As I recall from articles on the Chickasaw lands on the western side of Monroe County (surrounding the early county except for the Alabama border), Cotton Gin Port was on the border of the Chickasaw territory at the western edge of Monroe County and processed the cotton grown by many of the Chickasaws. The Chickasaw chief kept a trading post on the Indian side of the border. The Chickasaws were more westernized than most Indian tribes, having log and wooden homes and slaves, as well as growing cotton. They also intermarried with white people and were allowed to remain in Mississippi when other Indian tribes were forced to go to Indian Territory (Oklahoma). But their leaders were so disappointed in the deterioration of their culture exposed to white infiltration (especially due to alcohol and exploitation) that they decided to make the trek to Oklahoma voluntarily. They were promised supplies and support for their trek through Arkansas by the government, but it failed to materialize (again due to exploitation and graft) and many of them died there on their trail of tears. Some of my Parchman distant cousins lived near Cotton Gin Port in the 1820s. Here are some links I found: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ms/monroe/history/cottongp.txt http://www.swroadsigns.com/mscrossings/cgp2.htm http://books.google.com/books?id=IvzXNLjyzJkC&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147&dq=Cotton+Gin+Port+Mississippi+Chickasaws&source=bl&ots=-814WbMA5N&sig=IkxqF81fKjH3G2KiVD2zh4dDUEA&hl=en&ei=C5_ISpKrHdCSlAf0zJmSAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=Cotton%20Gin%20Port%20Mississippi%20Chickasaws&f=false This latter link must be pasted in its entirety into the web URL space. Gerry Parchman

I would like to make a suggestion, and hope I'm not out of order, here, but it is my opinion that it would be much better for the archives, and much easier to read, if, when replying to a message on the list, we would delete all other previous messages than the one to which we are replying. This is especially true when there is as much wonderful information as has been on the list lately. Thanks, and I apologize if this is out of order, Glenda

Wanda, I don't have Calcote in my line. I've never worked on that family. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda Carlton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Does anyone have CALCOTE in their research ? > > Wanda > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On > Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > 'Just a comment......the Alsup, Danner, and Morrow families are related. > Others connected are Ray, Irvin, and Smithson, to name a few. These > families were mostly in SE Monroe, with others up toward Splunge and Sipsey > Fork. > > MA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra & Tom Stephens" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda". I found an > entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, > father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees. I couldn't see a connection > to the McKowns in this entry. > > Sandra > > --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do > hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. > > The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on > the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by > Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this > family. > > Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County > Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: > > McKOWN, W.M > June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 > > McDOWN (sic), Lavina > November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 > > MORROW, Francis > Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. > No dates > > I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from > the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; > in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, > Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This > is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. > > But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I > find > WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC > LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC > GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL > > and living next door: > FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC > LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS > Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL > > More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between > Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just > speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image > page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports > may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. > > Some good materials to consider: > 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery > 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. > 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC > > When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the > census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these > folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census > records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after > 1860. > > Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > Terry, Mary Anna, > > > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > > a > > small cemetery at Gatman > > > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > > others > > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > > of > > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > > what or where their families > > > > may be. > > > > Jim Boozer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > > Thornton > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > > Glenda, > > > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > > RECORDS. > > > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > > Stanford > > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > > Stanford Cemetery. > > > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > > find > > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > > two > > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > > beginning > > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > > The > > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > > to > > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > > Her inventory is at > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > > > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > > -cd-ordering.html). > > > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > > Cemetery --- > > both their large markers are located there. > > > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > > my > > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > > John > > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > > > Terry Thornton > > Fulton, Mississippi > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > >> Byrd", but is barely legible. > >> > >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > >> > >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > >> > >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > >> to this haunting question. > >> > >> Glenda McWhirter Todd > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.420 / Virus Database: 270.14.3/2411 - Release Date: 10/03/09 > 06:20:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Is going from your son's home a better way than from 278? MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > Anne, Greg, > > the cemetery is located a Anne described it. It may be 100 yards from the > highway on the south side. > I get to it from my son's home but it is accessible across private property > from the highway 278 > > Jim Boozer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > > > Is the Danner Cemetery in Gattman on a hill just southwest of the blinking > light? I remember this as a child, but never went there. > > I have two uncles who died as babies who are buried there, but I think I > remember my Grandmother saying they did not have markers. One died in 1919 > and in 1925 so any temporary marker would be long gone. > > Anne Stockton O'Neal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > > > > Thganks Everyone, > > > > I did not know the cemetery had a name. It is almost in down town Gattman > > on or close to hunting club land my son hunts on. I had missed the fact > > that McKown was next door to Morrow. Terry7, anytime will do on taking you > > to the site. Mary Anna, I was curious if the McKown was kin to the Quincy > > Cowans. Seeing as how both parents were dead when son George would have > > been > > only 12 year old it would be a good chance he did not make it to be an > > adult. > > Thanks again, > > > > Jim Boozer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:30 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery > > has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few > > more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious > > to > > know who knew where Danner was located. > > > > I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're > > interested, I can look up those notes. > > > > MA > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > >> Terry, Mary Anna, > >> > >> While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > > a > >> small cemetery at Gatman > >> > >> with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > > others > >> by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > >> > >> Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > >> 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > >> > >> marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > >> McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > >> > >> census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > > of > >> 23 yr from Mississippi. > >> > >> > >> Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > >> what or where their families > >> > >> may be. > >> > >> Jim Boozer > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > >> Thornton > >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > >> > >> > >> Glenda, > >> > >> There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > >> Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > >> RECORDS. > >> > >> In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > >> inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also > >> inventoried > >> the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > > Stanford > >> Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > >> Stanford Cemetery. > >> > >> It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > >> crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript > >> was > >> being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > > find > >> Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > >> > >> If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > > two > >> names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > > beginning > >> of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > > The > >> only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > >> 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > > to > >> Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > >> > >> You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > >> Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > >> Her inventory is at > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > >> > >> I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > >> Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > >> Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > >> with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > >> article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > >> > > > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > >> -cd-ordering.html). > >> > >> It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > > Cemetery --- > >> both their large markers are located there. > >> > >> But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > > my > >> offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > >> advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > > John > >> K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > >> > >> Terry Thornton > >> Fulton, Mississippi > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > >> Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > >> > >> > >> >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > >> > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > >> > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > >> > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > >> > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker > >> > in > >> > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > >> > Byrd", but is barely legible. > >> > > >> > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > >> > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > >> > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > >> > > >> > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > >> > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > >> > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had > >> > two > >> > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the > >> > other > >> > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > >> > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > >> > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > >> > > >> > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > >> > to this haunting question. > >> > > >> > Glenda McWhirter Todd > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found my directions..........for anyone who's interested. Anne, we need you to document the burial of the babies. Both should have death certificates. These two cemeteries are so close and seem to have "over-lapping" family connections. Dr. Hamilton has them listed as this: S T R Lockhart 5-14-17 Danner 5-14-16 For Lockhart......From Aberdeen/Amory, intersect US Hwy 278 E. going toward Gattman, MS. As you are nearing Gattman, watch for a white (off white) sign on the right side of the road which says, "Gattman Holiness Church." The paved road you need to take goes between that sign and a brown/tan metal building. It is a short, winding, up hill road. As you come to the top of the hill, the church will be in front of you. To the right will be the Northington Cemetery. To the left will be the new part of Lockhart cemetery. Look over your right shoulder and there is the old part of the cemetery. For Danner.....Back track out of Lockhart Cemetery down to US HWY 278 E. Turn right. Go ~.8 mile (At the time we went, they had bright blue garbage cans on the roadside, but now probably have the new county ones.) Turn right by the garbage cans. The road immediately splits into two driveways. The left one goes up the hill. The cemetery can be accessed from this point. Park your car at the top of the hill (private residence to your left), look for a "path" into the woods on the right. Go down the path, bear to the left until you find another "path"......the cemetery should be on your left. The right driveway skirts around a few trees and appears to be going right up to a provate residence......and it does. As you drive up to the side of the house, look up and left. You should see a "path" go into the woods. Take that path, bearing to the right as you intersect another trail, and the cemetery should be on the left. If someone is home at either residence, in my opinion, it would be good to state your business and ask their permission. Fruitful searching, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > Is the Danner Cemetery in Gattman on a hill just southwest of the blinking > light? I remember this as a child, but never went there. > > I have two uncles who died as babies who are buried there, but I think I > remember my Grandmother saying they did not have markers. One died in 1919 > and in 1925 so any temporary marker would be long gone. > > Anne Stockton O'Neal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > > > > Thganks Everyone, > > > > I did not know the cemetery had a name. It is almost in down town Gattman > > on or close to hunting club land my son hunts on. I had missed the fact > > that McKown was next door to Morrow. Terry7, anytime will do on taking you > > to the site. Mary Anna, I was curious if the McKown was kin to the Quincy > > Cowans. Seeing as how both parents were dead when son George would have > > been > > only 12 year old it would be a good chance he did not make it to be an > > adult. > > Thanks again, > > > > Jim Boozer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:30 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > > Jim, > > > > You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery > > has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few > > more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious > > to > > know who knew where Danner was located. > > > > I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're > > interested, I can look up those notes. > > > > MA > > ---- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > >> Terry, Mary Anna, > >> > >> While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > > a > >> small cemetery at Gatman > >> > >> with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > > others > >> by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > >> > >> Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > >> 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > >> > >> marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > >> McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > >> > >> census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > > of > >> 23 yr from Mississippi. > >> > >> > >> Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > >> what or where their families > >> > >> may be. > >> > >> Jim Boozer > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > >> Thornton > >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > >> > >> > >> Glenda, > >> > >> There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > >> Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > >> RECORDS. > >> > >> In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > >> inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also > >> inventoried > >> the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > > Stanford > >> Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > >> Stanford Cemetery. > >> > >> It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > >> crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript > >> was > >> being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > > find > >> Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > >> > >> If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > > two > >> names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > > beginning > >> of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > > The > >> only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > >> 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > > to > >> Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > >> > >> You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > >> Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > >> Her inventory is at > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > >> > >> I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > >> Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > >> Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > >> with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > >> article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > >> > > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > >> -cd-ordering.html). > >> > >> It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > > Cemetery --- > >> both their large markers are located there. > >> > >> But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > > my > >> offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > >> advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > > John > >> K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > >> > >> Terry Thornton > >> Fulton, Mississippi > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > >> Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > >> > >> > >> >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > >> > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > >> > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > >> > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > >> > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker > >> > in > >> > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > >> > Byrd", but is barely legible. > >> > > >> > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > >> > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > >> > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > >> > > >> > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > >> > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > >> > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had > >> > two > >> > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the > >> > other > >> > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > >> > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > >> > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > >> > > >> > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > >> > to this haunting question. > >> > > >> > Glenda McWhirter Todd > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne, Greg, the cemetery is located a Anne described it. It may be 100 yards from the highway on the south side. I get to it from my son's home but it is accessible across private property from the highway 278 Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery Is the Danner Cemetery in Gattman on a hill just southwest of the blinking light? I remember this as a child, but never went there. I have two uncles who died as babies who are buried there, but I think I remember my Grandmother saying they did not have markers. One died in 1919 and in 1925 so any temporary marker would be long gone. Anne Stockton O'Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > Thganks Everyone, > > I did not know the cemetery had a name. It is almost in down town Gattman > on or close to hunting club land my son hunts on. I had missed the fact > that McKown was next door to Morrow. Terry7, anytime will do on taking you > to the site. Mary Anna, I was curious if the McKown was kin to the Quincy > Cowans. Seeing as how both parents were dead when son George would have > been > only 12 year old it would be a good chance he did not make it to be an > adult. > Thanks again, > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Jim, > > You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery > has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few > more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious > to > know who knew where Danner was located. > > I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're > interested, I can look up those notes. > > MA > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >> Terry, Mary Anna, >> >> While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a >> small cemetery at Gatman >> >> with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others >> by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell >> >> Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 >> 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate >> >> marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the >> McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 >> >> census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of >> 23 yr from Mississippi. >> >> >> Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and >> what or where their families >> >> may be. >> >> Jim Boozer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" >> Thornton >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >> >> >> Glenda, >> >> There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George >> Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY >> RECORDS. >> >> In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford >> inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also >> inventoried >> the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford >> Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from >> Stanford Cemetery. >> >> It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his >> crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript >> was >> being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find >> Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. >> >> If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two >> names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning >> of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The >> only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. >> 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to >> Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. >> >> You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by >> Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. >> Her inventory is at >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html >> >> I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both >> Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at >> Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory >> with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in >> article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country >> > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country >> -cd-ordering.html). >> >> It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- >> both their large markers are located there. >> >> But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my >> offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in >> advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John >> K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. >> >> Terry Thornton >> Fulton, Mississippi >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM >> Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >> >> >> >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker >> > in >> > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> > Byrd", but is barely legible. >> > >> > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> > >> > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had >> > two >> > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the >> > other >> > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> > >> > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> > to this haunting question. >> > >> > Glenda McWhirter Todd >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have CALCOTE in their research ? Wanda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery 'Just a comment......the Alsup, Danner, and Morrow families are related. Others connected are Ray, Irvin, and Smithson, to name a few. These families were mostly in SE Monroe, with others up toward Splunge and Sipsey Fork. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Tom Stephens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda". I found an entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees. I couldn't see a connection to the McKowns in this entry. Sandra --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this family. Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: McKOWN, W.M June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 McDOWN (sic), Lavina November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 MORROW, Francis Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. No dates I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I find WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL and living next door: FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. Some good materials to consider: 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after 1860. Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> Byrd", but is barely legible. >> >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> to this haunting question. >> >> Glenda McWhirter Todd >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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Is the Danner Cemetery in Gattman on a hill just southwest of the blinking light? I remember this as a child, but never went there. I have two uncles who died as babies who are buried there, but I think I remember my Grandmother saying they did not have markers. One died in 1919 and in 1925 so any temporary marker would be long gone. Anne Stockton O'Neal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Danner Cemetery > Thganks Everyone, > > I did not know the cemetery had a name. It is almost in down town Gattman > on or close to hunting club land my son hunts on. I had missed the fact > that McKown was next door to Morrow. Terry7, anytime will do on taking you > to the site. Mary Anna, I was curious if the McKown was kin to the Quincy > Cowans. Seeing as how both parents were dead when son George would have > been > only 12 year old it would be a good chance he did not make it to be an > adult. > Thanks again, > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Jim, > > You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery > has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few > more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious > to > know who knew where Danner was located. > > I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're > interested, I can look up those notes. > > MA > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >> Terry, Mary Anna, >> >> While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a >> small cemetery at Gatman >> >> with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others >> by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell >> >> Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 >> 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate >> >> marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the >> McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 >> >> census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of >> 23 yr from Mississippi. >> >> >> Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and >> what or where their families >> >> may be. >> >> Jim Boozer >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" >> Thornton >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >> >> >> Glenda, >> >> There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George >> Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY >> RECORDS. >> >> In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford >> inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also >> inventoried >> the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford >> Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from >> Stanford Cemetery. >> >> It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his >> crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript >> was >> being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find >> Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. >> >> If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two >> names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning >> of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The >> only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. >> 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to >> Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. >> >> You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by >> Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. >> Her inventory is at >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html >> >> I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both >> Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at >> Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory >> with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in >> article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country >> > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country >> -cd-ordering.html). >> >> It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- >> both their large markers are located there. >> >> But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my >> offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in >> advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John >> K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. >> >> Terry Thornton >> Fulton, Mississippi >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]e.net> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM >> Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >> >> >> >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker >> > in >> > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> > Byrd", but is barely legible. >> > >> > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> > >> > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had >> > two >> > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the >> > other >> > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> > >> > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> > to this haunting question. >> > >> > Glenda McWhirter Todd >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Greg, 'Long time, no contact.....how are you??? I worked up directions and map to both Danner and Lockhart Cemeteries. Terry may have his copy handy. (Terry, if you recall our lunch at Pickle's on the hill with Lori and others. I gave out directions and map.) If not, I'll send later. I don't know how Jim went in, but either way off US Hwy 278 E, you have to go onto private property. Although, he could have gone in from the back where his son hunts. If anyone is interested, this Morrow line is proven for DAR membership. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "greg green" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery This is what I have in my Pickle data base: A man named James Morrow had two sons - John and Francis. John married a Sarah and had two daughters that I know of: Nancy Jane and Mary E. Nancy Jane married John H. Pickle. Francis had one daughter that I know of: Martha Jane Morrow. Martha marred a Rufus Irvin. Where is this cemetery located? Greg Green ________________________________ From: Jim Boozer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:09:41 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

'Just a comment......the Alsup, Danner, and Morrow families are related. Others connected are Ray, Irvin, and Smithson, to name a few. These families were mostly in SE Monroe, with others up toward Splunge and Sipsey Fork. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Tom Stephens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda". I found an entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees. I couldn't see a connection to the McKowns in this entry. Sandra --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this family. Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: McKOWN, W.M June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 McDOWN (sic), Lavina November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 MORROW, Francis Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. No dates I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I find WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL and living next door: FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. Some good materials to consider: 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after 1860. Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> Byrd", but is barely legible. >> >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> to this haunting question. >> >> Glenda McWhirter Todd >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thganks Everyone, I did not know the cemetery had a name. It is almost in down town Gattman on or close to hunting club land my son hunts on. I had missed the fact that McKown was next door to Morrow. Terry7, anytime will do on taking you to the site. Mary Anna, I was curious if the McKown was kin to the Quincy Cowans. Seeing as how both parents were dead when son George would have been only 12 year old it would be a good chance he did not make it to be an adult. Thanks again, Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Mary Anna Riggan Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Jim, You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious to know who knew where Danner was located. I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're interested, I can look up those notes. MA ---- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > > to this haunting question. > > > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I looked up the Military unit and the two service records to see if there were some useful clues, but there is very little about the unit. It may be that after 60 days it dissolved and the men went into other units. William died in January and there were no battles in MS that I am aware of, so I would guess that he may have contracted a contagious diseases from another soldier. Neither one of the men appear in any other unit. Francis Morrow, Pvt. Co A. 1 Batt’n MS 60-day Volunteers Undated payroll, Period of service November 24, 1861 to June 15, 1862, 1 month 21 days Endorsement shows paid Feb 12, 1862 W. M. McKeown, Pvt. Co A. 1 Batt’n MS 60-day Volunteers Undated payroll roster, Period of service November 24, 1861 to June 15, 1862, 1 month 21 days Endorsement shows paid Feb 12, 1862 First Battalion, Infantry, Army of 10,000, also called Beckett’s Battalion Acting Major, Newton J. Beckett Company A, Buttahatchie Riflemen, Captain Newton J. Beckett Mustered in by L. Haughton and M.T. Berry for a period of 60 days Mustered in on December 15, 1861 The only record for the men in this battalion is one payroll record. They were mustered in for 60 days on Dec 15th. The record shows a “period of service from Nov 1861 to June 1862”, but that probably doesn’t refer to their actual service. It appears that they served from muster on Dec 15, 1861 to February 12, 1862. On the same film with First (Percy’s) Infantry, Army of 10,000 and Co A stationed in Grenada Feb 1, 1862 Colonel W.A. Percy Microcopy No. 269, Roll 107 Robin On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Sandra & Tom Stephens <[email protected]>wrote: > I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda". I found an > entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, > father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees. I couldn't see a connection > to the McKowns in this entry. > > Sandra > > --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM > > > Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I > do > hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. > > The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on > the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by > Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this > family. > > Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County > Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: > > McKOWN, W.M > June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 > > McDOWN (sic), Lavina > November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 > > MORROW, Francis > Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. > No dates > > I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from > the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; > in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company > A, > Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This > is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. > > But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I > find > WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC > LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC > GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL > > and living next door: > FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC > LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS > Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL > > More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between > Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just > speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image > page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports > may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. > > Some good materials to consider: > 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery > 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. > 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC > > When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in > the > census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who > these > folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census > records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after > 1860. > > Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > Terry, Mary Anna, > > > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > > a > > small cemetery at Gatman > > > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > > others > > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > > of > > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > > what or where their families > > > > may be. > > > > Jim Boozer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > > Thornton > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > > Glenda, > > > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > > RECORDS. > > > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also > inventoried > > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > > Stanford > > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > > Stanford Cemetery. > > > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript > was > > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > > find > > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > > two > > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > > beginning > > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > > The > > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > > to > > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > > Her inventory is at > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html<http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Emsmonro2/cems/shiloh.html> > > > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > > > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > > -cd-ordering.html). > > > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > > Cemetery --- > > both their large markers are located there. > > > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > > my > > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > > John > > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > > > Terry Thornton > > Fulton, Mississippi > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > >> Byrd", but is barely legible. > >> > >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > >> > >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > >> > >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > >> to this haunting question. > >> > >> Glenda McWhirter Todd > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I do have some Morrows in my file - one Jennet "Jane" married to a William McCain (McCains are my line). Jennet daughter of John Morrow and Margaret Boyd.   Also I see on the 'net that William Mitchell McKown in the Danner Cemetery was the son of George and Jane Lockhart McKown of Union Co., SC.  W.M. married Lavina Tate.   Sandra --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Mary Anna Riggan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Mary Anna Riggan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 8:59 PM 'Just a comment......the Alsup, Danner, and Morrow families are related. Others connected are Ray, Irvin, and Smithson, to name a few.  These families were mostly in SE Monroe, with others up toward Splunge and Sipsey Fork. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Tom Stephens" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda". I found an entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees. I couldn't see a connection to the McKowns in this entry. Sandra --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this family. Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: McKOWN, W.M June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 McDOWN (sic), Lavina November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 MORROW, Francis Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. No dates I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I find WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL and living next door: FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. Some good materials to consider: 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after 1860. Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> Byrd", but is barely legible. >> >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> to this haunting question. >> >> Glenda McWhirter Todd >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is what I have in my Pickle data base: A man named James Morrow had two sons - John and Francis. John married a Sarah and had two daughters that I know of: Nancy Jane and Mary E. Nancy Jane married John H. Pickle. Francis had one daughter that I know of: Martha Jane Morrow. Martha marred a Rufus Irvin. Where is this cemetery located? Greg Green ________________________________ From: Jim Boozer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2009 5:09:41 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery.  They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110.  The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110.  No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne.  She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009.  No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh.  That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely?  Hope this helps.  And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by Nita Lindsey whose email address is given. She may have knowledge of this family. Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: McKOWN, W.M June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 McDOWN (sic), Lavina November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 MORROW, Francis Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. No dates I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from the census today. I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. This is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I find WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL and living next door: FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just speculation. I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative. The SC census reports may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. Some good materials to consider: 1. McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery 2. McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. 3. McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these folks are. I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census records yet --- but he may be listed on the Monroe County MS census after 1860. Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference > to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And > my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> Byrd", but is barely legible. >> >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> to this haunting question. >> >> Glenda McWhirter Todd >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, You were in the Danner Cemetery. It bothers me greatly that the cemetery has been more or less "forgotten." It's hard to get to now, so in a few more years, it'll probably be one of the "lost" ones. I'm really curious to know who knew where Danner was located. I did some work on the McKown/McGown family several years ago. If you're interested, I can look up those notes. MA ---- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > > to this haunting question. > > > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe the name in the census should have been "Lucinda".  I found an entry on WorldConnect for this Francis Morrow - he married Lucinda Alsop, father Elisha Benton Alsop, mother Martha Rees.  I couldn't see a connection to the McKowns in this entry.   Sandra --- On Sat, 10/3/09, William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> wrote: From: William T. "Terry" Thornton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 6:35 PM Jim, This is one of the older cemeteries I would like to photograph --- I do hope you are willing to show it to me one of these days. The names you mention are included in the inventory of DANNER CEMETERY on the Monroe County Mississippi Genealogy and History page --- inventory by Nita Lindsey whose email address is given.  She may have knowledge of this family. Evans in May 1938 inventoried DANNER CEMETERY (page 137, Monroe County Mississippi Cemetery Records) as having three marked graves: McKOWN, W.M June 25, 1830 - January 28, 1862 McDOWN (sic), Lavina November 27, 1836 - March 31, 1870 MORROW, Francis Company A, 1st Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A. No dates I know nothing about the McKowns or of Morrow except what I've learned from the census today.  I find neither name in the Chancery Court Records Index; in Mother Monroe a W.M. McKEOWN is mentioned as being a member of Company A, Beckett's Battalion of the 1st Battalion Mississippi Infantry, C.S.A.  This is the same unit that Francis Morrow was in. But on the Pikeville PO, Western Division, Marion County AL 1860 Census I find WILLIAM McKEOWN, 30 born SC LEVINA McKEOWN, 19 born SC GEORGE McKEOWN, 2, born AL and living next door: FRANCIS MORROW, 26 born SC LUCINA MORROW, 23 born MS Martha MORROW, 7/12 born AL More research is needed to determine the relationship, if any, between Morrow and McKeown --- they could be married to sisters but that is just speculation.  I wish someone else would transcribe the 1860 census image page --- the spelling of LUCINA Morrow is tentative.  The SC census reports may also tell something of the Morrow/McKeown family relationships. Some good materials to consider: 1.  McKeown and Morrow are buried in the same cemetery 2.  McKeown and Morrow probably served in the same C.S.A. military unit. 3.  McKeown and Morrow were both born in SC When I have time I will try to track Martha Morrow and George McKeown in the census/internet to determine if there is a record there to explain who these folks are.  I have not attempted to track Francis Morrow on the census records yet --- but he may be listed  on the Monroe County MS census after 1860. Thanks, Jim, for pointing out this cemetery. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boozer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > Terry, Mary Anna, > > While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown > a > small cemetery at Gatman > > with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the > others > by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell > > Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 > 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate > > marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the > McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 > > census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina > of > 23 yr from Mississippi. > > > Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and > what or where their families > > may be. > > Jim Boozer > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" > Thornton > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > > Glenda, > > There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George > Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY > RECORDS. > > In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford > inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery.  They must have also inventoried > the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of > Stanford > Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from > Stanford Cemetery. > > It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his > crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was > being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot > find > Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. > > If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last > two > names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the > beginning > of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. > The > only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. > 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110.  No other notation or reference > to > Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. > > You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by > Patricia Horne.  She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. > Her inventory is at > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html > > I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both > Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009.  No Bird/Byrd burials were found at > Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh.  That inventory > with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in > article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country > http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country > -cd-ordering.html). > > It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh > Cemetery --- > both their large markers are located there. > > But can't these old records confuse us completely?  Hope this helps.  And > my > offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in > advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where > John > K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. > > Terry Thornton > Fulton, Mississippi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM > Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery > > >>I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first >> started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, >> Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the >> Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and >> husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in >> his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk >> Byrd", but is barely legible. >> >> A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of >> tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in >> the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. >> >> John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if >> she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah >> Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two >> different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other >> one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah >> and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there >> also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. >> >> I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer >> to this haunting question. >> >> Glenda McWhirter Todd >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terry, Mary Anna, While everyone is on cemeteries I would like some info. I have been shown a small cemetery at Gatman with at most five burials, three marked by proper tombstones and the others by sandstone. A man, W Mitchell Mckown dated June 25 1830/Jan 28 1862 with wife Lavina dated Nov 27 1839?/Nov 31 1870. Also a confederate marker for Francis Morrow with no dates. I cannot find anything on the McKown, (Cowan)? but find in 1860 census of Marion Co A Francis Morrow of 26 yr from S C. With wife Lucina of 23 yr from Mississippi. Also a child Martha of 7 months old. Just curious as to who they were and what or where their families may be. Jim Boozer -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of William T. "Terry" Thornton Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery Glenda, There is a problem with the Evans' 1938 transcription of Thompson/George Stanford Cemetery, pages 109 - 110 of MONORE COUNTY MISSISSIPPI CEMETERY RECORDS. In May 1938, Dr. Evans, assisted by Horace Baker and Frank Crawford inventoried the George Stanford Cemetery. They must have also inventoried the Shiloh Cemetery which is located nearby beccause their list of Stanford Cemetery contains 9 names from Shiloh Cemetery and only 14 names from Stanford Cemetery. It is my opinion that the lists of two cemeteries which Dr. Evans and his crew inventoried in 1938 got mixed up and combined when the manuscript was being typed --- and that the mistake haunts us decades later. I cannot find Shiloh Cemetery in their index of cemeteries. If you have access to the Evans inventory as reprinted in 1980, the last two names listed as Stanford Cemetery at the bottom of page 109 is the beginning of the Shiloh Cemetery burials which continues on the top of page 110. The only reference on either page to BIRD is "Bird, John K. Born -- 26 Sept. 1831, Died -- 21 Sept. 1905" on page 110. No other notation or reference to Bird burials is made by Evans on either page. You may also wish to consult the inventory of Shiloh Cemetery done by Patricia Horne. She found both of your Byrds when she was there in 2006. Her inventory is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~msmonro2/cems/shiloh.html I did an inventory based upon photographs of the grave markers at both Shiloh and Thompson/Stanford in 2009. No Bird/Byrd burials were found at Thompson/Stanford; two Byrd burials were noted at Shiloh. That inventory with links to the photographs is from March 20, 2009 and was published in article # 80 of Cemeteries of the Hill Country http://cemeterieshillcountry.blogspot.com/2009/08/cemeteries-of-hill-country -cd-ordering.html). It is my opinon that both Mr and Mrs Byrd are buried at Shiloh Cemetery --- both their large markers are located there. But can't these old records confuse us completely? Hope this helps. And my offer still stands --- next time you are in Monroe County let me know in advance and I'll make arrangement to take you to Shiloh Cemetery where John K Byrd and his wife's grave markers are located. Terry Thornton Fulton, Mississippi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda Todd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:00 AM Subject: [MSMONROE] Thompson-Stanford Cemetery >I have a problem I am in hopes someone can help me with. When I first > started the quest for my heritage, I found a tombstone for my ancestor, > Elvira Caroline Moore Byrd, wife of John Kirk Byrd, in the > Thompson-Stanford Cemetery, which was on the property where she and > husband lived. Dr. Evans has the tombstone as John Kirk Byrd's marker in > his book but it says on the marker, "Elvira C. Byrd, Wife of John Kirk > Byrd", but is barely legible. > > A few months ago, Terry Thornton so graciously sent me pictures of > tombstones for Elvira C. Moore Byrd and John Kirk Byrd and they are in > the Shiloah Cemetery in Monroe Co., MS. > > John Kirk Byrd died in 1891 and Elvira died 1905, but I'm not sure if > she is buried in the Thompson-Stanford Cemetery or in the Shiloah > Cemetery. Does ANYONE know which grave is really hers or why she had two > different tombstones??? The marker at Shiloah looks newer than the other > one so I'm wondering if John Kirk Byrd was actually buried in Shiloah > and the descendant who erected them assumed Elvira was buried there > also, not knowing about the other marker, so they erected both of them. > > I'm hoping there is a descendant on this list who might know the answer > to this haunting question. > > Glenda McWhirter Todd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Molly, We still call it Cotton Gin Port. Traveling west out of Amory on US Hwy 278, you'll find a Historical Marker denoting the area. My understanding is that the actual port/town was south of the marker along the Tombigbee River. Maybe other listmembers, more knowledgeable than I, will answer your question. MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Molly Pere" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: [MSMONROE] Where was Cotton Gin Port ? > Hello Listmembers > Seeing mention of Cotton Gin Port in a post reminds me to ask the list a question. I have an ancestor who lived there and I realize that the town no longer exists , but I'd love to know what that area is called now. Could someone please help ? > Thanks, > Molly > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if this is the right James Moore, but the timing seems right: James Moore married Elizabeth Troup on 17 Jan 1865 in Monroe County. This is from Hunting for Bears, MS Marriages. Robin On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Clare Herrick <[email protected]> wrote: > I am trying to find out more about this family. One of his daughters, > Carrie B. Moore, married Silas Barksdale Gillespie. He was from Chickasaw > County near Egypt, I believe. He worked for the railroad and the family had > moved to Tuscaloosa. Carrie died on October 11, 1911, possibly in > Tuscaloosa, and is buried in Aberdeen at Odd Fellows Rest. I know nothing > more about where her family than what I found on the 1880 census. I believe > James Moore was a son of Lucien Blevins Moore and Rebecca J. Buckingham. > Descendants of James Moore > > Generation No. 1 > > > 1. JAMES3 MOORE (LUCIEN BLEVINS2, JAMES1) was born Bet. 1833 - 1835 in > Cotton Gin Port, Monroe County, Mississippi, and died Aft. 1880 in Beat 3, > Monroe County, Mississippi. He married ELIZABETH _________. She was born > 1845 in Mississippi, and died Aft. 1880 in Beat 3, Monroe County, > Mississippi. Deaths and places of burial are unknown to me. > > > Children of JAMES MOORE and ELIZABETH ______ are: > > i. MARY B.4 MOORE, b. Abt. 1866; d. Aft. 1880, Cotton Gin, Monroe County, > Mississippi. Marriage, death and place of burial are unknown to me. > > ii. CARRIE B. MOORE, b. December 14, 1868, Monroe, Mississippi; d. October > 11, 1911, Aberdeen, Monroe, Mississippi; m. SILAS BARKSDALE GILLESPIE, > November 18, 1887, Monroe, Mississippi; b. August 29, 1866, Chickasaw > County, MS; d. October 13, 1935, Artesia, Lowndes, Mississippi, USA. > > iii. WALTER MOORE, b. April 1870, Monroe County, Mississippi; d. Bet. 1870 > - 1880, Monroe County, Mississippi. Marriage, death and place of burial are > unknown to me. > > iv. MAGGIE B. MOORE, b. 1877. d. after 1880 . Marriage, death and place > of burial are unknown to me. > > Clare Herrick > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message