I need to clarify the last sentence of my last message. It should have been: Some state projects even have a rule that any information on a county website may not be removed unless a request is made by the submitter. Shirley On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > First off, what you are referring to as rule 10, is actually a "strong > suggestion" and is not a requirement. My proposal is to make updating once > every 6 months and a last update date on the website a requirement. As > such, it would be listed in the "required" section of the MTGenWeb Policies > page. The "strongly suggested" #10 paragraph would not be modified. > > Second, the USGenWeb rules state that a CC has 14 days to correct a > problem before any action is taken. That means that the CC's have 14 days > from the time/date stamp on the email notifying them of a problem to > correct it. After the 14 day time period, the SC can de-link the county > website and remove the CC from the state's membership list if the problem > has not been resolved. I usually send a 2nd reminder after a week if the CC > hasn't replied to my email. Allowances are made for illness and other > issues but it is the CC's responsibility to respond to the SC's email and > explain the situation. > > In the instance of a CC who has abandoned a county website, you are > correct. They would not remove logos and that is when the SC files a > copyright infringement claim with the server where the website is housed. > > The website is considered to be owned by the CC but the contributed > information is contributed for use on the county website and should remain > with the county no matter who has control of the website.Therefore, > information is considered to be owned by the county or the state project. > Some state projects even have a rule that any information on a county > website may not be removed. > > Shirley > > > > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> My vote is still “No” but Karen’s reply is food for thought and opens >> further discussion. Nancy, Teton County >> >> Here goes: One official national rule is >> >> G. The state project shall have the responsibility to remove any links to >> websites which fail to meet The USGenWeb Project/XXGenWeb Project >> established guidelines/standards. >> >> >> >> Moving on to the MTGenWeb Project, our rule 10. says: >> >> IT IS ESSENTIAL that your site be well-maintained and updated as >> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research >> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, etc., >> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, funeral >> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing reference >> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be >> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" >> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we find >> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, >> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State Coordinator >> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. >> >> >> >> So here is the state coordinator’s nomination for a new rule: >> >> The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: >> >> >> >> All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months >> >> and must have the last update date on the website. >> >> >> >> >> >> So let’s have a discussion on where this possible new sentence will >> appear in the wording of our rules. Do we amend rule 10? >> >> >> >> Karen also suggested that delinking would occur with noncompliance, but >> we don’t have a due process rule for that. Does the SC give the CC a >> warning, a nag, three warnings, three nags? Also, if that CC has really >> abandoned the site, he or she would not bother to remove the official logos. >> >> >> >> And another thing, the national rule says, D. If a Local Coordinator can >> no longer perform their duties for any reason, those sections of the >> website submitted or donated by contributors other than the website >> coordinator, shall remain with the website, unless the >> submitter(s)/contributor(s) indicates otherwise. >> >> >> >> So the county website might not be “owned” completely by the CC. That’s >> another sticky wicket. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

First off, what you are referring to as rule 10, is actually a "strong suggestion" and is not a requirement. My proposal is to make updating once every 6 months and a last update date on the website a requirement. As such, it would be listed in the "required" section of the MTGenWeb Policies page. The "strongly suggested" #10 paragraph would not be modified. Second, the USGenWeb rules state that a CC has 14 days to correct a problem before any action is taken. That means that the CC's have 14 days from the time/date stamp on the email notifying them of a problem to correct it. After the 14 day time period, the SC can de-link the county website and remove the CC from the state's membership list if the problem has not been resolved. I usually send a 2nd reminder after a week if the CC hasn't replied to my email. Allowances are made for illness and other issues but it is the CC's responsibility to respond to the SC's email and explain the situation. In the instance of a CC who has abandoned a county website, you are correct. They would not remove logos and that is when the SC files a copyright infringement claim with the server where the website is housed. The website is considered to be owned by the CC but the contributed information is contributed for use on the county website and should remain with the county no matter who has control of the website.Therefore, information is considered to be owned by the county or the state project. Some state projects even have a rule that any information on a county website may not be removed. Shirley On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: > My vote is still “No” but Karen’s reply is food for thought and opens > further discussion. Nancy, Teton County > > Here goes: One official national rule is > > G. The state project shall have the responsibility to remove any links to > websites which fail to meet The USGenWeb Project/XXGenWeb Project > established guidelines/standards. > > > > Moving on to the MTGenWeb Project, our rule 10. says: > > IT IS ESSENTIAL that your site be well-maintained and updated as > frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research > resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, etc., > library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, funeral > homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing reference > books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be > checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" > changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we find > sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, > going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State Coordinator > would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. > > > > So here is the state coordinator’s nomination for a new rule: > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months > > and must have the last update date on the website. > > > > > > So let’s have a discussion on where this possible new sentence will appear > in the wording of our rules. Do we amend rule 10? > > > > Karen also suggested that delinking would occur with noncompliance, but we > don’t have a due process rule for that. Does the SC give the CC a warning, > a nag, three warnings, three nags? Also, if that CC has really abandoned > the site, he or she would not bother to remove the official logos. > > > > And another thing, the national rule says, D. If a Local Coordinator can > no longer perform their duties for any reason, those sections of the > website submitted or donated by contributors other than the website > coordinator, shall remain with the website, unless the > submitter(s)/contributor(s) indicates otherwise. > > > > So the county website might not be “owned” completely by the CC. That’s > another sticky wicket. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

You know, call me crazy (it's been done before), but am I the only person that considers my site to "belong" to the project?  Sure. I have spent my time and effort on it, but MTGenWeb gave me the core pages when I started.  But even if they hadn't, I still consider what I'm doing as work for this project.  If I leave, I want my work to carry on, and someone to build on it and make it that much better for those to come.  If I leave, it surely won't be to do Madison County somewhere else, so what would I do with those pages anyway?  And, I've put in a lot of time and effort on the USGenWeb Project that I wouldn't have done if I didn't think believe in it and want to see it be around for a long time to be a strong resource for new genealogists in the future. I will now take off my rose colored glasses and sit down. Jane >________________________________ > From: Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:49 AM >Subject: Re: [MTGEN] Delinking rule? > > >First off, what you are referring to as rule 10, is actually a "strong >suggestion" and is not a requirement. My proposal is to make updating once >every 6 months and a last update date on the website a requirement. As >such, it would be listed in the "required" section of the MTGenWeb Policies >page.  The "strongly suggested"  #10 paragraph would not be modified. > >Second, the USGenWeb rules state that a CC has 14 days to correct a problem >before any action is taken. That means that the CC's have 14 days from the >time/date stamp on the email notifying them of a problem to correct it. >After the 14 day time period, the SC can de-link the county website and >remove the CC from the state's membership list if the problem has not been >resolved. I usually send a 2nd reminder after a week if the CC hasn't >replied to my email. Allowances are made for illness and other issues but >it is the CC's responsibility to respond to the SC's email and explain the >situation. > >In the instance of a CC who has abandoned a county website, you are >correct. They would not remove logos and that is when the SC files a >copyright infringement claim with the server where the website is housed. > >The website is considered to be owned by the CC but the contributed >information is contributed for use on the county website and should remain >with the county no matter who has control of the website.Therefore, >information is considered to be owned by the county or the state project. >Some state projects even have a rule that any information on a county >website may not be removed. > >Shirley > > > > >On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> >wrote: > >> My vote is still “No” but Karen’s reply is food for thought and opens >> further discussion. Nancy, Teton County >> >> Here goes: One official national rule is >> >> G. The state project shall have the responsibility to remove any links to >> websites which fail to meet The USGenWeb Project/XXGenWeb Project >> established guidelines/standards. >> >> >> >> Moving on to the MTGenWeb Project, our rule 10. says: >> >> IT IS ESSENTIAL that your site be well-maintained and updated as >> frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research >> resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, etc., >> library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, funeral >> homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing reference >> books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be >> checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" >> changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we find >> sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, >> going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State Coordinator >> would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. >> >> >> >> So here is the state coordinator’s nomination for a new rule: >> >> The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: >> >> >> >> All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months >> >> and must have the last update date on the website. >> >> >> >> >> >> So let’s have a discussion on where this possible new sentence will appear >> in the wording of our rules. Do we amend rule 10? >> >> >> >> Karen also suggested that delinking would occur with noncompliance, but we >> don’t have a due process rule for that. Does the SC give the CC a warning, >> a nag, three warnings, three nags?  Also, if that CC has really abandoned >> the site, he or she would not bother to remove the official logos. >> >> >> >> And another thing, the national rule says, D. If a Local Coordinator can >> no longer perform their duties for any reason, those sections of the >> website submitted or donated by contributors other than the website >> coordinator, shall remain with the website, unless the >> submitter(s)/contributor(s) indicates otherwise. >> >> >> >> So the county website might not be “owned” completely by the CC. That’s >> another sticky wicket. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

My vote is still “No” but Karen’s reply is food for thought and opens further discussion. Nancy, Teton County Here goes: One official national rule is G. The state project shall have the responsibility to remove any links to websites which fail to meet The USGenWeb Project/XXGenWeb Project established guidelines/standards. Moving on to the MTGenWeb Project, our rule 10. says: IT IS ESSENTIAL that your site be well-maintained and updated as frequently as possible. Every site needs to have some basic research resources, i.e. Courthouse offices addresses, phone numbers, fees, etc., library, historical society, newspaper, cemetery names & addresses, funeral homes, etc. Many have also provided a bibliography page showing reference books available for their county and much more. Your site needs to be checked often for bad links, new ideas, etc., and the update "date" changed. We do check these and inquire of county coordinators if we find sites that have not been updated within a month or so. If you are ill, going on vacation, or having some temporary problems, the State Coordinator would like to know and, of course, we make exceptions for those times. So here is the state coordinator’s nomination for a new rule: The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months and must have the last update date on the website. So let’s have a discussion on where this possible new sentence will appear in the wording of our rules. Do we amend rule 10? Karen also suggested that delinking would occur with noncompliance, but we don’t have a due process rule for that. Does the SC give the CC a warning, a nag, three warnings, three nags? Also, if that CC has really abandoned the site, he or she would not bother to remove the official logos. And another thing, the national rule says, D. If a Local Coordinator can no longer perform their duties for any reason, those sections of the website submitted or donated by contributors other than the website coordinator, shall remain with the website, unless the submitter(s)/contributor(s) indicates otherwise. So the county website might not be “owned” completely by the CC. That’s another sticky wicket.

I vote yes! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 13, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well said, Karen. > > Shirley > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Nancy, >> If we have rules and a site is not brought in to compliance with the >> rules within a certain time period, the CC can be fired through >> delinking. Meaning the state site no longer lists that site as the >> official county site. It is not necessary to pursue a password >> because our sites are our own and as a member of the organization we >> are given the right of identifying ourselves as USGenWeb and MTGenWeb >> counties. Once a site is delinked they must remove both of those >> designations. There is no nagging involved. In another GenWeb >> organization I am involved with, we have much more stringent rules of >> performance. >> >> I am sorry to hear that you feel one new item in six months is >> excessive. It could be a photo, or an obit or something not too >> taxing although we all would love to add full transcriptions of >> something. Every tidbit helps make our sites better. I realize that >> Teton has amazing data and might not need to add transcriptions of >> anything but there are always little things that freshen our sites. >> >> I agree that broken links should be attended to as a first but "also" >> order. Everyone can download Xenu, which is a free link checker. It >> will save your eyes as well as time and tell you what links may have >> gone bad over time. This enables you to quickly find and correct >> broken links. I usually print out my report and then mark it off when >> it has been changed and uploaded. Xenu makes it simple for me. >> >> I don't think anyone wants to upset a fellow CC and I hope everyone >> will be looking at the every 6 months rules as a positive and they >> will take pride in their site. I know this discussion and rule has >> definitely got me fired up again. I was getting lazy. >> >> Best Regards, >> Karen >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I vote no on the 6 months requirement. >>> Nancy >>> Teton County >>> Reason: While I believe that our polices should have an update >>> requirement, I believe 6 months is too high a goal, especially after >>> viewing a sample of our websites today. One county hasn't seen any work >> in >>> nine years, and even our state page has bad links and out of date info. >>> >>> So once a year is better, I think. >>> >>> Added to that, we don't have a penalty for not checking for bad links, >>> except maybe nagging. What good is that? The other option is to put that >>> site in a fishbowl, point out the problems. Do we want the trouble of >>> getting the password and taking over the site? >>> >>> I urge our discussion to focus on a formal way of pointing out the bad >>> links and urging the webmasters to fix them, the goal being "current" >>> rather than "new stuff". This is genealogy, after all. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I vote Yes. Karolyn Simpson, Ravalli County > Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:25:23 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MTGEN] Voting Time Frame -Re: Requirement to Update > > Since some votes were sent in before noon, the voting period is amended to > "9:00 AM today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through noon, > June 27, 2014)." > > Shirley > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we > > need to vote on the issue. > > > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 > > months and must have the last update date on the website. > > > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for > > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen, you have some great points. One every 6 months is not asking for much. MANY CC's update daily or weekly. No patron likes to see stale sites, they are craving information. And most CC's would love to have a co-cc. I know I have some great ones that helps add information or sometimes bale me out when I am tight on time. I have found my best co-ccs just by putting in on the county mailing list. If you think you have run out of info to put online, put a request on the mailing list and beg for obits, photos anything to stir up interest in your county. Jane Keppler On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > Nancy, > If we have rules and a site is not brought in to compliance with the > rules within a certain time period, the CC can be fired through > delinking. Meaning the state site no longer lists that site as the > official county site. It is not necessary to pursue a password > because our sites are our own and as a member of the organization we > are given the right of identifying ourselves as USGenWeb and MTGenWeb > counties. Once a site is delinked they must remove both of those > designations. There is no nagging involved. In another GenWeb > organization I am involved with, we have much more stringent rules of > performance. > > I am sorry to hear that you feel one new item in six months is > excessive. It could be a photo, or an obit or something not too > taxing although we all would love to add full transcriptions of > something. Every tidbit helps make our sites better. I realize that > Teton has amazing data and might not need to add transcriptions of > anything but there are always little things that freshen our sites. > > I agree that broken links should be attended to as a first but "also" > order. Everyone can download Xenu, which is a free link checker. It > will save your eyes as well as time and tell you what links may have > gone bad over time. This enables you to quickly find and correct > broken links. I usually print out my report and then mark it off when > it has been changed and uploaded. Xenu makes it simple for me. > > I don't think anyone wants to upset a fellow CC and I hope everyone > will be looking at the every 6 months rules as a positive and they > will take pride in their site. I know this discussion and rule has > definitely got me fired up again. I was getting lazy. > > Best Regards, > Karen > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I vote no on the 6 months requirement. > > Nancy > > Teton County > > Reason: While I believe that our polices should have an update > > requirement, I believe 6 months is too high a goal, especially after > > viewing a sample of our websites today. One county hasn't seen any work > in > > nine years, and even our state page has bad links and out of date info. > > > > So once a year is better, I think. > > > > Added to that, we don't have a penalty for not checking for bad links, > > except maybe nagging. What good is that? The other option is to put that > > site in a fishbowl, point out the problems. Do we want the trouble of > > getting the password and taking over the site? > > > > I urge our discussion to focus on a formal way of pointing out the bad > > links and urging the webmasters to fix them, the goal being "current" > > rather than "new stuff". This is genealogy, after all. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Be on guard. Stand firm in the faith. Be courageous. Be strong. And do everything with love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16:13-14, NLT

Well said, Karen. Shirley On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > Nancy, > If we have rules and a site is not brought in to compliance with the > rules within a certain time period, the CC can be fired through > delinking. Meaning the state site no longer lists that site as the > official county site. It is not necessary to pursue a password > because our sites are our own and as a member of the organization we > are given the right of identifying ourselves as USGenWeb and MTGenWeb > counties. Once a site is delinked they must remove both of those > designations. There is no nagging involved. In another GenWeb > organization I am involved with, we have much more stringent rules of > performance. > > I am sorry to hear that you feel one new item in six months is > excessive. It could be a photo, or an obit or something not too > taxing although we all would love to add full transcriptions of > something. Every tidbit helps make our sites better. I realize that > Teton has amazing data and might not need to add transcriptions of > anything but there are always little things that freshen our sites. > > I agree that broken links should be attended to as a first but "also" > order. Everyone can download Xenu, which is a free link checker. It > will save your eyes as well as time and tell you what links may have > gone bad over time. This enables you to quickly find and correct > broken links. I usually print out my report and then mark it off when > it has been changed and uploaded. Xenu makes it simple for me. > > I don't think anyone wants to upset a fellow CC and I hope everyone > will be looking at the every 6 months rules as a positive and they > will take pride in their site. I know this discussion and rule has > definitely got me fired up again. I was getting lazy. > > Best Regards, > Karen > > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I vote no on the 6 months requirement. > > Nancy > > Teton County > > Reason: While I believe that our polices should have an update > > requirement, I believe 6 months is too high a goal, especially after > > viewing a sample of our websites today. One county hasn't seen any work > in > > nine years, and even our state page has bad links and out of date info. > > > > So once a year is better, I think. > > > > Added to that, we don't have a penalty for not checking for bad links, > > except maybe nagging. What good is that? The other option is to put that > > site in a fishbowl, point out the problems. Do we want the trouble of > > getting the password and taking over the site? > > > > I urge our discussion to focus on a formal way of pointing out the bad > > links and urging the webmasters to fix them, the goal being "current" > > rather than "new stuff". This is genealogy, after all. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy, If we have rules and a site is not brought in to compliance with the rules within a certain time period, the CC can be fired through delinking. Meaning the state site no longer lists that site as the official county site. It is not necessary to pursue a password because our sites are our own and as a member of the organization we are given the right of identifying ourselves as USGenWeb and MTGenWeb counties. Once a site is delinked they must remove both of those designations. There is no nagging involved. In another GenWeb organization I am involved with, we have much more stringent rules of performance. I am sorry to hear that you feel one new item in six months is excessive. It could be a photo, or an obit or something not too taxing although we all would love to add full transcriptions of something. Every tidbit helps make our sites better. I realize that Teton has amazing data and might not need to add transcriptions of anything but there are always little things that freshen our sites. I agree that broken links should be attended to as a first but "also" order. Everyone can download Xenu, which is a free link checker. It will save your eyes as well as time and tell you what links may have gone bad over time. This enables you to quickly find and correct broken links. I usually print out my report and then mark it off when it has been changed and uploaded. Xenu makes it simple for me. I don't think anyone wants to upset a fellow CC and I hope everyone will be looking at the every 6 months rules as a positive and they will take pride in their site. I know this discussion and rule has definitely got me fired up again. I was getting lazy. Best Regards, Karen On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: > I vote no on the 6 months requirement. > Nancy > Teton County > Reason: While I believe that our polices should have an update > requirement, I believe 6 months is too high a goal, especially after > viewing a sample of our websites today. One county hasn't seen any work in > nine years, and even our state page has bad links and out of date info. > > So once a year is better, I think. > > Added to that, we don't have a penalty for not checking for bad links, > except maybe nagging. What good is that? The other option is to put that > site in a fishbowl, point out the problems. Do we want the trouble of > getting the password and taking over the site? > > I urge our discussion to focus on a formal way of pointing out the bad > links and urging the webmasters to fix them, the goal being "current" > rather than "new stuff". This is genealogy, after all. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I vote no on the 6 months requirement. Nancy Teton County Reason: While I believe that our polices should have an update requirement, I believe 6 months is too high a goal, especially after viewing a sample of our websites today. One county hasn't seen any work in nine years, and even our state page has bad links and out of date info. So once a year is better, I think. Added to that, we don't have a penalty for not checking for bad links, except maybe nagging. What good is that? The other option is to put that site in a fishbowl, point out the problems. Do we want the trouble of getting the password and taking over the site? I urge our discussion to focus on a formal way of pointing out the bad links and urging the webmasters to fix them, the goal being "current" rather than "new stuff". This is genealogy, after all.

The time zone is CST since that is where I am located. <g> I would like a 72 hour response time requirement (with a provision for exceptions) as well. But that is another issue to be addressed at a later date. Shirley On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Karen De Groote <[email protected]> wrote: > I just voted but what time zone are we using? Mountain like Montana? > I would hope that we wouldn't need 2 weeks voting on this issue. I > would like to see a requirement to respond to project business and > questions asked set to a maximum of 72 hours unless you are on a > vacation or have some health reason that you cannot answer as the next > thing to discuss. > Thank you, > Karen > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Sara Cross <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Yes. > > On Jun 13, 2014 12:27 PM, "Shirley Cullum" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Since some votes were sent in before noon, the voting period is amended > to > >> "9:00 AM today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through > noon, > >> June 27, 2014)." > >> > >> Shirley > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we > >> > need to vote on the issue. > >> > > >> > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > >> > > >> > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 > >> > months and must have the last update date on the website. > >> > > >> > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so > >> that > >> > your votes are posted on the mail list. > >> > > >> > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue > for > >> > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). > >> > > >> > Shirley > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I just voted but what time zone are we using? Mountain like Montana? I would hope that we wouldn't need 2 weeks voting on this issue. I would like to see a requirement to respond to project business and questions asked set to a maximum of 72 hours unless you are on a vacation or have some health reason that you cannot answer as the next thing to discuss. Thank you, Karen On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Sara Cross <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. > On Jun 13, 2014 12:27 PM, "Shirley Cullum" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Since some votes were sent in before noon, the voting period is amended to >> "9:00 AM today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through noon, >> June 27, 2014)." >> >> Shirley >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we >> > need to vote on the issue. >> > >> > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: >> > >> > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 >> > months and must have the last update date on the website. >> > >> > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so >> that >> > your votes are posted on the mail list. >> > >> > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for >> > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). >> > >> > Shirley >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I vote a resounding yes! Karen On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been asked how I vote so for the record, I vote yes. <g> > > Shirley > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we >> need to vote on the issue. >> >> The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: >> >> All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 >> months and must have the last update date on the website. >> >> Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that >> your votes are posted on the mail list. >> >> The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for >> 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). >> >> Shirley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes. On Jun 13, 2014 12:27 PM, "Shirley Cullum" <[email protected]> wrote: > Since some votes were sent in before noon, the voting period is amended to > "9:00 AM today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through noon, > June 27, 2014)." > > Shirley > > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we > > need to vote on the issue. > > > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 > > months and must have the last update date on the website. > > > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so > that > > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for > > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > > > Shirley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Since some votes were sent in before noon, the voting period is amended to "9:00 AM today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through noon, June 27, 2014)." Shirley On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we > need to vote on the issue. > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 > months and must have the last update date on the website. > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > Shirley > > > > > > >

I have been asked how I vote so for the record, I vote yes. <g> Shirley On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we > need to vote on the issue. > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 > months and must have the last update date on the website. > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for > 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > Shirley > > > > > > >

I vote YESSSS!!!! Jane Keppler On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we need > to vote on the issue. > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months > and must have the last update date on the website. > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 > days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Be on guard. Stand firm in the faith. Be courageous. Be strong. And do everything with love. ~ 1 Corinthians 16:13-14, NLT

I vote yes on the requirement. Alicia Littlejohn On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we need > to vote on the issue. > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months > and must have the last update date on the website. > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 > days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we need to vote on the issue. The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months and must have the last update date on the website. Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that your votes are posted on the mail list. The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 days (through noon June 27, 2014). Shirley

I vote Yes! On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 09:04:26 -0500 Shirley Cullum <[email protected]> wrote: > After the discussion on a requirement for updating county websites, we need > to vote on the issue. > > The proposed new requirement for the MTGenWeb Project is: > > All MTGenWeb county websites must be updated at least once every 6 months > and must have the last update date on the website. > > Please vote yes or no on this proposed requirement. Just hit reply so that > your votes are posted on the mail list. > > The voting will begin at noon today, June 13, 2014 and will continue for 14 > days (through noon June 27, 2014). > > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne Andrews [email protected] Volunteer - Butte-Silver Bow Archives Volunteer - MTGenWeb County Coordinator for Butte-Silver Bow, Anaconda-Deer Lodge, and Powell counties, Montana http://www.mtgenweb.com/silverbow/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~