Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is what I have in my Pickle data base: A man named James Morrow had two sons - John and Francis. John married a Sarah and had two daughters that I know of: Nancy Jane and Mary E. Nancy Jane married John H. Pickle. Francis had one daughter that I know of: Martha Jane Morrow. Martha marred a Rufus Irvin. Where is this cemetery located? Greg Green ________________________________ From: Jim Boozer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:09:41 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Greg, 'Long time, no contact.....how are you??? I worked up directions and map to both Danner and Lockhart Cemeteries. Terry may have his copy handy. (Terry, if you recall our lunch at Pickle's on the hill with Lori and others. I gave out directions and map.) If not, I'll send later. I don't know how Jim went in, but either way off US Hwy 278 E, you have to go onto private property. Although, he could have gone in from the back where his son hunts. If anyone is interested, this Morrow line is proven for DAR membership. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "greg green" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery This is what I have in my Pickle data base: A man named James Morrow had two sons - John and Francis. John married a Sarah and had two daughters that I know of: Nancy Jane and Mary E. Nancy Jane married John H. Pickle. Francis had one daughter that I know of: Martha Jane Morrow. Martha marred a Rufus Irvin. Where is this cemetery located? Greg Green ________________________________ From: Jim Boozer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:09:41 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message