Thanks, Nancy. I had sent a query on Bushnell, Gordon, and Hagan, and got a few scattered bits of info, which really peaked my appetite, and truly appreciated those who took time to do some research for me. My Bushnells and Gordons came thru MS, thus my interest. Below is a response I sent to George Lewis, who suggested sources I might use to seek info in my search. I will re-post my message later. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethel Sacker" <paulsacker@centurytel.net> To: <GRlew@aol.com> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Bushnell, Gordon, Hagen > Thank you for your response. Those are the kinds of items I am looking for. > It is not feasible that I travel, so I depend on people and internet for my > research. > The Bushnells, Gordons, and Hagans intermarried, thus my interest. I am > brick-walled on my gr.grandfather Thomas Jefferson Gordon married Lucrettia > Bushnell(a descendant of Eusebius Bushnell). They married here in Louisiana. > I have them from then on. > We have a Gordon and a Bushnell Reunion each year in Fall. > Would you know if the books/microfilm you mentioned are available thru > inter-library loan? We have a nice library here in Kinder, LA > Sounds like you have done, and still do much research. I find it very > rewarding since my retirement. > Peace. Ethel >

Enough, already! Let it go! There is enough turmoil in the world as is. Neither one if you is proving anything; just creating dissention on this great website. Be nice, fellows. PEACE. Ethel (a new subscriber).

Liddell has done us all a disservice by keeping a peek at the past from us by "trashing" Mr. Mickell. Eddie, hang in there and don't let this get you down. CDS

Open letter to all subscribers. My apologies for airing dirty laundry. My complaint dealt only with the Jefferson County MSGenWeb site. I do not know why Mr. Mikell copied it to Attalla, Jefferson Davis, Lawrence, and Lincoln counties. Nor do I understand his withdrawal. Open letter in response to Mr. Mikell. Mikell >> I will have to say, Mr. Liddell's note has been shocking. I do not know, Bruce, if you are aware that everything I have transcribed has been released to the mailing list, some 1000 pages, so if you have the time, you could search the archives and find everything I have type there for the last seven years. The ONLY thing that I could not post was the pictures, which the mailing list will not handle mime type submissions. You have "decompiled" the material in order to make money. You started with a single collection of source material and deliberately broke it into many small fragments, each with instructions to purchase the whole from you. Do you know for certain that this business method is legal is all 50 states, Mr. Mikell? I am trained as an historian. 1000 pages do not impress me. Nor am I impressed by the many errors. Do you have a spell-checker, Mr. Mikell? Mikell >> I posted the material to alternate mailing groups, after first contacting the list administrator to make sure it was ok, in the hopes that someone could connect their relatives with others in nearby counties. If I wanted to receive material on another MS county, I would subscribe to that mailing list. Your Lawrence information was not appropriate for Jefferson. Did you explain to the volunteer list administrators that every message would include, at the top, the instructions "E-mail mikell@virginia.edu for purchasing information"? Mikell >> I do not sell Genealogy material, nor is this a business of mine. This seems to contradict your statement "E-mail mikell@virginia.edu for purchasing information" at the top of every transcription page, which I interpret as direct sales. Perhaps by Clintonian wordplay you "do not sell Genealogy material." But that seems to contradict your statement of 31-Jul-2003 "occasionals sales and the few dollars it brings in is sort of what keeps the project alive, as far as transcribing to the internet." Do you accept credit cards, Mr. Mikell? Mikell >> I compiled the material in one place as to make it easy for people to search. No, as mentioned above, you have "decompiled" the material to make it difficult to search, easy to buy. Mikell >> I have followed the mailing list for some time, and not to bring undue attention, but outside of the work that I have posted, I rarely, if ever, see any original material on any of the groups. Most of us prefer that the administrator post our stuff online, then include it in monthly "What's new" mailings, instead of filling every mailbox with our unwanted data. Mikell >> Good bye all. The material I have transcribed is still "out there", and you can find it if you surf. The rest of the some 400 pages of the Bethany Church Records will have to wait for some other sap to ruin his eyesight over ;-], and Mr. Liddell can finish the rest of the some 300 pages of the newspaper.. I do not understand this action. My complaint dealt only with the Jefferson County MSGenWeb site. I do not know why this should affect other counties. Nor do I understand why Mr. Mikell should withdraw from anything. As one alert subscriber pointed out, mine is the only public complaint. I wonder if Proverbs 28:1 applies here. Yes, I will be glad to transcribe the remaining Bethany and Lawrence newspaper records, and post the compilation on the Lawrence website. Please ship them prepaid to my snail-mail address below. When I'm done I'll ship them back to you at my expense. Please spell my name, address, and nine-digit ZIP correctly to avoid misdelivery. I will respond to each individual who has emailed me, but please give me time. Apparently a great many of you consider me a dirty dog. Bruce D. Liddell 828 Rockford Lane Birmingham AL 35209-3143 Voice mail 205/ 945-1681 Email BDLiddell@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

All: I will have to say, Mr. Liddell's note has been shocking. I do not know, Bruce, if you are aware that everything I have transcribed has been released to the mailing list, some 1000 pages, so if you have the time, you could search the archives and find everything I have type there for the last seven years. The ONLY thing that I could not post was the pictures, which the mailing list will not handle mime type submissions. I posted the material to alternate mailing groups, after first contacting the list administrator to make sure it was ok, in the hopes that someone could connect their relatives with others in nearby counties. I do not sell Genealogy material, nor is this a business of mine. I compiled the material in one place as to make it easy for people to search. I have followed the mailing list for some time, and not to bring undue attention, but outside of the work that I have posted, I rarely, if ever, see any original material on any of the groups. Good bye all. The material I have transcribed is still "out there", and you can find it if you surf. The rest of the some 400 pages of the Bethany Church Records will have to wait for some other sap to ruin his eyesight over ;-], and Mr. Liddell can finish the rest of the some 300 pages of the newspaper.. Eddie > Open letter to the MSJEFFER-L mailing list administrator. > > I agree 100% with your policy of "no advertising." In my opinion, Mr. Eddie Mikell is misusing the mailing list. To me, his frequent mailings look like nothing more than teasers for selling genealogy CDs. This is unsolicited commercial email, commonly called "spam." Mr. Mikell's statement that sales defray production costs confirms his business intentions. I fail to see the connection between Jefferson County, the focus of this website and home of my ancestors, and Lawrence County. Perhaps Mr. Mikell could set up his own website, as other businesses do. Alternatively, perhaps Mr. Mikell could submit his material for posting on the appropriate website without charge, as I and many others have done. > > You have my unqualified support in keeping commercial operations off the Jefferson County mailing list. > > Bruce D. Liddell > 828 Rockford Lane > Birmingham AL 35209-3143 > Voice mail 205/ 945-1681 > Email BDLiddell@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EJB.2ACE/555 Message Board Post: Open letter to the MSJEFFER-L mailing list administrator. I agree 100% with your policy of "no advertising." In my opinion, Mr. Eddie Mikell is misusing the mailing list. To me, his frequent mailings look like nothing more than teasers for selling genealogy CDs. This is unsolicited commercial email, commonly called "spam." Mr. Mikell's statement that sales defray production costs confirms his business intentions. I fail to see the connection between Jefferson County, the focus of this website and home of my ancestors, and Lawrence County. Perhaps Mr. Mikell could set up his own website, as other businesses do. Alternatively, perhaps Mr. Mikell could submit his material for posting on the appropriate website without charge, as I and many others have done. You have my unqualified support in keeping commercial operations off the Jefferson County mailing list. Bruce D. Liddell 828 Rockford Lane Birmingham AL 35209-3143 Voice mail 205/ 945-1681 Email BDLiddell@yahoo.com

Sounds like the list Administrator is a little jealous. My vote is to allow the newspaper to be published. Your articles are very popular, don't give up. John

Eddie, You are doing a tremendous favor to countless people by transcribing the early records of Lawrence Co. Please don't stop! The list administrator should rethink her position on this matter. Sharron

All: I am a little distressed over a recent "polite" note from one of the mailing list administrators, so that is the reason I have not sent out anything as of late. Seems the policy is that I cannot "advertise" and I understand that, so the reference to the E-bay note is not allowed. I do not mind, and want to follow policy, but occasionals sales and the few dollars it brings in is sort of what keeps the project alive, as far as transcribing to the internet.... Any suggestions, or comments are welcome at this point. Thanks for you understanding.. Eddie

I miss all your transcriptions Eddie! Jane -------Original Message------- From: MSJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:17:34 AM To: MSJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] Lawrence County Press, Bethany Baptist Church, and History of Lawrence County articles - I am distressed... All: I am a little distressed over a recent "polite" note from one of the mailing list administrators, so that is the reason I have not sent out anything as of late. Seems the policy is that I cannot "advertise" and I understand that, so the reference to the E-bay note is not allowed. I do not mind, and want to follow policy, but occasionals sales and the few dollars it brings in is sort of what keeps the project alive, as far as transcribing to the internet ... Any suggestions, or comments are welcome at this point. Thanks for you understanding.. Eddie ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" .

What's New July 31, 2003 - Added Buell Tavern (later known as Truly Tavern) - contributed by Charles Dawkins from a file he found in the MDAH WPA records for Jefferson County. Really interesting! Ann Researching Jefferson & Franklin County, MS I wasn't born in MS but I got here as quick as I could! The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first!

Hi folks, Just a note to announce that I am now the Warren County CC. The site became available and I jumped on it! There is so much history in Warren I was ashamed to see it so neglected! Please visit and let me have your comments, suggestions and CONTRIBUTIONS! http://www.rootsweb.com/~mswarren/ Ann Allen Geoghegan CC for Claiborne, Jefferson & Warren on the MSGenWeb Project Project CC for MS Families on the Internet CC for Franklin County AHGP I wasn't born in MS but I got here as quick as I could! The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Thompson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/EJB.2ACE/554 Message Board Post: Request any information on William Duncan Thompson and his wife "Lethie." He was a Confederate soldier, and lived in Jefferson Co. after the war. Would appreciate marriage record, wife's maiden name, residence location. I visited the location in 1955 and took a photo of the house, but don't recall where the house was located. Thanks.

William Thompson m. Lettie Johnson in Jefferson County, MS on 8 Oct 1888 based on information from Hunting for Bears.

Would anyone know where "12 Mile Swamp" was located in Spanish West Florida about 1799-1803? And is it still known as such, or changed names? I am trying to find out where it might be located today, or in that period. I found a copy of a Spanish Land Grant (Spanish West Florida)for Eusebius Bushnell--says he was in possession of 600 acres in 12 Mile Swamp in year 1803. Sure would appreciate help on this. Thank you. Ethel.

Have you seen Scott Buie's book, "From Scotland to North America, the Family Buie"? The synopsis that quite a few Buies left the Island of Jura (off the coast of Scotland) in the 1720 and landed in North Carolina. From there, the famlies have spread through Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. My ancestor Mary Jane Buie was born in Catahoula Parish, La. Eventually she arrived in Upshur County, Texas. Her third husband was A. Smith Kilgore. Their only offspring was Mary Alicia Kilgore who is my great grandmother. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <A1656@aol.com> To: <MSJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: New Scotland > I am interested in the Buie connection. Have Buie's in my husbands family. > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "May your brickwalls come tumblin' down!" > >

I am interested in the Buie connection. Have Buie's in my husbands family.

Thank you for your e-mail. I am out of the office on vacation until Monday August 4, 2003. I will be happy to respond at that time. Sincerely, Joy F. Buzzard Financial Administrator Diocese of Virginia (800) DIOCESE

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McIntyre, Buie Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.msn.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/EJB.2ACE/551.1.1 Message Board Post: You will find "History of the Scotch Settlement Jefferson County, Mississippi" at www.geocities.com/twincousin2334/ History_Scotch_Settlement.html This was published by the Mississippi Historical Society, 1906, Edited by Franklin L. Riley.

July 24, 2003 - Added the rest of the Fayette District and the Red Lick District to the 1832 Minutes of the Board of Supervisors Assignment of Road Overseers found and contributed by Sue B. Moore. These have been added to the ones contributed by Ann Brown. Also added Jurors of the Circuit Court, Jefferson County, September Term 1832 contributed by Sue B. Moore. Sue also sent in some Early Court Cases from when the county was still named Pickering! Ann Researching Jefferson & Franklin County, MS I wasn't born in MS but I got here as quick as I could! The things that come to those that wait may be the things left by those who got there first!