the Office of Indian Affairs about >my ancestor's descendants and their claim of the govt taking away some or >all of their land. I am waiting for the film of this as the copy that was >sent to me was not very clear. > >Of course I want to find out all that I can about this. There has been so >much speculation on my family having indian blood and since this is the >first so called "evidence", I would like to find out all that I can. >Problem. I don't know where to start. Someone suggested BIA, someone else >said I might could find the letter's to the Congressman on file somewhere. >I am open to any and all suggestions. I know (at least I've not found >anything) we are not on any rolls as my family was living as whites. From >tradition, Elias father was some type of European and his mother is said to >be 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Shawnee. We've all heard stories about how he might >have lived with his mother's family and lived in both lifestyles, in his younger days. All speculation at this point but I do feel that there has to be something there.

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Sandra...have you checked the NARA website??there is a lot of info re: land/settlement claims.

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Hi List, I'm back again. Just got some infor and need some help researching it and as I know that this list is full of very helpful and knowledgeable people, here I am. I have just received a copy of a newspaper article written in 1923, about how my ancestor, Elias Sanders was from the Plumer Indian Tribe. The article says that the indian tribe was extinct by 1923. There are letters written to and from a Congressman Brand (who I believe was a Congressman for Hartwell, Georgia) and the Office of Indian Affairs about my ancestor's descendants and their claim of the govt taking away some or all of their land. I am waiting for the film of this as the copy that was sent to me was not very clear. Of course I want to find out all that I can about this. There has been so much speculation on my family having indian blood and since this is the first so called "evidence", I would like to find out all that I can. Problem. I don't know where to start. Someone suggested BIA, someone else said I might could find the letter's to the Congressman on file somewhere. I am open to any and all suggestions. I know (at least I've not found anything) we are not on any rolls as my family was living as whites. From tradition, Elias father was some type of European and his mother is said to be 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 Shawnee. We've all heard stories about how he might have lived with his mother's family and lived in both lifestyles, in his younger days. All speculation at this point but I do feel that there has to be something there. Thanks for any help you can offer and any directions that you will guide me in trying to sort out my puzzle. Gale Sanders Garland, TX ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com