This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Loran, Butler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/INB.2ACE/821.1102.1260.1 Message Board Post: My Husbands Grandfather, Michael Loran, is Patricks brother. I just read your message and wondered if you have recieved any information, They were born in Ireland. Sarah