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    1. [MSSUNFLO] new list home is MS-SUNFLOWER
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. A new home for the Sunflower county mailing list has been set up. In a few minutes, I'll send out personal invitations to the subscribers of this list who wish to join the new group will be able to do so. I can not add members directly. It should be a link you can click that will let you 'accept' the invitation to join the new group. You may need to check your spam folder as I can't say when such will be delivered. If you don't find an invitation in your email you may also go to this site - https://groups.io/g/MS-SUNFLOWER and select Join Group. Of course, folks may still post to this list through 3/1. Tim Stowell

    02/10/2020 04:54:14
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Status of the Sunflower county mailing list - 2020
    2. Timothy Stowell
    3. As of now, the Sunflower county mailing list has 60 subscribers. In light of this list closing on March 2nd, with the full knowledge of the list owner - Susan Penn Groover, I have set up a new home for this list. I've recently set up similar homes for other Mississippi Rootsweb lists that will be going defunct next month. In my next email, later today, I'll send you further information regarding this and how to join the new home for this list. Tim Stowell Chattanooga

    02/10/2020 03:25:03
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Leave a Farewell Message
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan

    01/13/2020 12:30:56
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Ramblings from the Backseat
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

    01/12/2020 01:15:49
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

    01/11/2020 01:33:30
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

    01/10/2020 07:45:20
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Update
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Hi everyone! This has been heavy on my heart since Ancestry / Roots Web announcement. I have been admin / moderator for various mailing lists for 25+ years (some lists that predate Roots Web). The options for change do not fit my personal criteria. This is, also, not happening at a time I am able to give personal time for this change. Plus, I think Ancestry is not given an adequate “heads up” for this change. (I personally admin 200+ lists) So I have made the decision to become a subscriber as opposed to an administrator. I will remain admin to the mailing lists I currently admin till Roots Web makes the changes they propose on March 2^nd . I am leaving the decision for change to the list members. I am still gathering options. I will post suggestions in the next few days. The major option I am hearing is Facebook. I suppose this could work. But Facebook, in my humble opinion, would be turning a mailing list into a message board. And various mailing list members have stated they would not Facebook. Personally, I am in this bucket. I have personal issues with Facebook. Open discussion on the list. Voice your opinion. Enough for now. Will post more on other options in the future. Susan Penn Groover, List Administrator -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/09/2020 07:33:28
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Roots Web no longer supporting mailing list in March 2020
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. For those that have not heard the news ... Rootsweb will no longer be supporting mailing lists in March 2020.  It will remain read only, so archives will be accessible.  In my mind, I question how long. Please keep in mind that each mailing list archives is the property of RootsWeb and will not be able to moved, removed, etc. Only the mailing list members list will be accessible by the admin for that list. I am looking for alternatives which I have started listing below. Alternatives: Ancestry -- as I understand, this alternative is platform based. Meaning one would have to long into to post a message as opposed to simply sending an e-mail. Groups.io -- would keep mailing, but to get full function a fee would be required. Google Groups -- I have not researched this option.  Personally, I have issues with Google and will not pursue this option as admin. I suppose the major decision is whether to remain an e-mail based Group or platform based? My personal prerequisite is that it is FREE. Discussion in open... Susan Groover, List Admin. -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/08/2020 07:52:17
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON
    2. Wanda Carlton via
    3. Check and see if 1880 Lefore Co., MS. Census showing Adela Henson -- looks like this might be the same person Wanda Henson Carlton 1955 Graduate - Leland High School -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marion Webb via Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:14 PM To: johnnylumen; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON Good Evening, Mr. Mitchell: I did not see Arie Della Henson on the 1880 Sunflower Co., Census; but the 1900 Sunflower Co., Census shows her married to James Rule. Her parents are from Alabama. I keep coming up with a Della Henson, age 8, born <1872>, living in Caitlin, Vermillion Co., ILL; but surely, this is not our Eva Della. I tried all of our variations for Arie, Erie, and Eva, but to no avail. I looked at the 1900 enumeration for Erie; and I believe I see "Evie," as written by the enumerator, perhaps as a nick name or pet name that he heard during his visit with the family. You probably also know about James Rule's two brothers, Church and John, who are on the same 1900 census page with James. There is some interesting info in "Reflections of Bolivar County and Surrounding Area," Part 2, by the Bolivar Commercial newspaper in nearby Cleveland, MS. On page 14 is a picture of James Rule, second wife Lida Word Rule holding Baby Jane; and daughters Leathe , Elodie (mistakenly id'd as "Pinkie"), and Jim Word. On James's right is daughter Ruby by James's marriage to Eva Della Henson*. Pinkie was born later in 1920, and this photo was ca 1912, I think. You seem to have checked the Lehrton Cemetery records already, and I traveled around that area in 2003. My family lived in Cleveland from 1940 - 1943, and then we went to Indianola, down US 49 from Ruleville. I graduated from Greenville HS in 1955. Ruleville, home of the Rule Family from about 1870 forward, is just 8 miles east of Cleveland on HWY 8, receives good coverage from the Bolivar Commercial as does Drew which is north of Ruleville on US 49. *"J.W. "Jim" Rule married Eva Della Henson and they had a daughter, Ruby, who later married J.T. Davis." --- Page 88 of the aforementioned publication I hope I have provided some helpful info, but I can put fresh eyes on the Hensons tomorrow morning. Marion G. Webb, Jr. Formerly Indianola, Sunflower Co., MS Now Austell, Cobb Co., GA ----- Original Message ----- From: johnnylumen via<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:07 PM Subject: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON Searching for 1880 Sunflower Co. MS census for ARIE DILLA HENSON, aka ERIE DELLA HENSON b. July 1872 per 1900 census, but also b. 15 Aug 1871 per headstone -- d. 28 Oct 1901. m. to J.W. Rule 27 Dec 1890 as ARIE DELLA HENSON --- Tombstone says ERIE DILLA RULE. Searching for entire 1880 family details. Thank you. Steven Mitchell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2016 03:55:57
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON
    2. Wanda Carlton via
    3. W. Calvin Henson 12/8/1829 4/21/1913 Buried: Lehrton Cemetery in Ruleville, Sunflower Co., MS. Arie Della Henson m. James W. Rule on Dec 27, 1890 in Sunflower Co. MS. In 1900, Arie Della and James were living near the Villages of Drew and Ruleville in Sunflower Co., MS. Erie Dilla Rule Headstone Aug 15 1871 Oct 28 1901 Buried in Lehrton Cemetery in Ruleville, MS. 1880 Leflore Co., MS. Census W. C. Henson 45 born in Al. Mary Henson 47 born in Al. Virgin Mary 18 or 16 born in AL. Adela 11 born MS. Hope this might help Wanda Henson Carlton -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of johnnylumen via Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON Searching for 1880 Sunflower Co. MS census for ARIE DILLA HENSON, aka ERIE DELLA HENSON b. July 1872 per 1900 census, but also b. 15 Aug 1871 per headstone -- d. 28 Oct 1901. m. to J.W. Rule 27 Dec 1890 as ARIE DELLA HENSON --- Tombstone says ERIE DILLA RULE. Searching for entire 1880 family details. Thank you. Steven Mitchell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2016 03:52:25
    1. [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON
    2. johnnylumen via
    3. Searching for 1880 Sunflower Co. MS census for ARIE DILLA HENSON, aka ERIE DELLA HENSON b. July 1872 per 1900 census, but also b. 15 Aug 1871 per headstone  -- d. 28 Oct 1901. m. to J.W. Rule 27 Dec 1890 as ARIE DELLA HENSON --- Tombstone says ERIE DILLA RULE. Searching for entire 1880 family details. Thank you. Steven Mitchell

    08/04/2016 06:07:55
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON
    2. Marion Webb via
    3. Good Evening, Mr. Mitchell: I did not see Arie Della Henson on the 1880 Sunflower Co., Census; but the 1900 Sunflower Co., Census shows her married to James Rule. Her parents are from Alabama. I keep coming up with a Della Henson, age 8, born <1872>, living in Caitlin, Vermillion Co., ILL; but surely, this is not our Eva Della. I tried all of our variations for Arie, Erie, and Eva, but to no avail. I looked at the 1900 enumeration for Erie; and I believe I see "Evie," as written by the enumerator, perhaps as a nick name or pet name that he heard during his visit with the family. You probably also know about James Rule's two brothers, Church and John, who are on the same 1900 census page with James. There is some interesting info in "Reflections of Bolivar County and Surrounding Area," Part 2, by the Bolivar Commercial newspaper in nearby Cleveland, MS. On page 14 is a picture of James Rule, second wife Lida Word Rule holding Baby Jane; and daughters Leathe , Elodie (mistakenly id'd as "Pinkie"), and Jim Word. On James's right is daughter Ruby by James's marriage to Eva Della Henson*. Pinkie was born later in 1920, and this photo was ca 1912, I think. You seem to have checked the Lehrton Cemetery records already, and I traveled around that area in 2003. My family lived in Cleveland from 1940 - 1943, and then we went to Indianola, down US 49 from Ruleville. I graduated from Greenville HS in 1955. Ruleville, home of the Rule Family from about 1870 forward, is just 8 miles east of Cleveland on HWY 8, receives good coverage from the Bolivar Commercial as does Drew which is north of Ruleville on US 49. *"J.W. "Jim" Rule married Eva Della Henson and they had a daughter, Ruby, who later married J.T. Davis." --- Page 88 of the aforementioned publication I hope I have provided some helpful info, but I can put fresh eyes on the Hensons tomorrow morning. Marion G. Webb, Jr. Formerly Indianola, Sunflower Co., MS Now Austell, Cobb Co., GA ----- Original Message ----- From: johnnylumen via<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 8:07 PM Subject: [MSSUNFLO] SUNFLOWER CO MS 1880 CENSUS - HENSON Searching for 1880 Sunflower Co. MS census for ARIE DILLA HENSON, aka ERIE DELLA HENSON b. July 1872 per 1900 census, but also b. 15 Aug 1871 per headstone -- d. 28 Oct 1901. m. to J.W. Rule 27 Dec 1890 as ARIE DELLA HENSON --- Tombstone says ERIE DILLA RULE. Searching for entire 1880 family details. Thank you. Steven Mitchell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/04/2016 04:14:00
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. janicec60 via
    3. Thanks so much to all who responded to my request for Sunflower County information. It was certainly an eye opener as to record availability. We do appreciate your time and effort on our behalf. Sincerely, Janice Dale Morton -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/26/2016 03:20:23
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. Sue Knudsen via
    3. State Archives: [email protected], 601-576-6876 telephone, 601-576-6964 FAX http://zed.mdah.state.ms.us/ This is the link for Supreme Court cases. Click on it then scroll down to two boxes. Left one says Phrase Right one is blank. Click on blank and insert a surname you might be interested in. It then will take you to a complete listing of records you can order but you must fill out a request form then mail it then they send you back the costs for ordering. http://opac2.mdah.state.ms.us/courtname1.php?referer=http://zed.mdah.state.ms.us -----Original Message----- From: debowabo via <[email protected]> To: Wanda Carlton <[email protected]>; mssunflo <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 25, 2016 5:59 pm Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census >From the Mississippi State Department of Health: Older RecordsWe maintain birth and death records dating only from November 1912 and later. Earlier records of births and deaths may be kept in your county's archives.Also:List of Mississippi Counties with Burned CourthousesThe harm to Mississippi courthouses tremendously has a effect on family historians in almost every way. Not only are these historic structures torn from each of our lifetimes, so are the archives they kept: marriage, wills, probate, land records, as well as others. Once destroyed they are lost forever. Despite the fact that they happen to have been placed on mircofilm, computers and film burn too. The most tragic side of this is the reason why almost all of our courthouses are destroyed as a result of arsonist. Though, don’t assume all records were destroyed. Many Mississippi counties have dealt with a loss of records due to courthouse fires, floods, and theft.Alcorn County Courthouse – Corinth – Record Loss in 1917Attala County Courthouse – Kosciusko – 1858, 1860 and 1896Bolivar County Courthouse – Rosedale and Cleveland – Fire in 1863, Flood in 1865Calhoun County Courthouse – Pittsboro – Fire in 1922Chickasaw County Courthouse – Houston – Fire in 1863Choctaw County Courthouse – Ackerman – Fire 1874, 1888Covington County Courthouse – Collins – Record loss in 1904Desoto County Courthouse – Hernando – Record loss in 1940Franklin County Courthouse – Meadville – Fire in 1877Greene County Courthouse – Leakesville – Fire in 1875Holmes County Courthouse – A courthouse fire in 1884 destroyed many of the records, but the deeds were housed in a separate building and Will Book I was rescued.Jackson County Courthouse – Pascagoula – Fire in 1875Jefferson County Courthouse – Fayette – Record loss in 1904, Fire in 1990Jones County Courthouse – Laurel and Ellisville – Unknown DateKemper County Courthouse – DeKalb – Fire in 1882Lee County Courthouse – Tupelo – Fire in 1873 & 1904Lincoln County Courthouse – Brookhaven – Unknown 1893Montgomery County Courthouse – Winona – Record loss, 1903.Newton County Courthouse – Decatur – Record loss, 1877 and 1910.Oktibbeha County Courthouse – Starkville – Record loss, 1880.Panola County Courthouse – Sardis – Record loss, 1886Perry County Courthouse – New Augusta – Record loss, 1877Pike County Courthouse – Magnolia – Record loss, 1882Prentiss County Courthouse – Booneville – Record loss, 1912.Simpson County Courthouse – Mendenhall – Record loss, 1840, 1872Smith County Courthouse – Raleigh – Record loss, 1892, 1915Sunflower County Courthouse – Indianola – Record loss, 1870.Tallahatchie County Courthouse – Charleston/Sumner – Record loss at Sumner, 1908Tippah County Courthouse – Ripley – Record loss, 1863Union County Courthouse – New Albany – Record loss, 1882Wayne County Courthouse – Waynesboro – Record loss, 1892Thanks, Deb Moore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Wanda Carlton <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 5:27 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'debowabo' <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Mississippi became a state in Dec 10, 1817 - previously Indian Territory. Surely there are some records as late as you need - just tucked away unless they left the state. I looked up a few things on your Tucker/ family thru my resource and did not find anything - but not an intensive search. Checked Findagrave for Sunflower Co. Sorry I was unable to find anything.Have you looked at the Social Security Death Index ?W. CarltonNative MississippianMother born in Sunflower County.-----Original Message-----From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of debowabo viaSent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:04 PMTo: Sue Knudsen; [email protected]; [email protected]: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 censusI have ancestors in Sunflower County, too. I can tell you that Mississippi did not have birth or death records before 1912 (or 1918, my memory is questionable). My great grandfather died after that date, but they still did not have a record. My grandfather was born at home and didn't have a birth certificate. It can be really frustrating. They do have marriage records, land transfers, and wills.Deb Moore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Sue Knudsen via <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 8:36 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian! I live in Issaquah, WA. The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records. Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies. Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing. I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower. Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah-----Original Message-----From: janicec60 via <[email protected]>To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]>Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pmSubject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 censusDear Listers:I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following:* 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household.*Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.]*His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union.*1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed*John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research.Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with.Sincerely,Janice ConnellDale MortonWhidbey Island, Washington State -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 03:42:36
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. Sue Knudsen via
    3. The Archives has indexes for court records but they are not in Sunflower, they are in Jackson. Try calling them and talk with the genealogy dept. They can help you. Hope this helps, Sue K -----Original Message----- From: debowabo <[email protected]> To: Sue Knudsen <[email protected]>; mssunflo <[email protected]>; janicec60 <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 25, 2016 1:06 pm Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census I have ancestors in Sunflower County, too. I can tell you that Mississippi did not have birth or death records before 1912 (or 1918, my memory is questionable). My great grandfather died after that date, but they still did not have a record. My grandfather was born at home and didn't have a birth certificate. It can be really frustrating. They do have marriage records, land transfers, and wills. Deb Moore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Sue Knudsen via <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 8:36 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian! I live in Issaquah, WA. The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records. Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies. Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing. I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower. Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 03:27:56
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. debowabo via
    3. From the Mississippi State Department of Health:  Older RecordsWe maintain birth and death records dating only from November 1912 and later. Earlier records of births and deaths may be kept in your county's archives. Also: List of Mississippi Counties with Burned CourthousesThe harm to Mississippi courthouses tremendously has a effect on family historians in almost every way. Not only are these historic structures torn from each of our lifetimes, so are the archives they kept: marriage, wills, probate, land records, as well as others. Once destroyed they are lost forever. Despite the fact that they happen to have been placed on mircofilm, computers and film burn too. The most tragic side of this is the reason why almost all of our courthouses are destroyed as a result of arsonist. Though, don’t assume all records were destroyed. Many Mississippi counties have dealt with a loss of records due to courthouse fires, floods, and theft.Alcorn County Courthouse – Corinth – Record Loss in 1917Attala County Courthouse – Kosciusko – 1858, 1860 and 1896Bolivar County Courthouse – Rosedale and Cleveland – Fire in 1863, Flood in 1865Calhoun County Courthouse – Pittsboro – Fire in 1922Chickasaw County Courthouse – Houston – Fire in 1863Choctaw County Courthouse – Ackerman – Fire 1874, 1888Covington County Courthouse – Collins – Record loss in 1904Desoto County Courthouse – Hernando – Record loss in 1940Franklin County Courthouse – Meadville – Fire in 1877Greene County Courthouse – Leakesville – Fire in 1875Holmes County Courthouse – A courthouse fire in 1884 destroyed many of the records, but the deeds were housed in a separate building and Will Book I was rescued.Jackson County Courthouse – Pascagoula – Fire in 1875Jefferson County Courthouse – Fayette – Record loss in 1904, Fire in 1990Jones County Courthouse – Laurel and Ellisville – Unknown DateKemper County Courthouse – DeKalb – Fire in 1882Lee County Courthouse – Tupelo – Fire in 1873 & 1904Lincoln County Courthouse – Brookhaven – Unknown 1893Montgomery County Courthouse – Winona – Record loss, 1903.Newton County Courthouse – Decatur – Record loss, 1877 and 1910.Oktibbeha County Courthouse – S tarkville – Record loss, 1880.Panola County Courthouse – Sardis – Record loss, 1886Perry County Courthouse – New Augusta – Record loss, 1877Pike County Courthouse – Magnolia – Record loss, 1882Prentiss County Courthouse – Booneville – Record loss, 1912.Simpson County Courthouse – Mendenhall – Record loss, 1840, 1872Smith County Courthouse – Raleigh – Record loss, 1892, 1915Sunflower County Courthouse – Indianola – Record loss, 1870.Tallahatchie County Courthouse – Charleston/Sumner – Record loss at Sumner, 1908Tippah County Courthouse – Ripley – Record loss, 1863Union County Courthouse – New Albany – Record loss, 1882Wayne County Courthouse – Waynesboro – Record loss, 1892Thanks, Deb Moore  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Wanda Carlton <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 5:27 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'debowabo' <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: RE: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Mississippi became a state in Dec 10, 1817 - previously Indian Territory. Surely there are some records as late as you need - just tucked away unless they left the state. I looked up a few things on your Tucker/ family thru my resource and did not find anything - but not an intensive search. Checked Findagrave for Sunflower Co. Sorry I was unable to find anything. Have you looked at the Social Security Death Index ? W. Carlton Native Mississippian Mother born in Sunflower County. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of debowabo via Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:04 PM To: Sue Knudsen; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census I have ancestors in Sunflower County, too.  I can tell you that Mississippi did not have birth or death records before 1912 (or 1918, my memory is questionable).  My great grandfather died after that date, but they still did not have a record.   My grandfather was born at home and didn't have a birth certificate.   It can be really frustrating.   They do have marriage records, land transfers, and wills. Deb Moore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Sue Knudsen via <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16  8:36 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian!  I live in Issaquah, WA.  The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records.  Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies.  Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing.  I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower.  Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county.  We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker   b. 1902  possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday;  two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County.  My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 01:58:19
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. Wanda Carlton via
    3. Mississippi became a state in Dec 10, 1817 - previously Indian Territory. Surely there are some records as late as you need - just tucked away unless they left the state. I looked up a few things on your Tucker/ family thru my resource and did not find anything - but not an intensive search. Checked Findagrave for Sunflower Co. Sorry I was unable to find anything. Have you looked at the Social Security Death Index ? W. Carlton Native Mississippian Mother born in Sunflower County. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of debowabo via Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:04 PM To: Sue Knudsen; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census I have ancestors in Sunflower County, too. I can tell you that Mississippi did not have birth or death records before 1912 (or 1918, my memory is questionable). My great grandfather died after that date, but they still did not have a record. My grandfather was born at home and didn't have a birth certificate. It can be really frustrating. They do have marriage records, land transfers, and wills. Deb Moore Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Sue Knudsen via <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 8:36 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian! I live in Issaquah, WA. The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records. Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies. Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing. I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower. Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 11:27:00
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. debowabo via
    3. I have ancestors in Sunflower County, too.  I can tell you that Mississippi did not have birth or death records before 1912 (or 1918, my memory is questionable).  My great grandfather died after that date, but they still did not have a record.   My grandfather was born at home and didn't have a birth certificate.   It can be really frustrating.   They do have marriage records, land transfers, and wills. Deb Moore  Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Sue Knudsen via <[email protected]> Date: 5/25/16 8:36 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian!  I live in Issaquah, WA.  The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records.  Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies.  Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing.  I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower.  Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county.  We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker   b. 1902  possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday;  two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County.  My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 09:03:55
    1. Re: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. Sue Knudsen via
    3. Hello Janice and fellow Washingtonian! I live in Issaquah, WA. The best way I can suggest for you to find more info is go to the Mississippi Archives online and see court records. Theres an index of all cases online but you would need to input the particular last name in say Sunflower County which you might pull up some records then you would need to contact the Archives by phone and find out price for their research and copies. Takes a bit of time but that is what I just finished doing. I ordered over $150 worth of records which is giving me some good proof of my Rains in Sunflower. Good luck and happy hunting, Sue Knudsen, Issaquah -----Original Message----- From: janicec60 via <[email protected]> To: MSSUNFLO <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 11:41 pm Subject: [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/25/2016 03:36:35
    1. [MSSUNFLO] Earl Lee Tucker in 1920 census
    2. janicec60 via
    3. Dear Listers: I am helping my neighbor to research his mother's family tree and have traced their "Tucker" line to your county. We know the following: * 1920 census beat 5, Sunflower County shows Early L Tucker as 18 years old and the "head" of the household. *Earl Lee "Early" Tucker b. 1902 possibly in Sunflower County [or maybe Lauderdale Co.] *His mother was Annie Christina Ingram, age 48 in 1920 and a widow; her second marriage was to an Ace Holiday; two children Maggie b. 1907 and Earnest b. 1909 were born of this union. *1930 L. J. Tucker was married to Thelma Lee Wilson and they were in Meridian, Lauderdale; 1931 Greenwood Directory-they are listed *John William Tucker b. 1870 Mississippi and died about 1905 somewhere in Mississippi We are trying to find out what part of Mississippi Earl's father came from before coming to Sunflower County. My information is rather sketchy as we are just starting out on this research. Thanking you all in advance for whatever you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell Dale Morton Whidbey Island, Washington State

    05/24/2016 08:40:18