In a message dated 12/2/03 11:53:30 PM, [email protected] writes: << Wiley was the son of Walter Shropshire (1797-1866) and Tabitha Day (? to > 1802?) TABITHA DAY, b. est 1802 GA md WALTER SHROPSHIRE 18 Dec 1817 Amite county, MS >> SO, WAS MARY MCCEARLEY THE MOTHER OF THESE KIDS OR Labitha Ann???? Mary was their mother. She is in the census with them. All of the children where born before 1870. From the dates in your message, Wiley md. L. A. in 1873. THANK YOU....AS USUAL!!!! I realized after I sent the message the kids had to be Mary McCurley Shropshire's because of birth dates. But another big question was Wiley Shropshire remarrying Labitha A. (L.A.) Robinson April 2, 1873 in Adams Co., MS Out of all my searching this is the first time I could actually confirm he remarried after Mary McCurley. Now, wonder if he had a family by L.A.? Apparently not they were not listed in the settling of the estate of Wiley in 1887. Thanks for your help, Brenda McCurley White

Brenda, Since you have a long question, I will give a long answer. > Wiley was the son of Walter Shropshire (1797-1866) and Tabitha Day (? to > 1802?) TABITHA DAY, b. est 1802 GA md WALTER SHROPSHIRE 18 Dec 1817 Amite county, MS 1850 Wilkinson county Census page 270B house 11 family 12 Walter Shropshire 48 planter $5000 real estate b. SC Tabitha 48 b. [ditto] SC [she was b. GA. ve.] Temperance 24 b. MS Lovice 18 b. MS Emily 16 MS Eliz 13 MS Amanda 10 MS Wiley 20 MS Thos 8 MS in this census, Wiley is with his parents and 20 years old. Tabitha's age is a ditto, under Walter's age. The census has her birthplace as SC. From tax records it seems her parents, Jonathan Day and Miss [unknown] Trice where in Hancock, GA at the time of her birth. They where in GA from the 1770s until Jonathan gave notice that he was 'removing himself' in 1807. > who married Mary "Polly" McCearley (McCurley) on June 6, 1854, Wilkinson Co. > Mary was the daughter of Joseph McCurley (1800-1846) and Jane unknown > (1804-1870) > According to everything I have their children were: Levisa Jane (1857-1934), > Nancy E. (1859-1942), Mattie (1871-1947) and Tabitha A. (1855-1891) 1860 Wilkinson county MS page 523 house 7 page 6 Wiley Shropshire 30 planter $4000 real estate, $6100 personal b. MS Mary 26 b. MS Tabitha 5 b. MS Vicey J. 3 b. MS Nancy E. 1 b. MS James Paris 13 b MS I do not know who James Paris was but maybe someone out there can help. 1970 Wilkinson county census dist 5 page 290 Woodville SHROPSHIRE, Wiley 39 m farmer 1000 realestate 1260 personal MS Mary 33 f keeping house Tobitha A. 14 f at home Levicey Jane 13 f at home Nancy E. 11 f at home Emily A. 1 f at home Mary is his wife in 1870 and there is a one year old child, Emily, in the household. 1880 Wilkinson county Census 565A 275-282 Moses Cavin 65 m TN TN Ireland Dinah F. 56 f wife MS TN Ireland Wiley 17 m son MS TN MS Katie 25 f daug Mattie Shropshire 12 f neice MS MS MS Here Mattie is living with Moses Cavin and is said to be his neice but she was really the neice of his first wife, Sarah Shropshire, Wiley's sister. Since Mattie is 12 on this census she much be the Emily A. in the 1879 census. It was not uncommon for names to change between census. Since the names where not recorded by the state, but only in the family bible, it was easy to change a name if you decided you liked another better. By the way, this Moses Cavin was Alma Perry's grandfather. > But, on the 1880 census it lists a Wiley Shropshire age 49, Labitha A > Shropshire, wife, age 45 > courthouse records in Adams Co. a WILEY Shropshire married a L.A. Robinson >April 2, 1873 > SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. Did Wiley Shropshire remarry or what????? Yes. As L. A. is the adminstrator of his estate and listed as his widow. You can be sure it is the same Wiley because his children are named and they are the same children that appeared with him in the 1860 and 1870 census. > Then on Aug. 10, 1887. Cause #1062, L.A. (Labitha Ann?) "Shropshire > appointed adminstrator of estate of Wiley Shropshire, widow and heir at law and his > children: Tabitha Cobb, wife of John S. Cobb; Martha Brown (Mattie) wife of > J.A. (James Arthur) Brown; "Fancy" (Levisa Jane) wife of J. R. Leake and Nancy > (Nannie) E. Carter wife of I.D. Carter all residents of Wilkinson Co, MS." > Next date Jan. 9, 1888. > > SO, WAS MARY MCCEARLEY THE MOTHER OF THESE KIDS OR Labitha Ann???? Mary was their mother. She is in the census with them. All of the children where born before 1970. From the dates in your message, Wiley md. L. A. in 1873. Virginia

Question--Wilkinson Co. Wiley Shropshire b. abt. 1830 m. Mary McCearley(McCurley) b. abt. 1832 on June 6, 1854, Wilkinson Co., MS. Wiley was the son of Walter Shropshire (1797-1866) and Tabitha Day (? to 1802?) who married Mary "Polly" McCearley (McCurley) on June 6, 1854, Wilkinson Co. Mary was the daughter of Joseph McCurley (1800-1846) and Jane unknown (1804-1870) According to everything I have their children were: Levisa Jane (1857-1934), Nancy E. (1859-1942), Mattie (1871-1947) and Tabitha A. (1855-1891) But, on the 1880 census it lists a Wiley Shropshire age 49, Labitha A Shropshire, wife, age 45, Franklin R. Shropshire, age 15, stepson; and Walter Shropshire, age 20, nephew (which he was) Yes, at first I thought it was Tabitha A. until I checked out the dates. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS. Did Wiley Shropshire remarry or what????? There are courthouse records in Adams Co. a WILEY Shropshire married a L.A. Robinson April 2, 1873 in Adams County, MS. ARE THEY THE SAME,--DON'T KNOW!!!! If not why is a L.A. Shropshire listed on courthouse records on the settlement of estate instead of Mary McCurley Shropshire????? According to the Wilkinson Co. Courthouse records it shows Final account of Wiley Shropshire, guardian of T.C. (Thomas Chesley) MCCURLEY (1855-1944, son of James McCurley 1830-? and Lucy Shropshire 1832-?. Wiley would have been his uncle), upward of 21 years of age. Dated Aug. 7, 1876. Then on Aug. 10, 1887. Cause #1062, L.A. (Labitha Ann?) "Shropshire appointed adminstrator of estate of Wiley Shropshire, widow and heir at law and his children: Tabitha Cobb, wife of John S. Cobb; Martha Brown (Mattie) wife of J.A. (James Arthur) Brown; "Fancy" (Levisa Jane) wife of J. R. Leake and Nancy (Nannie) E. Carter wife of I.D. Carter all residents of Wilkinson Co, MS." Next date Jan. 9, 1888. SO, WAS MARY MCCEARLEY THE MOTHER OF THESE KIDS OR Labitha Ann???? Did he remarry???? Just a very long question!!!!! Brenda McCurley White Just a question. Can somebody clairfy this??? Appreciate any help! Brenda McCurley White

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In a message dated 11/26/03 9:14:02 PM, [email protected] writes: << Elvira Shropshire Arnold was seeking one third of the > estate. BUT > THERE WAS NO DATE ON THE DOCUMENT!!! >> No, I said Elivra was seeking one third of the estate. Jonathan Day was the adminstrator. If I mis-lead you I'm sorry! Brenda

In a message dated 11/25/03 10:04:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Jonathan Day and Elvira Shropshire Arnold was seeking one third of the > estate. BUT > THERE WAS NO DATE ON THE DOCUMENT!!! > Hi, I'm glad you found that missing piece of the puzzle. I have a suggestion that may work on finding the document's approximate date. If you have access to these court records, try looking at the point of document's number back 5 documents and look forward 5 documents. Look at each document & note their dates (if any, hopefully there is) this may indicate a date you're looking for. Try it & tell us if it worked or didn't. Thank You, Marlon Ebey

> the date on the death certificate when my father finds it). Therefore, in > answer to your question, yes POKE SANDERS is the real name not a nickname. > The following is what I know for sure; names on the death certificate where the names given by the person giving the information. If they knew the father as Poke that is what would be on the deathcertificate, still, not necessary his full name. Need to find him on a census birth dates and place of birth found on a death certificate may or may not be correct. It depends on the person giving the information. They do give you a place to start looking. > on June 18, 1842 who had an administrator of his (THOMAS Y. SANDERS) estate > sell land to the heir (NATHAN SWAYZE) of WILLIAM SWAYZE (mentioned in above > sentence). Also, from the Republican newspaper. Is it possible for you to > find out if either JOSEPH SANDERS & THOMAS Y. SANDERS has a son POKE? Only the head of household was listed by name in census before 1850. There may be something in the probate records giving a list of his children, but I haven't gotten to that year yet. write to me off the list. [email protected]

Ms. Ewing, Thank you. I checked the SAUNDERS line and found no POKE. I went to a family gathering last night and POKE SANDERS (from Woodville, MS) was listed on the death certificate for his (POKE) son HORACE SR. (I'll have to get the date on the death certificate when my father finds it). Therefore, in answer to your question, yes POKE SANDERS is the real name not a nickname. The following is what I know for sure; POKE had a son Horace Sr. (born unknown date in middle 1800's, I would assume) who later migrated to Baton Rouge, LA.. Horace Sr. married a Lurtie (last name unknown in San Francisville, LA some time in the late or middle 1800's) Horace Sr. was also worked a plantation overseer at sometime (probably before marrying Lurtie) at a unknown plantation in San Fancisville, LA. Horace Sr. later worked for Esso Standard Oil Co. (later Standard Oil) in Baton Rouge, LA. HORACE SR. died while working for Esso Standard Oil Co. (unknown date) and his obituary was in the Esso Oil Co. plant paper (had cousin to check Standard Oil archives for plant paper and HORACE SR. but no archives, all records destroyed when became Standard Oil Co.). Also, in the records you sent me Sunday, I saw a JOSEPH SANDERS, who owed land with a WILLIAM SWAYZE on March 21,1835 in WILKERSON COUNTY (from the Republican paper). There was also, a THOMAS Y. SANDERS on June 18, 1842 who had an administrator of his (THOMAS Y. SANDERS) estate sell land to the heir (NATHAN SWAYZE) of WILLIAM SWAYZE (mentioned in above sentence). Also, from the Republican newspaper. Is it possible for you to find out if either JOSEPH SANDERS & THOMAS Y. SANDERS has a son POKE? I've checked the SAUNDERS and JESSIE SANDERS line (Also, mentioned in the Republican records) and there was 'no' POKE found. Ms. Ewing, I feel confident we will resolve this inquiry! THANKS, AGAIN! Ron SANDERS ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: IYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKE To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: DOTWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRN > To: <[email protected]> > > > great-great-grandfather? I'm leaning against 'any' SAUNDERS as my > >ancestors. > > well don't lean too hard, I often find my Anders ancestors listed as > Andrews. Sanders and Saunders may be interchangeable. Also, sometimes one > branch of a family will spell their name one way and another branch of the > same family chooses a different spelling, one example would be McCurley and > McCearley. > > Also, answering you other e-mail: > Do you know for a fact that POKE was your ancestors official name, or was it > the name he was known by. There is a difference. > Many people gave their children nicknames that had nothing to do with their > real name. Makes research very hard until you know the real given name. > > I did not find a Poke as a Sanders or Saunders in the marriage records or > the > cemetery record book. > > There are no birth records for the mid 1850s. Births were not required to > be recorded in MS until 1912. > > Some records of the Woodville Republican where copied by Mrs. Weise and I > sent you what I found there. There may be more as those I copied years ago > when trying to find the Saunders who are descended from Agnes Ashley. > I have the first 5 volumes of Mrs. Weise's book on CD but it is indexed by > surname only > and it takes hours to go though and check each mention of a name > I bought my copy from www.heritagebooks.com. It was $27.50 plus $5.00 > shipping. A real bargain. > > The early editions of the paper are on microfilm but the print is small, > smeared and difficult to read. I read one film and gave up. > > DO NOT contact the newspaper with request for look ups. Mr. Lewis, the > editor, told me they got many request but they do not have the time or man > power to do look ups. From the way he talked, I don't think they have back > issues on hand. He referred me to the ones on microfilm and to Mrs. Weise's > books. > > FHC is short for Family History Center. They are run by the Church Of Jesus > Christ of Latter Day Saints and are branches of the main Family History > Library in Salt Lake City. There are millions of microfilm and most can be > rented through FHCs. Just about everything in the Wilkinson Co. Chancery > Clerks office has been microfilmed down to 1920. > All the marriage records are on microfilm and some of the early civil court > records. > > All the census records are on CD's and can be purchased through > www.heritagequest.com > They are much easier to read than microfilm as the CD image can be enlarged > as big as you like. > > The 1850 and 1860 census have been copied and can be found at > http://www.us-census.org/states/mississippi/w-ms.htm#Wilkinson > or > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thall/censuses.html > > Do you know the names of Poke's children, or even one child, and about when > he/she was born? That would be a big help. It is much easier to start with > what you know and work up. > > > Virginia > > > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > To contact the list admin: [email protected] > county Webpage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mswilkin > archives: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > threaded archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

UPDATE!!!! Recently I posted a question concerning Louis W. Arnold b. abt. 1844 married to ALVIRA Shropshire b. abt. 1844 . Louis W. Arnold and Almira (Elmira) were married April 25, 1870 in Amite Co. * Then there was some discussion that the above Alvira could have been Elvira Leitha King b. abt. 1838 who married William Shropshire b. abt. 1828 on July 22, 1857 in Wilkinson Co., MS. * I replied with the answer that I was searching for a Alvira that was a Shropshire by birth not by marriage and that I didn’t think the 2 women were the same. * The following are just a few of the records I found in the Woodville, Wilkinson Co. Courthouse records concerning these two: 1. ALVIRA Arnold petition for writ of dower. Petiition filed and rendered Nov. 15, 1871 2. In the matter of LOUIS & Elvira Arnold Guardians of heirs of Wm. Shropshire. Account filed Nov. 20, 1872. * So, I thought I was on the right track. Admittedly, the children of William Shropshire and Elvira Leitha King were Walter b. abt. 1858, George W. b. abt. 1865 and Thomas E. b. abt. 1857, with Louis W. Arnold and Elvira Arnold seeking Guardianship concerning these minor heirs. *BUT I WAS WRONG!!!!! * Today I discovered in the Wilkinson Co. Courthouse the following….. …"The petition of Elvira Arnold formerly Elvira Shropshire of the county of Wilkinson, State of Miss shows that she is the ????and widow of William Shropshire late of said county now deceased who departed this life some time during the year 18 last dying intestate and leaving considerable ??? and personal estate in said county" Letters of administration of the estate were given to Jonathan Day and Elvira Shropshire Arnold was seeking one third of the estate. BUT THERE WAS NO DATE ON THE DOCUMENT!!! * It latter said……"also upon Louis Arnold & Elvira Arnold the stepfather, mother and legal guardian of said minor defendants"….Dated March 16, 1872 * It never mentioned the exact date William Shropshire died!!!! The only thing I could find coming close to a death date was the following…. * " To: Estate of Wm. Shropshire From: Levi Hastings, dated Jan. 1, 1868 To making one coffin for William Shropshire $20 To making one coffin for William Shropshire CHILD $10 Total due Levi Hastings $30 * NOW WHO WAS THE CHILD that died the same time William Shropshire did??? If anybody can tell me please do so. But I wanted to set the record straight immediately and I sincerely apologize for any miscommunication to the LIST. Brenda McCurley White

UPDATE!!!! Recently I posted a question concerning Louis W. Arnold b. abt. 1844 married to ALVIRA Shropshire b. abt. 1844 . Louis W. Arnold and Almira (Elmira) were married April 25, 1870 in Amite Co. * Then there was some discussion that the above Alvira could have been Elvira Leitha King b. abt. 1838 who married William Shropshire b. abt. 1828 on July 22, 1857 in Wilkinson Co., MS. * I replied with the answer that I was searching for a Alvira that was a Shropshire by birth not by marriage and that I didn’t think the 2 women were the same. * The following are just a few of the records I found in the Woodville, Wilkinson Co. Courthouse records concerning these two: 1. ALVIRA Arnold petition for writ of dower. Petiition filed and rendered Nov. 15, 1871 2. In the matter of LOUIS & Elvira Arnold Guardians of heirs of Wm. Shropshire. Account filed Nov. 20, 1872. * So, I thought I was on the right track. Admittedly, the children of William Shropshire and Elvira Leitha King were Walter b. abt. 1858, George W. b. abt. 1865 and Thomas E. b. abt. 1857, with Louis W. Arnold and Elvira Arnold seeking Guardianship concerning these minor heirs. *BUT I WAS WRONG!!!!! * Today I discovered in the Wilkinson Co. Courthouse the following….. …"The petition of Elvira Arnold formerly Elvira Shropshire of the county of Wilkinson, State of Miss shows that she is the ????and widow of William Shropshire late of said county now deceased who departed this life some time during the year 18 last dying intestate and leaving considerable ??? and personal estate in said county" Letters of administration of the estate were given to Jonathan Day and Elvira Shropshire Arnold was seeking one third of the estate. BUT THERE WAS NO DATE ON THE DOCUMENT!!! * It latter said……"also upon Louis Arnold & Elvira Arnold the stepfather, mother and legal guardian of said minor defendants"….Dated March 16, 1872 * It never mentioned the exact date William Shropshire died!!!! The only thing I could find coming close to a death date was the following…. * " To: Estate of Wm. Shropshire From: Levi Hastings, dated Jan. 1, 1868 To making one coffin for William Shropshire $20 To making one coffin for William Shropshire CHILD $10 Total due Levi Hastings $30 * NOW WHO WAS THE CHILD that died the same time William Shropshire did??? If anybody can tell me please do so. But I wanted to set the record straight immediately and I sincerely apologize for any miscommunication to the LIST. Brenda McCurley White

I'm looking for a NANCY ANN WALKER who married AUSTIN JONES. NANCY was born in 1849 in Mississippi is all I know. AUSTIN was b. in 1839 and d. in 1908. He served in the 6th Ms. Infantry, CO. G of the Confederate Army. I don't know her parents, or his either. I pick up their story living in Wilkinson County, Mississippi. I heard NANCY was young when she died. AUSTIN and NANCY had at least 5 children: JOHNNY, HOMAH,FANNY, ROXIE, RENE. If anyone knows any info on NANCY or AUSTIN, I could sure use some help. Thanks. John Wilson

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > great-great-grandfather? I'm leaning against 'any' SAUNDERS as my >ancestors. well don't lean too hard, I often find my Anders ancestors listed as Andrews. Sanders and Saunders may be interchangeable. Also, sometimes one branch of a family will spell their name one way and another branch of the same family chooses a different spelling, one example would be McCurley and McCearley. Also, answering you other e-mail: Do you know for a fact that POKE was your ancestors official name, or was it the name he was known by. There is a difference. Many people gave their children nicknames that had nothing to do with their real name. Makes research very hard until you know the real given name. I did not find a Poke as a Sanders or Saunders in the marriage records or the cemetery record book. There are no birth records for the mid 1850s. Births were not required to be recorded in MS until 1912. Some records of the Woodville Republican where copied by Mrs. Weise and I sent you what I found there. There may be more as those I copied years ago when trying to find the Saunders who are descended from Agnes Ashley. I have the first 5 volumes of Mrs. Weise's book on CD but it is indexed by surname only and it takes hours to go though and check each mention of a name I bought my copy from www.heritagebooks.com. It was $27.50 plus $5.00 shipping. A real bargain. The early editions of the paper are on microfilm but the print is small, smeared and difficult to read. I read one film and gave up. DO NOT contact the newspaper with request for look ups. Mr. Lewis, the editor, told me they got many request but they do not have the time or man power to do look ups. From the way he talked, I don't think they have back issues on hand. He referred me to the ones on microfilm and to Mrs. Weise's books. FHC is short for Family History Center. They are run by the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and are branches of the main Family History Library in Salt Lake City. There are millions of microfilm and most can be rented through FHCs. Just about everything in the Wilkinson Co. Chancery Clerks office has been microfilmed down to 1920. All the marriage records are on microfilm and some of the early civil court records. All the census records are on CD's and can be purchased through www.heritagequest.com They are much easier to read than microfilm as the CD image can be enlarged as big as you like. The 1850 and 1860 census have been copied and can be found at http://www.us-census.org/states/mississippi/w-ms.htm#Wilkinson or http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thall/censuses.html Do you know the names of Poke's children, or even one child, and about when he/she was born? That would be a big help. It is much easier to start with what you know and work up. Virginia

Ms. Ewing, After perusing the material you sent, two (2) MOST PROMISING leads stick out. First, JOSEPH SANDERS on March 21, 1835 (Republican newspaper). Second, THOMAS Y. SANDERS on June 18, 1842. Perhaps, both of them had sons, one being POKE, my great-great-grandfather? I'm leaning against 'any' SAUNDERS as my ancestors. Ron SANDERS ----- Original Message ----- To: "roncsanders" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:21 PM Subject: Fw: 11/22/03 1st REPLY Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: DJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCL > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:58 PM > Subject: Fw: 11/22/03 1st REPLY Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM > WOODSVILLE, MS. > > > > I am sending this to your home as I think I copied it from Mrs. Weise's > book > > on the Woodville Republican and do not want to send it to the list. > > > > From the Woodville republican > > > > > > > > date published SANDERS-SAUNDERS > > > > 1835 Mar 21 W.E. Green, guardian of Margaret M. Lusk, will sell 315 acres > of > > land lying in > > > > Wilkinson county. bounded by the lands of JOSEPH SANDERS, and > William > > > > Swazye. (Originally from the Natchez Courier) > > > > > > > > Aug 29 JESSE SANDERS, vs. Francis Oneal $289. > > > > > > > > 1836 July 30 Fells and SAUNDERS vs. Hezekiah Burnett $120.28 > > > > > > > > 1839 Mar 23 M. E. SAUNDERS forewarns all persons from trading for a > > note of hand by him, > > > > given to N. M. Luckett. > > > > > > > > 1840 Feb 15 MASON E. SAUNDERS, adm'r., of the Wm. H. Egleston estate. > > > > > > > > 1841 Mar 13 Property in Fort Adams, belonging to Jas. Varnell to be sold, > > being the same lots > > > > purchased at Sheriff's sale by M.E. SAUNDERS & Jos. L. Wall. > > > > > > > > March 20 MASON E. SAUNDERS against Oliver R. Robinson attachment > > for the sum of > > > > $340. > > > > > > > > March 20 500 acres bounded by lands of Wm. Stewart, M.E. SAUNDERS, > > and Wm. Stewart, assessed as the property of Stephen Henderson's estate to > > be sold for tax due for 1839 & 1840, $8.38. > > > > > > > > 1842 June 18 DAVIS H. SANDER, adm'r., of the THOMAS Y. SANDERS estate, > will > > sell > > > > an undivided 2/7 of 167 acres bounded by lands of John Watkins, T. & > > R. Davis, John Cockran, and the heirs of Nathan Swayze and Richard > > Swayze. > > > > > > > > 1843 July 29 J. SAUNDERS, General Agent & commission business at > > Woodville offers > > > > references: Wm. P. Dixon of New York, E. & F.T. Prescott of > Grayson, > > Henry & > > > > co.. John r. McCall, and John P. Harris of New Orleans, Tho. W. > Drer > > of bayou > > > > Sara, Jos. H. Street, Esqr., Dr. A. A. Jones of Natchez, Judge Jos. > > Johnson, > > > > Judge Nat. Scudder, B.F. Herbert of Vicksburg, and Thomas > Hutchinson, > > Esqr., > > > > of Louisville, Ky. > > > > > > > > 1847 Mar 27 page 241. I did not copy the preceding page but this is a > list > > of solders killed and > > > > wounded and Includes a Capt. SAUNDERS. > > > > > > > > page 247 vol 2 A barbecue, in honor of the volunteers, to which citizens > of > > this county and > > > > adjoining counties are invited, the following committee has the > power > > to collect > > > > funds for this purpose: included in the list is M.E. SAUNDERS. > > > > > > > > 1848 May 15 Sheriff Sale of Judgments for Cost: Isaac R. Jackson vs. A.R. > > Kilpatrick; > > > > Rowan & Bradstreet vs. M.E. SAUNDRS, adm'r., (other names I did not > > copy) > > > > June 6. 1848 > > > > > > > > June 27 Looks like elections precincts: Fort Adams Precinct: > > includes MASON E. > > > > SAUNDERS. > > > > > > > > > > > > WOODVILLE REPUBLICAN > > > > 1850 Nov 19 Then letter written to the Hon Jefferson Davis from the > > undersigned citizens of > > > > Nov 26 Wilkinson county vowing their support for his course in > > the recent struggle > > > > between the Northern Might and the Southern Right. > > > > names included: A.R. BROWN, HENRY PERRY AND JOHN SHROPSHIRE > > > > and I.H KING, M.E. SAUNDERS, ABRAM SALUNDERS, HIRAM ASHLEY, > > > > THOS. SHROPSHIRE, BENJAMIN BASS, WM. SHROPSHIRE, DAVID > > > > MURRAY, WM. HASTINGS, JOHN ASHLEY, WM. W. ASHLEY, JONATHAN > > > > DAY. > > > > > > > > 1850 Dec 10 MASON E. SAUNDERS, will lease for term of 99 years, on a > credit > > of > > > > one, two, three, four years, the following tracts of land. Section > > no. 23, T 2, R 4 > > > > west, containing -- acres or more. > > > > > > > > 1851 page 99 vol 3 Delegates appointed to the Democratic state > conventions > > to be held Jan 8th > > > > in Jackson. > > > > Whitesville: included DANIEL MILLER > > > > Upper Homochitto: Charles McNeil, JONATHAN DAY, WALTER SHROPSHIRE > > > > JOHN ASHLEY, GEORGE HAVARD, f. Hornsby, JOHN MOORE, Caleb > > > > Swayze, DAVID H. SAUNDERS, G.W. Jones, WILLIAM HAVARD, ROBT. > > > > SHROPSHIRE & Sterling Jeter. > > > > Fort Adams: included M.E. SAUNDERS > > > > > > > > 1883 April 19 Delegates to the Democratic State Convention at Jackson > on > > 2nd day of May > > > > included: M.E. SAUNDERS, WALT SHROPSHIRE, > > > > Upper Homochitto: WALTER SHROPSINE, JOHN ASHLEY, JOHN MOORE, > > > > JONATHAN DAY, Elbert McNeil. > > > > Fort Adams: M.E. SAUNDERS > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > > > from 1820 Wilkinson county census which I extracted from the microfilmed > > original. > > > > codes: > > > > WHITE MALES 0-10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > WHITE FEMALES 0-10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > number of Foreign birth > > > > Occupation-- [Agri, com, MFG > > > > MALE SLAVES 0-14, 14-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > FEMALE SLAVES 0-14, 14-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > FREE BLACK MALES 0-14, 14-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > FREE BLACK FEMALES 0-14, 14-26, 26-45, 45 and up > > > > All other except Indians, untaxed > > > > Total in household > > > > > > > > > > page 376 ,# > > > 21,SAUNDERS,William,1,1,1,3,1,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,5,0,0,4,0,2,0,4,3,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, > > 0,0,0,26 > > > > > > > > LDS Microfilm # 0899870 > > > > > > > > 1825 State tax records for Wilkinson co, MS > > > > > > > > "I Thos. B. I? Hadley, assessor and collector of > > > > Wilkinson County do certify that the foregoing > > > > is a correct return of all the taxable inhabitants, > > > > white males and females, slaves, > > > > and births and deaths of white persons to the best > > > > of my knowledge and belief. > > > > Jany 12 1825? T. B. I. Hadley A. C.W.C. > > > > > > > > Code for columns. > > > > 1. white taxable inhabitants > > > > 2. slaves > > > > 3. white males > > > > 4. white females > > > > 5. births > > > > 6. deaths > > > > Sanders, Jesse. H. 1-0-1-0-0-0 > > > > > > I haven't extracted the 1830 or 1840 census but 1850 and 1860 are on Tina > > Hall's webpage. > > She did 1850 and proofed the 1860 for me. > > > > I may have more Sanders/Saunders data in other records. I will send it > > along as I find it. > > > > Virginia > > > > > > >

Ms. Ewing, THANK YOU, EVER SO MUCH but SAUNDERS vs. SANDERS doesn't definitively explain who my ancestors really are. Instead of going through all those records I think my search could be narrowed down to who was the FATHER OF "POKE" SANDERS, who I 'know' was my great-great-great-grandfather. And, I know 'definitely' he was from Woodsville, MS.. I really, really, appreciate what you're doing/did in my behalf. See, I too am limited due to a handicapped condition and speech impediment. I would think an odd name such as "POKE" wouldn't be hard to get information on, 'without' going through a lot of records. The Republican Paper, census, or birth records should reveal the information. My guess would be early or middle 1800's for both "POKE" and his father. Ms. Ewing, thanks, again!! Ron SANDERS P. S. Woodville's population back in the 1800's had to be small with only one or two SANDERS families 'not' SAUNDERS. Also, I hate to appear dumb, however, what does the initials 'FHC' stand for? Call it a 'senior moment' if you will. (:>) ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: YIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQK To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: Re: 11/22/03 1st REPLY Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Ms. Ewing, Thank you (See PS). Do you know or have 'any' access to > > information about the SANDERS FAMILY, from > > WOODVILLLE, MS., WILKERSON COUNTY? R. SANDERS > > I have quite a bit that I have copied from various sources. I am going to > send it to your personal e-mail address as it is probably too much to send > to the list. > > As for sources: I have all of the Wilkinson county census from 1820 to 1930 > on CDs. > I have all of the early wills, the first inventory and accounts book, > various probate books, court minutes, deeds, original signers, and some of > the early newspapers on microfilm at our local FHC. > The problem is, I don't have time to search all of these records and am > going through them, one by one, to extract names and data that might help > the list subscribers. > All of these are available at your local FHC and cost only $3.25 plus cost > of stamp or phone call to let you know they are in. > You can keep them for a month and renew them for the same price. > > I wish I could extract them all to share with the list but my vision is not > what it use to be. > > Virginia > > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > To: [email protected] > Subject: unsubscribe > Message: unsubcribe > >

Virginia, could (would) you please also send it to me? F. Wilson Hess. :O) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Ewing" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: Re: 11/22/03 1st REPLY Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Ms. Ewing, Thank you (See PS). Do you know or have 'any' access to > > information about the SANDERS FAMILY, from > > WOODVILLLE, MS., WILKERSON COUNTY? R. SANDERS > > I have quite a bit that I have copied from various sources. I am going to > send it to your personal e-mail address as it is probably too much to send > to the list. > > As for sources: I have all of the Wilkinson county census from 1820 to 1930 > on CDs. > I have all of the early wills, the first inventory and accounts book, > various probate books, court minutes, deeds, original signers, and some of > the early newspapers on microfilm at our local FHC. > The problem is, I don't have time to search all of these records and am > going through them, one by one, to extract names and data that might help > the list subscribers. > All of these are available at your local FHC and cost only $3.25 plus cost > of stamp or phone call to let you know they are in. > You can keep them for a month and renew them for the same price. > > I wish I could extract them all to share with the list but my vision is not > what it use to be. > > Virginia > > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > To: [email protected] > Subject: unsubscribe > Message: unsubcribe > > Datastar now offers HIGH SPEED INTERNET, Call for Details: 601-799-2439 > > This e-mail was scanned by RAV Antivirus. Datastar now offers HIGH SPEED INTERNET, Call for Details: 601-799-2439 This e-mail was scanned by RAV Antivirus.

> ----- Original Message ----- > Ms. Ewing, Thank you (See PS). Do you know or have 'any' access to > information about the SANDERS FAMILY, from > WOODVILLLE, MS., WILKERSON COUNTY? R. SANDERS I have quite a bit that I have copied from various sources. I am going to send it to your personal e-mail address as it is probably too much to send to the list. As for sources: I have all of the Wilkinson county census from 1820 to 1930 on CDs. I have all of the early wills, the first inventory and accounts book, various probate books, court minutes, deeds, original signers, and some of the early newspapers on microfilm at our local FHC. The problem is, I don't have time to search all of these records and am going through them, one by one, to extract names and data that might help the list subscribers. All of these are available at your local FHC and cost only $3.25 plus cost of stamp or phone call to let you know they are in. You can keep them for a month and renew them for the same price. I wish I could extract them all to share with the list but my vision is not what it use to be. Virginia

Ms. Ewing, Thank you (See PS). Do you know or have 'any' access to information about the SANDERS FAMILY, from WOODVILLLE, MS., WILKERSON COUNTY? R. SANDERS ----- Original Message ----- Wrom: EJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKEDOTWFAOBUZXUW To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > Martha B. Saunders md. Hiram Ashley in Wilkinson co., MS. She was said to > be the daughter of Ira Saunders, but I haven't tried to trace this line. > > I am afraid the George and Elizabeth Sanders in the John Ashley Family > history were a mistake. They where real alright, just not connected to this > Ashley family. > > I was given that information back in the 1980 when I had first started > trying to put the Ashley family together. It turned out that the Elizabeth > Sanders, thought to be the wife of John D. Ashley, was probably the wife of > Jordan Ashley and mother of the Jordan Ashley Jr who md. Sarah Saunders, > Elizabeth's niece, [his 1st cousin] and moved to Copiah co. MS. > The marriage of Elizabeth Sanders to John D. Ashley came from Ada Ashley > Smith. She had been given it information by someone else and was just > passing it along. > It is known that Elizabeth Saunders did marry an Ashley but not our John D. > This Ashley-Sanders/Saunders group where from Kershaw county. John Ashley > of Kershaw co., SC md. Eleanor Duran and they moved to Buncombe City, NC, > where John died and she filed for a pension, giving facts that leave no > doubt that this is the Kershaw co. SC John Ashley. > > John D. and wife Elizabeth of SC, Amite and Wilkinson co. MS are a brick > wall for me. > I started the Ashley mailing list with the hope of finding someone who could > solve this puzzle. That didn't happen. > > I do wish I could get all the copies of my early 'Descendants of John D. > Ashley' book back. I printed out dozens of copies back in the 1980 and > early 1990 and I know that many of them have been photocopied. I have no > idea how many copies are still out there, being passed from person to > person, and the mistakes going on and on. > > Virginia > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: LSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTF > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:58 PM > Subject: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > > > > I'm seeking any information on a SANDERS FAMILY from > > > Woodsville, MS. Especially, any SANDERS FAMILY that had a son by the > name of > > > 'POKE.' Also, there are SANDERS (George, Elizabeth, & Martha B.) FAMILY > > > members mentioned in the JOHN ASHLEY FAMILY HISTORY. Further, I found > > > there's a SANDERS buried at McCraine's Cemetery, in Woodville, MS. > > > Furthermore, there's two (2) SANDERS named businesses, currently in > > > Woodsville, MS. Thank you. Ron SANDERS > > > > PS I just learned George, Elizabeth, & Martha B. were SA"U"NDERS not > SANDERS. > > > > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > > How to Unsubscribe from the digest: > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: unsubscribe > > Message: unsubcribe > > > > > > > > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > To contact the list admin: [email protected] > county Webpage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mswilkin > archives: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > threaded archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > >

Martha B. Saunders md. Hiram Ashley in Wilkinson co., MS. She was said to be the daughter of Ira Saunders, but I haven't tried to trace this line. I am afraid the George and Elizabeth Sanders in the John Ashley Family history were a mistake. They where real alright, just not connected to this Ashley family. I was given that information back in the 1980 when I had first started trying to put the Ashley family together. It turned out that the Elizabeth Sanders, thought to be the wife of John D. Ashley, was probably the wife of Jordan Ashley and mother of the Jordan Ashley Jr who md. Sarah Saunders, Elizabeth's niece, [his 1st cousin] and moved to Copiah co. MS. The marriage of Elizabeth Sanders to John D. Ashley came from Ada Ashley Smith. She had been given it information by someone else and was just passing it along. It is known that Elizabeth Saunders did marry an Ashley but not our John D. This Ashley-Sanders/Saunders group where from Kershaw county. John Ashley of Kershaw co., SC md. Eleanor Duran and they moved to Buncombe City, NC, where John died and she filed for a pension, giving facts that leave no doubt that this is the Kershaw co. SC John Ashley. John D. and wife Elizabeth of SC, Amite and Wilkinson co. MS are a brick wall for me. I started the Ashley mailing list with the hope of finding someone who could solve this puzzle. That didn't happen. I do wish I could get all the copies of my early 'Descendants of John D. Ashley' book back. I printed out dozens of copies back in the 1980 and early 1990 and I know that many of them have been photocopied. I have no idea how many copies are still out there, being passed from person to person, and the mistakes going on and on. Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: [MSWILKIN] SANDERS FAMILY FROM WOODSVILLE, MS. > I'm seeking any information on a SANDERS FAMILY from > > Woodsville, MS. Especially, any SANDERS FAMILY that had a son by the name of > > 'POKE.' Also, there are SANDERS (George, Elizabeth, & Martha B.) FAMILY > > members mentioned in the JOHN ASHLEY FAMILY HISTORY. Further, I found > > there's a SANDERS buried at McCraine's Cemetery, in Woodville, MS. > > Furthermore, there's two (2) SANDERS named businesses, currently in > > Woodsville, MS. Thank you. Ron SANDERS > > PS I just learned George, Elizabeth, & Martha B. were SA"U"NDERS not SANDERS. > > > ==== MSWILKIN Mailing List ==== > How to Unsubscribe from the digest: > To: [email protected] > Subject: unsubscribe > Message: unsubcribe > > >

I'm seeking any information on a SANDERS FAMILY from > Woodsville, MS. Especially, any SANDERS FAMILY that had a son by the name of > 'POKE.' Also, there are SANDERS (George, Elizabeth, & Martha B.) FAMILY > members mentioned in the JOHN ASHLEY FAMILY HISTORY. Further, I found > there's a SANDERS buried at McCraine's Cemetery, in Woodville, MS. > Furthermore, there's two (2) SANDERS named businesses, currently in > Woodsville, MS. Thank you. Ron SANDERS PS I just learned George, Elizabeth, & Martha B. were SA"U"NDERS not SANDERS.

HI, This is Judy in Texas..My husband has a SHELBY connection back in 1797 in Wilkinson Co...Thanks for posting this. Thanks to the Texas State Archives in Austin, our Texas libraries have free access to what is called TEXSHARE database-This is strickly for use in Texas and you have to be a card holder of your local Texas library. Thru this we have access to Heritage Quest-They almost have to take this off their website...but there was such an outcry from genealogists, they decided to keep it. Cut backs to the libraries is a big ouch for everyone! We have a very active genealogy library [now have our very own building next to the library-run soley with volunteers from our genealogy socity-we work hand in hand with our public library [Kerrville, TX] We take a tremendous work load out of the hands of the library staff-they can't do what we have the time to do... So get involved with you genealogy society and see how you can help-We must be doing something right in our little town-the public library is now fully staffed again after nearly 2 years, and have now been able to re-instate their original opening hours of 7 days a week. Judy At 06:41 PM 11/19/03 -0500, you wrote: >I have noted several public libraries in Southern California have >subscriptions to the online census images. Heritage Quest is one such >subscription >service, and Ancestry.com is another. A few LDS centers have the >Ancestry.com >subscription. Genealogy.com also has some wonderful images of censuses, >but I >don't know whether libraries subscribe. > >Get on as many online public library websites in your area as possible and >see what may be available in your area. > >With the drastic budgetary cutbacks many cities and counties in California >are going to have to undergo in the next few years (the Terminator is >going to >terminate a lot of jobs, funds to counties, cities, etc, he says) we may not >long have access to some of the amenities of our public libraries. I hope >your >States fare better, although all are undergoing some tough times!!! > >E.W.Wallace