Mr. Savage: I see that you were provided earlier today with the Savage names from Betheden Cemetery, but here is further information linking them to your lineage. Mrs. Pauline Sloan Savage of Brooksville will be buried tomorrow beside her husband Bennie Savage, Sr. (1921-1983) in the cemetery at Betheden Lutheran Church in northeastern Winston County. Also buried in Betheden Cemetery are Bennie's brother Ozie Savage, Sr., and their parents Walter L. Savage (1890-1967) and Ina Weeks Savage (1887-1969). Ina was my father's first cousin, the daughter of Hiram Bragg Weeks (1862-1950) and Mary Lula Roach Weeks (1866-1943) of northern Winston County, who are buried in the cemetery at Bethel Methodist Church in southwestern Oktibbeha County. Walter's parents were John S. Savage (1869-1950) and Lula Hall Savage (1876-1959), and his grandparents were John F. Savage (1847-1916) and Anjaline Bufkin Savage (1845-1914). All lived in northern Winston County, and all are buried in Bethel Cemetery. John F. Savage, as you know, was the son of James Anderson Savage (1825-1884) and the grandson of John S. Savage (died 1847) who are buried in the cemetery at Pleasant Hill Methodist Church in north central Winston County. Billy Weeks

Savage names at Betheden Cemetery, Winston Co, MS Savage, Bennie, Sr Ina Ozie F., Sr. Pauline Walter L.

Obit in today's newspaper said this lady was buried in Betheden Cemetery near Louisville. I am wondering if anyone has listings for this cemetery that would provide the names of other Savages buried there. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unger Unger Family genealogy http://personal.ayrix.net/~savage1/ Savage Family genealogy Christmas begins it and Easter completes it

Louis, I've written to you several times over the years regarding my family (John McElroy, b 1807 Ga; d MS 1876). I will for the 1st time be able to do some research in both Henry Country Georgia and I will be arriving in Louisville on the evening of October 3rd (Monday night) and would like to get into the records for Winston County on Tuesday, October 4th for the basic period of 1840-1890-ish. I would like to find birth, marriage, wills and death records along with land records, deeds, etc... If I have enough time. If not, I might be able to come back later on in October. Where do I go and where are the records kept? Name & Address of the person & building I need to contact. Just in case I am a day late Can I get a phone number to make an appointment for that Tuesday? We have been living and working in Saudi Arabia since 1977 and will be on vacation during October, so I need to make good use of my time while I'm able to do so. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Tom Tom McElroy Drilling & Work Over Services Dept. / MAFU Tel.: 876-4770

Hi Tom I noticed your post and would love to find out more about John McELROY 1807-1876 as I am researching John C MCELROY born about 1838 , who , I am told , is his son by Frances HOUSTON. John C MCELROY married Priscilla SHIVERS in 1864 in Winston Co MS. Molly -----Original Message----- From: Mcelroy, Tom L [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 8:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] Winston County Record 1840-1890-ish; John McElroy Louis, I've written to you several times over the years regarding my family (John McElroy, b 1807 Ga; d MS 1876). I will for the 1st time be able to do some research in both Henry Country Georgia and I will be arriving in Louisville on the evening of October 3rd (Monday night) and would like to get into the records for Winston County on Tuesday, October 4th for the basic period of 1840-1890-ish. I would like to find birth, marriage, wills and death records along with land records, deeds, etc... If I have enough time. If not, I might be able to come back later on in October. Where do I go and where are the records kept? Name & Address of the person & building I need to contact. Just in case I am a day late Can I get a phone number to make an appointment for that Tuesday? We have been living and working in Saudi Arabia since 1977 and will be on vacation during October, so I need to make good use of my time while I'm able to do so. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks Tom Tom McElroy Drilling & Work Over Services Dept. / MAFU Tel.: 876-4770 ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the MSWINSTON list, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

Thanks, Vickye!

Jerry I am not sure how to answer this. I have wrong information out there. I would like folks to be aware of this and correct it. I once had a website with this information on it. Kay Rockett also had this information and others. It has now been proven wrong. I just want folks to be aware this is a error. Eliza Jane McELVANY did marry "a" J. E. SHAW on 4 December 1892 in Choctaw County, MS. But not the J. E. Shaw found below. I had J. E. (James Emery Shaw) as my gg-grandfather the son of James and Jane BAGWELL SHAW called "Blind Jim" born abt 1829 in Shelby County, Alabama died after 1900. This is not correct. I would like those that have copied my work to know this. Thank you, Vickye White

Thanks, Vickye, I now understand what you are saying. Thanks! Jerry Jerry L. Butler Winston Co. MSGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~mswinsto/ -----Original Message----- From: Vickye White [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] MCELVANY-SHAW MARRIAGE Jerry I am not sure how to answer this. I have wrong information out there. I would like folks to be aware of this and correct it. I once had a website with this information on it. Kay Rockett also had this information and others. It has now been proven wrong. I just want folks to be aware this is a error. Eliza Jane McELVANY did marry "a" J. E. SHAW on 4 December 1892 in Choctaw County, MS. But not the J. E. Shaw found below. I had J. E. (James Emery Shaw) as my gg-grandfather the son of James and Jane BAGWELL SHAW called "Blind Jim" born abt 1829 in Shelby County, Alabama died after 1900. This is not correct. I would like those that have copied my work to know this. Thank you, Vickye White ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== List Mom for MSWINSTON-L: Diana Boothe [email protected] ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Hello, Vickye, Thanks for the information. Can you please tell us what you are asking to correct? Is this the Winston Co. MSGenWeb site? If so, can you please tell me which page has the incorrect information? Thanks, Jerry Jerry L. Butler Winston Co. MSGenWeb www.rootsweb.com/~mswinsto/ -----Original Message----- From: Vickye White [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] CORRECTION ON MCELVANY-SHAW MARRIAGE Those of you that have in-put J. E. SHAW son of James and Jane SHAW married to Eliza Jane McELVANY daughter of John T. and Malinda McELVANY. Please remove the son of James and Jane SHAW this is the wrong SHAW PARENTS. I am hunting the correct parents to J. E. SHAW. I hope it doesn't take another 8 years to find him! The marriage date is correct and J. E. SHAW is correct. It just isn't "blind Jim son of James and Jane". I have the marriage document so the rest is correct. Thank you, Vickye White 3477 N. FM 1212 Stanton, TX 79782 "We are in Iraq to save Iraq from the Iraqis". Please visit a favorite website: http://www.civilwar.org/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcottle/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txking/ Michelle's Website: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2447/mainpage.html T PHOTOGRAPHY: http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?storefront?b=1&c=05W6 Texas House Plans http://www.texashouseplans.com/homepage.htm "Patriotism means to stand by the country, it does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official..." Theodore Roosevelt ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== USGS Mapping Information query form http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Those of you that have in-put J. E. SHAW son of James and Jane SHAW married to Eliza Jane McELVANY daughter of John T. and Malinda McELVANY. Please remove the son of James and Jane SHAW this is the wrong SHAW PARENTS. I am hunting the correct parents to J. E. SHAW. I hope it doesn't take another 8 years to find him! The marriage date is correct and J. E. SHAW is correct. It just isn't "blind Jim son of James and Jane". I have the marriage document so the rest is correct. Thank you, Vickye White 3477 N. FM 1212 Stanton, TX 79782 "We are in Iraq to save Iraq from the Iraqis". Please visit a favorite website: http://www.civilwar.org/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txcottle/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~txking/ Michelle's Website: http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Park/2447/mainpage.html T PHOTOGRAPHY: http://www.photoreflect.com/scripts/prsm.dll?storefront?b=1&c=05W6 Texas House Plans http://www.texashouseplans.com/homepage.htm "Patriotism means to stand by the country, it does not mean to stand by the President or any other public official..." Theodore Roosevelt

Harriette, Those names do not ring a bell. I don't have much info on the ones (other than my direct line) that would be the age to be William "Billy" Miller's generation. Thanks, George Stuart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] Hames/Haimes Family of Winston County, MS From: [email protected] Subject: Hames/Haimes of Winston County (Ludie Miller Haimes) Subject: Ludie Miller Haimes (6/30/1881-1/17/1959) The information I currently have on Ludie Miller Haimes is the date of her marriage on Sept. 20, 1908 to C. D. (Babe) Haimes. Two of their daughters Irene and Grace are still living, so I was able to get the following info from them. Parents of Ludie Miller Haimes were William (Billy) Miller and Mary Ellis Miller, who had the following children: Ten girls were Eva, Mae (the oldest), Myrtle, Stella, Tula, Nola, Fannie, Belle, Mamie, and Louvada (Ludie); Three boys were Kelsey (Kelsie), Russia, and Fletcher. Many of the Millers lived in the Eupora area. Ludie was also a cousin of Ahaz (Ake) Ellis, whose brother Noah had a store in Mathiston for many years. Hope this info helps. Harriette Mastin, Vicksburg, MS 39180 ___________________________________________________ Who were the parents of Louvada "Ludie" Miller? Seaborn Jones Miller (1822-1900) from Plattsburg, Winston Co., MS was my GG-Grandfather. His Uncle Abraham "Abram" Miller also lived in Winston County. There may have been others of this Miller family in Winston County also. George Stuart _________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] Hames/Haimes Family of Winston County, MS I am interested in tracing the family of Samuel E. Hames (11/07/1823-6/25/1901) and Lettie Frances Long Hames (3/29/1831-6/11/1908), who homesteaded in Winston County, Mississippi, not long after their marriage in Georgia on Oct. 9, 1856. Their children were Frances Cordelia (Cordie) Haimes who married H. Carr and lived in Ackerman; Robert Boyd Haimes who married first Allie N. Porter and then Ina Green; John William (Jake) Haimes who did not marry; Cleophas Decalb (Babe) Haimes who married first Mary Etta (Mollye) West and then Louvada (Ludie) Miller; Jefferson (Jeff) Davis Haimes who married Ida Wallace; and Mary Virginia (Vergie) Haimes who married Thomas Alexander Price and lived in Philadelphia. I am looking for any of the descendants of these six. Thank you. ~Harriette Price Mastin (daughter of Annie Mae Haimes Price & granddaughter of C.D. Haimes), Vicksburg, MS ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005 ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.3.0 - Release Date: 5/30/2005

From: [email protected] Subject: Hames/Haimes of Winston County (Ludie Miller Haimes) Subject: Ludie Miller Haimes (6/30/1881-1/17/1959) The information I currently have on Ludie Miller Haimes is the date of her marriage on Sept. 20, 1908 to C. D. (Babe) Haimes. Two of their daughters Irene and Grace are still living, so I was able to get the following info from them. Parents of Ludie Miller Haimes were William (Billy) Miller and Mary Ellis Miller, who had the following children: Ten girls were Eva, Mae (the oldest), Myrtle, Stella, Tula, Nola, Fannie, Belle, Mamie, and Louvada (Ludie); Three boys were Kelsey (Kelsie), Russia, and Fletcher. Many of the Millers lived in the Eupora area. Ludie was also a cousin of Ahaz (Ake) Ellis, whose brother Noah had a store in Mathiston for many years. Hope this info helps. Harriette Mastin, Vicksburg, MS 39180 ___________________________________________________ Who were the parents of Louvada "Ludie" Miller? Seaborn Jones Miller (1822-1900) from Plattsburg, Winston Co., MS was my GG-Grandfather. His Uncle Abraham "Abram" Miller also lived in Winston County. There may have been others of this Miller family in Winston County also. George Stuart _________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] Hames/Haimes Family of Winston County, MS I am interested in tracing the family of Samuel E. Hames (11/07/1823-6/25/1901) and Lettie Frances Long Hames (3/29/1831-6/11/1908), who homesteaded in Winston County, Mississippi, not long after their marriage in Georgia on Oct. 9, 1856. Their children were Frances Cordelia (Cordie) Haimes who married H. Carr and lived in Ackerman; Robert Boyd Haimes who married first Allie N. Porter and then Ina Green; John William (Jake) Haimes who did not marry; Cleophas Decalb (Babe) Haimes who married first Mary Etta (Mollye) West and then Louvada (Ludie) Miller; Jefferson (Jeff) Davis Haimes who married Ida Wallace; and Mary Virginia (Vergie) Haimes who married Thomas Alexander Price and lived in Philadelphia. I am looking for any of the descendants of these six. Thank you. ~Harriette Price Mastin (daughter of Annie Mae Haimes Price & granddaughter of C.D. Haimes), Vicksburg, MS ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005

Subject: Ludie Miller Haimes (6/30/1881-1/17/1959) The information I currently have on Ludie Miller Haimes is the date of her marriage on Sept. 20, 1908 to C. D. (Babe) Haimes. Two of their daughters Irene and Grace are still living, so I was able to get the following info from them. Parents of Ludie Miller Haimes were William (Billy) Miller and Mary Ellis Miller, who had the following children: Ten girls were Eva, Mae (the oldest), Myrtle, Stella, Tula, Nola, Fannie, Belle, Mamie, and Louvada (Ludie); Three boys were Kelsey (Kelsie), Russia, and Fletcher. Many of the Millers lived in the Eupora area. Ludie was also a cousin of Ahaz (Ake) Ellis, whose brother Noah had a store in Mathiston for many years. Hope this info helps. Harriette Mastin

Who were the parents of Louvada "Ludie" Miller? Seaborn Jones Miller (1822-1900) from Plattsburg, Winston Co., MS was my GG-Grandfather. His Uncle Abraham "Abram" Miller also lived in Winston County. There may have been others of this Miller family in Winston County also. George Stuart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSWINSTON] Hames/Haimes Family of Winston County, MS I am interested in tracing the family of Samuel E. Hames (11/07/1823-6/25/1901) and Lettie Frances Long Hames (3/29/1831-6/11/1908), who homesteaded in Winston County, Mississippi, not long after their marriage in Georgia on Oct. 9, 1856. Their children were Frances Cordelia (Cordie) Haimes who married H. Carr and lived in Ackerman; Robert Boyd Haimes who married first Allie N. Porter and then Ina Green; John William (Jake) Haimes who did not marry; Cleophas Decalb (Babe) Haimes who married first Mary Etta (Mollye) West and then Louvada (Ludie) Miller; Jefferson (Jeff) Davis Haimes who married Ida Wallace; and Mary Virginia (Vergie) Haimes who married Thomas Alexander Price and lived in Philadelphia. I am looking for any of the descendants of these six. Thank you. ~Harriette Price Mastin (daughter of Annie Mae Haimes Price, granddaughter of C.D. Haimes), Vicksburg, MS ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 5/22/2005

I am interested in tracing the family of Samuel E. Hames (11/07/1823-6/25/1901) and Lettie Frances Long Hames (3/29/1831-6/11/1908), who homesteaded in Winston County, Mississippi, not long after their marriage in Georgia on Oct. 9, 1856. Their children were Frances Cordelia (Cordie) Haimes who married H. Carr and lived in Ackerman; Robert Boyd Haimes who married first Allie N. Porter and then Ina Green; John William (Jake) Haimes who did not marry; Cleophas Decalb (Babe) Haimes who married first Mary Etta (Mollye) West and then Louvada (Ludie) Miller; Jefferson (Jeff) Davis Haimes who married Ida Wallace; and Mary Virginia (Vergie) Haimes who married Thomas Alexander Price and lived in Philadelphia. I am looking for any of the descendants of these six. Thank you. ~Harriette Price Mastin (daughter of Annie Mae Haimes Price, granddaughter of C.D. Haimes), Vicksburg, MS

Thanks, could be a clue Jim http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unger Unger Family genealogy http://personal.ayrix.net/~savage1/ Savage Family genealogy Christmas begins it and Easter completes it ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Re: MSWINSTON-D Digest V05 #25 | Jim: Did not find anything in the records I have at home....Did find a | Virginia Frances Burton b. 9-10-1817 as a child of William B. Burton & Ann Gilbert | Hughes....Peggy | | | ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== | We have archives! Search for your MSWINSTON information here..... | http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=MSWINSTON | | ============================== | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx | |

Jim: Did not find anything in the records I have at home....Did find a Virginia Frances Burton b. 9-10-1817 as a child of William B. Burton & Ann Gilbert Hughes....Peggy

Peggy, How about a check for a wedding between Virginia Burton and a J.R.Dement sometime 1880-1892.probably in Washington County. Jim http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unger Unger Family genealogy http://personal.ayrix.net/~savage1/ Savage Family genealogy Christmas begins it and Easter completes it ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Re: MSWINSTON-D Digest V05 #25 | What Shields names are you looking for in Winston Co. Will do a marriage | lookup for specific Shields names....Peggy | | | ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== | List Mom for MSWINSTON-L: | Diana Boothe [email protected] | | ============================== | New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 |

What Shields names are you looking for in Winston Co. Will do a marriage lookup for specific Shields names....Peggy

Sara Thomas Shields married Benjamin Shepherd and relocated to the Mississippi Delta, She had been married before,,,to a osborne I think? But he past away.