I chased the wrong ggparents! I hope someone else can use it. Barbara : ) Note that MILLER and MUELLER are pronounced the same in Bavarian. William Miller, age 38, male, born Bavaria, residence: New Utrecht M593-Roll 963, page 274 1870 New Utrecht census MILLER, *Wilhelm/Wm. [b.1833] & Margaretta/Margaret ? [b. 1836/7], had 5 sons in NYC or Bklyn, 1862-1875: [b. certs not found in NYC records] Philip, 1862--June, `61? Charles, 1866 Gus, 1868--Feb. [see 1900 census below] Fritz, 1872 Henry 4/24/1875 born at 306 Chauncey St. [*Wm. was born in Bavaria, Germany] 1870 Bklyn directory; MILLER, William, carpenter, h. 306 Chauncey 1870 census MILLER, Wm. 38 yrs. Prus New Lots Kings M593 963 233 MILLER, Wm. 52 yrs. Prus 9 ward Bklyn. M593 950 227 East 15th St., Manhattan 1900 NY Census: Miller, Gustav, head, White Male, b. February 1868, 32 Married 4 years, b. NY, parents b. Germany, tailor. Miller, Annie, wife, white female, born January 1870 30 married 4 years, no children born, no children living, born in NY, parents born in Germany. [found by Linda] Philip Miller born June 1861 in New York, parents born in Germany. I know you show 1862 but if you used a prior census for his birth year - this may work (especially since he's born in June!) This is the information - Kings County, Roll 1067, Page 206a [found by Linda]