This John Perry seems to be a different John Perry than Virginia is talking about. Since that John Perry is married to Eleanor Murphy and she was born in 1850 in SC. Sandy, what dates do you have for birth on John E. Perry? Have a great day, Barbara Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: C. William Gilbreath<mailto:cwgil@charter.net> To: MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [MSWILKIN] john perry Virginia, According to information I had been given years ago, the John E. Perry who married Catherine F. Miller on 9 Feb. 1860 was the son of my ancestor John Oliver Perry (b. 1802 Harford County, MD, d. 1878 in East Feliciana) and Elinor H. Brown (b. 07 June 1803 in New Feliciana , d.April 1872 in East Feliciana ) Sandra Gilbreath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Ewing" <vewing65@ctesc.net<mailto:vewing65@ctesc.net>> To: <MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: [MSWILKIN] john perry > Can anyone help me sort this John Perry? He is the brother of Martin > Perry, son of Jon Perry and Eleanor Murphy. > > I am not sure the probate papers belong to him, and I am wondering if he > is the same man whose death was recorded in the book compiled by Mrs. > Honey Gross for the Woodville Civic Club. > > John C. Perry died 20 June 1862 and I copied the death date in the John > Perry's death date as 22 June 1866. > > I was copying by hand and sometimes make a mistake. Brenda, if you make > it back to the court house anytime soon, would you check the date for me? > > Also, he received a land grant 21 April 1856. for military service. If > this was the John Perry below, he would have been 20 years old at the > time. Where would he have served to receive the grant? I don't recall > any wars going on at the time, unless it was Indian wars. > > What makes it so difficult is, this family seemed really unsure of their > ages, more than usual. If you check the census I sent in the previous > message you will see that none of them aged a true 10 years between > census. > > Any help in this family would be appreciated. I do have a lot of probate > and other records on microfilm at the local FHC, including Will books one > and two. Will Book 2 would have have included his will, had he left one. > > P6-4F. JOHN PERRY > b. abt 1837 age 14 in 1850 Wilkinson co. MS census, he is 21 > in the 1860 census. > > He was not in the 1870 Wilkinson county census. He seems to be > the John Perry mentioned > > In Loose probate papers as having died 22 June 1866. There was > no mention of a wife. It is possible > > She also died before 1870. > > > > John E. Perry md. Catharine f. Miller 9 Feb 1860 not sure > this is his marriage. > > > > > > From: The confederacy and Wilkinson county by Honey Gross and Miss Jeanne > Gross, published by the Woodville Civic Club. Inc. > > J. C. PERRY Pvt. Mil. Roll April 29-June 30 1862. Died in > hospital at Okolona June 20, 1862. > > [I am not sure if this is the same man. I could have copied the death > date incorrectly from the probate papers. VE]. > > > > Loose Probate papers, Wilkinson county, MS filed under Perry > > [extracted: not word for word] > > JOHN PERRY late of said county departed this life 22 June 1866, having no > will. left no estate except a land warrant of the US government for 160 > acres issued him for military service, 21 April 1856. > > > > There never having been any administration on the estate of deceased----- > > There are so many heirs that it is very difficult for them legally to sell > & request permission to sell the land--- > > Publisher asks to be appointed special administrator. 20 Dec 1877. Wm. > D. 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Hi Barbara. You are correct that it is a completely different Perry line than Virginia's Perry ancestors. This John E. Perry was born in Louisiana in 1837 to John Oliver Perry and Elinor Brown. They came to Louisiana from Maryland, settling in East Feliciana Parish. Their son, this John E. Perry in question, married Catherine F. Miller on 09 Feb. 1860. I was only responding to the one line in Virginia's posting that read: "John E. Perry md. Catharine f. Miller 9 Feb 1860 not sure this is his marriage." Hope this answers what you were wondering about. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT BARBARA SMITH" <azbarbsmith@msn.com> To: <MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [MSWILKIN] john perry > This John Perry seems to be a different John Perry than Virginia is > talking about. Since that John Perry is married to Eleanor Murphy and she > was born in 1850 in SC. Sandy, what dates do you have for birth on John > E. Perry? > > Have a great day, > Barbara Smith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: C. William Gilbreath<mailto:cwgil@charter.net> > To: MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [MSWILKIN] john perry > > > Virginia, > According to information I had been given years ago, the John E. Perry > who > married Catherine F. Miller on 9 Feb. 1860 was the son of my ancestor > John > Oliver Perry (b. 1802 Harford County, MD, d. 1878 in East Feliciana) and > Elinor H. Brown (b. 07 June 1803 in New Feliciana , d.April 1872 in East > Feliciana ) > Sandra Gilbreath > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Ewing" <vewing65@ctesc.net<mailto:vewing65@ctesc.net>> > To: <MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:MSWILKIN-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:28 PM > Subject: [MSWILKIN] john perry > > > > Can anyone help me sort this John Perry? He is the brother of Martin > > Perry, son of Jon Perry and Eleanor Murphy. > > > > I am not sure the probate papers belong to him, and I am wondering if > he > > is the same man whose death was recorded in the book compiled by Mrs. > > Honey Gross for the Woodville Civic Club. > > > > John C. Perry died 20 June 1862 and I copied the death date in the John > > Perry's death date as 22 June 1866. > > > > I was copying by hand and sometimes make a mistake. Brenda, if you > make > > it back to the court house anytime soon, would you check the date for > me? > > > > Also, he received a land grant 21 April 1856. for military service. > If > > this was the John Perry below, he would have been 20 years old at the > > time. Where would he have served to receive the grant? I don't recall > > any wars going on at the time, unless it was Indian wars. > > > > What makes it so difficult is, this family seemed really unsure of > their > > ages, more than usual. If you check the census I sent in the previous > > message you will see that none of them aged a true 10 years between > > census. > > > > Any help in this family would be appreciated. I do have a lot of > probate > > and other records on microfilm at the local FHC, including Will books > one > > and two. Will Book 2 would have have included his will, had he left > one. > > > > P6-4F. JOHN PERRY > > b. abt 1837 age 14 in 1850 Wilkinson co. MS census, he is > 21 > > in the 1860 census. > > > > He was not in the 1870 Wilkinson county census. He seems to > be > > the John Perry mentioned > > > > In Loose probate papers as having died 22 June 1866. There > was > > no mention of a wife. It is possible > > > > She also died before 1870. > > > > > > > > John E. Perry md. Catharine f. Miller 9 Feb 1860 not > sure > > this is his marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: The confederacy and Wilkinson county by Honey Gross and Miss > Jeanne > > Gross, published by the Woodville Civic Club. Inc. > > > > J. C. PERRY Pvt. Mil. Roll April 29-June 30 1862. Died in > > hospital at Okolona June 20, 1862. > > > > [I am not sure if this is the same man. I could have copied the death > > date incorrectly from the probate papers. VE]. > > > > > > > > Loose Probate papers, Wilkinson county, MS filed under Perry > > > > [extracted: not word for word] > > > > JOHN PERRY late of said county departed this life 22 June 1866, having > no > > will. left no estate except a land warrant of the US government for > 160 > > acres issued him for military service, 21 April 1856. > > > > > > > > There never having been any administration on the estate of > deceased----- > > > > There are so many heirs that it is very difficult for them legally to > sell > > & request permission to sell the land--- > > > > Publisher asks to be appointed special administrator. 20 Dec 1877. > Wm. > > D. 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