Thanks Brenda for your work in both the past and in the future:) Working on these two main families: John TURNER b. abt 1794 SC md either twice or second wife's age is incorrect on the 1850 census so either only wife or second wife is Nancy________b. abt 1823 VA - was in Tishomingo Co but cannot find on 1860 census so may have died first set of known children if there are two wives: Lucinda b. abt 1822 LA William b. abt 1828 TN Richard b. abt 1832 TN G. Henry b. abt 1833 TN Nancy b. abt 1835 TN Alfred b. abt 1838 TN children by Nancy above Louisa b. abt 1841 Tishomingo Co Alderina Evelyn b. 1 Aug 1844 Tishomingo Co. d. 29 Apr 1924 Albert b. abt 1846 Tishomingo Co. Hawkins COOPER b.abt 1806 TN d. abt 1859 TX md Susan _____ b. abt 1807 SC Hawkins is on the Itawamba Co. census for 1840 but is listed as juror and board member throughout the early 1840s in Tishomingo CO children: Malissa b, abt 1833 TN William G. b. abt 1835 TN Ralph b. abt 1837 MS Nancy b. abt 1841 MS Andrew J b. abt 1843 MS Martha b. abt 1846 AR James H b. abt 1850 AR Both of these families went to Independance Co. AR before 1850 family tradition is that the COOPERs' oldest daughter was Mary A b. abt 1830 in TN or AL who was married to John Jefferson TURNER b. abt 1820 LA most likely to be the oldest son of above TURNERs . There are several facts that support his being a son of the above John TURNER ie being born in LA in 1820 and Lucinda above was also born in LA in 1822 and the fact that John Jefferson and Mary A. had a son named Hawkins Beddex TURNER also supports the marriage between the two families. All help would be much appreciated :) Charmaine Charmaine Riley Holley familyhistorian@gmail.com