This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CKB.2ACI/375.677 Message Board Post: hi patchez. i'm bryan sanders. nathan was simeon's grandfather benjamin franklin sanders was elvira's father. i don't have any onfo on elvira. my email is btjansanders@juno.com if you would like to exchange some info. i am a descendant of benjamin's brother elias.