Hi Barb, Yewell was born in KY, Sarah in OH, and the two were married in KY.  I have checked the roles as best I can but haven't found anything to date.  Also, I have periodically searched online with no success.  I was told he may have been involved in the Battle at Point Pleasant but haven't found his name listed on anything. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Lantto" <earthfeather99@yahoo.com> To: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:33:16 PM Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Mendaho Nancy   What location are we talking about?   Question #2? Have you checked the Indian Rolls?   And hava you used your  browser   ........         to run a search?   BARB From: "nlyons54@comcast.net" <nlyons54@comcast.net> >To: NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:58 PM >Subject: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Mendaho > > >I'm still looking for information on Chief Mendaho, believed to be Cherokee, perhaps Shawnee.  According to family history, he is the grandfather of Anna Laura Boyd, b 13 Dec 1866, whose parents were Yewell Boyd and Sarah Wyatt.  I cannot determine which line he's connected to nor can I find his Christian name and exact ethnicity.   Any help would be appreciated. > >Nancy > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm still looking for information on Chief Mendaho, believed to be Cherokee, perhaps Shawnee.  According to family history, he is the grandfather of Anna Laura Boyd, b 13 Dec 1866, whose parents were Yewell Boyd and Sarah Wyatt.  I cannot determine which line he's connected to nor can I find his Christian name and exact ethnicity.   Any help would be appreciated. Nancy

Nancy   What location are we talking about?   Question #2? Have you checked the Indian Rolls?   And hava you used your  browser   ........         to run a search?   BARB From: "nlyons54@comcast.net" <nlyons54@comcast.net> >To: NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 5:58 PM >Subject: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Mendaho > > >I'm still looking for information on Chief Mendaho, believed to be Cherokee, perhaps Shawnee.  According to family history, he is the grandfather of Anna Laura Boyd, b 13 Dec 1866, whose parents were Yewell Boyd and Sarah Wyatt.  I cannot determine which line he's connected to nor can I find his Christian name and exact ethnicity.   Any help would be appreciated. > >Nancy > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The independent documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche", about the vision of the world and the struggle of the Mapuche people on both sides of the Andes Mountains, is participating in the Green Unplugged Festival and can be watched on-line at the following link: http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/fes tival/play/6068/The-Voice-of-the-Mapuche Please continue participating and resending to your friends and contacts. The more people watch it, the stronger it becomes. www.lavozmapuchedocumental.com/english The Mapuche defeated the Spanish Crown invaders, and do not recognize the border that Chile and Argentina have tried to impose. Presently, the struggle is focused on maintaining the identity as a people, and stopping the encroachment of multinational corporations in Mapuche ancestral territory. In an effort to increase profits, logging, hydroelectric, oil, mining, and tourist companies -among others- cause destruction and pollution on both sides of the Andes Mountains. The legal, political and military structures of Chile and Argentina favor the interests of big business. The rights of a people whose spirituality is directly linked to Nature are constantly violated. The search for living in harmony with the environment, a horizontal way of organizing, and a resilience that has never been broken, have allowed the Mapuche to resist for over five centuries and assert: We still exist. In a journey through different communities of Puelmapu (the land where the Sun rises) and Gulumapu (the land where the Sun sets), the documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche" takes the viewer across rivers, lakes, forests, and mountains. It registers the words and wisdom of Mapuche women, men, children, youth, and elders. The film breaks through the official news blackout, when it enters the prisons where the defenders of Mapuche rights are serving their sentences. Additionally, it covers a hunger strike that went on for over 100 days and gave rise to a wave of demonstrations. The music, the paintings, the poetry, the language, the rituals, the traditions, and the strength of Nature and the ancestors are present in "The Voice of the Mapuche". In this independent documentary, the Mapuche vision of the world is the basis to understand the struggle.

The independent documentary "The Voice of the Mapuche", about the vision of the world and the struggle of the Mapuche people on both sides of the Andes Mountains, is participating in the Green Unplugged Festival and can be watched on-line at the following link: http://www.cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/fes tival/play/6068/The-Voice-of-the-Mapuche Please continue participating and resending to your friends and contacts. The more people watch it, the stronger it becomes. www.lavozmapuchedocumental.com/english

Graham, I found this info on ancestry.com from Wikipedia. If this sounds like your ancestor, let me know for more details. EagleLittle Wa-na-ta (Dakota: Wánataŋ which translates as One who charges, or Charger) was a chief of the Yanktonai, a tribe of the Sioux. He was born around 1795. The Yanktonai were located near the St. Peter River, which is today known as the Minnesota River. The Yanktonai were said to have a population between five and six thousand individuals with 1,300 warriors. Wanata was a very influential chief, as evidenced by his ability to lead his tribes’1,300 warriors into battle. At age 18, Wanata was accustomed to the ways of war and fought under his father Red Thunder (then the chief of the Yanktonai) against the Americans in the War of 1812. Wanata was recruited by British Colonel Dixon whom convinced him to join him in battle at Sandusky. During this battle, Wanata charged Fort Sandusky and was wounded, but earned himself the nickname “Charger.” After the war Wanata sided with the Americans and even helped influence trade on the Missouri River. He was murdered by his own tribesmen who were upset with his leadership in 1848. 1. Re: Chief Onawaya (Graham Riain) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:46:57 +0000 rom: Graham Riain <grahamriain@gmail.com> ubject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Onawaya o: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <AANLkTimEXvNM-Sp=osfCs367wXmPZcYcOJLh8bzyUy32@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Rhonda hank you for your reply. did find this information too. ll I know is that Chief Onawaya (not sure if the spelling is correct but it ounds like on a waya) is mother name was Ithay (eetay) Not sure if he was in the US or Canada. have found with google and other search engines that over time you get ifferent answers to your searches. Thanks again raham -----Original Message----- From: nativeamerican-chiefs-request@rootsweb.com To: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Jan 15, 2011 3:00 am Subject: NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Chief Onawaya (Graham Riain) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 ate: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:46:57 +0000 rom: Graham Riain <grahamriain@gmail.com> ubject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Onawaya o: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com essage-ID: <AANLkTimEXvNM-Sp=osfCs367wXmPZcYcOJLh8bzyUy32@mail.gmail.com> ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Rhonda hank you for your reply. did find this information too. ll I know is that Chief Onawaya (not sure if the spelling is correct but it ounds like on a waya) is mother name was Ithay (eetay) Not sure if he was in the US or Canada. have found with google and other search engines that over time you get ifferent answers to your searches. Thanks again raham On 21 December 2010 05:00, Rhonda Graves <flegel_graves@yahoo.com> wrote: > The only thing I found when I Googled was information on a thoroughbred horse named Chief Onawaya, born in 1936. Here's the link: http://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1292904284&.rand=d3sqrne0jur7r#_pg=compose&&.rand=388407844&reply&action_msg_reply&clean&hash=44f66babc3ef40b7992d91ac1ed200b7&.jsrand=745180 I copied and pasted from your inquiry so it would be spelled the same. Do you suppose that's it? Rhonda --- On Mon, 12/20/10, grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> wrote: From: grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> Subject: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Onawaya To: "NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com" < NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:12 AM Hello Everyone Just wondering if anyone can help me get info on Chief Onawaya? Thank you for your assistance Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------- To contact the NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS list administrator, send an email to ATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS mailing list, send an email to ATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of he mail with no additional text. nd of NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1 **************************************************

Hi Rhonda Thank you for your reply. I did find this information too. All I know is that Chief Onawaya (not sure if the spelling is correct but it sounds like on a waya) His mother name was Ithay (eetay) Not sure if he was in the US or Canada. I have found with google and other search engines that over time you get different answers to your searches. Thanks again Graham On 21 December 2010 05:00, Rhonda Graves <flegel_graves@yahoo.com> wrote: > The only thing I found when I Googled was information on a thoroughbred > horse named Chief Onawaya, born in 1936. Here's the link: > http://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1292904284&.rand=d3sqrne0jur7r#_pg=compose&&.rand=388407844&reply&action_msg_reply&clean&hash=44f66babc3ef40b7992d91ac1ed200b7&.jsrand=745180 > > I copied and pasted from your inquiry so it would be spelled the same. Do > you suppose that's it? > > Rhonda > > --- On Mon, 12/20/10, grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> > Subject: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Onawaya > To: "NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com" < > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:12 AM > > > Hello Everyone > Just wondering if anyone can help me get info on Chief Onawaya? > Thank you for your assistance > Graham > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The only thing I found when I Googled was information on a thoroughbred horse named Chief Onawaya, born in 1936. Here's the link: http://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/welcome?.gx=1&.tm=1292904284&.rand=d3sqrne0jur7r#_pg=compose&&.rand=388407844&reply&action_msg_reply&clean&hash=44f66babc3ef40b7992d91ac1ed200b7&.jsrand=745180   I copied and pasted from your inquiry so it would be spelled the same. Do you suppose that's it?   Rhonda --- On Mon, 12/20/10, grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> wrote: From: grahamriain <grahamriain@gmail.com> Subject: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] Chief Onawaya To: "NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com" <NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, December 20, 2010, 10:12 AM Hello Everyone Just wondering if anyone can help me get info on Chief Onawaya? Thank you for your assistance Graham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Everyone Just wondering if anyone can help me get info on Chief Onawaya? Thank you for your assistance Graham

Hello, For quite some time now I have been trying to find any information about: CHOCTAW CHIEF TUSQUAHOMA and the group of approximately 50 families that were with him from the late 1700's into about 1840/1850 in the OUACHITA PARISH, LOUISIANA area. It has been suggested that my maternal 3rd Great Grandmother Frances Lucretia "Patsy" LOTT, born: Abt. 1802 in Alabama/Mississippi Territory, died: May 01,1840 in Indian Creek, Ouachita/Jackson Parish, Louisiana during childbirth or shortly thereafter with the birth of the last of her 9 children as the 1st wife of William HATTEN who then moved his children into Winn Parish, Louisiana where he became the 1st Coroner and married 2nd wife Anna "Annie" NETTLES. Frances Lucretia "Patsy" LOTT is generally shown as the daughter of Martha Jane Dorsey? LIGHTFOOT, poss. aka "Patsy," and Absalom LOTT; however, one researcher shows Frances as the daughter of Choctaw Chief TUSQUAHOMA. I imagine if he is part of her family that he was her mother's father but that is strictly speculation. I would appreciate any information that anyone has about where Chief TUSQUAHOMA and his band of Choctaw went after leaving Ouachita/Jackson Parish, Louisiana in the mid-1800's. Thanks. Best Regards, Bellinda Myrick-Barnett

I am forwarding this request to the list for anyone who can help. I would imagine that he who like to speak with tribal historians or any other knowledgeable member of any tribe in to areas mentioned. Please respond directly to Sylwana as he is not a member of the list. Thanks, Dave Eastham List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: <sylwana1@interia.pl> To: <NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-admin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:00 AM Subject: any chief near chicago?? > Hi, > I study International Relations in Poland, and my master`s thesis will > cover the topic of influence of white man on Native Americans. As I`ll be > visiting chicago this August, I would like to meet with chief of any tribe > risiding somwhere around there. I cannot find any data on which tribes now > live in Illinois, Indiana or Wisconsin - (closer to Chicago), the better. > Please can you help me an tell me names of tribes residing any near > Chicago, or at least in Illinois or Wisconsin or Indiana?? I would also > appreciate any e-mail adresses to the tribes in the region. > Thank you > Sylwana Litwin - Kita > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jesteś Polakiem i mieszkasz za granica? Sprawdz! > kliknij >>> http://link.interia.pl/f1e38 > > >

Thank you, Barb. ( I forwarded it on to her.) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gordonlantto@aol.com> To: <nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] VIOLA ALLEN TRIMBLE > There are 865 Allen's on the Cherokee Rolls. > > _http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/cgi-bin/search.cgi_ > (http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/cgi-bin/search.cgi) > > > Barb aka Earthfeather > > > > > > > > In a message dated 5/4/2008 12:12:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > kenrob39@sbcglobal.net writes: > > > > Dear List, > I am submitting a query (plea for assistance) from Felicia Trujillo for > information regarding the following person. > Thank you. > Ken Robinson > > > > From: FELICIA N TRUJILLO > Subject: FW: VIOLA ALLEN TRIMBLE > > Am lost trying to find my great-grandma, VIOLA TRIMBLE (B. 1846, > Kentucky). > It looks like her Dad or foster Dad was Sam Allen, (b. 1822, Kentucky) > and > mother was Mary F. Busy in 1845. VIOLA married a Trimble, then ended up > marrying an Englishman named Benjamin Turlay in Oregon, who was my gg > granddad. I > know his family helped found the Historical Society in Oregon, but I > never > could figure out how to pull their files via the internet. > > > I found her on a census in Abiqua Precinct, Marion County, OR in 1860: > Sam Allen, 54 > Sarah, 49 > Viola, 14 > and several initials of other kids. Anyone run into anything near this? > > > > Someone kindly advised me that Allen was a well-known Cherokee name. All > we > know is that she was Indian, but we thought she was Chinook as they were > in > Oregon. Her sons all were very dark, but not Negroid. Not that I would > mind, > actually, but I kinda cover that from my Moorish-Turkish-Portuguese > Jewish > line of Conquistadores <grin>! > > > I think Barb would like the Melungeon List at rootsweb, although they are > pretty much like a family--both the good and the bad. The good is > support, the > bad is arguments <grin>. > > felicidades, > > Felicia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are 865 Allen's on the Cherokee Rolls. _http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/cgi-bin/search.cgi_ (http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/cgi-bin/search.cgi) Barb aka Earthfeather In a message dated 5/4/2008 12:12:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, kenrob39@sbcglobal.net writes: Dear List, I am submitting a query (plea for assistance) from Felicia Trujillo for information regarding the following person. Thank you. Ken Robinson From: FELICIA N TRUJILLO Subject: FW: VIOLA ALLEN TRIMBLE Am lost trying to find my great-grandma, VIOLA TRIMBLE (B. 1846, Kentucky). It looks like her Dad or foster Dad was Sam Allen, (b. 1822, Kentucky) and mother was Mary F. Busy in 1845. VIOLA married a Trimble, then ended up marrying an Englishman named Benjamin Turlay in Oregon, who was my gg granddad. I know his family helped found the Historical Society in Oregon, but I never could figure out how to pull their files via the internet. I found her on a census in Abiqua Precinct, Marion County, OR in 1860: Sam Allen, 54 Sarah, 49 Viola, 14 and several initials of other kids. Anyone run into anything near this? Someone kindly advised me that Allen was a well-known Cherokee name. All we know is that she was Indian, but we thought she was Chinook as they were in Oregon. Her sons all were very dark, but not Negroid. Not that I would mind, actually, but I kinda cover that from my Moorish-Turkish-Portuguese Jewish line of Conquistadores <grin>! I think Barb would like the Melungeon List at rootsweb, although they are pretty much like a family--both the good and the bad. The good is support, the bad is arguments <grin>. felicidades, Felicia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

Dear List, I am submitting a query (plea for assistance) from Felicia Trujillo for information regarding the following person. Thank you. Ken Robinson From: FELICIA N TRUJILLO Subject: FW: VIOLA ALLEN TRIMBLE Am lost trying to find my great-grandma, VIOLA TRIMBLE (B. 1846, Kentucky). It looks like her Dad or foster Dad was Sam Allen, (b. 1822, Kentucky) and mother was Mary F. Busy in 1845. VIOLA married a Trimble, then ended up marrying an Englishman named Benjamin Turlay in Oregon, who was my gg granddad. I know his family helped found the Historical Society in Oregon, but I never could figure out how to pull their files via the internet. I found her on a census in Abiqua Precinct, Marion County, OR in 1860: Sam Allen, 54 Sarah, 49 Viola, 14 and several initials of other kids. Anyone run into anything near this? Someone kindly advised me that Allen was a well-known Cherokee name. All we know is that she was Indian, but we thought she was Chinook as they were in Oregon. Her sons all were very dark, but not Negroid. Not that I would mind, actually, but I kinda cover that from my Moorish-Turkish-Portuguese Jewish line of Conquistadores <grin>! I think Barb would like the Melungeon List at rootsweb, although they are pretty much like a family--both the good and the bad. The good is support, the bad is arguments <grin>. felicidades, Felicia

"The science of Native American DNA testing DNA testing for Native American identity and enrollment is clearly problematic on a social, cultural, and political front. But what about the science behind such tests? There are problems there too. The tests can fail to detect Native American ancestry in individuals with Native American ancestors, and incorrectly identify it in others who do not have such ancestors. First, Native American DNA tests examine only a small proportion of the test taker's DNA. Most tests fall into one of two categories: mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) tests and Y-chromosome tests. MtDNA tests examine DNA that is inherited only from one's mother (and her mother, and her mother before her...). Y-chromosome tests examine DNA that is passed down from grandfather to father to son (and so on). These tests examine less than 1% of the test taker's DNA, and shed light on only one maternal or paternal ancestor. Thus, even if all of your grandparents were Native American except for your mother's mother, a mtDNA test would still fail to detect Native American ancestry. Second, DNA tests may certify some individuals as having Native American ancestry when in fact they do not. These tests use the following logic: if a genetic marker is common in Native Americans, and you have the marker, you are probably Native American. The problem is that 'common' is not the same as 'only found in' Native Americans. Given the high level of genetic variation within all human populations, relatively few markers are restricted to a single group in this way. In fact, not all "Native American" markers used in the DNA tests are actually found only in Native Americans. Some of the markers are most common in Native American populations, so any individual with those markers most likely has Native American ancestry. But because such markers can still be found in non-Native American populations, just at lower frequencies, Native American DNA tests may falsely identify some individuals as having Native American ancestry. Such "false positives" may be responsible for the more perplexing results of these tests. Several come from DNAPrint's AncestrybyDNA test, which examines 175 markers found throughout the genome to estimate the test taker's "ancestral proportions" (% Native American, % European, % East Asian, and % African). Based on their test results, DNAPrint claims that most Mediterranean Europeans, Middle Easterners, Jews, and South Asian Indians have Native American ancestry. If, however, some of the markers they consider diagnostic of Native American ancestry are really not, then such results are not accurate and the reliability of this test is cast into doubt. Thus, Native American DNA tests do not provide foolproof answers to questions of Native American ancestry. In many cases, their results are accurate and informative. But in others, they fail to detect such ancestry in individuals with Native American ancestors, and they incorrectly identify it in others. The appropriate use of such imperfect tests must be considered carefully." http://shrn.stanford.edu/workshops/revisitingrace/TallBear_Bolnick.doc -----Original Message----- From: nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:44 PM To: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 "IPCB points out that "Native American markers" are not found solely among Native Americans. While they occur more frequently among Native Americans they are also found in people in other parts of the world." http://www.manataka.org/page267.html Even if you have the so called "Native American Marker" it can't tell you which American Indian Tribe or some other peoples it might have come from. Tammy -----Original Message----- From: nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cherokeeldy51@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:05 PM To: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 Is there proof that Cherokee's are not part Jewish? Proof to me that there are no Hebrew culture in Cherokee's culture. Until it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt..I beleive Hebrews/Jews are part of Cherokee's. DNA of Brock's (Cherokee's) prove Jewish blood with Cherokee blood. Maybe not all Cherokee's have Jewish blood but Brock's are proven to have Cherokee and Jewish blood. Carol (descendents of Brock and Osborne) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there proof that Cherokee's are not part Jewish? Proof to me that there are no Hebrew culture in Cherokee's culture. Until it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt..I beleive Hebrews/Jews are part of Cherokee's. DNA of Brock's (Cherokee's) prove Jewish blood with Cherokee blood. Maybe not all Cherokee's have Jewish blood but Brock's are proven to have Cherokee and Jewish blood. Carol (descendents of Brock and Osborne) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

"IPCB points out that "Native American markers" are not found solely among Native Americans. While they occur more frequently among Native Americans they are also found in people in other parts of the world." http://www.manataka.org/page267.html Even if you have the so called "Native American Marker" it can't tell you which American Indian Tribe or some other peoples it might have come from. Tammy -----Original Message----- From: nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nativeamerican-chiefs-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cherokeeldy51@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:05 PM To: nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 Is there proof that Cherokee's are not part Jewish? Proof to me that there are no Hebrew culture in Cherokee's culture. Until it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt..I beleive Hebrews/Jews are part of Cherokee's. DNA of Brock's (Cherokee's) prove Jewish blood with Cherokee blood. Maybe not all Cherokee's have Jewish blood but Brock's are proven to have Cherokee and Jewish blood. Carol (descendents of Brock and Osborne) **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not know where you have spent over fifty years of research. But you are very misinformed. the Indians were already farmers before Jamestown....In fact the Indians introduced to the world over 80% of the world's food .That is a fact. And yes there is all kinds of evidence that the Indians had a Hebrew past including mounds, pyramids , rituals and artifacts.. Earthfeather Descendant of Lenni-Lenapa, Shawnee, Powhatan, Cherokee, and Sauk & Fox In a message dated 4/30/2008 8:42:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cthompson139@shaw.ca writes: Re: Jewishness. I've been doing native research for over 50 years and have found many referances to Indians being the Lost Tribe of Isreal. Which is nonsense. Anyone can go to the Library of Congress and get many tomes written on the topic, many dating back to the 1840s. At one time, Jews of the northeast (mainly New York) even believed that Indians were Jews, so much, that they bought land out west (Ohio Valley, if I remember correctly) and sent rabbis to get indians to come and settle down on the Jewish land that had been purchased to turn the Indians into farmers. Few Indians went to become farmers, if any, and the movement died out amongst the Jews about the 1890s. I'm sorry but I can't remember the names of the authors, but there have been several prominent books and studies about the movement, and especially about one certain rabbi who went west to convert the Indians. Jewish belief, in my opinion, came from the fact that there were reports (inaccurate, of course) that Indians had the same ceremonies as Jews; which is ludicrous, of course, because at the time when the movement developed (about the 1840s) no one had ever done a reliable, real study of Indian life, religious beliefs or ceremonies. That came later, but it didn't stop the New York Jews from believing such a preposterous idea, and acting upon such an illiterate proposal. I don't mean to insult them, for the Jews were trying to do what was right for them....but the Indians? My suggestion.....forget the Jewish nonsense. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacnrg@aol.com> To: <nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 > > In a message dated 4/22/2008 7:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > nativeamerican-chiefs-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > I have also read about the rituals of Cherokee that are Hebrew in nature. > It > is very interesting. So I would say it trickles down the generations. I > want > to learn more. I am sort of new at genealogy (about 3 years now) and I am > going > to do more research on Cherokee's and Ancient Hebrew Culture that was part > of > Cherokee's. > I will find that one pic to send you of Chief Red Bird. Look at pattern > on > his arms.It appear to be a "bird" and "star" as from Israel.... > Is there anyone else on list who may be able to identify the symbols on > his > clothes. If so...send me your email address and I will share in hopes of > getting some help. > > Carol > > > > Would enjoy seeing the photo of Chief Red Bird. > > EagelLittle > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Check out "MELUNGEONS: The Last Lost Tribe in America." It is claimed that Daniel BOONE and Abraham LINCOLN were descendants. YDNA tests can only note a Cohen line (descended from Aaron). Other than that there is no "Jewish gene," just as there is no Baptist, Catholic, or Muslim gene. Everything else is left to belief (without documentary "proof.") ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cherokeeldy51@aol.com> To: <nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 > Is there proof that Cherokee's are not part Jewish? Proof to me that > there > are no Hebrew culture in Cherokee's culture. Until it is proven beyond a > shadow > of a doubt..I beleive Hebrews/Jews are part of Cherokee's. DNA of Brock's > (Cherokee's) prove Jewish blood with Cherokee blood. Maybe not all > Cherokee's > have Jewish blood but Brock's are proven to have Cherokee and Jewish > blood. > > Carol (descendents of Brock and Osborne) > > > > **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used > car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Mormons are great proponents of the idea, also. But Joseph Smith copied what was in a book that had been published before he found his "tablets of Moroni." That's where we get "moronic." LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles D Thompson" <cthompson139@shaw.ca> To: <nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol 3,Issue 2 > Re: Jewishness. I've been doing native research for over 50 years and have > found many referances to Indians being the Lost Tribe of Isreal. Which is > nonsense. Anyone can go to the Library of Congress and get many tomes > written on the topic, many dating back to the 1840s. At one time, Jews of > the northeast (mainly New York) even believed that Indians were Jews, so > much, that they bought land out west (Ohio Valley, if I remember > correctly) > and sent rabbis to get indians to come and settle down on the Jewish land > that had been purchased to turn the Indians into farmers. Few Indians went > to become farmers, if any, and the movement died out amongst the Jews > about > the 1890s. I'm sorry but I can't remember the names of the authors, but > there have been several prominent books and studies about the movement, > and > especially about one certain rabbi who went west to convert the Indians. > Jewish belief, in my opinion, came from the fact that there were reports > (inaccurate, of course) that Indians had the same ceremonies as Jews; > which > is ludicrous, of course, because at the time when the movement developed > (about the 1840s) no one had ever done a reliable, real study of Indian > life, religious beliefs or ceremonies. That came later, but it didn't stop > the New York Jews from believing such a preposterous idea, and acting upon > such an illiterate proposal. I don't mean to insult them, for the Jews > were > trying to do what was right for them....but the Indians? My > suggestion.....forget the Jewish nonsense. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Jacnrg@aol.com> > To: <nativeamerican-chiefs@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS] NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS Digest, Vol > 3,Issue 2 > > >> >> In a message dated 4/22/2008 7:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> nativeamerican-chiefs-request@rootsweb.com writes: >> >> I have also read about the rituals of Cherokee that are Hebrew in >> nature. >> It >> is very interesting. So I would say it trickles down the generations. I >> want >> to learn more. I am sort of new at genealogy (about 3 years now) and I >> am >> going >> to do more research on Cherokee's and Ancient Hebrew Culture that was >> part >> of >> Cherokee's. >> I will find that one pic to send you of Chief Red Bird. Look at pattern >> on >> his arms.It appear to be a "bird" and "star" as from Israel.... >> Is there anyone else on list who may be able to identify the symbols on >> his >> clothes. If so...send me your email address and I will share in hopes of >> getting some help. >> >> Carol >> >> >> >> Would enjoy seeing the photo of Chief Red Bird. >> >> EagelLittle >> >> >> >> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used >> car >> listings at AOL Autos. >> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NATIVEAMERICAN-CHIEFS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message