------=_Part_151_19732166.1128386117443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove my name. We have evacuated to an area near Dallas, TX & will probably be here 4-6 weeks. Frann Clark ------=_Part_151_19732166.1128386117443 Content-Type: text/plain; reply-type=original; name="Original message"; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Original message" I have Eubanks in my data base and they were from Mississippi. The earliest I have is Benjamin Franklin Eubank, born September 5, 1832, in MS. He married Mary Caroline Scoggin, March 31, 1857, Clark Co., MS. This Mary Caroline was a sister of my husband/s great grandmother, Eliza Winnifred Scoggin Greenlee. I show that this Eubank family had eleven children. Most of my info reads they were born in MS. However, I do have Hortense Mae Eubank, born May 6, 1877, Newton Co., MS. I at one time was corresponding with her grandaughter, Geri Goza Diehl. Geri has since died. Geri's father was Leonard Elmo Goza, born 1910, Goldwaite, TX. I can go no further back than Benjamin Franklin Eubank. Dortha McElroy Greenlee ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ------=_Part_151_19732166.1128386117443--
I have Eubanks in my data base and they were from Mississippi. The earliest I have is Benjamin Franklin Eubank, born September 5, 1832, in MS. He married Mary Caroline Scoggin, March 31, 1857, Clark Co., MS. This Mary Caroline was a sister of my husband/s great grandmother, Eliza Winnifred Scoggin Greenlee. I show that this Eubank family had eleven children. Most of my info reads they were born in MS. However, I do have Hortense Mae Eubank, born May 6, 1877, Newton Co., MS. I at one time was corresponding with her grandaughter, Geri Goza Diehl. Geri has since died. Geri's father was Leonard Elmo Goza, born 1910, Goldwaite, TX. I can go no further back than Benjamin Franklin Eubank. Dortha McElroy Greenlee
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JKB.2ACI/1822.3.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I have the same descendants as you,I would love what information that you have on Isaac Eubanks.
Paul, since this is only an abstract of surnames, I would assume you must go to the courthouse and read the books in person. Another possibility, if you live too far away to go in person, is to ask for assistance in the form of a pair of eyes that live close by to read for you. I have found some great people there, in person and online, who have helped me from here in TX. I have seen people on this list who will do look-ups in their cemetery books also. At _http://www.nchgs.org/probate/finalrecordprobate1.htm#t_ (http://www.nchgs.org/probate/finalrecordprobate1.htm#t) you don't have to open the "T" section, just scroll down. You will notice a WmThames also. And, at _http://www.nchgs.org/probate/probatebook4.htm_ (http://www.nchgs.org/probate/probatebook4.htm) you will find a Willie Thames in another book. I found these by using the "Search this site" feature at NCHGS.org. You said: "An interesting civil war story from our family is that the northern general was using one of the Thames houses as a headquarters of sorts and he used to have a relative child sit on his lap and play with her, then when he moved on he burned the Thames house" From the book, "The History of Newton Co, 1834-1894" there are several of Newton County's families mentioned in the section about the Civil War Raids of Gen Sherman. Among them are RC Payne, north of Union, Mr Reynolds east of Decatur, passed the Beulah church, and camped near SB Gilbert. Also LP Murrell in Scott county, and Wm Reynolds at Decatur. The book further states: "When the federal army approached a farm-house at which it proposed to stay all night, the work of destruction commenced at a terrible rate. The commanding general would take the dwelling-house for his headquarters, and he would usually place guards at the door and the family would feel protected. As a general thing no insult would be offered and whatever was on the inside of the house was safe. But it was impossible to restrain the soldiers, and a farmer had but little left after the army had gone. Any valuable houses---like churches, courthouses, hotels, etc, were burned. With over 1500 of the best men of the county in the field defending the confederacy at other points than at home, with the invading armies of the enemy, Newton Co felt the iron heel of war. Not a household, nor an individual but felt the terrible plagues and destructions and horrors of war." It makes our ancestors much more than just a birth, marriage and death date when we can learn of their daily lives, and the troubled times they lived through. I will be happy to pass along any tidbits I may find on your Temples and Thames. Fran Bolton
In a message dated 10/2/2005 6:25:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Jfrbol@aol.com writes: Dortha, you just have to go two counties over to be in AL. Looking at old maps will show you the main roads during that time, so you may can determine which way they traveled, keeping in mind they may have needed to avoid the roads the northern army would be using. From "War of the Rebellion, Official Records of the Union & Confederate Armies" : "Itinerary of the First Brigade, third division, Sixteenth Army Corps, Col David Moore, Twenty-first Missouri Infantry, Feb 2-27, 1864: Feb 2, command left camp in rear of Vicksburg en route for Meridian MS. Nothing worthy of note occurred during march to Merdian, at which place the command was assigned to the duty of destroying the Selma RR, which was most effectually done a distance of 6 miles. After remaining at Meridian in camp for 2 days the command moved en route for Canton Ms, via Union and Hillsboro. Report of Brig. Gen. James C Veatch, US Army, commanding Fourth Division, of expedition to Meridian: Feb 12, marched in rear of the third Division at 8 am, passed through Decatur at 12 am found the town on fire, placed the cavalry escort on guard in the town and marched the division through 1 mi beyond the city. the corps train was fired upon by rebel cavalry, were instantly repulsed, doing no damage. They however, swept around and attacked the portion of the train under the charge of the Third Division, reached the camp at 8 pm, 6 miles beyond Decatur, on Little Chunky river. Report of Col Milton Montgomery, Twenty Fifth Wisconsin Infantry, of expedition to Meridian: On the morning of the 7th of Feb, the Thirty third Missouri Volunteers was ordered as an escort for the pontoon train. The brigade accompanied the expedition to Meridian and Marion, and thence via Union, Hillsborough, Canton, returned to Vicksburg. They were at no time engaged with the enemy, but on the 12 of Feb the rear of the brigade, when dear Decatur, was fired into, no harm being done. A short time after, one regiment was sent back about 1 mile, and formed a line and threw out a company of skirmishers to protect the train, which had been attacked while crossing Turkey Creek, on the outskirts of Decatur." These accounts mention various creeks, and names of people whose homes they stayed in, that I didn't include, so if you know the exact location of your ancestor's land, you can read how close they were to these troop movements. The History of Newton County, 1834-1894, by AJ Brown, Republished by Melvin Tingle of Decatur, in 1964, gives a good accounting of Col Grierson's raid through Newton Co in April 1863. "Newton County had Grierson's raid to pass centrally through the county from north to south, and Gen Shermans' great army marched from west to east and from east to west. cleat through the northern part of the county, and then followed by Ross' Texas brigade--all of who had, in great measure, to be subsisted from the private stocks of provisions and provender for horses from the citizens, besides taking the very best of the stock that was not hid away beyond their reach" (my Monroe family oral history says their Negro mammy hid the 13 children and the geese, along with her own 26 yr old son, in the woods during these times, then she left with the troops to be free. This son came to TX with the Monroes after the war) Learning this gives the movie "Gone With the Wind" new meaning to me! Fran
Dortha, you just have to go two counties over to be in AL. Looking at old maps will show you the main roads during that time, so you may can determine which way they traveled, keeping in mind they may have needed to avoid the roads the northern army would be using. From "War of the Rebellion, Official Records of the Union & Confederate Armies" : "Itinerary of the First Brigade, third division, Sixteenth Army Corps, Col David Moore, Twenty-first Missouri Infantry, Feb 2-27, 1864: Feb 2, command left camp in rear of Vicksburg en route for Meridian MS. Nothing worthy of note occurred during march to Merdian, at which place the command was assigned to the duty of destroying the Selma RR, which was most effectually done a distance of 6 miles. After remaining at Meridian in camp for 2 days the command moved en route for Canton Ms, via Union and Hillsboro. Report of Brig. Gen. James C Veatch, US Army, commanding Fourth Division, of expedition to Meridian: Feb 12, marched in rear of the third Division at 8 am, passed through Decatur at 12 am found the town on fire, placed the cavalry escort on guard in the town and marched the division through 1 mi beyond the city. the corps train was fired upon by rebel cavalry, were instantly repulsed, doing no damage. They however, swept around and attacked the portion of the train under the charge of the Third Division, reached the camp at 8 pm, 6 miles beyond Decatur, on Little Chunky river. Report of Col Milton Montgomery, Twenty Fifth Wisconsin Infantry, of expedition to Meridian: On the morning of the 7th of Feb, the Thirty third Missouri Volunteers was ordered as an escort for the pontoon train. The brigade accompanied the expedition to Meridian and Marion, and thence via Union, Hillsborough, Canton, returned to Vicksburg. They were at no time engaged with the enemy, but on the 12 of Feb the rear of the brigade, when dear Decatur, was fired into, no harm being done. A short time after, one regiment was sent back about 1 mile, and formed a line and threw out a company of skirmishers to protect the train, which had been attacked while crossing Turkey Creek, on the outskirts of Decatur." These accounts mention various creeks, and names of people whose homes they stayed in, that I didn't include, so if you know the exact location of your ancestor's land, you can read how close they were to these troop movements. The History of Newton County, 1834-1894, by AJ Brown, Republished by Melvin Tingle of Decatur, in 1964, gives a good accounting of Col Grierson's raid through Newton Co in April 1863. "Newton County had Grierson's raid to pass centrally through the county from north to south, and Gen Shermans' great army marched from west to east and from east to west. cleat through the northern part of the county, and then followed by Ross' Texas brigade--all of who had, in great measure, to be subsisted from the private stocks of provisions and provender for horses from the citizens, besides taking the very best of the stock that was not hid away beyond their reach" (my Monroe family oral history says their Negro mammy hid the 13 children and the geese, along with her own 26 yr old son, in the woods during these times, then she left with the troops to be free. This son came to TX with the Monroes after the war) Learning this gives the movie "Gone With the Wind" new meaning to me! Fran
Thanks, Paul. I read the surname to be Felter. Checking again under Temples, I did find what appears to be A F Temples, wife Elizabeth, son James, dau Georgian. The problem lies in the poor quality of the 1860 census for Newton Co, and the hardships the indexer had in determining how to read the names. This A F Temples, I found by doing a search for all males in Newton Co, one age group at a time. He is indexed, on Heritage Quest census, as H F Temple. This shows we should never discount ANY possible match, no matter how remote it appears, until we have seen the actual census page and made our own judgement. However, there is no son-in-law in his household. Checking the NCHGS.org site, I found this; _http://www.nchgs.org/probate/finalrecordprobate1.htm_ (http://www.nchgs.org/probate/finalrecordprobate1.htm) Interesting that your Temples were in Sumpter Co AL, then Newton Co MS, then Van Zandt Co TX. That is the same migration route and settlement stops my Monroe family made, during the same years. As Newton Co was hard hit during the Civil War, my Monroes went on to Yalobusha Co afterwards, working with the RR, then spent "one crop year" in AR on their way to TX. Perhaps your Temples left for the same reason. Fran Bolton
You mention Newton Co. being hard hit during the Civil War. I have record that a brother of my husband's grandfather, who was named James William Greenlee, was born October 3, 1863, in AL. I asked my mother-in-law about this, thinking the location was a mistake. She answered me that they made their way to AL for his birth because of the war!! I don't have a county, just the state. They came back to Newton Co. and their last two children were born there. This uncle "Jim" and the grandfather of my husband, David Clarence, and their mother Eliza Winnifred Scoggin Greenlee, came to Texas before 1900. They settled in Stephens Co. My husband remembered seeing his great grandmother, Eliza Winnifred. She lived to be 95 years years old. She and many of the Greenlees and their kin are buried at Wayland Cemetery in Stephens Co., TX. Dortha McElroy Greenlee
Hi Fran, A little more background on this family. They are from Ga. My ggGdfather Thomas Taylor Thames and Sarah (Absolem daughter) were m in Randolph Co Ga in 1845/6. They moved to Barbour co Al for a couple of years then to Sumter Co AL where they were in 1850 census. More of the family was listed there including the Son-in-Law. Absolem and family were following their Daughter's new family to AL then to Newton Co MS. After the civil war in 1867, the Thames and four of the Temples daughters moved to Van Zandt Co Tx. But there is no record of the parents and the boys going to Tx. I lost them and would like to find what happened to them. The court minutes sounds really interesting but can not seem to open up the "T" to see what it says. I had not seen that document before and now am very curious. How do I get to see the file on AF Temples and the Thames that is listed? It may contain a lead for the Temples. An interesting civil war story from our family is that the northern general was using one of the Thames houses as a headquarters of sorts and he used to have a relative child sit on his lap and play with her, then when he moved on he burned the Thames house. Any help on the Temples or Thames would be appreciated. Paul Thames
Hi Fran, thanks for responding. They were listed under Temples with Absolem as the head of family. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jfrbol@aol.com> To: <MSNEWTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [MSNEWTON] Absolem Felter and Elizabeth Matthews Temples Family > > In a message dated 10/1/2005 8:53:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, > thamesp2@lava.net writes: > > Hi List, I am in need of help to locate cemetery and burial information > on this family. The last contact I had for them was the 1860 census in Newton > Co MS. Sons were named Samuel F, Daniel D, James S. A son-in-law was > living with them names Ezekiel H. Rolin with son names Rolin. Daughters > Amanda, Nancy E and Georginia moved to Van Zandt Co Tx in 1867. But there is no > record of the parents or sons moving to Texas so I believe they stayed in MS. > They might have moved to another county. Any help in locating them would be > greatly appreciated. Paul Thames > > > > > Paul, I looked for these people, using these spellings, on the census > records for all of MS and TX, but found none of them. > Under what name did you find them in Newton Co in 1860? > Fran Bolton > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
In a message dated 10/1/2005 8:53:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, thamesp2@lava.net writes: Hi List, I am in need of help to locate cemetery and burial information on this family. The last contact I had for them was the 1860 census in Newton Co MS. Sons were named Samuel F, Daniel D, James S. A son-in-law was living with them names Ezekiel H. Rolin with son names Rolin. Daughters Amanda, Nancy E and Georginia moved to Van Zandt Co Tx in 1867. But there is no record of the parents or sons moving to Texas so I believe they stayed in MS. They might have moved to another county. Any help in locating them would be greatly appreciated. Paul Thames Paul, I looked for these people, using these spellings, on the census records for all of MS and TX, but found none of them. Under what name did you find them in Newton Co in 1860? Fran Bolton
Hi List, I am in need of help to locate cemetery and burial information on this family. The last contact I had for them was the 1860 census in Newton Co MS. Sons were named Samuel F, Daniel D, James S. A son-in-law was living with them names Ezekiel H. Rolin with son names Rolin. Daughters Amanda, Nancy E and Georginia moved to Van Zandt Co Tx in 1867. But there is no record of the parents or sons moving to Texas so I believe they stayed in MS. They might have moved to another county. Any help in locating them would be greatly appreciated. Paul Thames
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: West Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JKB.2ACI/2120.1.1 Message Board Post: Fran, Thanks for the reference to the 1910 census. I found them with your assistance. - Don
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: West Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JKB.2ACI/2120.1 Message Board Post: Don, on the 1910 census, there is: Mary R West, age 72, M1, 48, 7-6, AL SC SC with husband James D West, 71 M1, 48, MS KY KY, Clergyman, and dau Virginia, 30 S, MS MS AL, Music Teacher Also a Darling West, Male, S, Boarder On the 1920 census Darling (could be Derling) is married with son James D.. I can email you copies of these census pages. Fran Bolton
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: West, Waddel Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JKB.2ACI/2120 Message Board Post: Searching for information on the family of Mary Waddel West. She died 22 April 1919 In Nwton Co. and I believe she is buried in Masonic Cemetery in Newton. She was 81 and probably living with family that I would like to identify.
I am searching for the parents of Nancy "Nannie" Catherine Mabry who was the second wife of J. D. Mabry. She apparently was married previously to Unknown. They had daughters: Nancy and Teresa. She had one son Junior D. Mabry by J.D. Mabry her second husband. Nancy wasBORN 10/14/1926 DIED 7/8/1985 buried in Barker Cemetery in Lauderdale co.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: TRUITT, HYDE, EDWARDS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/JKB.2ACI/2098.2 Message Board Post: Looking for info on a marriage between T. I. TRUITT and Mary HYDE abt 1950. This is a 2nd marriage for my connection, Mary HYDE who was born 14 Sept 1908 to Hyman Simmons HYDE and Myrtis EDWARDS-HYDE of Louisiana and Texas. Any info about this TRUITT whould be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Mike Florissant, MO
This came out quite different than when I copied and pasted the index listing. I hope you can make out the names. If not, I'll attempt again. Fran Bolton
In a message dated 9/25/2005 6:10:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, pfourcse@hotmail.com writes: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JKB.2ACI/2098.1.1 Also Truitt Spelling for 1910: _TRUITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truitt&series=13&state=20&hitcount=18&p=1&urn=urn:proques t:US;census;5494108;25389345;13;20&searchtype=1&offset=14) SAMUEL S 49 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1910 _TRUITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truitt&series=13&state=20&hitcount=18&p=1&urn=urn:proques t:US;census;5494120;25389939;13;20&searchtype=1&offset=16) WILLIAM 60 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1910 _TRUITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truitt&series=13&state=20&hitcount=18&p=1&urn=urn:proque st:US;census;5494119;25389881;13;20&searchtype=1&offset=12) NANNIE 45 F W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1910 Fran Bolton
In a message dated 9/25/2005 6:10:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, pfourcse@hotmail.com writes: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JKB.2ACI/2098.1.1 Here is a list of census pages I can email you copies of, if they would be of any help. Fran Bolton _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=12&state=20&hitcount=5&p=1&urn=urn:proque st:US;census;17057693;136718412;12;20&searchtype=1&offset=0) JAMES W 26 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1900 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=12&state=20&hit count=5&p=1&urn=urn:proquest:US;census;17057425;136705407;12;20&searchtype=1&o ffset=1) JOHN 40 M W MS MS NESHOBA 3-BT 1900 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhit t&series=12&state=20&hitcount=5&p=1&urn=urn:proquest:US;census;17042678;135954 270;12;20&searchtype=1&offset=2) JOHN W 65 M W MS MS COVINGTON OAKOHAY 1900 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=12&state=20&hitcount=5&p=1&urn=urn:pro quest:US;census;17057685;136718069;12;20&searchtype=1&offset=3) SAMUEL 38 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1900 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=12&state=20&h itcount=5&p=1&urn=urn:proquest:US;census;17057417;136705043;12;20&searchtype=1 &offset=4) THOMAS 28 M W MS MS NESHOBA 3-BT 1900 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=14&state=20&hitcount=4&p=1&urn=urn:proque st:US;census;14775677;108161821;14;20&searchtype=1&offset=0) JAMES 45 M W MS MS NESHOBA 3-BT 1920 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=14&state=20&hitc ount=4&p=1&urn=urn:proquest:US;census;14776058;108181920;14;20&searchtype=1&of fset=1) JOHN B 50 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1920 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhit t&series=14&state=20&hitcount=4&p=1&urn=urn:proquest:US;census;14776093;108183 813;14;20&searchtype=1&offset=2) JOSEPH P 37 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1920 _TRUHITT_ (http://persi.heritagequestonline.com/hqoweb/library/do/census/results/image?surname=truhitt&series=14&state=20&hitcount=4&p=1&urn=urn:proques t:US;census;14776057;108181882;14;20&searchtype=1&offset=3) SAMUEL S 59 M W MS MS NEWTON 2-BT 1920