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Thank you Debi, I only noted two children of Daniel B. Griffen, James Andrew & Ira Lewis...and so your John Jefferson would be the youngest son of Daniel? I wonder if James and Ira both married sisters, James Mary Elizabeth Adkins, and Ira Martha A. Adkins? I have James Jefferson b. 4 Jan 1865 d 27 Jun 1948, married twice, Jane Blalock, and Mary Elizabeth Davidson...Do you have this family line? Who where the parents of his wives? Also was Nancy T. Rhodes parents in Neshoba Co.Ms? Thanks, Frances ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debi Campbell" <debigriff@chartermi.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family > Most definitely I'm related to this bunch! ha! > > My great-grandfather was John Jefferson GRIFFIN, younger brother to James > Andrew GRIFFIN. I descend from his second wife, Mary Jane PULLEN (the > PULLEN clan was also in Neshoba co.). > > I have > James Andrew GRIFFIN, b. abt 1829 Locust Grove, Henry, GA, m. 24 Dec 1851 > in > Henry co., GA; d. after 1880 probably in Neshoba co., MS. > > wife > Mary Elizabeth ADKINS > b. abt 1831 in Henry co., GA > d. aft 1880 in Neshoba co., MS > > Children: > > Francis A. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1851 > Elizabeth J. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1854 > Catherine A. T. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1856 > Cordelia A. A. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1858 > Thomas D. GRIFFIN, b. Jul 1861 > Nancy P. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1862 > James Jefferson GRIFFIN, b. abt 1864 > Luziah/Liziah GRIFFIN, b. abt 1869 > > I have info on descendants of Thomas D. GRIFFIN and James Jefferson > GRIFFIN. > > Do you have more info on the descendants of James Andrew GRIFFIN? > > James Andrew GRIFFIN's parents were Daniel Boone GRIFFIN and Nancy T. > RHODES. > > I have a lot of notes on my research into Daniel's ancestry, but no > concrete > proof of parents. > > I do have concrete proof of Nancy T. RHODES' parents, though. They were > Samuel RHODES and Abigail Guellea (Julia) HEFLIN. > > I'd love to share info with you. > > Debi Griffin Campbell > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frances Gandy-Walsh" <elchico@citlink.net> > To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family > > >> Debi, Happy Thanksgiving... >> who are your Neshoba Co. Ms. Griffin's? >> I show James Andrew Griffin b. 1829 Ga. md. Elizabeth Adkins, and had >> Frances, Elizabeth, Catherine, Cordelia, Thomas D., James Jeff, Nancy > Jane, >> and Louisa/Lou?.. >> >> Anny connections to this line? >> >> thanks, Frances >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Debi Campbell" <debigriff@chartermi.net> >> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:39 AM >> Subject: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family >> >> >> > Hi, all... and Happy Thanksgiving! >> > >> > I am trying to find out more about George W. GRIFFIN and his family who >> > lived in Newton county. Here's what little I do know: >> > >> > George W. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1879 in North Carolina >> > d. bet 1924-1930 in Newton co., Mississippi >> > Father b. VA; mother b. NC. >> > Married possibly in SC bef 1905. >> > In 1623 Militia District, Turner co., Georgia in 1910, George was the >> > owner of a saw mill. >> > In Newton county, Mississippi in 1920, George was the proprietor of a >> > lumber mill. >> > >> > Mattie E. _____ >> > b. abt 1880/1881 in Tennessee >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, Mississippi) >> > Parents b. TN. >> > >> > Children: >> > >> > George H. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1905 in SC >> > d. aft 1930 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1930 census) >> > >> > Edna V.? GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1908 GA >> > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) >> > >> > Carry M. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1911 (1623 Militia District, Turner co.), Georgia >> > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) >> > >> > John L. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1914 MS (Newton co.?) >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) >> > >> > Vera GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1917 MS (Newton co.?) >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) >> > >> > Pat W. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1919 MS (Newton co.?) >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) >> > >> > Nick GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1921 MS (Newton co.?) >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) >> > >> > Jane G. GRIFFIN >> > b. abt 1924 MS (Newton co.?) >> > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) >> > >> > If anybody has any info on this family, I would appreciate it. I'm > trying >> > to determine if there is a connection between this family and my > GRIFFINs >> > living in Neshoba county. >> > >> > Thanks! >> > Debi Griffin Campbell >> > >> > >> > >

Most definitely I'm related to this bunch! ha! My great-grandfather was John Jefferson GRIFFIN, younger brother to James Andrew GRIFFIN. I descend from his second wife, Mary Jane PULLEN (the PULLEN clan was also in Neshoba co.). I have James Andrew GRIFFIN, b. abt 1829 Locust Grove, Henry, GA, m. 24 Dec 1851 in Henry co., GA; d. after 1880 probably in Neshoba co., MS. wife Mary Elizabeth ADKINS b. abt 1831 in Henry co., GA d. aft 1880 in Neshoba co., MS Children: Francis A. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1851 Elizabeth J. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1854 Catherine A. T. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1856 Cordelia A. A. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1858 Thomas D. GRIFFIN, b. Jul 1861 Nancy P. GRIFFIN, b. abt 1862 James Jefferson GRIFFIN, b. abt 1864 Luziah/Liziah GRIFFIN, b. abt 1869 I have info on descendants of Thomas D. GRIFFIN and James Jefferson GRIFFIN. Do you have more info on the descendants of James Andrew GRIFFIN? James Andrew GRIFFIN's parents were Daniel Boone GRIFFIN and Nancy T. RHODES. I have a lot of notes on my research into Daniel's ancestry, but no concrete proof of parents. I do have concrete proof of Nancy T. RHODES' parents, though. They were Samuel RHODES and Abigail Guellea (Julia) HEFLIN. I'd love to share info with you. Debi Griffin Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Gandy-Walsh" <elchico@citlink.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family > Debi, Happy Thanksgiving... > who are your Neshoba Co. Ms. Griffin's? > I show James Andrew Griffin b. 1829 Ga. md. Elizabeth Adkins, and had > Frances, Elizabeth, Catherine, Cordelia, Thomas D., James Jeff, Nancy Jane, > and Louisa/Lou?.. > > Anny connections to this line? > > thanks, Frances > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Debi Campbell" <debigriff@chartermi.net> > To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:39 AM > Subject: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family > > > > Hi, all... and Happy Thanksgiving! > > > > I am trying to find out more about George W. GRIFFIN and his family who > > lived in Newton county. Here's what little I do know: > > > > George W. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1879 in North Carolina > > d. bet 1924-1930 in Newton co., Mississippi > > Father b. VA; mother b. NC. > > Married possibly in SC bef 1905. > > In 1623 Militia District, Turner co., Georgia in 1910, George was the > > owner of a saw mill. > > In Newton county, Mississippi in 1920, George was the proprietor of a > > lumber mill. > > > > Mattie E. _____ > > b. abt 1880/1881 in Tennessee > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, Mississippi) > > Parents b. TN. > > > > Children: > > > > George H. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1905 in SC > > d. aft 1930 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1930 census) > > > > Edna V.? GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1908 GA > > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) > > > > Carry M. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1911 (1623 Militia District, Turner co.), Georgia > > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) > > > > John L. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1914 MS (Newton co.?) > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > > > Vera GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1917 MS (Newton co.?) > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > > > Pat W. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1919 MS (Newton co.?) > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > > > Nick GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1921 MS (Newton co.?) > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > > > Jane G. GRIFFIN > > b. abt 1924 MS (Newton co.?) > > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > > > If anybody has any info on this family, I would appreciate it. I'm trying > > to determine if there is a connection between this family and my GRIFFINs > > living in Neshoba county. > > > > Thanks! > > Debi Griffin Campbell > > > > >

Hi, all... and Happy Thanksgiving! I am trying to find out more about George W. GRIFFIN and his family who lived in Newton county. Here's what little I do know: George W. GRIFFIN b. abt 1879 in North Carolina d. bet 1924-1930 in Newton co., Mississippi Father b. VA; mother b. NC. Married possibly in SC bef 1905. In 1623 Militia District, Turner co., Georgia in 1910, George was the owner of a saw mill. In Newton county, Mississippi in 1920, George was the proprietor of a lumber mill. Mattie E. _____ b. abt 1880/1881 in Tennessee d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, Mississippi) Parents b. TN. Children: George H. GRIFFIN b. abt 1905 in SC d. aft 1930 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1930 census) Edna V.? GRIFFIN b. abt 1908 GA d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) Carry M. GRIFFIN b. abt 1911 (1623 Militia District, Turner co.), Georgia d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) John L. GRIFFIN b. abt 1914 MS (Newton co.?) d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) Vera GRIFFIN b. abt 1917 MS (Newton co.?) d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) Pat W. GRIFFIN b. abt 1919 MS (Newton co.?) d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) Nick GRIFFIN b. abt 1921 MS (Newton co.?) d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) Jane G. GRIFFIN b. abt 1924 MS (Newton co.?) d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) If anybody has any info on this family, I would appreciate it. I'm trying to determine if there is a connection between this family and my GRIFFINs living in Neshoba county. Thanks! Debi Griffin Campbell

Debi, Happy Thanksgiving... who are your Neshoba Co. Ms. Griffin's? I show James Andrew Griffin b. 1829 Ga. md. Elizabeth Adkins, and had Frances, Elizabeth, Catherine, Cordelia, Thomas D., James Jeff, Nancy Jane, and Louisa/Lou?.. Anny connections to this line? thanks, Frances ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debi Campbell" <debigriff@chartermi.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:39 AM Subject: [MSNEWTON] George W. GRIFFIN and family > Hi, all... and Happy Thanksgiving! > > I am trying to find out more about George W. GRIFFIN and his family who > lived in Newton county. Here's what little I do know: > > George W. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1879 in North Carolina > d. bet 1924-1930 in Newton co., Mississippi > Father b. VA; mother b. NC. > Married possibly in SC bef 1905. > In 1623 Militia District, Turner co., Georgia in 1910, George was the > owner of a saw mill. > In Newton county, Mississippi in 1920, George was the proprietor of a > lumber mill. > > Mattie E. _____ > b. abt 1880/1881 in Tennessee > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, Mississippi) > Parents b. TN. > > Children: > > George H. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1905 in SC > d. aft 1930 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1930 census) > > Edna V.? GRIFFIN > b. abt 1908 GA > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) > > Carry M. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1911 (1623 Militia District, Turner co.), Georgia > d. aft 1920 (lived in Newton co., MS in 1920) > > John L. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1914 MS (Newton co.?) > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > Vera GRIFFIN > b. abt 1917 MS (Newton co.?) > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > Pat W. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1919 MS (Newton co.?) > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > Nick GRIFFIN > b. abt 1921 MS (Newton co.?) > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > Jane G. GRIFFIN > b. abt 1924 MS (Newton co.?) > d. aft 1930 (of , Newton, MS) > > If anybody has any info on this family, I would appreciate it. I'm trying > to determine if there is a connection between this family and my GRIFFINs > living in Neshoba county. > > Thanks! > Debi Griffin Campbell > >

Anyone have Alice A. Risher b ca 1856, MS married to Samuel Grayson b ca 1853, MS. Children Bruce Oscar b ca 1875, MS/Dollie C b ca 1877, MS & Jesse Edward b 21 Apr 1880, Clarke Co., MS Frann Risher Smith Clark

I am trying to locate a cousin. I have very little information. Her name is Rachel Parkerson. I was told she was living in Decatur, Ms. when she died. I do not know who she married. She had 2 girls and some grandchildren. Her mother was Mable Hodges Parkerson Mangum. I do not know if her mom and stepdad Thomas Tyndal Mangum lived in Decatur, Ms. or not. I know this is a shot in the dark but would appreciate any information. Thanks. Faye Johnston

Hi, all! Mary E.S. Williams married John T. Hunter. The Hunters owned a hotel in Newton. Census records show that the hotel was in their ownership from 1910 through 1930 according to the US Census. Is anyone aware of the identity of this hotel? Is it possible to obtain a Newton City Directory for this time period which might disclose the hotel's name? Any help would be appreciated. Charles

I just want to warn everybody so they won't be as foolish as I have been. When I get a credit card bill, I just pay it. I don't pour over it line by line. No more. Because of that, I didn't realize that I was being billed every month for $14.95 from One Great Family. They're a genealogy website. I was one of the charter members, so my access was supposed to be "free." Not so. They've been billing me all this time, even though I have not even looked at the website since I first signed on... about five years ago. Now they refuse any refund and were not very nice when responding to my query. They used a "backdoor" approach to this whole thing. I'm angry about it, but I'm also angry at myself for not being more careful. I just want to warn everybody else out there not to make the same mistake I did. From now on, I am looking at EVERY WORD on my credit card bills!!!!

Could anyone tell me who the daughter of Agnes Graham and Henry Grady Rush was? They had 2 daughters, one Racheal, married Richard Sorey, the other one was Mary Day, I have no information on her, and know that she moved west. I do not even have the date of her birth, but there are some people who remember her, but cannot give me anymore. Thanks for any information. Carolyn James Lane

Can anyone shed any light for me on John R. Cox in the 1870 Census, in Newton County. He was my 3G grandfather and I have not been able to find any records on his parents. He was born in approximately 1802-1804 (according to various census records). He is listed as either born in South Carolina or Georgia, with South Carolina being slightly more likely. He was a Reverend. One of my relatives has a document in her possession that states that he was ordained a deacon in the Methodist Episcopal Church, South by Bishop Robert Paine at the Mississippi Conference at Macon (Noxubee?), Mississippi on 27 November, 1858. He is listed in later years as Rev. John R. Cox, the R. apparently standing for Richard. He left South Carolina, in his words, an orphan, in the company of his uncle and family. The uncle's name was John D. Wylie (possibly Wynn or Wyatt, but evidence is convincing that it was Wylie). They traveled to Huntsville, Alabama in 1818. In 1824, he moved to Tuscaloosa area of Alabama and in 1827 married Eliza Eads (whose last name has been spelled at least four different ways). Washington Ware Cox and Margaret Cox, his last two children are still living with him in 1870. The parents then went on to Texas and Washington Ware stayed behind. He married Julia Ann Hopkins, had my great grandfather James O. Cox, who had my grandfather James O. Cox (Little Jimmy) who lived in Brandon and Hattiesburg, and then my dad, James O. Cox (Jim) who lived in Brandon and Hattiesburg and now resides in California. I would be extremely grateful for any information regarding John R. Cox. Greg Cox

Page 111 of Clarke Co., MS WPA materials Deed Book B--287 Dower of Sarah Fountain, wife of Thomas A. Fountain. (signed) Sarah (X) Fountain. Recorded June 1, 1839. W. F. Green, clerk Thomas A. Fontaine died May 1846 in Clarke Co., MS page 112--Clarke Co. WPA materials--Deed Book B 287 Dower of Lucy Richer, wife of James Richer, Jr. (signed) Lucy (X) Risher. Recorded June 1, 1839. W. F. Green, clerk James Risher, Jr., died 15 September 1851. Frann Risher Smith Clark

I like to send out my names every few months in case someone has a new connection. Mother--Myrtle Risher of Jasper & Clarke Co., MS--paternal lines--Risher, Morgan, Fontaine, Terral, Land, Gavin, Whitlock Mother--Myrtle Risher--maternal lines--Risher, James, Johnston, McLemore, Fontaine, Robinson, Nobles Frann Risher Smith Clark

Catherine, I would like to have a copy of your letters and would appreciate you sending them to me. Should I come across any of Stephen C. Williams' ancestors I will email you with my find. It is always better to have more than one set of eyes looking! Thank you, again! Charles On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 06:42 AM, Catherine Cooper wrote: > Charles, > > Thank you for this detailed information. Very interesting. I have > Clarks and > Jones in my Williams line also. > > I have two letters from Eunice Stewart Goddard written to my Mother in > the > 1980s. Mrs. Stoddard was a granddaughter of Martha Jane Williams and > Little > Page Sims (thus a great granddaughter of Anderson Williams). I can scan > these and send to you directly if you would like them. She mentions an > obituary for "Aunt Mary Williams Hunter." > > Catherine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> > To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Williams' Descendants > > >> Catherine: >> >> Thank you for posting the Anderson Williams descendants. The >> information corroborates much of what I have. Sure am glad to get your >> history for it will be a great help in sourcing and further research. >> >> Below is what I have on the Anderson Williams line. Most of the >> information is sourced to a written history maintained by Inez Morgan >> Smith, the dau of Sophie Cornelia Ratheal Morgan. It appears to >> substantiate the information that you previously posted. >> >> In another email, I will post a picture that I have of Susan Roberta >> Williams with her daughter, grand daughter, and g-grandson. The >> picture >> was published in the Altus, OK newspaper on 8/3/1939. >> >> Thanks again and best wishes in your search. >> >> Charles >> >> >> Anderson WILLIAMS >> b. 28 Apr 1821, Sctoland >> d. 2 Feb 1891, Newton, Newton Co, MS >> & Mary Ann SMITH >> b. 10 Dec 1830, Ireland >> d. 27 Feb 1878, Newton, Newton Co, MS >> | William Marshall WILLIAMS* >> | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia >> | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX >> | & Celesta Ladora JURDON >> | b. 30 Apr 1841, Jurdon Mills, So. Carolina >> | d. 12 Jun 1885, Carlton, TX >> | m. 6 Nov 1865 >> | | Charles (Charlie) Clark WILLIAMS >> | | b. 24 Apr 1868, Clarksville, TX >> | | Mary Ladora WILLIAMS >> | | b. 19 Jan 1871, Pearce, TX >> | | Alma Elizabeth WILLIAMS >> | | b. 26 Apr 1873 >> | | Maud Myrtle WILLIAMS >> | | b. 13 Jan 1879, Carlton, TX >> | | d. 21 Mar 1956 >> | | & McMURRAY >> | | Willie Etta WILLIAMS >> | | b. 1 Oct 1881, Carlton, TX >> | | & James Rucker WRIGHT >> | | b. 18 Jun 1884 >> | | d. 8 Feb 1936 >> | William Marshall WILLIAMS* >> | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia >> | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX >> | & Edna Lenora LASSWELL >> | d. 1918 >> | m. 1886 >> | | Annie Celesta WILLIAMS >> | | b. 19 Nov 1886 >> | | & Thomas Andrew JONES >> | | b. 21 Dec 1881 >> | | m. 1906 >> | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* >> | | b. 30 Aug 1889 >> | | & Charles THREADGILL >> | | m. 28 Oct 1908 >> | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* >> | | b. 30 Aug 1889 >> | | & Will S. COZBY >> | | b. 21 Mar 1880 >> | | m. 22 May 1913 >> | | Josie Sallie WILLIAMS >> | | b. 27 Oct 1891 >> | | & Samuel George COZBY >> | | b. 10 Nov 1890 >> | | m. 22 Aug 1912 >> | | Jessie Mishey WILLIAMS >> | | b. 3 May 1893 >> | | & Ernest ATKINS >> | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* >> | | b. 20 Jul 1895 >> | | & DACON >> | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* >> | | b. 20 Jul 1895 >> | | & WHITTINGTON >> | Sarah (Sallie) Ann Elizabeth WILLIAMS >> | b. 10 Aug 1850, Georgia >> | d. 18 May 1937, Clovis, Curry County, NM >> | & Walter Johnas (Jonas) RATHEAL >> | b. 8 Jan 1846, South Carolina >> | d. 24 Aug 1895, Leroy, McLenann Co., TX >> | m. Dec 1869, Newton, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | Mollie E. RATHEAL >> | | b. 9 Sep 1870, Mississippi >> | | d. 15 Nov 1963, Clovis, NM >> | | & Robert E. Lee OVERSTREET >> | | b. 4 Jan 1871, Missouri >> | | d. 16 Jun 1958 >> | | m. 11 Dec 1892 >> | | Sarah Jenie RATHEAL >> | | b. 29 Jun 1872, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | d. 29 Aug 1895, McClellan Co., TX >> | | Minnie Lee RATHEAL >> | | b. 19 Jun 1874, Mississippi >> | | d. 11 Jan 1960 >> | | & Charles (Charlie) Walter TISDALE >> | | b. 31 Dec 1871 >> | | d. 1948, Houston, TX >> | | m. 22 Nov 1893 >> | | John (Johnny) RATHEAL >> | | b. 1876 >> | | d. 1876 >> | | Sophie Cornelia (Nealy) RATHEAL >> | | b. 5 Jul 1877, Mississippi >> | | d. 24 Jun 1963, Mangum, Greer Co, OK >> | | & James (Jim) Martin MORGAN >> | | b. 20 Apr 1871, Alabama >> | | d. 3 Apr 1949, Mangum, Greer Co, OK >> | | m. 20 Dec 1894, Olive Brnch, McLellan Co. TX >> | | Emma Jessie RATHEAL >> | | b. 4 Jul 1879, Newton, Mississippi >> | | d. 16 Jan 1961, Clovis, Curry County, NM >> | | & Richard Riley GRESSETT >> | | b. 1873, MS >> | | d. 2 Oct 1939, Phoenix, AZ >> | | m. 15 Dec 1895, McLennan Co. TX >> | | Walter Perry RATHEAL >> | | b. 28 Jul 1881, Newton County, MS >> | | d. 9 Dec 1978, Crosbyton, Crosby Cnty, TX >> | | & Emma Daisy BRADBERRY >> | | b. 26 Apr 1883, Choctaw County, MS >> | | d. 23 Aug 1972, Crobsyton, Crosby Cnty, TX >> | | m. 19 Aug 1900, Olive Branch, TX >> | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* >> | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK >> | | & Mary J. HAMLIN >> | | b. 10 Nov 1887, Missouri >> | | d. 17 Dec 1926, Crosybyton, Tx >> | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* >> | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK >> | | & Ivy Bell SOLLOCK >> | | b. 19 Jan 1889, Iola, Grimes Co., TX >> | | d. 13 Jan 1983, La Mesa, Dawson Co., TX >> | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* >> | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK >> | | & Florence HAWKINS >> | | b. 1887 >> | | m. 8 Oct 1903, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK >> | | Luvenia B. (Lula) RATHEAL >> | | b. 12 Dec 1885, MS >> | | d. 1 May 1944 >> | | & John SIMPLER >> | | b. 22 Jul 1870, Alabama >> | | d. 6 Dec 1930 >> | | m. 24 Oct 1904, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK >> | | Annie Lee RATHEAL >> | | b. 9 May 1888, Mississippi >> | | d. 19 Jun 1965, Clovis, NM >> | | & Wharner Brown CHRISTOPHER >> | | b. 20 Nov 1883 >> | | d. 10 Apr 1955, Clovis, NM >> | | m. Oct 1906 >> | | Edna Dollie RATHEAL >> | | b. 9 Apr 1890, Newton, Mississippi >> | | d. 19 Apr 1983, San Diego, San Diego County, CA >> | | & Frederick Charles WILLS >> | | b. 21 May 1887, Mexico >> | | d. 19 Aug 1947, San Diego, CA >> | | m. 8 Nov 1906, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK >> | John A. WILLIAMS >> | b. 1854, Georgia >> | & Susan >> | | Charles (Charlie) M. WILLIAMS >> | | b. 4 Mar 1878, Newton County, Mississippi >> | | d. 12 Jul 1879, Newton County, Mississippi >> | Lee WILLIAMS >> | Mattie WILLIAMS >> | & SIMS >> | Mary WILLIAMS >> | & HUNTER >> >

Charles, Thank you for this detailed information. Very interesting. I have Clarks and Jones in my Williams line also. I have two letters from Eunice Stewart Goddard written to my Mother in the 1980s. Mrs. Stoddard was a granddaughter of Martha Jane Williams and Little Page Sims (thus a great granddaughter of Anderson Williams). I can scan these and send to you directly if you would like them. She mentions an obituary for "Aunt Mary Williams Hunter." Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Williams' Descendants > Catherine: > > Thank you for posting the Anderson Williams descendants. The > information corroborates much of what I have. Sure am glad to get your > history for it will be a great help in sourcing and further research. > > Below is what I have on the Anderson Williams line. Most of the > information is sourced to a written history maintained by Inez Morgan > Smith, the dau of Sophie Cornelia Ratheal Morgan. It appears to > substantiate the information that you previously posted. > > In another email, I will post a picture that I have of Susan Roberta > Williams with her daughter, grand daughter, and g-grandson. The picture > was published in the Altus, OK newspaper on 8/3/1939. > > Thanks again and best wishes in your search. > > Charles > > > Anderson WILLIAMS > b. 28 Apr 1821, Sctoland > d. 2 Feb 1891, Newton, Newton Co, MS > & Mary Ann SMITH > b. 10 Dec 1830, Ireland > d. 27 Feb 1878, Newton, Newton Co, MS > | William Marshall WILLIAMS* > | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia > | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX > | & Celesta Ladora JURDON > | b. 30 Apr 1841, Jurdon Mills, So. Carolina > | d. 12 Jun 1885, Carlton, TX > | m. 6 Nov 1865 > | | Charles (Charlie) Clark WILLIAMS > | | b. 24 Apr 1868, Clarksville, TX > | | Mary Ladora WILLIAMS > | | b. 19 Jan 1871, Pearce, TX > | | Alma Elizabeth WILLIAMS > | | b. 26 Apr 1873 > | | Maud Myrtle WILLIAMS > | | b. 13 Jan 1879, Carlton, TX > | | d. 21 Mar 1956 > | | & McMURRAY > | | Willie Etta WILLIAMS > | | b. 1 Oct 1881, Carlton, TX > | | & James Rucker WRIGHT > | | b. 18 Jun 1884 > | | d. 8 Feb 1936 > | William Marshall WILLIAMS* > | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia > | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX > | & Edna Lenora LASSWELL > | d. 1918 > | m. 1886 > | | Annie Celesta WILLIAMS > | | b. 19 Nov 1886 > | | & Thomas Andrew JONES > | | b. 21 Dec 1881 > | | m. 1906 > | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* > | | b. 30 Aug 1889 > | | & Charles THREADGILL > | | m. 28 Oct 1908 > | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* > | | b. 30 Aug 1889 > | | & Will S. COZBY > | | b. 21 Mar 1880 > | | m. 22 May 1913 > | | Josie Sallie WILLIAMS > | | b. 27 Oct 1891 > | | & Samuel George COZBY > | | b. 10 Nov 1890 > | | m. 22 Aug 1912 > | | Jessie Mishey WILLIAMS > | | b. 3 May 1893 > | | & Ernest ATKINS > | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* > | | b. 20 Jul 1895 > | | & DACON > | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* > | | b. 20 Jul 1895 > | | & WHITTINGTON > | Sarah (Sallie) Ann Elizabeth WILLIAMS > | b. 10 Aug 1850, Georgia > | d. 18 May 1937, Clovis, Curry County, NM > | & Walter Johnas (Jonas) RATHEAL > | b. 8 Jan 1846, South Carolina > | d. 24 Aug 1895, Leroy, McLenann Co., TX > | m. Dec 1869, Newton, Newton County, Mississippi > | | Mollie E. RATHEAL > | | b. 9 Sep 1870, Mississippi > | | d. 15 Nov 1963, Clovis, NM > | | & Robert E. Lee OVERSTREET > | | b. 4 Jan 1871, Missouri > | | d. 16 Jun 1958 > | | m. 11 Dec 1892 > | | Sarah Jenie RATHEAL > | | b. 29 Jun 1872, Newton County, Mississippi > | | d. 29 Aug 1895, McClellan Co., TX > | | Minnie Lee RATHEAL > | | b. 19 Jun 1874, Mississippi > | | d. 11 Jan 1960 > | | & Charles (Charlie) Walter TISDALE > | | b. 31 Dec 1871 > | | d. 1948, Houston, TX > | | m. 22 Nov 1893 > | | John (Johnny) RATHEAL > | | b. 1876 > | | d. 1876 > | | Sophie Cornelia (Nealy) RATHEAL > | | b. 5 Jul 1877, Mississippi > | | d. 24 Jun 1963, Mangum, Greer Co, OK > | | & James (Jim) Martin MORGAN > | | b. 20 Apr 1871, Alabama > | | d. 3 Apr 1949, Mangum, Greer Co, OK > | | m. 20 Dec 1894, Olive Brnch, McLellan Co. TX > | | Emma Jessie RATHEAL > | | b. 4 Jul 1879, Newton, Mississippi > | | d. 16 Jan 1961, Clovis, Curry County, NM > | | & Richard Riley GRESSETT > | | b. 1873, MS > | | d. 2 Oct 1939, Phoenix, AZ > | | m. 15 Dec 1895, McLennan Co. TX > | | Walter Perry RATHEAL > | | b. 28 Jul 1881, Newton County, MS > | | d. 9 Dec 1978, Crosbyton, Crosby Cnty, TX > | | & Emma Daisy BRADBERRY > | | b. 26 Apr 1883, Choctaw County, MS > | | d. 23 Aug 1972, Crobsyton, Crosby Cnty, TX > | | m. 19 Aug 1900, Olive Branch, TX > | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* > | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi > | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK > | | & Mary J. HAMLIN > | | b. 10 Nov 1887, Missouri > | | d. 17 Dec 1926, Crosybyton, Tx > | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* > | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi > | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK > | | & Ivy Bell SOLLOCK > | | b. 19 Jan 1889, Iola, Grimes Co., TX > | | d. 13 Jan 1983, La Mesa, Dawson Co., TX > | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* > | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi > | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK > | | & Florence HAWKINS > | | b. 1887 > | | m. 8 Oct 1903, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK > | | Luvenia B. (Lula) RATHEAL > | | b. 12 Dec 1885, MS > | | d. 1 May 1944 > | | & John SIMPLER > | | b. 22 Jul 1870, Alabama > | | d. 6 Dec 1930 > | | m. 24 Oct 1904, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK > | | Annie Lee RATHEAL > | | b. 9 May 1888, Mississippi > | | d. 19 Jun 1965, Clovis, NM > | | & Wharner Brown CHRISTOPHER > | | b. 20 Nov 1883 > | | d. 10 Apr 1955, Clovis, NM > | | m. Oct 1906 > | | Edna Dollie RATHEAL > | | b. 9 Apr 1890, Newton, Mississippi > | | d. 19 Apr 1983, San Diego, San Diego County, CA > | | & Frederick Charles WILLS > | | b. 21 May 1887, Mexico > | | d. 19 Aug 1947, San Diego, CA > | | m. 8 Nov 1906, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK > | John A. WILLIAMS > | b. 1854, Georgia > | & Susan > | | Charles (Charlie) M. WILLIAMS > | | b. 4 Mar 1878, Newton County, Mississippi > | | d. 12 Jul 1879, Newton County, Mississippi > | Lee WILLIAMS > | Mattie WILLIAMS > | & SIMS > | Mary WILLIAMS > | & HUNTER >

Catherine: Thank you for posting the Anderson Williams descendants. The information corroborates much of what I have. Sure am glad to get your history for it will be a great help in sourcing and further research. Below is what I have on the Anderson Williams line. Most of the information is sourced to a written history maintained by Inez Morgan Smith, the dau of Sophie Cornelia Ratheal Morgan. It appears to substantiate the information that you previously posted. In another email, I will post a picture that I have of Susan Roberta Williams with her daughter, grand daughter, and g-grandson. The picture was published in the Altus, OK newspaper on 8/3/1939. Thanks again and best wishes in your search. Charles Anderson WILLIAMS b. 28 Apr 1821, Sctoland d. 2 Feb 1891, Newton, Newton Co, MS & Mary Ann SMITH b. 10 Dec 1830, Ireland d. 27 Feb 1878, Newton, Newton Co, MS | William Marshall WILLIAMS* | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX | & Celesta Ladora JURDON | b. 30 Apr 1841, Jurdon Mills, So. Carolina | d. 12 Jun 1885, Carlton, TX | m. 6 Nov 1865 | | Charles (Charlie) Clark WILLIAMS | | b. 24 Apr 1868, Clarksville, TX | | Mary Ladora WILLIAMS | | b. 19 Jan 1871, Pearce, TX | | Alma Elizabeth WILLIAMS | | b. 26 Apr 1873 | | Maud Myrtle WILLIAMS | | b. 13 Jan 1879, Carlton, TX | | d. 21 Mar 1956 | | & McMURRAY | | Willie Etta WILLIAMS | | b. 1 Oct 1881, Carlton, TX | | & James Rucker WRIGHT | | b. 18 Jun 1884 | | d. 8 Feb 1936 | William Marshall WILLIAMS* | b. 24 Dec 1847, So. Georgia | d. 1 Jan 1915, Hamlin, TX | & Edna Lenora LASSWELL | d. 1918 | m. 1886 | | Annie Celesta WILLIAMS | | b. 19 Nov 1886 | | & Thomas Andrew JONES | | b. 21 Dec 1881 | | m. 1906 | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* | | b. 30 Aug 1889 | | & Charles THREADGILL | | m. 28 Oct 1908 | | Emma Druscilla WILLIAMS* | | b. 30 Aug 1889 | | & Will S. COZBY | | b. 21 Mar 1880 | | m. 22 May 1913 | | Josie Sallie WILLIAMS | | b. 27 Oct 1891 | | & Samuel George COZBY | | b. 10 Nov 1890 | | m. 22 Aug 1912 | | Jessie Mishey WILLIAMS | | b. 3 May 1893 | | & Ernest ATKINS | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* | | b. 20 Jul 1895 | | & DACON | | Nellie Gracie WILLIAMS* | | b. 20 Jul 1895 | | & WHITTINGTON | Sarah (Sallie) Ann Elizabeth WILLIAMS | b. 10 Aug 1850, Georgia | d. 18 May 1937, Clovis, Curry County, NM | & Walter Johnas (Jonas) RATHEAL | b. 8 Jan 1846, South Carolina | d. 24 Aug 1895, Leroy, McLenann Co., TX | m. Dec 1869, Newton, Newton County, Mississippi | | Mollie E. RATHEAL | | b. 9 Sep 1870, Mississippi | | d. 15 Nov 1963, Clovis, NM | | & Robert E. Lee OVERSTREET | | b. 4 Jan 1871, Missouri | | d. 16 Jun 1958 | | m. 11 Dec 1892 | | Sarah Jenie RATHEAL | | b. 29 Jun 1872, Newton County, Mississippi | | d. 29 Aug 1895, McClellan Co., TX | | Minnie Lee RATHEAL | | b. 19 Jun 1874, Mississippi | | d. 11 Jan 1960 | | & Charles (Charlie) Walter TISDALE | | b. 31 Dec 1871 | | d. 1948, Houston, TX | | m. 22 Nov 1893 | | John (Johnny) RATHEAL | | b. 1876 | | d. 1876 | | Sophie Cornelia (Nealy) RATHEAL | | b. 5 Jul 1877, Mississippi | | d. 24 Jun 1963, Mangum, Greer Co, OK | | & James (Jim) Martin MORGAN | | b. 20 Apr 1871, Alabama | | d. 3 Apr 1949, Mangum, Greer Co, OK | | m. 20 Dec 1894, Olive Brnch, McLellan Co. TX | | Emma Jessie RATHEAL | | b. 4 Jul 1879, Newton, Mississippi | | d. 16 Jan 1961, Clovis, Curry County, NM | | & Richard Riley GRESSETT | | b. 1873, MS | | d. 2 Oct 1939, Phoenix, AZ | | m. 15 Dec 1895, McLennan Co. TX | | Walter Perry RATHEAL | | b. 28 Jul 1881, Newton County, MS | | d. 9 Dec 1978, Crosbyton, Crosby Cnty, TX | | & Emma Daisy BRADBERRY | | b. 26 Apr 1883, Choctaw County, MS | | d. 23 Aug 1972, Crobsyton, Crosby Cnty, TX | | m. 19 Aug 1900, Olive Branch, TX | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK | | & Mary J. HAMLIN | | b. 10 Nov 1887, Missouri | | d. 17 Dec 1926, Crosybyton, Tx | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK | | & Ivy Bell SOLLOCK | | b. 19 Jan 1889, Iola, Grimes Co., TX | | d. 13 Jan 1983, La Mesa, Dawson Co., TX | | Thomas Wesley RATHEAL* | | b. 23 Oct 1883, Newton County, Mississippi | | d. 30 Dec 1960, Oklahoma City, OK | | & Florence HAWKINS | | b. 1887 | | m. 8 Oct 1903, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK | | Luvenia B. (Lula) RATHEAL | | b. 12 Dec 1885, MS | | d. 1 May 1944 | | & John SIMPLER | | b. 22 Jul 1870, Alabama | | d. 6 Dec 1930 | | m. 24 Oct 1904, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK | | Annie Lee RATHEAL | | b. 9 May 1888, Mississippi | | d. 19 Jun 1965, Clovis, NM | | & Wharner Brown CHRISTOPHER | | b. 20 Nov 1883 | | d. 10 Apr 1955, Clovis, NM | | m. Oct 1906 | | Edna Dollie RATHEAL | | b. 9 Apr 1890, Newton, Mississippi | | d. 19 Apr 1983, San Diego, San Diego County, CA | | & Frederick Charles WILLS | | b. 21 May 1887, Mexico | | d. 19 Aug 1947, San Diego, CA | | m. 8 Nov 1906, Hobart, Kiowa County, OK | John A. WILLIAMS | b. 1854, Georgia | & Susan | | Charles (Charlie) M. WILLIAMS | | b. 4 Mar 1878, Newton County, Mississippi | | d. 12 Jul 1879, Newton County, Mississippi | Lee WILLIAMS | Mattie WILLIAMS | & SIMS | Mary WILLIAMS | & HUNTER

Charles and Emma, Here is an outline descendent tree for Anderson Williams and Mary Ann Smith. Please verify the information as this came from a descendent, and I have not verified all of it myself. Descendants of Anderson Williams 1 Anderson Williams 1821 - 1891 .. +Mary Ann Smith 1830 - 1878 ........ 2 Martha Jane Williams 1853 - ............ +Little Page Sims ........ 2 John Anderson Williams 1854 - 1939 ............ +Susan Roberta Herd 1857 - 1946 ................... 3 Cora Marie Williams ................... 3 Karl C. Williams ................... 3 Charley M. Williams 1878 - 1879 ................... 3 George Thomas Williams 1879 - ....................... +Nona Alberta Spears ................... 3 Tempie Ann Williams 1880 - ................... 3 Emma C. Williams 1881 - ................... 3 Anderson Herd Williams 1882 - ................... 3 Mary Alice Williams 1883 - ................... 3 Lucy C. Williams 1885 - ................... 3 Bessie Lee Williams 1887 - ................... 3 John Quitman Williams 1888 - ................... 3 Robert Perry Williams 1889 - ................... 3 William LeRoy Williams 1891 - ................... 3 Marshal Cabot Williams 1892 - ................... 3 Fannie Roberta Williams 1894 - ................... 3 Sammie Harmon Williams 1896 - ................... 3 Susie E. Williams 1899 - ........ 2 Mary E. S. Williams 1864 - 1949 ............ +John Thomas Hunter ................... 3 Ollie W. Hunter 1901 - 1965 ....................... +Mae Walton ................... 3 Lottie Hunter ................... 3 Tommy Hunter ................... 3 Earl Hunter ........ 2 Walter Lee Williams 1868 - 1924 ............ +Appie Mae Curry 1878 - 1939 ................... 3 Walter Murl Williams 1900 - 1981 ....................... +Glenna Williams ................... 3 Gertrude Williams 1903 - ....................... +Unknown Veasey ................... 3 Gladys Williams 1906 - ....................... +Unknown Crafton ................... 3 Charles Lamar Williams 1908 - 1978 ....................... +Gertrude McElhenney 1914 - ................... 3 Andrew Woodrow Williams 1912 - 1967 ....................... +Alma ................... 3 Jethro Williams 1915 - ................... 3 Mary Williams 1918 - ....................... +Unknown Griffin ................... 3 Elsie Williams ....................... +Unknown Cooksey ........ 2 Sally Williams 1853 - ............ +Unknown Rathel ........ 2 Frank Williams *2nd Wife of Anderson Williams: .. +Ione Jane 1843 - 1888 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Lou Price" <emprice@comcast.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:53 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- > Charles, this looks like your family on the 1870 census, Newton County, MS, Township 7, Range 11, > Page 469, Family 2/2. > Williams, Anderson, 49, M, W, Farmer, Real Estate 1288, Personal Property 450, Georgia, cannot rw > Williams, Mary A. 39, F, W, Keeping house, Georgia > Williams, Martha J. 17, F, W, Georgia, cannot rw > Williams, John A. 16, M, W, Georgia, cannot rw > Williams, Mary E. S. 6, F, W, Mississippi > Williams, Walter Lee, 2, M, W, Mississippi. > > William Marshall Williams married in 1865 would have already been gone from home in 1870. > Sarah Ann Elizabeth married in 1869 would have already been gone from home in 1870. > Martha J. would be Mattie. > > Also buried in Decatur Cemetery in the same lot as Anderson and Mary Ann Williams is > W. Lee Williams 3/22/1868 - 6/30/1924. Looks like the Walter Lee, age 2 on the 1870 census. > Also in that same lot is Charlie M. Williams, son of John A. and Susan Williams, 3/4/1878 - 7/12/1879 > > Emma Lou > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles Caballero > To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- > > > Emma Lou, I sure would like to make it fit as the dates are in the > ballpark! Perhaps if I contacted the Decatur Cemetery, they would have > some record of Mary Ann and her relatives. I really need to connect to > her children to be certain. Should you have a listing for Decatur > Cemetery, I would appreciate having it. > > One other consideration. My 2nd cousin once removed who lives near > Dallas told me that Mary Ann Smith was married to Alonso Williams and > that his mother visited the gravesite. Unfortunately, his mother has > passed on and he did not have the pictures his mother took of the > gravesite nor know the name of the cemetery! This differs from the > family historian's record stating Andrew Williams. Please check your > cemetery book to see if you have an Alonso Williams listed. > > Thank you, again, for all of your help. It has been great! > > Charles > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Emma Lou Price wrote: > > > Charles, could this be your Mary Ann > > Smith Williams? > > From "Newton County, Mississippi, A Cemetery Census 1782 - 1995, > > Compiled by Bonnie Addy Smith, Jackson Eliot Smith and Robert Ervin > > Smith, Ph.D., Published 1997", > > Page 127: > > Buried at Decatur Cemetery, Decatur, > > Newton County, MS: > > WILLIAMS, Mary Ann > > 12/10/1830 - 2/27/1878 Age 47 > > Next to her is : > > WILLIAMS, Anderson > > 4/28/1821 - 2/2/1891 Age 69 > > > > There are other Williams in that same plot. > > > > Emma Lou > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Charles Caballero > > To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > > > > > > Catherine: > > > > I have little on the Williams but the following: > > > > Andrew (Bill) Williams, b. 1826 in Scotland, d. in Newton, MS, > > married > > Mary Ann Smith, born in Ireland. Mary Ann was Andrew's first wife. > > His > > second wife is unknown to me. > > > > The children of Andrew and Mary Ann are: > > > > 1. William Marshall, b. 24 Dec 1847 in GA, d. 1 Jan 1815 in Hamlin, > > TX, married Celesta Jurdon on 6 Nov 1865, b. 30 April 1841, d. 12 Jun > > 1885, married Emma Lenora Lasswell in 1886, d. 1918. Had 4 > > children > > with 1st wife and 5 children with 2nd wife. > > > > 2. Mary , b. ?, d. ?, married Hunter > > > > 3. Sarah Ann Elizabeth (Sally), b. 10 Aug 1850 in Georgia, d. 18 May > > 1937 in Clovis, Curry Co, NM, married W, Johnas Ratheal on Dec 1869 > > and > > had elven children > > > > 4. John, BDM unknown > > > > 5. Lee, BDM unknnown > > > > 6. Mattie married Sims > > > > I have the descendants of William Marshall and Sarah Ann Elizabeth. > > If > > you would like them, let me know and I will email the info to you. > > > > Living relatives living in the Dallas area have told me that their > > mother visited the grave of Mary Ann Williams in Newton. They did not > > know which cemetery, however > > > > And be sure to let me know if you connect to my Williams'! > > > > Charles > > > > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:11 AM, Catherine Cooper wrote: > > > >> Charles, > >> > >> Who are the parents of your Sarah Williams? > >> > >> I descend from Williams in Newton (there were many), and I've been > >> trying to > >> put together the ancestry of these folks as I research my Williams. > >> > >> Catherine > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> > >> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:44 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > >> > >> > >>> Thank you so much for the information you found on the > >>> Ratheal/Overstreet and Ratheal/Tisdale marriages. Mollie E. and > >>> Minnie > >>> Lee Ratheal are my g-aunts. They are the elder children of Sara Ann > >>> Elizabeth Williams and W. Johnas Ratheal. > >>> > >>> Do you know if it is possible to obtain a copy of the pages of the > >>> marriage book showing the marriages? And are these recordings of the > >>> date of issuance of a marriage license or the actual recording of the > >>> date of marriage? > >>> > >>> Am thrilled to receive your information. Again, thank you very much. > >>> > >>> Charles > >>>> > >>> > >> > > >

Amma and Charles, The Mary Ann that Emma wrote about was Mary Ann Smith. She was born in GA. Her spouse, Anderson Williams, was born in Wilkinson Co., GA. I do not have parents for either of them. The couple had six children that I know of, including a daughter Sally who married an unknown Rathel. This information came from a direct descendent. Hope this helps. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emma Lou Price" <emprice@comcast.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- > Charles, could this be your Mary Ann > Smith Williams? > From "Newton County, Mississippi, A Cemetery Census 1782 - 1995, Compiled by Bonnie Addy Smith, Jackson Eliot Smith and Robert Ervin Smith, Ph.D., Published 1997", > Page 127: > Buried at Decatur Cemetery, Decatur, > Newton County, MS: > WILLIAMS, Mary Ann > 12/10/1830 - 2/27/1878 Age 47 > Next to her is : > WILLIAMS, Anderson > 4/28/1821 - 2/2/1891 Age 69 > > There are other Williams in that same plot. > > Emma Lou > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Charles Caballero > To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > > > Catherine: > > I have little on the Williams but the following: > > Andrew (Bill) Williams, b. 1826 in Scotland, d. in Newton, MS, married > Mary Ann Smith, born in Ireland. Mary Ann was Andrew's first wife. His > second wife is unknown to me. > > The children of Andrew and Mary Ann are: > > 1. William Marshall, b. 24 Dec 1847 in GA, d. 1 Jan 1815 in Hamlin, > TX, married Celesta Jurdon on 6 Nov 1865, b. 30 April 1841, d. 12 Jun > 1885, married Emma Lenora Lasswell in 1886, d. 1918. Had 4 children > with 1st wife and 5 children with 2nd wife. > > 2. Mary , b. ?, d. ?, married Hunter > > 3. Sarah Ann Elizabeth (Sally), b. 10 Aug 1850 in Georgia, d. 18 May > 1937 in Clovis, Curry Co, NM, married W, Johnas Ratheal on Dec 1869 and > had elven children > > 4. John, BDM unknown > > 5. Lee, BDM unknnown > > 6. Mattie married Sims > > I have the descendants of William Marshall and Sarah Ann Elizabeth. If > you would like them, let me know and I will email the info to you. > > Living relatives living in the Dallas area have told me that their > mother visited the grave of Mary Ann Williams in Newton. They did not > know which cemetery, however > > And be sure to let me know if you connect to my Williams'! > > Charles > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:11 AM, Catherine Cooper wrote: > > > Charles, > > > > Who are the parents of your Sarah Williams? > > > > I descend from Williams in Newton (there were many), and I've been > > trying to > > put together the ancestry of these folks as I research my Williams. > > > > Catherine > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> > > To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > > > > > >> Thank you so much for the information you found on the > >> Ratheal/Overstreet and Ratheal/Tisdale marriages. Mollie E. and Minnie > >> Lee Ratheal are my g-aunts. They are the elder children of Sara Ann > >> Elizabeth Williams and W. Johnas Ratheal. > >> > >> Do you know if it is possible to obtain a copy of the pages of the > >> marriage book showing the marriages? And are these recordings of the > >> date of issuance of a marriage license or the actual recording of the > >> date of marriage? > >> > >> Am thrilled to receive your information. Again, thank you very much. > >> > >> Charles > >>> > >> > > >

Hi Charles, Thank you for the info on your Williams, but I don't think they connect to mine. My Williams (Stephen C. Williams) was born in SC ca. 1808. He married in Tuscaloosa Co., AL and was in Newton Co. by the late 1830s. I continue to search for his ancestors, so I will certainly let you know if I find anything on your folks. My father took the Williams DNA test this year, but he had no matches with any Williams tested thus far! Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > Catherine: > > I have little on the Williams but the following: > > Andrew (Bill) Williams, b. 1826 in Scotland, d. in Newton, MS, married > Mary Ann Smith, born in Ireland. Mary Ann was Andrew's first wife. His > second wife is unknown to me. > > The children of Andrew and Mary Ann are: > > 1. William Marshall, b. 24 Dec 1847 in GA, d. 1 Jan 1815 in Hamlin, > TX, married Celesta Jurdon on 6 Nov 1865, b. 30 April 1841, d. 12 Jun > 1885, married Emma Lenora Lasswell in 1886, d. 1918. Had 4 children > with 1st wife and 5 children with 2nd wife. > > 2. Mary , b. ?, d. ?, married Hunter > > 3. Sarah Ann Elizabeth (Sally), b. 10 Aug 1850 in Georgia, d. 18 May > 1937 in Clovis, Curry Co, NM, married W, Johnas Ratheal on Dec 1869 and > had elven children > > 4. John, BDM unknown > > 5. Lee, BDM unknnown > > 6. Mattie married Sims > > I have the descendants of William Marshall and Sarah Ann Elizabeth. If > you would like them, let me know and I will email the info to you. > > Living relatives living in the Dallas area have told me that their > mother visited the grave of Mary Ann Williams in Newton. They did not > know which cemetery, however > > And be sure to let me know if you connect to my Williams'! > > Charles > > > On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:11 AM, Catherine Cooper wrote: > > > Charles, > > > > Who are the parents of your Sarah Williams? > > > > I descend from Williams in Newton (there were many), and I've been > > trying to > > put together the ancestry of these folks as I research my Williams. > > > > Catherine > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles Caballero" <keeptruckin@cox.net> > > To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 3:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Emma Lou > > > > > >> Thank you so much for the information you found on the > >> Ratheal/Overstreet and Ratheal/Tisdale marriages. Mollie E. and Minnie > >> Lee Ratheal are my g-aunts. They are the elder children of Sara Ann > >> Elizabeth Williams and W. Johnas Ratheal. > >> > >> Do you know if it is possible to obtain a copy of the pages of the > >> marriage book showing the marriages? And are these recordings of the > >> date of issuance of a marriage license or the actual recording of the > >> date of marriage? > >> > >> Am thrilled to receive your information. Again, thank you very much. > >> > >> Charles > >>> > >> > > >

Catherine, this is g-r-e-a-t information! I am sure Charles will be delighted to see it as it will fill in some empty spaces for him. You are so generous to share your data. Thanks so much, Emma Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: Catherine Cooper To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Marriage- Charles and Emma, Here is an outline descendent tree for Anderson Williams and Mary Ann Smith. Please verify the information as this came from a descendent, and I have not verified all of it myself. Descendants of Anderson Williams