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    1. [MSMARSHA-L] FW: {not a subscriber} DORTCH of ?>LA>FL>? (Also Martin, Bethune, Meigs & Finley of NC, TN & AL)
    2. Deb Haines

    3. -----Original Message----- From: Paul & Fredreica Speyer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 10:04 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} DORTCH of ?>LA>FL>? (Also Martin, Bethune, Meigs & Finley of NC, TN & AL) I am seeking info. on the DORTCH family who came to Feliciana in the 1790's from SC. I believe they may connect with my Robert Dortch who settled in Ouachita Parish in West Monroe, La. near Bayou De Siard. Robert Dortch was a member of the Western Star Masonic Lodge 24 in the 1860's. He died near Oxford, Mississippi, on December 4,1869, at age 40. He was born about 1829. He married Mary Bethune Martin, the daughter of John Bethune Martin and Nancy Hill Harris of Montgomery County, NC. Robert Dortch and Mary Bethune Martin were married before 1861 in Holly Springs, Marshall County, Mississippi as per LDS Patron Sheets. While in Raleigh at the State Archives, I found a book by Daniel Allan McDonald that said that John Bethune Martin was living with his second daughter, Mary Bethune Martin, in Monroe, LA, when he died. She had married a wealthy planter named Robert Dortch, who also came from NC. Her sister was Margaret Harris Martin who was the 3rd wife of Jesse Johnson Finley (Gen). He was born in 1812 near Lebanon, Wilson County, Tenn., practiced law for a while in Arkansas, moved back to TN and was the Mayor of Memphis, settled in Florida where he was a U.S. Representative. He died died in Lake City, Florida, November 6, 1904. According to James T. Harris, the children of Robert Dortch and Mary Bethune Dortch were: Dortch, Alexander Martin Birth : 25 May 1852 Death : 21 Jul 1873 Gender: Male Dortch, William Eaton Birth : 24 Jan 1854 Death : 11 Jul 1901 Gender: Male Dortch, John Bethune Birth : 25 Aug 1862 Gender: Male Dortch, Robert Birth : 8 Dec 1864 Death : 1866 Gender: Male As per The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 97, page 47; Mrs. Mildred Bethune Dortch Harris. DAR ID Number: 96149 Wife of Theron D. Harris. Descendant of Claudius Pegues, and of Capt. Claudius Pegues, Jr., as follows: 1. John B. Dortch m. Mary Pegues. (I believe this may be John Bethune Dortch) Mary Bethune Martin who married James Lamme Meigs 23 Dec 1879 in Columbia County, Florida, after the death of Robert Dortch. James L. Meigs was born 25 Feb 1821 or 1827 in Athens, TN. His first wife was Katherine or Catherine Kirkpatrick. I wonder if she married in between these two husbands since Robert Dortch died 10 years before her marriage to James Meigs. I believe she must have moved to Florida to be near her sister, Margaret Harris Martin Finley. According to Hillsborough County, FL 1880 census records for District 61, Precinct 3, pg 12: Meigs, James L. w/m 53 TN TN TN engineer; Mary w/f 47 TN VA TN wife; Dortch, William D. w/m 27 TN VA TN stepson; Meigs, Alexander K. w/m 23 TN TN TN son; (Alexander Kilpatrick Meigs) Meigs, Mildred w/f 15 TN TN TN daughter. (It lists William as not being at home and Alexander as a Machinist.) Note: Two other Meigs sons, Return Jonathan Meigs and James Lamme Meigs were deceased by the 1881 census) I'm not so sure about some of the information on this census. I believe Mary Bethune Martin Dorch Meigs was born in NC. As were her parents, who weren't married until September 06, 1825, so I believe her age is off. John Bethune Martin was married before Nancy Harris and had as son named Atlas Jones Martin, but Mary Bethune Martin was always thought to be the daughter of Nancy. I also believe William Dortch was born in LA or, possibly MS, but not TN. I also believe that William's father, Robert Dortch was born in LA or NC. My Great-Grandfather, Victor Boardman Atkins, who was born in 1856 in Greensboro (Hale or Greene County), Alabama, had Atkins Wholesale Grocery in Selma, Dallas County, Alabama. Victor Atkins wife (my Great-Grandmother) was also named Mary Bethune Martin. She was the niece of Mary Bethune Martin who married Robert Dortch. Victor Atkins partner at Atkins Wholesale Grocery was a Mr. Dortch who was kin to Robert Dortch. It may have been known as Atkins/Dortch Wholesale Grocery at one time. I can't help but wonder if my Dortch family of Ouachita, LA ties in with the families of William Dortch who died 1801 in Feliciana and Nathan Dortch who died in 1809. As per an internet posting, Nathan Dortch came to Spanish Feliciana in the 1790's along with brothers William and John Dortch, all from South Carolina. (Note: I have found a Nathan Dortch family from VA and NC) Nathan DORTCH, b, 1760, d. 1809 in Feliciana, m. Elizabeth Carroll, and had children: Ann Bass DORTCH, Rachel CARTER DORTCH DAY, William E. DORTCH, Elizabeth C. DORTCH FOSTER, Nathaniel C. DORTCH. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Fredreica Speyer [email protected] PS. Does anyone know how to find access to these publications without actually going to one of the Repositories? Dortch House Hist. Notes, Nash Co., Nc Surname: Dortch Record Type: Volume: 3 Number: 3 (Summer 1999) Periodical Title: Connector Persi Code: NCCO Topics: North Carolina Issues Per Year: 4 ACPL Holdings: v.1n.1- 1996- ACPL Other Titles: Newsletter of the Tar River Connections Genealogy Society Repositories: Allen County Public Library Publisher: Tar River Connections Gen. Society Address: POB 8764: Rocky Mount, NC 27804 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Nathan Dortch Estate, 1810-12, Accts., La Surname: Dortch Record Type: Volume: 16 Number: 1 (January 1994) Periodical Title: Florida Parishes Genealogical Newsletter Persi Code: LAFL Topics: Louisiana, Mississippi Issues Per Year: 6 ISSN Number: ACPL Holdings: v.1-18 1979-96 ACPL Call Number: OPEN Notes: ceased Repositories: Allen County Public Library Publisher: Donna Burge Adams, editor Address: 1857 Stonewood Drive: Baton Rouge, LA 70816 Rachel Dortch Day, 1797-1863, La, Ms Surname: Dortch Record Type: Volume: 28 Number: 1 (March 1981) Periodical Title: Louisiana Genealogical Register Persi Code: LAGR Topics: Louisiana Issues Per Year: 4 ISSN Number: 0148-7655 ACPL Holdings: 1ser. v.1-3, 2ser. v.1- 1945-47, 54- ACPL Call Number: OPEN Notes: subject index 1954-75 Repositories: Allen County Public Library Family History Library New York Public Library Newberry Library State Historical Society of Wisconsin Library Dallas Public Library (partial holdings) Los Angeles Public Library (partial holdings) Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton Co. (partial holdings) Library of Congress (partial holdings) Atlanta-Fulton Public Library (partial holdings) Publisher: Louisiana Genealogical & Hist Soc Address: POB 82060: Baton Rouge, LA 70884-2060 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Dortch-Morse-Goodson-Fortson Bible, La Surname: Fortson Record Type: Volume: 26 Number: 4 (December 1979) Periodical Title: Louisiana Genealogical Register Persi Code: LAGR Topics: Louisiana Issues Per Year: 4 ISSN Number: 0148-7655 ACPL Holdings: 1ser. v.1-3, 2ser. v.1- 1945-47, 54- ACPL Call Number: OPEN Notes: subject index 1954-75 Repositories: Allen County Public Library Family History Library New York Public Library Newberry Library State Historical Society of Wisconsin Library Dallas Public Library (partial holdings) Los Angeles Public Library (partial holdings) Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton Co. (partial holdings) Library of Congress (partial holdings) Atlanta-Fulton Public Library (partial holdings) Publisher: Louisiana Genealogical & Hist Soc Address: POB 82060: Baton Rouge, LA 70884-2060 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Amanda Dortch-Alex Morse, M.1862, La Surname: Morse Record Type: Volume: 17 Number: 3 (May 1995) Periodical Title: Florida Parishes Genealogical Newsletter Persi Code: LAFL Topics: Louisiana, Mississippi Issues Per Year: 6 ISSN Number: ACPL Holdings: v.1-18 1979-96 ACPL Call Number: OPEN Notes: ceased Repositories: Allen County Public Library Publisher: Donna Burge Adams, editor Address: 1857 Stonewood Drive: Baton Rouge, LA 70816 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Mattie Dortch Wood Obit., 1913, Tn Surname: Wood Record Type: Volume: 21 Number: 11 (November 1913) Periodical Title: Confederate Veteran Persi Code: AMCV Topics: Civil War Issues Per Year: 6 ISSN Number: ACPL Holdings: v.1-40 1893-1932,new ser. v.35n.1- 1987- ACPL Call Number: 973.74 Aa1coa(b Notes: index open shelf "MIL";#d yrly '95- Repositories: Allen County Public Library Los Angeles Public Library Dallas Public Library Atlanta-Fulton Public Library Family History Library Library of Congress New York Public Library Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton Co. (partial holdings) Publisher: Confederate Veteran, SCV & MOSB Address: POB 710287: Houston, TX 77271-0287 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Dortch Cemetery, Benton Co., Tn Surname: Dortch Record Type: Volume: 10 Number: 2 (April 1978) Periodical Title: Family Findings Persi Code: TNFF Topics: Tennessee Issues Per Year: 4 ISSN Number: ACPL Holdings: v.1- 1969- ACPL Call Number: OPEN Repositories: Allen County Public Library State Historical Society of Wisconsin Library Dallas Public Library (partial holdings) Public Library of Cincinnati & Hamilton Co. (partial holdings) New York Public Library (partial holdings) Family History Library (partial holdings) Library of Congress (partial holdings) Los Angeles Public Library (partial holdings) Publisher: Mid-West Tennessee Genealogical Soc Address: POB 3343, Murray Station: Jackson, TN 38303-0343 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    11/24/2001 05:59:40
    1. [MSMARSHA-L] Martin, Tally, Pittman, Burton, Wafford/Wofford of Marshall Co., MS
    2. Paul & Fredreica Speyer

    3. Can anyone tell me anything about the following families: 1840 MARTIN JOHN B. Marshall County MS 025 Southern Division Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a1681216 1841 MARTIN JOHN B. Marshall County MS Southern Division MS 1841 State Census Index MSS4a1681215 1845 MARTIN JOHN B. Marshall County MS Southern Division MS 1845 State Census Index MSS4a1681214 1841 TALLY MARTIN Marshall County MS No Township Listed MS 1841 State Census Index MS42510495 1840 PITTMAN MARSHALL Marshall County MS 004 Southern Division Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a2066226 1840 PITTMAN MARSHALL Marshall County MS 4 Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a2066223 1840 PITTMAN MARSHALL Marshall County MS 4 Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a2066227 1841 PITTMAN MARSHALL Marshall County MS Southern Division MS 1841 State Census Index MSS4a2066225 1845 PITTMAN MARSHALL Marshall County MS Southern Division MS 1845 State Census Index MSS4a2066224 1841 WAFFORD JAMES Marshall County MS No Township Listed MS 1841 State Census Index MS42510607 1840 BURTON IRA Marshall County MS 056 Northern Division Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a387050 1840 BURTON IRA Marshall County MS 6 Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a387047 1840 BURTON IRA Marshall County MS 6 Federal Population Schedule MS 1840 Federal Census Index MSS4a387053 1841 BURTON IRA Marshall County MS Northern Division MS 1841 State Census Index MSS4a387049 1845 BURTON IRA Marshall County MS Northern Division MS 1845 State Census Index MSS4a387048 Notes for JOHN BETHUNE MARTIN: Letter dated October 25, 1848 To: Atlas Jones Martin Liberty Hill, AL From: John Bethune Martin Holly Springs, MS The letter mentions the following: > ...Alexander's health is not as good as when you left, he is often > troubled with difficulty of breathing, he will have to quit school I > feel...My crop of cotton will turn out better than I expected. I > should make 15 or 20 bales more than I expected when you left. Mary > Peters, alias Mrs. Wafford, is married to a Doctor Burton, formerly of > (illegible), Tennessee, a wild buxom fellow, they say. She tried an > old man first, now she will try a young one. I think she missed it and > (illegible) Dr. Pittman...Tally has sold his place. Will be off to > Texas this winter. ..I hope you succeed in getting a place for > Alexander. I think it will be the means of improving him. Arthur had > some chills after you left him. He is now well and careless as ever > but applies himself better to his books... Thanks so very much! Fredreica [email protected]

    11/28/2001 12:48:00