This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thomas, Washington, Asbury Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/744.1 Message Board Post: Hi..I am looking for information about my grandfather, James Thomas, born May 30, 1851 in Tippah Co. Miss. He married Ellen Washington, born in Calif. Don't know where they were married. They moved to Texas finally settling in Oklahoma. Thought there might be a connection to your John due to the close proximity of the dates of birth of John & James. Do you know John's parents names? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wilbanks Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/101.2.1 Message Board Post: Canfort is Comfort Wilbanks I am also reserching this line would love to see what all we have together this was my Gr Gr Granny. Would love to see your line on them Thank You, Susan Richardson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tippah County Records Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/975.1 Message Board Post: Here is the link to the genealogy web sight for tippah county maybe you could post a message to them they are all volenteers in tippah and might be interested in fixing your problem Dont know but since I to am researching online about surnames in tippah this news bothers me deeply Thank You for prior notice I was planning on visting next month now thinking more towards the summer when I will be able to spend more time looking. Thanks Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/976.1 Message Board Post: Thank you VERY VERY much !

I'd like to go down there at some point and take a look. It's only a little over an hour from me. Rhea

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/976 Message Board Post: Does anyone know the names of any siblings of Lila Telucia Butler and Mary Ardenia Butler. They were the daughters of Calvin McNair 'Dock' Butler. The Butlers lived at Hickory Flats, Tippah county, MS. ( later Benton county ) Lila Telucia Butler married Daniel Boone Bartlett 23 Dec 1890 in Benton county, MS. Mary Ardenia Butler married William Benjamin Rutherford.

>If an effort could be made to organize the rooms maybe then an ad could be >put in the local paper calling for any info to add, like maybe Bible >records or > church records. Would that be too goofy to ask? I'm not sure what the >protocol for something like that would be. Bible records and church records are not official records and should not be in the courthouse. The problem is they can't take care of the records they are charged with taking care of now. Those records should be in the library and on the MSGenWeb page which already has some of both and are looking for more donations. The web is really a better place for them since people can access them from anywhere in the world instead of having to go to that room. I am also trying to reconstruct marriage records burned when the Yankees burned the Tippah Co. Courthouse during the Civil War. While those records from the counties beginnings about 1836 to July 28, 1858 went up in smoke 331 of them have been reconstructed. By the way, the person who wrote the original message in this thread wrote it from the Tippah County Rootsweb page and it was gatewayed into this list. Since messages from this list is not gatewayed back to that list, that person is not seeing these messages unless he/she is on this list. Fred

>Certainly the local historical >society has not had the ability nor the stroke to get anything done! Let's not include the local historical society in the blame for this. In truth there is no such thing now. The society appears to be Tommy Covington at the library and Tom Childers who now lives in TN. The movers and shakers of the society have either died or are no longer active. Tommy Covington has done a good job of preserving the history the society left behind and wants to see their publications online. But the society has no members and no publication. The society does have a bank account and money from CD sales goes into it and it is used to help perserve records. Tommy Covington has used money from this fund to make copies for me to transcribe to put online. I have donated to the fund to repay it and hopefully keep it going. The people charged with the responsibility for the records are the Circuit and Chancery Clerks. But there isn't much they can do without the funding. The clerks take care of the current records but don't have the funds nor the man power to do anything about the older records. The county is losing out on some tourists business from genealogists because you can not go there in a few days and find anything. I found a book that listed my ancestors in early court records. I had a page of packet numbers and went there and tried to find them but was unable to find a single one. The packet numbers skipped right over the only numbers I was interested in. I assume they were out of order or missing. There were records all over the place not filed and it was dusty and probably well over 100 degrees on the hot summer day I was there. I was given the key and was under no supervision and could have taken anything I wanted but couldn't find anything I was interested in. Of course I would have had copies made and returned the originals. I was told that some records have been microfilmed. I know the Mormons did some of it. Apparently the records were in much better shape around the late 70's and 80's when the society was at its peak. They did a wonderful job with books such as the death records which is online. The MSGenWeb page has preserved a lot of their work with the help of Tommy Covington and Tom Childers and I would like to do more of it if I had the material to work with, but living in MD it isn't easy to get to the library. I have gone to the library several times on vacation and gotten copies to transcribe for the web page but have just about run out of new old material now. Someone going to Ripley for a few days to do genealogy would spend their time better going to the library, not the third floor of the courthouse. It truly is a lot cause. In my opinion it is already to late. This has been discussed here before and nothing ever came of it. Unfortunately not many of my ancestors came from where I live here in MD. I went to the MD Archives one time and they have armed guards and check you when you leave. I didn't like it but fully understand the reason for it. I have done research in old newspapers in Ashland and also in Senatobia. It really ticked me off to find articles cut out of 100 year old newspapers rather than getting a 10 cent copy of the article. Not only is the article gone forever but whatever was on the other side of that page as well. Papers were out of order and it was hard to find the paper for a given date. A cousin went with me when I was in Senatobia. She said I was leaving with the papers in better shape than when I arrived. Instead of being in a pile I organized them by date in a neat stack when I put them back. It wasn't a difficult thing to do and I had to hunt for a given paper anyway. Hopefully it made it easier for the next person to find what they wanted. I don't think anything will happen unless and until locals get involved. They are taxpayers and voters and are there to do things themselves and to see that they are done. The clerks should be leaders in this and if not, vote someone into office who has an appreciation for the older records. I have never understood why the the clerks can't find someone who would be interested in coming in once a week or so to look up records for people who write for them and charge enough to pay for a reasonable amount for their time. It is my understanding that the clerks can't do record lookups themselves by law. So far as I know the only way to get a copy of a record is to go there and copy it yourself assuming you can find it. If anyone local reads this and would care to do this service I will put their name, address, phone number and fee on the Tippah County Confederate page and I am sure Melissa would put it on the MSGenWeb Tippah County page as well. I have had many messages asking how they can get copies of records. Aside from making a few bucks, you would have the appreciation of those of us who live far away and are unable to get there ourselves. Fred

If an effort could be made to organize the rooms maybe then an ad could be put in the local paper calling for any info to add, like maybe Bible records or church records. Would that be too goofy to ask? I'm not sure what the protocol for something like that would be. Rhea

Being from Walnut, I also have seen the deplorable conditions. You might think the local chamber of commerce would seek the help of the local Boy Scouts, or student clubs, to get a number of them with adult supervision, and organize this mess. It certainly would not cost any money and it would certainly give visitors the idea that someone in the county actually cares. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that many of the old families of the county have died out and their ancestors have moved, just like my family did to Memphis, and other places. New arrivals have now taken over and have no records to survey, so it is not their problem. Certainly the local historical society has not had the ability nor the stroke to get anything done! Much the same thing could be said about the deplorable condition of many of the old cemeteries, most of these have by now been found and the same groups could start a preservation project for them also. I have done some of this myself. Certainly historic signs could be erected via state or federal monies so the old roads, cemeteries, churches, schools and vacated communities could be kept in perspective for future speculation. As it stands in another 40 years or so, most of the history of the county will only exist in a few books and family history studies. The relevance of these places will then be irrecoverably lost both for the historians but for the families who still reside there. All it would take is for some civic or business groups to organize, and make it part of their good deeds, sort of like a "we keep this highway clean" activity. Surely a group like the Scouts, the Beta Clubs, the Chambers of Commerce, as well as Masonic Lodges, and local churches could quickly take care of most of the problems within a year or two. I'd bet that within 50 years, the old downtown of Walnut will disappear completely as has that of Faulkner, Chalybeate Springs, Salem and dozens (hundreds) of other old towns and communities that have already decayed into oblivion. Even most of the old pioneer roads still exist, but until some group goes out an marks their old routes, they also will slowly disappear! This same thing is happening all over the country, and one day it will be too late to act. The county courthouse has burned before, how soon before it burns again? Are copies of the documents available? Are they archived? Copies should be made and sent to the Mississippi Department of Archives and History in Jackson, or to the University of Mississippi or Both! Will it burn Tomorrow? Maybe it would be best for everyone to steal their own records since it seems we cannot count on the elected officials, nor the Historical Society nor anyone else in the county or state to! NO, I am not advocating theft!, just a possible answer to a problem that can, under the present conditions, lead to the destruction , or loss of the few original records that still exist. Ron Hughes

How sad! I was there over 15 years ago and it was a bit of clutter then. I realize pid workers do not have time to organize that, but are there volunteers who could and would? Sibyl Slavin from Choctaw, Ok On 13 Mar 2005 17:51:39 -0700 nb7020@hotmail.com writes: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/975 > > Message Board Post: > > I visited the Tippah County courthouse this past week. I was able to > get a copy of a marriage record from 1859 from the Chancery Office, > which is across the street from the main courthouse. I was told > there was a packet of estate records listed for my ancestor, Thomas > Bryson, who died in 1859, located on the third floor attic of the > courthouse. > > I was shocked at the deplorable condition of this attic. Records and > old books were on the floor, in plastic garbage cans, and in boxes. > Nothing was organized. It looked like a rat's nest. Anyone can go in > there and take whatever they want, and nobody would ever know. A > female worker there told me Faulkner's estate packet was stolen. > > If you plan on visiting that courthouse, don't get your hopes up. I > never found Thomas Bryson's estate packet. It may have been stolen > or taken out and not returned to the right drawer. > > In some counties, the historical and genealogical societies have > gone in and organized the old records. I hope the folks in Tippah > County will look into this problem. > > > ==== MSTIPPAH Mailing List ==== > Send in your old photographs of Tippah County to include on our new > communities section. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/975 Message Board Post: I visited the Tippah County courthouse this past week. I was able to get a copy of a marriage record from 1859 from the Chancery Office, which is across the street from the main courthouse. I was told there was a packet of estate records listed for my ancestor, Thomas Bryson, who died in 1859, located on the third floor attic of the courthouse. I was shocked at the deplorable condition of this attic. Records and old books were on the floor, in plastic garbage cans, and in boxes. Nothing was organized. It looked like a rat's nest. Anyone can go in there and take whatever they want, and nobody would ever know. A female worker there told me Faulkner's estate packet was stolen. If you plan on visiting that courthouse, don't get your hopes up. I never found Thomas Bryson's estate packet. It may have been stolen or taken out and not returned to the right drawer. In some counties, the historical and genealogical societies have gone in and organized the old records. I hope the folks in Tippah County will look into this problem.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Adair, Haney, Franklin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iJB.2ACE/974 Message Board Post: I need help. I saw on FamilySearch.org where Samuel R. Lindley married Mahalia Robbins Adair in Tippah Co. MS on Dec. 19. 1861. I believe this to be incorrect. Mahalia Ann Robbins may have married at that time but I suspect she married an Adair fellow as her daughter, Martha Frances Adair was born sometime between 1861 and 1864. Mahala remarried Samuel R. Lindley May 6, 1866 in Itawamba Co. ANY help appreciated. This Adair fellow is my brick wall. Thanks so much!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/973 Message Board Post: Does any one know the history of New York cemetary near Ripley? My Ggrandfather James S. Carter and other family members are buried there. Is there a list filed somewhere of all the persons buried there? I suspect there may be graves there with missing headstones and possibly my GGgrandfather John F. Carter, who died in 1850 may be buried there. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

In my data base is an Albert Broadus Holley MCALLISTER/MCALISTER, born 1845, MS. He died in July, 1921. I have seen it spelled both ways. He married Mary Josephine MCKINNEY, a sister of my grandfather, John (J J) McKinney. I have a copy of a letter he wrote my grandmother when my grandfather died. They had served in the Civil War together. I show the parents of Mr McAllister as Robert McAllister and Mary W HOLLEY. Mr McAllister was a Dentist in Blue Mountain, Tippah County, MS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sibyl D. Slavin" <sib520@juno.com> To: <MSTIPPAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [MSTIPPAH-L] Holliday family >I too have the McAlister and Holiday's in my line. I met a grand-daughter > of JWP Holliday and still Correspond with some of the family. I can get > in touch with them, but not sure they can help. I live in Okla. Sibyl > > On 9 Mar 2005 01:29:23 -0700 jackdajaws@aol.com writes: >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Surnames: Hatcher, Holliday, McAlister, Bartlett,Yancey, Miller, >> Butler >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/972 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> I am seeking information about the family of William D. Holliday, >> b:1861. He lived in Tippah county until at least 1910 but later >> moved to Pontotoc county, MS. William was the son of John Wesley >> Penison Holliday and Rachel E. Wallace. William married Ida L. >> Purnell Apr 20 1890 in Tippah county and they had two sons, Willie >> and Talmage. After Ida died about 1900, William married Minnie Pace >> Feb 14 1901 in Tippah county. They had at least four children before >> 1910. Vivian, Grady, Hughey, and Lucille. Someone has told me that >> Grady and Hughey Holliday played basketball on a championship team >> in Pontotoc county. Any help would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> ==== MSTIPPAH Mailing List ==== >> "The South--where roots, place, family, and tradition are the >> essence of identity." >> --Social historian Carl N. Degler >> >> > > > ==== MSTIPPAH Mailing List ==== > Send in your old photographs of Tippah County to include on our new > communities section. > >

I too have the McAlister and Holiday's in my line. I met a grand-daughter of JWP Holliday and still Correspond with some of the family. I can get in touch with them, but not sure they can help. I live in Okla. Sibyl On 9 Mar 2005 01:29:23 -0700 jackdajaws@aol.com writes: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Hatcher, Holliday, McAlister, Bartlett,Yancey, Miller, > Butler > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/972 > > Message Board Post: > > I am seeking information about the family of William D. Holliday, > b:1861. He lived in Tippah county until at least 1910 but later > moved to Pontotoc county, MS. William was the son of John Wesley > Penison Holliday and Rachel E. Wallace. William married Ida L. > Purnell Apr 20 1890 in Tippah county and they had two sons, Willie > and Talmage. After Ida died about 1900, William married Minnie Pace > Feb 14 1901 in Tippah county. They had at least four children before > 1910. Vivian, Grady, Hughey, and Lucille. Someone has told me that > Grady and Hughey Holliday played basketball on a championship team > in Pontotoc county. Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > ==== MSTIPPAH Mailing List ==== > "The South--where roots, place, family, and tradition are the > essence of identity." > --Social historian Carl N. Degler > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hatcher, Holliday, McAlister, Bartlett,Yancey, Miller, Butler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iJB.2ACE/972 Message Board Post: I am seeking information about the family of William D. Holliday, b:1861. He lived in Tippah county until at least 1910 but later moved to Pontotoc county, MS. William was the son of John Wesley Penison Holliday and Rachel E. Wallace. William married Ida L. Purnell Apr 20 1890 in Tippah county and they had two sons, Willie and Talmage. After Ida died about 1900, William married Minnie Pace Feb 14 1901 in Tippah county. They had at least four children before 1910. Vivian, Grady, Hughey, and Lucille. Someone has told me that Grady and Hughey Holliday played basketball on a championship team in Pontotoc county. Any help would be appreciated.

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In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:37:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, Etwistedsister89@aol.com writes: Well it should get us talking <G> Eliz Yeah, really! I'm usually pretty quiet on here, but I do have two or three family lines that have made their way through Tippah County at one time or another. :) Rhea

In a message dated 3/1/2005 5:58:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Spunkyaviatrix@aol.com writes: It starts with P and goes through Z so I don't have A-O. I'm sorry about that. I guess I should've given that piece of info beforehand, huh? lol Well it should get us talking <G> Eliz