Thank you. I'll try that. There were some Rishers in Scott Co., too. Wouldn't it be great if these people's names were spelled the same way everytime. Surely would make life easier. Frann ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Risher/Leigh/Lay > Frann, I found the family of one Curmit Hudson, age 7, living in Scott Co MS > on the 1820 census. The same family was in Madison Co LA on the 1930 census, > where he is age 17, spelled Kermit. > Perhaps this will give you a new location to look for family, is this is the > correct Kermit. > Fran Bolton > > >

Frann, I found the family of one Curmit Hudson, age 7, living in Scott Co MS on the 1820 census. The same family was in Madison Co LA on the 1930 census, where he is age 17, spelled Kermit. Perhaps this will give you a new location to look for family, is this is the correct Kermit. Fran Bolton

Frann, My main concern with Newton Co is James J Monroe 1812 NC-1867 MS, one of the early settlers. Co-lateral lines there are Kelly, Gilmore, Mann, Ware. James J had ? connection to Archibald Monroe. After the Civil War, James J died, 3 of his sons moved to Yalobusha Co, and the other 10 moved to TX, where I live. I found, by way of the message boards, very helpful lady there in Decatur, a member of the NCHGS, Jo Blackburn, who went out of her way to look for info there. I only wish every long distance researcher could find one like her. She sent me a copy of the 150 yr anniversary issue of the Newton Record Newspaper, 1836-1986, and if you like, I could look for your names to be mentioned there. Did they hold any official position, such as postmaster, that would give me a clue as to what section to look? Fran

What are your family names? I have seen your name somewhere along the line but can't remember any names you have mentioned. Frann Risher Smith Clark SW Louisiana

Frann Love your "witness protection plan." This searching for theses folks is fun & frustrating. Slowly getting names in my great aunt's family. Would like to find some living in this line to compare notes. Nancy Bell Leigh & Kermit C. Hudson--2 children are Wayne & Carol. Let me know if you hear anything about family of these two. Frann

Frann, I found a family tree on Rootsweb Worldconnect, that lists a Kermit Hudson, b ?, son of William Thomas Hudson, b 1892 Marion Co MS, d 1971 Newton Co MS. I read your posts and understand how frustrating it can be to find our people. (Ever considered she might be under the Witness Protection Program, as I suspect my James J Monroe of Newton Co was?) We sometimes have to go way out on a limb to connect, so perhaps this suggestion will be a new twig. Fran Bolton

Beth & Janis sent info. Harold Graham--sent but I don't have an e-mail address. With your info, some census info, etc--I have piece the following together. I would like to contact some of the descendants of Alice Risher Leigh & learn something about Alice's twin and more about Alice & her family. Facts: Some members spell Lay & some Leigh Alice Risher, sister of my grandfather Lum, b January 26,1887 & d September 1, 1956. Buried Liberty BC Cem, Newton Co., MS. m. Wiley Macalister Leigh Mack b April 17, 1875 & d March 18, 1950 Alice & Mack had one daughter--Nancy Bell Leigh b June 18, 1912 & d July 21, 1995 Nancy m. Kermit C. Hudson Kermit born January 19, 1917 & d Jan 14, 1990 Two children: Wayne & Carol Question: Does anyone know someone to contact in this family? Frann Risher Smith Clark

why do you want me to unscribe i dont understand please explain MSNEWTON-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 MSNEWTON-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 6 Today's Topics: #1 Risher/Leigh ["Frann S. Clark" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from MSNEWTON-D, send a message to MSNEWTON-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:29:59 -0600 From: "Frann S. Clark" To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Risher/Leigh Looking for anyone who is related or knows descendants or relatives of Alice Risher & Wiley M. Leigh. Alice was a sister of my grandfather Columbus Wesley "Lum" Risher. Frann Risher Smith Clark From Windy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Looking for anyone who is related or knows descendants or relatives of Alice Risher & Wiley M. Leigh. Alice was a sister of my grandfather Columbus Wesley "Lum" Risher. Frann Risher Smith Clark

MSNEWTON-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 MSNEWTON-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 4 Today's Topics: #1 Unidentified subject! [Vanessa Nolden Administrivia: To unsubscribe from MSNEWTON-D, send a message to MSNEWTON-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:02:47 -0800 (PST) From: Vanessa Nolden To: MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Unidentified subject! hello i'm looking for my family which lived in newton ms. my grandfather was Armster Williams he was born in newton ms. born about. 1890.his brothers was Harrison williams .Lemon williams. and Genie Williams..his sisters was Blanche Williams Whitfield. and Mary Williams Miller all born in newton ms. acording to censes.Genie moved to st. louis mo. around 1942 and he died in 1994 st.louis mo...Armster died in 1952..in sunflower ms.Blanche died in 1995 in newton Mary moved around clarksdale ms.harrison and Lemon died one was 1968 and one was 1975.in newton ms.uncle genie's daughter's was born in newton .they name's was Rosie Lee . and Corine both williams . and uncle lemon had a son name Jd williams. please if anyone have any info please contac memy mom is the only one of armster's childrens. left. my mom told me this info and she is 78yrs old and has had three heartattacks and has been on life support three times . and thanks to god she is still here. hoping everyday that i can find some of her family. she was a young girl the last time she seen them. help..help god bless you. ps. my mom is Sarah Williams Nolden Mims. we live in Decatur Al. From Windy - ------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' From Windy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.

hello i'm looking for my family which lived in newton ms. my grandfather was Armster Williams he was born in newton ms. born about. 1890.his brothers was Harrison williams .Lemon williams. and Genie Williams..his sisters was Blanche Williams Whitfield. and Mary Williams Miller all born in newton ms. acording to censes.Genie moved to st. louis mo. around 1942 and he died in 1994 st.louis mo...Armster died in 1952..in sunflower ms.Blanche died in 1995 in newton Mary moved around clarksdale ms.harrison and Lemon died one was 1968 and one was 1975.in newton ms.uncle genie's daughter's was born in newton .they name's was Rosie Lee . and Corine both williams . and uncle lemon had a son name Jd williams. please if anyone have any info please contac memy mom is the only one of armster's childrens. left. my mom told me this info and she is 78yrs old and has had three heartattacks and has been on life support three times . and thanks to god she is still here. hoping everyday that i can find some of her family. she was a young girl the last time she seen them. help..help god bless you. ps. my mom is Sarah Williams Nolden Mims. we live in Decatur Al. From Windy --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

My grandfather, Columbus Wesley "Lum" Risher, had two sisters who married & lived in Newton Co., MS. Mary Elizabeth Risher 1882-1955 m. Robert Holman Williams 1875-1939. Alice Risher 1887-1956 m. Wiley M. Leigh 1875-1950. I would like to communicate with people who knew them or who know their descendants. Alice was a twin but I have not been able to determine the name or any info about her twin. Maybe Annie, Arvil, Ardel Frann Risher Smith Clark

Northan Butler--The Zion Hill Bapt. Church records show her as North Ann. My great grandfather, William M. Newman, gave me some names and he has North Ann. Jobey Butler & Jobey Caston. I think these are Jabez. I see this name on church records & in cemeteries. I found a Jabez Caston but there is 10 yrs. difference in their age. Frann ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt To: frannc@beci.net Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] James/Reynolds Frann: I have found what I believe to be the parents of your Thomas and Frances. I could not find either J. M or Northan on the 1870 census. I could not locate Northan in 1850 at all, but there was a James Reynolds in Amite in 1850. He was age 28. He was living alone but born in MS. The age is a little different, but could be the same one. 1860 census, Meadville, Franklin, MS, page 271 the following: J. M. Reynolds 42 M farmer $1500/2500 MS Northan " 30 F MS Thomas " 04 M Ms (Same Thomas you found on the 1870 census, I think) Frances " 02 F Ms ( Same Frances as well) Ashley " 8/12 M MS Northan may be related to Northan Butler in Amite Co in 1850. Ashley was living with T. H. Whittington in 1880 and there was a T. J. Reynolds, wife Viola, living next door. The Nancy A. you listed on the 1870 census may be the Ashley???? The age is right, but the sex and name were different. I could not find a Nancy in 1860 or 1880. Nicey James was living in Amite in 1860, page 90, living alone. She married P. R. James on Jul 14 1831 in Amite, MS On the record I have, she was listed as Nicey Harney but I think that it was Harvey, not Harney. Hope this helps, Mattie "Frann S. Clark" <frannc@beci.net> wrote: While working on my Reynolds line in Amite Co., MS, I found a Reynolds web site with families in Clarke Co., MS. The web site contained information about my 3G gparents Mary Meredith & Thomas Reynolds in Amite Co., MS The ff is from the 1870 census Amite Co., MS, page 21, hh 131 Jobey (76), Nancy (70), & Victoria Butler (25) Jobey Caston, 24 Thomas Reynolds, 15 Francis A. Reynolds, 13 (f) Nancy A. Reynolds, 10 Nicey James, 68 Who are the Reynolds children? Who is Nicey James? Is she connected to the James & Reynolds of Clarke Co., MS Amite Co., MS Cemetery Book--Zion Hill Cemetery T(homas) K Harvey 1819-1852--lists info from his will naming Nicey James as his mother (2nd w/o P R)--parenthesis exactly as given in book Frann

I'll try to put together all the information that I have on this topic in discussion. Some of it is mine, some from Newton Co., MS & some from Amite Co., MS and Bonnie in this e-mail below. Thanks to those who replied. This is a Reynolds web site. Lists Clarke Co., MS but has my ancestors Mary Meredith & Thomas Reynolds who were in Amite Co., MS. I have tried to contact the three people listed on this site but no luck. Does anyone know anything about this site? http://members.tripod.com/~rriggs/reynolds.html This is from Bonnie: Fran, Check Newton County, MS also "on Wednesday 3 Sep 1845 at a meeting of the Masons of Newton Co. Thomas Reynolds was called to the chair and J. C. McAlpine appointed Secretary." These are the Niceys in my file. I have RHODES but do not know how she connects? Nicey Ann Rhodes wife of James Wilson DeWitt b.1813 SC Ancestor of "Tim DeWitt" <tdewi@earthlink.net> Parents of Nicey Rebecca DeWitt b.1838 AL wife of Samuel Moses Tucker b.1815 SC Parents of Nicey A. / Melissa DeWitt b.1868 Jasper County, MS The ff is from the 1870 census Amite Co., MS, page 21, hh 131 Jobey (76), Nancy (70), & Victoria Butler (25) Jobey Caston, 24 Thomas Reynolds, 15 Francis A. Reynolds, 13 (f) Nancy A. Reynolds, 10 Nicey James, 68 1860 census, Meadville, Fanklin, MS, page 271: J. M Reynolds, 42, farmer Northan, 30, f, MS Thomas, 04 MS Frances, 02 MS Ashley 8/12, m, MS In my family info I have a listing of the siblings of my gg gf (Seaborn Scott Reynolds), I have James Martin Reynolds born 13 Nov 1818 & d 19 Aug 1862. James m. N A Butler 23 Dec 1853. E-mails name N A as Northan. Apparently Jobey & Nancy Butler on the 1870 census are the grandparents of the Reynolds children. 1880 Ashley Reynolds was living with T. H. Whittington. Next door was T. J. Reynolds & wife Viola. Thomas H. Whittington m. Elizabeth Reynolds who was a sister of Seaborn and James Martin Reynolds. Amite Co., MS Cemetery book is Ashley A. Reynolds who married Sarah Jones in 1883. Ashley 1859-1950. Amite Co., MS Cem book Thomas J Reynolds June 12, 1854-Oct 3, 1933, m. May 30, 1878. Viola W(ilkinson) w/o Thomas b 1857 & d April 23, 1936. Nicey James was living in Amite Co., MS in 1860, page 90, living alone. She married P. R. James on 14 Jul 1831, Amite Co., MS. She was listed as Nicey Harvey. This explains the note in the cemetery book about T(homas) K Harvey naming Nicey James as his mother in his will. Frann

While working on my Reynolds line in Amite Co., MS, I found a Reynolds web site with families in Clarke Co., MS. The web site contained information about my 3G gparents Mary Meredith & Thomas Reynolds in Amite Co., MS The ff is from the 1870 census Amite Co., MS, page 21, hh 131 Jobey (76), Nancy (70), & Victoria Butler (25) Jobey Caston, 24 Thomas Reynolds, 15 Francis A. Reynolds, 13 (f) Nancy A. Reynolds, 10 Nicey James, 68 Who are the Reynolds children? Who is Nicey James? Is she connected to the James & Reynolds of Clarke Co., MS Amite Co., MS Cemetery Book--Zion Hill Cemetery T(homas) K Harvey 1819-1852--lists info from his will naming Nicey James as his mother (2nd w/o P R)--parenthesis exactly as given in book Frann

Clarke Co., MS Benjamin Hezekiah Risher m. Rebecca (James, most think) ca 1843 Trying to connect the following four James children & maybe Rebecca, wife of BH Risher 1. Frances b 1842 in 1850 hh of Benjamin Hezekiah Risher, bro. of Sarah Risher Fontaine 2. Amelia b 1844 in 1850 hh of Mary Susannah Fontaine Carter, dau. of Sarah Risher Fontaine (Amelia/Almeda married William McGaw, maybe Benjamin Upchurch, & maybe David Johnson) 3. Thaddeus b 1845, in 1860 hh of George Fontaine, son of Sarah Risher Fontaine--this one in Scott Co., MS (Thad m. Isabella Buck & Martha Moore 4. Lucinda b 1847, in 1860 hh of Sarah Risher Fontaine (Lucinda m. Reuben Grayson) Frann

Thanks a million. Appreciate your response. Never know who is related because they frequently change the spelling. Frann

Fran, I descend from McGraws in MS but am not familiar with this line. I posted your message to our private family site asking for assistance. Will let you know if anyone responds. Catherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frann S. Clark" <frannc@beci.net> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 7:47 AM Subject: [MSNEWTON] Fw: McGaw > Any names familiar to anyone? > Frann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brenda Smith > To: Frann S. Clark > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: McGaw > > > Nancy McGaw was William's sister, born 3 Feb 1851. Father was J. P. McGaw > (John Pressley). I don't know who the A. McGaw is. I have seven > children for John and Elizabeth McGaw: William Uriah McGaw, married > Almedia James; Mary Elizabeth McGaw married William Churchwell Upchurch; > Richard A. McGaw married Nancy Ann Bynum; Hannah McGaw married Benjamin > Newton Upchurch; Samuel I. McGaw, (can't find marriage on him); Ruth > Christian McGaw, born 14 Jan 1848; died 28 Nov 1886, married Edwin Glover > Wescott (born 6 Jan 1836) and Nancy McGaw, born 3 Feb 1851, married > Charles Richard Rosenberry. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frann S. Clark > To: Brenda Smith > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:39 PM > Subject: McGaw > > > Nancy McGaw m. Charles R. Rosenberry 12 Aug 1869. Her father was J. T. > McGaw > > David Johnston m. A. McGaw 20 Mar 1869--don't have any more on her. > >

Any names familiar to anyone? Frann ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Smith To: Frann S. Clark Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: Re: McGaw Nancy McGaw was William's sister, born 3 Feb 1851. Father was J. P. McGaw (John Pressley). I don't know who the A. McGaw is. I have seven children for John and Elizabeth McGaw: William Uriah McGaw, married Almedia James; Mary Elizabeth McGaw married William Churchwell Upchurch; Richard A. McGaw married Nancy Ann Bynum; Hannah McGaw married Benjamin Newton Upchurch; Samuel I. McGaw, (can't find marriage on him); Ruth Christian McGaw, born 14 Jan 1848; died 28 Nov 1886, married Edwin Glover Wescott (born 6 Jan 1836) and Nancy McGaw, born 3 Feb 1851, married Charles Richard Rosenberry. ----- Original Message ----- From: Frann S. Clark To: Brenda Smith Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:39 PM Subject: McGaw Nancy McGaw m. Charles R. Rosenberry 12 Aug 1869. Her father was J. T. McGaw David Johnston m. A. McGaw 20 Mar 1869--don't have any more on her.

The search continues for info on the scattered James crew: Brenda James (descendant of Thad James) found some good info Almedia James born 1 July 1841, Stonewallstation, Clarke Co., MS & d 8 April 1860. Father is Unknown James born 1815, Stonewallstation, Clarke Co., MS. Mother unknown. Almedia m. William U. McGaw on 30 Dec 1859, Quitman, Calrke Co., MS. One child, Sarah Elizabeth McGaw, born 3 April 1861, Clarke Co., MS.. Child died before 1886. William U born ca 1837, Dixons Mills, Marengo Co., AL & d 20 June 1863. Parents of WU Mc are John Pressley McGaw b 1814, Abbeville, SC, died Feb 1875, Clarke Co., MS. Mother is Elizabeth Bass, married 3 March 1836, Lindon, Marengo Co, AL. John Pressley McGaw's parents are William McGaw b Abbeville, SC & Hannah b Abbeville, SC Almedia m. 2nd Benjamin Upchurch. 1880 census Clarke Co., MS has Benjamin Upchurch, wife Almita with children Lucinda Upchurch, Eddie Upchurch, Lizzie McGaw (dau by 1st marriage), sister Lottie Upchurch, niece Alla Upchurch, Martha Johnson as step daughter (I think this should be niece) and Alonzo Obey as step son (don't know about this). Next hh in 1880 is William Upchurch wife Mary, 4 sons, & mother-in-law Betsie McGaw (Elizabeth Bass above) Almedia was 1st married to William McGaw. Hannah McGaw was married to Benjamin Newton Upchurch. Apparently William & Hannah died & Almedia married Benjamin. A. McGaw m. David Johnston 20 Mar 1869. Nancy McGaw m. Charles R. Rosenberry 12 Aug 1869, her fahter was J. T. McGaw The five we want to connect are: 1. Rebecca--we think James--married Benjamin Hezekiah Risher--Clarke Co., MS 2. Frances James b 1842, 1850 in hh of Benjamin Risher, bro. of Sarah Risher Fontaine--Clarke Co., MS 3. Amelia James b 1 July 1841, 1850 in hh of Mary Fontaine Carter, dau of SRF & wife of TK Carter. Ameliaia/Almeda/Almedia m. William McGaw in 1859 & TK Carter signed marriage license--Clarke Co., MS 4. Thaddeus b 1845, in 1860 hh of George Risher, son of SRF--Scott Co., MS 5. Lucinda b 1847, in 1860 hh of Sarah Risher Fontaine Frann