My 2 cents about the Crawfords. William H Crawford was a Methodist Minister, his father was Peter Crawford who had a sister Drucilla Crawford. Drucilla.s daughter is the 1st wife of my James Anderson Savage. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unger Unger Family genealogy http://personal.ayrix.net/~savage1/ Savage Family genealogy Christmas begins it and Easter completes it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Butler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [MSWINSTON] Adams Family | Hello, Stephanie, | | Please allow me to join this discussion about your Adams family. I am | wondering if there is any connection between your Adams family and the | Butler or Crawford families. Just two houses away in household 241, is my | great great grandfather James M. Butler and his family. Please note that | some indexes and the Kathryn Hathcock transcription report this as the | "Button" family but the original census images clearly show "Butler". James | M. Butler's wife was Sarah Crawford and she was born in SC. In the next | house (240) is the family of John Brice Crawford, also born in SC. These | two families moved to Winston Co. between 1841 and 1846 according to the | birthplaces of their children. The Butler family left between 1852 and 1854 | following Sarah's death. I don't know how John Brice Crawford and Sarah | Crawford are related. | | Peter Crawford is another Crawford family that was living in Winston Co. at | this time. His wife Elizabeth Loveless was born in Newberry Co. SC in 1794. | This is getting close to Union Co. SC. | | What do you think of a possible connection here? | | Jerry | | Jerry L. Butler | Winston Co. MSGenWeb | www.rootsweb.com/~mswinsto/ | | -----Original Message----- | From: Stephanie Cecil [mailto:[email protected]] | Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:13 PM | To: [email protected] | Subject: [MSWINSTON] Re: Winston County, MS | | Re: My Adams family? | > 1850 Winston Co., MS | > 9-9-1850, pg. 333A | > 243-246 | > Quincy Adams, 25, farmer, SC [probably died in the war] | > Milly Adams, 19, SC [according to her stone she was 24] | > Mary Adams, 1, MS | | Thanks Barbara,Frances and Val too, for your responses. | | Louis, as you can see above this couple was b. SC. | They also apparently returned to SC, [see below]Union County | just above Columbia and later moved to Spartanburg County | to the west on the NC line. | | I believe that the daughter Mary is Adolphia Adams, wife of | Gist Wright living in Union County SC in 1880 census, | [They live in Spartanburg Co next to Bettie in 1900-1910] | and that her sister Florence Adams was b. in MS about 1850 | [she probably was dead before 1900] | but after that the family must have gone back to SC, as all | the other children [Bettie, 1853,Glenn 1856, Antonia 1858, | Emma 1860, John Q.[my grandpa] 1862, and Henrietta 1864] | were said b. SC. in the 1870 census. | | I realize that this is POSSIBLY NOT the same family but I | do believe it is, because of the note that Florence in 1880 | is said "b.Miss". | Also, in the Landrum Cemetery in Spartanburg Co SC is | buried "Milly Ann Adams, w/o Q. B. b. 1826 d. 1897" | Below are the census listings I believe pertain to this family. | I also realize that you may not have much [or anything] | on them as it appears they were not in Winston County after | 1852 or so and I have no idea when they arrived there. | Thanks anyway for any help.....and, Barbara have a good Adams | reunion. | I look forward to the day when I can connect to my | Grandfather's Adams family and his mother's [ Milly Ann's] | family as well. | regards. | Steph Powell Cecil [email protected] | | <<1860 Unionville, Union Co., SC | 6-27-1860, handwritten pg. #58 | 491-421 | R. R. (B?) Adams, 33, Farmer, SC[ difficult to read initials] | Millyan Adams, 33, SC | Mary Adams, 11, SC [If I am correct these two girls, Mary/Adolphia | Amanda Adams, 9, SC and Amanda/Florence were actually born in MS] | Elizabeth Adams, 7, SC [Bettie] | Glenn Adams, 6, SC [ Glenn who disappeared] | Susan Adams, 5, SC [Antonia?] | John Adams, 3, SC [ If it's Grandpa he's older than we thought] | Mintha Adams, 1, SC [ Emma?] >>>> | | The same family ten years later??? | this is definitely my Grandpa's family. | | <<1870 Union Township, Union Co., SC | 8-6-1870, pg. 556A | 294-310 | Mary Adams, 40, keeping house, SC [no father, lost in the war?] | Florence Adams, 19, SC [b.MS, sister Adolphia is married] | Bettie Adams, 15, SC, at school | Glenn Adams, 13, SC,at school | Antonia Adams, 11, SC, at school | Emma Adams, 9, SC, at home | Johnny Adams, 7, SC, at home | Henrietta Adams, 5, at home>>>>> | | <<1880 Spartanburg, ED 149, Spartanburg Co., SC | 6-3-1880, pg. 384B, pg. 385A | 51-53 | Ann M. Adams, 54, Widowed, housekeeping, SC SC SC | Florence Adams, 29, single daughter, consumption, Miss, SC SC | Bettie J. Adams, 26, single daughter, SC SC SC | Antonia Adams, 22, single daughter, laborer, SC SC SC | Emma Adams, 22, single daughter, SC SC SC | John Q. Adams, 21, single son, SC SC SC>> | | | | ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== | Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful | site | http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html | | ============================== | Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. | New content added every business day. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx | | | | ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== | Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site | http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. 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Jim, Your file shows an Ephraim Butler born 22 April 1809 and buried in Webb, MS. Ephram and Moses H. Butler both received land patents in Winston Co. MS in 1841. Is your Ephraim the same as my Ephram? Do you know anything more about these Butler's? Thanks, Jerry Jerry L. Butler Winston Co. MSGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~mswinsto/ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Savage [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Adams Family My 2 cents about the Crawfords. William H Crawford was a Methodist Minister, his father was Peter Crawford who had a sister Drucilla Crawford. Drucilla.s daughter is the 1st wife of my James Anderson Savage. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unger Unger Family genealogy http://personal.ayrix.net/~savage1/ Savage Family genealogy Christmas begins it and Easter completes it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry L. Butler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: [MSWINSTON] Adams Family | Hello, Stephanie, | | Please allow me to join this discussion about your Adams family. I am | wondering if there is any connection between your Adams family and the | Butler or Crawford families. Just two houses away in household 241, is my | great great grandfather James M. Butler and his family. Please note that | some indexes and the Kathryn Hathcock transcription report this as the | "Button" family but the original census images clearly show "Butler". James | M. Butler's wife was Sarah Crawford and she was born in SC. In the next | house (240) is the family of John Brice Crawford, also born in SC. These | two families moved to Winston Co. between 1841 and 1846 according to the | birthplaces of their children. The Butler family left between 1852 and 1854 | following Sarah's death. I don't know how John Brice Crawford and Sarah | Crawford are related. | | Peter Crawford is another Crawford family that was living in Winston Co. at | this time. His wife Elizabeth Loveless was born in Newberry Co. SC in 1794. | This is getting close to Union Co. SC. | | What do you think of a possible connection here? | | Jerry | | Jerry L. Butler | Winston Co. MSGenWeb | www.rootsweb.com/~mswinsto/ | | -----Original Message----- | From: Stephanie Cecil [mailto:[email protected]] | Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:13 PM | To: [email protected] | Subject: [MSWINSTON] Re: Winston County, MS | | Re: My Adams family? | > 1850 Winston Co., MS | > 9-9-1850, pg. 333A | > 243-246 | > Quincy Adams, 25, farmer, SC [probably died in the war] | > Milly Adams, 19, SC [according to her stone she was 24] | > Mary Adams, 1, MS | | Thanks Barbara,Frances and Val too, for your responses. | | Louis, as you can see above this couple was b. SC. | They also apparently returned to SC, [see below]Union County | just above Columbia and later moved to Spartanburg County | to the west on the NC line. | | I believe that the daughter Mary is Adolphia Adams, wife of | Gist Wright living in Union County SC in 1880 census, | [They live in Spartanburg Co next to Bettie in 1900-1910] | and that her sister Florence Adams was b. in MS about 1850 | [she probably was dead before 1900] | but after that the family must have gone back to SC, as all | the other children [Bettie, 1853,Glenn 1856, Antonia 1858, | Emma 1860, John Q.[my grandpa] 1862, and Henrietta 1864] | were said b. SC. in the 1870 census. | | I realize that this is POSSIBLY NOT the same family but I | do believe it is, because of the note that Florence in 1880 | is said "b.Miss". | Also, in the Landrum Cemetery in Spartanburg Co SC is | buried "Milly Ann Adams, w/o Q. B. b. 1826 d. 1897" | Below are the census listings I believe pertain to this family. | I also realize that you may not have much [or anything] | on them as it appears they were not in Winston County after | 1852 or so and I have no idea when they arrived there. | Thanks anyway for any help.....and, Barbara have a good Adams | reunion. | I look forward to the day when I can connect to my | Grandfather's Adams family and his mother's [ Milly Ann's] | family as well. | regards. | Steph Powell Cecil [email protected] | | <<1860 Unionville, Union Co., SC | 6-27-1860, handwritten pg. #58 | 491-421 | R. R. (B?) Adams, 33, Farmer, SC[ difficult to read initials] | Millyan Adams, 33, SC | Mary Adams, 11, SC [If I am correct these two girls, Mary/Adolphia | Amanda Adams, 9, SC and Amanda/Florence were actually born in MS] | Elizabeth Adams, 7, SC [Bettie] | Glenn Adams, 6, SC [ Glenn who disappeared] | Susan Adams, 5, SC [Antonia?] | John Adams, 3, SC [ If it's Grandpa he's older than we thought] | Mintha Adams, 1, SC [ Emma?] >>>> | | The same family ten years later??? | this is definitely my Grandpa's family. | | <<1870 Union Township, Union Co., SC | 8-6-1870, pg. 556A | 294-310 | Mary Adams, 40, keeping house, SC [no father, lost in the war?] | Florence Adams, 19, SC [b.MS, sister Adolphia is married] | Bettie Adams, 15, SC, at school | Glenn Adams, 13, SC,at school | Antonia Adams, 11, SC, at school | Emma Adams, 9, SC, at home | Johnny Adams, 7, SC, at home | Henrietta Adams, 5, at home>>>>> | | <<1880 Spartanburg, ED 149, Spartanburg Co., SC | 6-3-1880, pg. 384B, pg. 385A | 51-53 | Ann M. 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