Did I reply to your email?? I think I did. I have a lot of Lovorn information. Holly --- [email protected] wrote: > Well, I didn't have much on the Lovorn line until I received this a > bit ago. > Henry Clark is my Uncle and his older brother William Frank Clark > married a > Lydia Lovorn. I would need to ask my Mom if Lydia was Ollie Mae's > sister or > cousin. > > > > Book: WINSTON COUNTY And Its PEOPLE > Copyrighted 1980 by The Winston County Genealogical and Historical > Society > Louisville, MS 39339 > Compiled by Nancy Randolph Parkes (she is deceased now) > > pg 39 > Ollie Mae Lovorn Clark > Ollie Mae Lovorn, eighth child of William Hughes and Maggie Lovorn > was > born October 10, 1910; married Henry Clark. Ollie Mae died November > 8, 1964, and > is buried in Detroit, Michigan. (Henry Gilbert Clark d. 4 June 1971) > > Children are: > 1. Jay, b. Aug 1, 1927;(this must be J.W.) > married June 26, 1948 to Joyce (b. March 10,1929) > Children are: > a. Cynthia, b. Jan 23, 1949 > Children are 1. Melissa, b. Mar 17, 1969 > 2. Angel b. Sep 24, 1972 > b. Cathy, b. March 26, 1950 > Children are 1. Nicole, b. Feb 7, 1970 > 2. Emmett, Jr., b. Apr 4, 1972 > c. Carol, b. Dec 5, 1964 > d. John, b. Nov 11, 1952 > e. Jayson, b. July 22, 1966 > > 2. Marilyn, b. Jun 6 1937; > married Sep 7, 1957 to Edward Rayba (b. Apr 24, 1935/6) > > Children of Marily and Edward are: > a. Mary Louise, b. Apr 17, 1960 > b. Diana, b. March 7, 1962 > c. Bethanne, b. Apr 15, 1966 > d. Cheryl, b. Dec 18, 1967. > > For whatever reason, this book doesn't list the first daughter, > MaryLou (Mary > Louise) > b. 18 July 1930 & d. 31 Aug. 1933. She is buried at Kellis Store in > the Clark > line. > > Italics are my notes - gnanse nelson > > > ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.delphi.com/navnet/legends/legends.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

It will take me a few days to get to my files. BUT I feel certain that we connect and I will be able to help you. What I would like to do is add your line to my records down through you and your children's generations. I am trying to connect all the LOVORN/LOVERNs as I can, quite a few of Us descend from the three brothers who settled in Ms. So I am guessing here. Hughes sound sooo familiar. your line is either from one of my grandfathers brother's or from one of his Uncles. Thank you Holly --- [email protected] wrote: > Well, I didn't have much on the Lovorn line until I received this a > bit ago. > Henry Clark is my Uncle and his older brother William Frank Clark > married a > Lydia Lovorn. I would need to ask my Mom if Lydia was Ollie Mae's > sister or > cousin. > > > > Book: WINSTON COUNTY And Its PEOPLE > Copyrighted 1980 by The Winston County Genealogical and Historical > Society > Louisville, MS 39339 > Compiled by Nancy Randolph Parkes (she is deceased now) > > pg 39 > Ollie Mae Lovorn Clark > Ollie Mae Lovorn, eighth child of William Hughes and Maggie Lovorn > was > born October 10, 1910; married Henry Clark. Ollie Mae died November > 8, 1964, and > is buried in Detroit, Michigan. (Henry Gilbert Clark d. 4 June 1971) > > Children are: > 1. Jay, b. Aug 1, 1927;(this must be J.W.) > married June 26, 1948 to Joyce (b. March 10,1929) > Children are: > a. Cynthia, b. Jan 23, 1949 > Children are 1. Melissa, b. Mar 17, 1969 > 2. Angel b. Sep 24, 1972 > b. Cathy, b. March 26, 1950 > Children are 1. Nicole, b. Feb 7, 1970 > 2. Emmett, Jr., b. Apr 4, 1972 > c. Carol, b. Dec 5, 1964 > d. John, b. Nov 11, 1952 > e. Jayson, b. July 22, 1966 > > 2. Marilyn, b. Jun 6 1937; > married Sep 7, 1957 to Edward Rayba (b. Apr 24, 1935/6) > > Children of Marily and Edward are: > a. Mary Louise, b. Apr 17, 1960 > b. Diana, b. March 7, 1962 > c. Bethanne, b. Apr 15, 1966 > d. Cheryl, b. Dec 18, 1967. > > For whatever reason, this book doesn't list the first daughter, > MaryLou (Mary > Louise) > b. 18 July 1930 & d. 31 Aug. 1933. She is buried at Kellis Store in > the Clark > line. > > Italics are my notes - gnanse nelson > > > ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.delphi.com/navnet/legends/legends.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Well, I didn't have much on the Lovorn line until I received this a bit ago. Henry Clark is my Uncle and his older brother William Frank Clark married a Lydia Lovorn. I would need to ask my Mom if Lydia was Ollie Mae's sister or cousin. Book: WINSTON COUNTY And Its PEOPLE Copyrighted 1980 by The Winston County Genealogical and Historical Society Louisville, MS 39339 Compiled by Nancy Randolph Parkes (she is deceased now) pg 39 Ollie Mae Lovorn Clark Ollie Mae Lovorn, eighth child of William Hughes and Maggie Lovorn was born October 10, 1910; married Henry Clark. Ollie Mae died November 8, 1964, and is buried in Detroit, Michigan. (Henry Gilbert Clark d. 4 June 1971) Children are: 1. Jay, b. Aug 1, 1927;(this must be J.W.) married June 26, 1948 to Joyce (b. March 10,1929) Children are: a. Cynthia, b. Jan 23, 1949 Children are 1. Melissa, b. Mar 17, 1969 2. Angel b. Sep 24, 1972 b. Cathy, b. March 26, 1950 Children are 1. Nicole, b. Feb 7, 1970 2. Emmett, Jr., b. Apr 4, 1972 c. Carol, b. Dec 5, 1964 d. John, b. Nov 11, 1952 e. Jayson, b. July 22, 1966 2. Marilyn, b. Jun 6 1937; married Sep 7, 1957 to Edward Rayba (b. Apr 24, 1935/6) Children of Marily and Edward are: a. Mary Louise, b. Apr 17, 1960 b. Diana, b. March 7, 1962 c. Bethanne, b. Apr 15, 1966 d. Cheryl, b. Dec 18, 1967. For whatever reason, this book doesn't list the first daughter, MaryLou (Mary Louise) b. 18 July 1930 & d. 31 Aug. 1933. She is buried at Kellis Store in the Clark line. Italics are my notes - gnanse nelson

I have information on the Lovorn/Lovern family, would love to compare notes on this fmaily. Holly --- [email protected] wrote: > I am hoping to locate the children of my Uncle Henry Clark. He was > the son of > John William & Mary Lucy Land Clark Of Kemper Ct. He married Ollie > Mae Lovern > (spelling?) of Winston Ct. > Henry passed away in the 70s in Michigan. His children are J.W. Clark > & > Marilyn Clark. They may be in Michigan but would have maintained ties > with their > mother's Lovern kin in Winston. > I am the daughter of Henry's youngest sister, Mildred Clark Nelson. I > have > exstensive ancestoral info on both the Clark and the Land families to > share with > anyone researching those families. > I am hoping someone from this list recognizes these names and can > help me and > my 18 other cousins as we have all been searching from some time, > attempting > to reconnect with J.W. & Marilyn. > Sincerely, > Gnanse Nelson > [email protected] > New Orleans, LA > > > ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== > List Mom for MSWINSTON-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com

Just a clarrification on the previous posting. I believe Ollie Mae's last name may have been spelled Lovorn and her daughter Marilyn Clark, according to more info that I dug up, is listed as marrying an Ed Rayba. Marilyn's brother, J.W.'s full name was John William Clark, Jr. He was named after his grandfather. The little info that I have shows J.W. Clark as b. between 1925 & 1935 & Marilyn was born sometime not long after. I do know that Ollie Mae & her husband Henry Gilbert Clark were either seperated or divorced when their first daughter Mary Lou died in 1933. They either got back together or remarried and then Marilyn was born. As before, any listers familiar with Ollie Mae Lovorn Clark's family, who might have info on her children, J.W. or Marilyn, I would very much like to hear from you. Sincerely, Gnanse Nelson Henry G. Clark's niece

I am hoping to locate the children of my Uncle Henry Clark. He was the son of John William & Mary Lucy Land Clark Of Kemper Ct. He married Ollie Mae Lovern (spelling?) of Winston Ct. Henry passed away in the 70s in Michigan. His children are J.W. Clark & Marilyn Clark. They may be in Michigan but would have maintained ties with their mother's Lovern kin in Winston. I am the daughter of Henry's youngest sister, Mildred Clark Nelson. I have exstensive ancestoral info on both the Clark and the Land families to share with anyone researching those families. I am hoping someone from this list recognizes these names and can help me and my 18 other cousins as we have all been searching from some time, attempting to reconnect with J.W. & Marilyn. Sincerely, Gnanse Nelson [email protected] New Orleans, LA

Dear Mr. Louis Taunton, Would you please put me back on the list for the columns you have been sending. I have not been receiving them for awhile but I have had server problems. I hope they are fixed. I truly appreciate your efforts. Regards, Martha

You guys are awesome! Thanks to the advice of one of the list members, I contacted the Reference Desk at the Mississippi Department of Archives and History in Jackson, and they confirmed that they do have records of the East Mississippi State Hospital (Meridian), specifically the Patient Admission Registers for 1885-1966. Thanks guys for my next lead! Mary K. Johnson

Duaine, Thanks for the information on the second marriage book. I was afraid it would only go out to about 1908. Donna, If you have a chance to look for them, I would appreciate it. Again the folks are Maxy McCool and Mary Della Whitten, married August 10, 1925. If I can't find them in Winston, I'll check Choctaw next. Thanks for the offer! Best regards to you both! Mary K. Johnson [email protected] > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:34:57 EST > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MSWINSTON] Winston Marriage Records > > Mary, > The Marriage Records Book Vol II for Winston Cty. goes only up to > 1908. > Sorry > Duaine Evans > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 4 message/rfc822 > Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:56:39 -0700 > From: "Donna Drake" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Winston County marriages circa 1920's > > Mary - If you can wait until Thursday I can check the Winston > County marriage index on microfilm for you. The index has marriages > listed to about 1931. Donna Lowery Drake > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary K. Johnson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:43 AM > Subject: [MSWINSTON] Winston County marriages circa 1920's > > > Does the Winston County Marriage Book Volume II cover marriages > as late > as the 1920's? > > I am looking for a marriage from 1925 for Della Whitten and Maxy > McCool. I know the date (August 10, 1925), I just don't know if > they > were married in Winston, Choctaw, or somewhere else. If the > marriage > book volume II does not have marriages for 1925, I will just have > to > write the Circuit Clerk. > > Can anyone help? > Thanks! > > Mary K. Johnson > [email protected] > > > ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== > USGS Mapping Information query form > http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Mary, The Marriage Records Book Vol II for Winston Cty. goes only up to 1908. Sorry Duaine Evans

Mary - If you can wait until Thursday I can check the Winston County marriage index on microfilm for you. The index has marriages listed to about 1931. Donna Lowery Drake ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary K. Johnson To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:43 AM Subject: [MSWINSTON] Winston County marriages circa 1920's Does the Winston County Marriage Book Volume II cover marriages as late as the 1920's? I am looking for a marriage from 1925 for Della Whitten and Maxy McCool. I know the date (August 10, 1925), I just don't know if they were married in Winston, Choctaw, or somewhere else. If the marriage book volume II does not have marriages for 1925, I will just have to write the Circuit Clerk. Can anyone help? Thanks! Mary K. Johnson [email protected] ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== USGS Mapping Information query form http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Does the Winston County Marriage Book Volume II cover marriages as late as the 1920's? I am looking for a marriage from 1925 for Della Whitten and Maxy McCool. I know the date (August 10, 1925), I just don't know if they were married in Winston, Choctaw, or somewhere else. If the marriage book volume II does not have marriages for 1925, I will just have to write the Circuit Clerk. Can anyone help? Thanks! Mary K. Johnson [email protected]

> Archives and Library Search Room > Attn: Reference Desk > P.O. Box 571 > Jackson, MS 39205-0571 > > Telephone: 601-359-6876 > Fax: 601-359-6964 [email protected] The Dept A & H will do up to one hour of search per request...If you are a Mississippi resident it is free others are charged $15 (I think) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary K. Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:44 AM Subject: [MSWINSTON] Re: East Mississippi Lunacy Records | Eleanor, | | You have given me hope! I checked the web site last night for East | Mississippi State Hospital (http://www.emsh.state.ms.us), and the web | site said the East Mississippi State Insane Asylum opened for service | in January 1885. The name was changed to East Mississippi Insane | Hospital in 1898 and finally to East Mississippi State Hospital in the | early 1930's. Since my relative was committed in October 1889, I am | hoping her records would be included in the early records you saw at | the state archives in Jackson. I also e-mailed the public information | officer at the hospital to see what records are accessible (if any), | and if so, where can they be accessed. If I find out anything useful, | I'll update the list. | | I really appreciate the encouragement. I'm not so much interested in | her "gory medical details" as I am as to whether or not she died there | and if so, was she buried there. | | Thanks again! | Mary K. Johnson | | | > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:26:34 -0800 (PST) | > From: eleanor belew <[email protected]> | > To: [email protected] | > Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Winston County Lunacy Records | > | > Mary, | > In 2000 I visited the archives in Jackson. At that time they had | > released some of the early | > records from East Mississippi Insane Hospital. | > Also if you check the 1920 & 1930 Lauderdale Co. census records they | > list the inmates at the | > hospital. | > Hope this helps. | > Eleanor | > | > __________________________________ | > Do you Yahoo!? | > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes | > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus | > | | | ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== | USGS Mapping Information query form | http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html | | ============================== | Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration | Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 |

Eleanor, You have given me hope! I checked the web site last night for East Mississippi State Hospital (http://www.emsh.state.ms.us), and the web site said the East Mississippi State Insane Asylum opened for service in January 1885. The name was changed to East Mississippi Insane Hospital in 1898 and finally to East Mississippi State Hospital in the early 1930's. Since my relative was committed in October 1889, I am hoping her records would be included in the early records you saw at the state archives in Jackson. I also e-mailed the public information officer at the hospital to see what records are accessible (if any), and if so, where can they be accessed. If I find out anything useful, I'll update the list. I really appreciate the encouragement. I'm not so much interested in her "gory medical details" as I am as to whether or not she died there and if so, was she buried there. Thanks again! Mary K. Johnson > Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:26:34 -0800 (PST) > From: eleanor belew <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSWINSTON] Winston County Lunacy Records > > Mary, > In 2000 I visited the archives in Jackson. At that time they had > released some of the early > records from East Mississippi Insane Hospital. > Also if you check the 1920 & 1930 Lauderdale Co. census records they > list the inmates at the > hospital. > Hope this helps. > Eleanor > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus >

Mary, In 2000 I visited the archives in Jackson. At that time they had released some of the early records from East Mississippi Insane Hospital. Also if you check the 1920 & 1930 Lauderdale Co. census records they list the inmates at the hospital. Hope this helps. Eleanor __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus

Helen, I agree to some degree with what you say. I know, though, that when I finally lose my mind, I won't want my family to see that information broadcast on the web later. As someone who deals with lots of confidential information of others, I understand totally why that act is necessary. Just my one cent (I used to have two cents but had to use one to reserve my room at the mental institution) Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: [MSWINSTON] Re: MSWINSTON-D Digest V04 #2 > Mary K. - I had a relative in the Little Rock State Hospital who died in 1928 > there. When I inquired about his records last Fall, I was told that the > "Privacy Act" lately passed prevented them from giving out any information about > any of their patients whether they had died seventy something years ago or > not!! They would not even confirm for me that they had any records. I left > Little Rock empty handed. I don't think all States are this strict, but I felt > that this Act is an injustice to all genealogists, if it is, in fact, > interpreted this strongly. We ought to form a protest group and bombard our > Congressmen. If anyone has had other experiences, I would be happy to hear. > Helen > > > ==== MSWINSTON Mailing List ==== > List Mom for MSWINSTON-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Mary K. - I had a relative in the Little Rock State Hospital who died in 1928 there. When I inquired about his records last Fall, I was told that the "Privacy Act" lately passed prevented them from giving out any information about any of their patients whether they had died seventy something years ago or not!! They would not even confirm for me that they had any records. I left Little Rock empty handed. I don't think all States are this strict, but I felt that this Act is an injustice to all genealogists, if it is, in fact, interpreted this strongly. We ought to form a protest group and bombard our Congressmen. If anyone has had other experiences, I would be happy to hear. Helen

Hi List! Does anyone know whether the lunacy records for Winston County circa 1890's are available and, if so, where? Would they be at the Chancery Clerk's office in Louisville or the state archives in Jackson? How would I go about finding the court records for when someone was committed, assuming I knew WHEN they were committed? I believe I may have had at least one, maybe even two, relatives committed to the "insane asylum in Meridian" circa 1890. Someone told me this would have been the East Mississippi Hospital. Can anyone give me more information about this hospital, i.e. its full name, where it was located, is it still open, when did it close, etc? I tell ya' what, ya' gotta have a sense of humor to do genealogy! Thanks for your help! Mary K. Johnson [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/look4whittens/

I recently participated in the Stewart/Stuart DNA project and got an exact match with only one other group so far. That family was the James and Mary Lafferty Stewart family that settled the Cowpasture area of VA in the early 1700's. Do any descendants of Aaron Stewart who came to early Winston County know if this family connects to yours? My William Davis Stuart in Neshoba County was on the 1850 Winston census next door to Aaron Stewart (Jr.) so I thought there might be a connection. Thanks, George Stuart

I can help you on the Bouchillions contact me at [email protected] due to a death in the family it will be Monday before I can get to the information, which one are you looking for? Faye