I definitely agree that we don't need dates on all pages of the website. <g> Shirley On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > A What's New can be used for a variety of things including > housekeeping, new interesting and useful links or the fact that a page > on your site has been added to. I am going to start adding a date on > pages when I work on them so eventually my sites will have dates on > every page but I don't think that should be a requirement. > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Suzanne Andrews <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I like the idea of a "What's New" page. I'll have to think about that > for my > > pages--at least for my county. The other two counties I have might be a > little > > more difficult to come up with new things other than possible links. > > Definitely a good idea tho! > > > > > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:11 -0500 > > Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Personally I feel that the reason many states in the USGenWeb have > >> gone stagnant is because the project does not require periodic > >> updating to county sites within the project. Some counties in the > >> project, (not here), list a last update of 2008, which in my opinion > >> is shameful. I don't think it is asking too much of a county > >> coordinator to provide a minimum of two additional sources of > >> genealogical information a year to our counties. I don't think an > >> update date within 3 months is necessary but I do agree that there > >> needs to be something added once every six months at minimum. In > >> another project we are required to have a What's New page on which we > >> list our additions. Not only does this make it easy for researchers > >> to check new additions and promote people's return but it makes it > >> easy for project members to see that the CC is active. > >> > >> Perhaps we could vote in some bare minimum requirements for our state > >> project? I feel that this could only be a positive move for us! > >> Karen > >> > >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > >>wrote: > >>> Correction...the USGenWeb does not have a requirement on updates to the > >>> county websites. The paragraph from the Policies page is from the > MTGenWeb > >>> rules and is not part of the required elements but is "strongly > >>> recommended". > >>> > >>> I don't think we need to require a "last update date" on all county > >>> websites but would like to see the MTGenWeb add a requirement for sites > >>> with a last update date to keep the date current. I personally like a 3 > >>> month time frame but 6 months works too. <g> > >>> > >>> Please post your thoughts on this issue and let's discuss the pros and > cons. > >>> > >>> Shirley > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Just a reminder that county websites must be updated at least twice a > year > >>>> per the USGenWeb requirements. Therefore the last update date on our > >>>> websites should not be more than 6 months old. And according to the > >>>> MTGenWeb Policies page, it is *suggested* that last update dates be > >>>> "within a month or so" (see below). With those statements in mind, the > >>>> County of Excellence rules will be updated. To be eligible for the > MTGenWeb > >>>> COE award, county websites that have a last update date on them must > have > >>>> dates that are no older than 6 months. > >>>> > >>>> I appreciate your assistance in making sure your county website is > >>>> compliant with all rules. > >>>> > >>>> Shirley > >>>> > >>>> From the Policies page: > >>>> 10.*IT IS ESSENTIAL* that your site be well-maintained and updated as > >>>> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research > >>>> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, > etc., > >>>> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, > funeral > >>>> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing > reference > >>>> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be > >>>> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" > >>>> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we > find > >>>> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, > >>>> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State > Coordinator > >>>> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. > >>>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > >>>the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > >>the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Suzanne Andrews > > [email protected] > > Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives > > Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator > > for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, > > and Powell counties, Montana > > http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Not to misunderstand what I was saying...that is, I was not saying that all the pages need update dates...only that it is nice to see them there--it also helps the website owner know when s/he last updated that page. However, I do think there should be one on the entry page tho--required or not--it makes a statement that the site is current. I have an automatic date that updates on my pages so whenever I do go in and make a change, big or small, it changes the date and I don't have to worry about it. On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:04:47 -0500 Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > I definitely agree that we don't need dates on all pages of the website. <g> > > Shirley > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A What's New can be used for a variety of things including >> housekeeping, new interesting and useful links or the fact that a page >> on your site has been added to. I am going to start adding a date on >> pages when I work on them so eventually my sites will have dates on >> every page but I don't think that should be a requirement. >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Suzanne Andrews <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I like the idea of a "What's New" page. I'll have to think about that >> for my >> > pages--at least for my county. The other two counties I have might be a >> little >> > more difficult to come up with new things other than possible links. >> > Definitely a good idea tho! >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:11 -0500 >> > Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Personally I feel that the reason many states in the USGenWeb have >> >> gone stagnant is because the project does not require periodic >> >> updating to county sites within the project. Some counties in the >> >> project, (not here), list a last update of 2008, which in my opinion >> >> is shameful. I don't think it is asking too much of a county >> >> coordinator to provide a minimum of two additional sources of >> >> genealogical information a year to our counties. I don't think an >> >> update date within 3 months is necessary but I do agree that there >> >> needs to be something added once every six months at minimum. In >> >> another project we are required to have a What's New page on which we >> >> list our additions. Not only does this make it easy for researchers >> >> to check new additions and promote people's return but it makes it >> >> easy for project members to see that the CC is active. >> >> >> >> Perhaps we could vote in some bare minimum requirements for our state >> >> project? I feel that this could only be a positive move for us! >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >> >>wrote: >> >>> Correction...the USGenWeb does not have a requirement on updates to the >> >>> county websites. The paragraph from the Policies page is from the >> MTGenWeb >> >>> rules and is not part of the required elements but is "strongly >> >>> recommended". >> >>> >> >>> I don't think we need to require a "last update date" on all county >> >>> websites but would like to see the MTGenWeb add a requirement for sites >> >>> with a last update date to keep the date current. I personally like a 3 >> >>> month time frame but 6 months works too. <g> >> >>> >> >>> Please post your thoughts on this issue and let's discuss the pros and >> cons. >> >>> >> >>> Shirley >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Just a reminder that county websites must be updated at least twice a >> year >> >>>> per the USGenWeb requirements. Therefore the last update date on our >> >>>> websites should not be more than 6 months old. And according to the >> >>>> MTGenWeb Policies page, it is *suggested* that last update dates be >> >>>> "within a month or so" (see below). With those statements in mind, the >> >>>> County of Excellence rules will be updated. To be eligible for the >> MTGenWeb >> >>>> COE award, county websites that have a last update date on them must >> have >> >>>> dates that are no older than 6 months. >> >>>> >> >>>> I appreciate your assistance in making sure your county website is >> >>>> compliant with all rules. >> >>>> >> >>>> Shirley >> >>>> >> >>>> From the Policies page: >> >>>> 10.*IT IS ESSENTIAL* that your site be well-maintained and updated as >> >>>> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research >> >>>> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, >> etc., >> >>>> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, >> funeral >> >>>> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing >> reference >> >>>> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be >> >>>> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" >> >>>> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we >> find >> >>>> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, >> >>>> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State >> Coordinator >> >>>> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> >>>the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> >>the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > Suzanne Andrews >> > [email protected] >> > Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives >> > Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator >> > for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, >> > and Powell counties, Montana >> > http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne Andrews [email protected] Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, and Powell counties, Montana http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

While having an automatic date change code is nice, the date changes each time it is uploaded whether there has been any change or not. I have seen CCs use this to get away with state update requirements in the past. I agree, if you take on a county, it should be to add data or assistance for researchers, it should not be to collect counties which in the past was an issue with a few peeps in the project. While we are at it, why don't we think about a few basic rules for MTGW? Aside from updating, requiring CC response within, say 96 hours of a contact and no self promotion for paid genealogical research? I know it takes a while in the sparsely populated counties of Montana but believe me, after a while you will get more queries as well as interaction from researchers. They seem hesitant to approach you at first but after some time, you are part of the county. Food for thought of course.... Karen On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > I definitely agree that we don't need dates on all pages of the website. <g> > > Shirley > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A What's New can be used for a variety of things including >> housekeeping, new interesting and useful links or the fact that a page >> on your site has been added to. I am going to start adding a date on >> pages when I work on them so eventually my sites will have dates on >> every page but I don't think that should be a requirement. >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Suzanne Andrews <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I like the idea of a "What's New" page. I'll have to think about that >> for my >> > pages--at least for my county. The other two counties I have might be a >> little >> > more difficult to come up with new things other than possible links. >> > Definitely a good idea tho! >> > >> > >> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:11 -0500 >> > Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Personally I feel that the reason many states in the USGenWeb have >> >> gone stagnant is because the project does not require periodic >> >> updating to county sites within the project. Some counties in the >> >> project, (not here), list a last update of 2008, which in my opinion >> >> is shameful. I don't think it is asking too much of a county >> >> coordinator to provide a minimum of two additional sources of >> >> genealogical information a year to our counties. I don't think an >> >> update date within 3 months is necessary but I do agree that there >> >> needs to be something added once every six months at minimum. In >> >> another project we are required to have a What's New page on which we >> >> list our additions. Not only does this make it easy for researchers >> >> to check new additions and promote people's return but it makes it >> >> easy for project members to see that the CC is active. >> >> >> >> Perhaps we could vote in some bare minimum requirements for our state >> >> project? I feel that this could only be a positive move for us! >> >> Karen >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >> >>wrote: >> >>> Correction...the USGenWeb does not have a requirement on updates to the >> >>> county websites. The paragraph from the Policies page is from the >> MTGenWeb >> >>> rules and is not part of the required elements but is "strongly >> >>> recommended". >> >>> >> >>> I don't think we need to require a "last update date" on all county >> >>> websites but would like to see the MTGenWeb add a requirement for sites >> >>> with a last update date to keep the date current. I personally like a 3 >> >>> month time frame but 6 months works too. <g> >> >>> >> >>> Please post your thoughts on this issue and let's discuss the pros and >> cons. >> >>> >> >>> Shirley >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Just a reminder that county websites must be updated at least twice a >> year >> >>>> per the USGenWeb requirements. Therefore the last update date on our >> >>>> websites should not be more than 6 months old. And according to the >> >>>> MTGenWeb Policies page, it is *suggested* that last update dates be >> >>>> "within a month or so" (see below). With those statements in mind, the >> >>>> County of Excellence rules will be updated. To be eligible for the >> MTGenWeb >> >>>> COE award, county websites that have a last update date on them must >> have >> >>>> dates that are no older than 6 months. >> >>>> >> >>>> I appreciate your assistance in making sure your county website is >> >>>> compliant with all rules. >> >>>> >> >>>> Shirley >> >>>> >> >>>> From the Policies page: >> >>>> 10.*IT IS ESSENTIAL* that your site be well-maintained and updated as >> >>>> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research >> >>>> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, >> etc., >> >>>> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, >> funeral >> >>>> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing >> reference >> >>>> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be >> >>>> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" >> >>>> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we >> find >> >>>> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, >> >>>> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State >> Coordinator >> >>>> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> >>>the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> >>the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > Suzanne Andrews >> > [email protected] >> > Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives >> > Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator >> > for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, >> > and Powell counties, Montana >> > http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yep, I too thought that could happen, but I would hope that our county coordinators would not do that. Why bother volunteering if they are not interested in helping researchers to their county find the resources they need to aid them in their search? I think a few new or updated basic rules would be helpful. On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 15:34:19 -0500 Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > While having an automatic date change code is nice, the date changes > each time it is uploaded whether there has been any change or not. I > have seen CCs use this to get away with state update requirements in > the past. I agree, if you take on a county, it should be to add data > or assistance for researchers, it should not be to collect counties > which in the past was an issue with a few peeps in the project. While > we are at it, why don't we think about a few basic rules for MTGW? > Aside from updating, requiring CC response within, say 96 hours of a > contact and no self promotion for paid genealogical research? I know > it takes a while in the sparsely populated counties of Montana but > believe me, after a while you will get more queries as well as > interaction from researchers. They seem hesitant to approach you at > first but after some time, you are part of the county. >Food for thought of course.... Karen > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >wrote: >> I definitely agree that we don't need dates on all pages of the website. <g> >> >> Shirley >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A What's New can be used for a variety of things including >>> housekeeping, new interesting and useful links or the fact that a page >>> on your site has been added to. I am going to start adding a date on >>> pages when I work on them so eventually my sites will have dates on >>> every page but I don't think that should be a requirement. >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Suzanne Andrews <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > I like the idea of a "What's New" page. I'll have to think about that >>> for my >>> > pages--at least for my county. The other two counties I have might be a >>> little >>> > more difficult to come up with new things other than possible links. >>> > Definitely a good idea tho! >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 14:09:11 -0500 >>> > Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Personally I feel that the reason many states in the USGenWeb have >>> >> gone stagnant is because the project does not require periodic >>> >> updating to county sites within the project. Some counties in the >>> >> project, (not here), list a last update of 2008, which in my opinion >>> >> is shameful. I don't think it is asking too much of a county >>> >> coordinator to provide a minimum of two additional sources of >>> >> genealogical information a year to our counties. I don't think an >>> >> update date within 3 months is necessary but I do agree that there >>> >> needs to be something added once every six months at minimum. In >>> >> another project we are required to have a What's New page on which we >>> >> list our additions. Not only does this make it easy for researchers >>> >> to check new additions and promote people's return but it makes it >>> >> easy for project members to see that the CC is active. >>> >> >>> >> Perhaps we could vote in some bare minimum requirements for our state >>> >> project? I feel that this could only be a positive move for us! >>> >> Karen >>> >> >>> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >>> >>wrote: >>> >>> Correction...the USGenWeb does not have a requirement on updates to the >>> >>> county websites. The paragraph from the Policies page is from the >>> MTGenWeb >>> >>> rules and is not part of the required elements but is "strongly >>> >>> recommended". >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't think we need to require a "last update date" on all county >>> >>> websites but would like to see the MTGenWeb add a requirement for sites >>> >>> with a last update date to keep the date current. I personally like a 3 >>> >>> month time frame but 6 months works too. <g> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please post your thoughts on this issue and let's discuss the pros and >>> cons. >>> >>> >>> >>> Shirley >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Just a reminder that county websites must be updated at least twice a >>> year >>> >>>> per the USGenWeb requirements. Therefore the last update date on our >>> >>>> websites should not be more than 6 months old. And according to the >>> >>>> MTGenWeb Policies page, it is *suggested* that last update dates be >>> >>>> "within a month or so" (see below). With those statements in mind, the >>> >>>> County of Excellence rules will be updated. To be eligible for the >>> MTGenWeb >>> >>>> COE award, county websites that have a last update date on them must >>> have >>> >>>> dates that are no older than 6 months. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I appreciate your assistance in making sure your county website is >>> >>>> compliant with all rules. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Shirley >>> >>>> >>> >>>> From the Policies page: >>> >>>> 10.*IT IS ESSENTIAL* that your site be well-maintained and updated as >>> >>>> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research >>> >>>> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, >>> etc., >>> >>>> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, >>> funeral >>> >>>> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing >>> reference >>> >>>> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be >>> >>>> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" >>> >>>> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we >>> find >>> >>>> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, >>> >>>> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State >>> Coordinator >>> >>>> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> >>>the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >>> >> ------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in >>> >>the subject and the body of the message >>> > >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > Suzanne Andrews >>> > [email protected] >>> > Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives >>> > Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator >>> > for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, >>> > and Powell counties, Montana >>> > http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm >>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> > >>> > ------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >>the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne Andrews [email protected] Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, and Powell counties, Montana http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~