This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Muller, Lutz,Franz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3Y2.2ACIB/53.69.76.1.2 Message Board Post: There is a NY Census lookup list on rootsweb. You might make a request there for a lookup on the 1870 NY census. Hopefully, if she had sons by that year you will be able to get info with the name Herlick.. Also since you know the date of her death Lutheran Cemetery will give names of all who are buried in her plot for a fee. Phone them--they are very nice.From that list you can get death certs...just my 2 cents worth Florence