Does anyone know if the early 1800s session minutes are extant for Bethel? Jan

Can anyone tell me what "Beat One" refers too. My grandparents Ferdinand White and Hannah Walker White and their two sons, Ferdinand and George are listed in the Adams County census 1900 living there? I have thought that this was really closer to Jefferson County than Adams County. Any information is appreciated. Thank-you Debra White Hayes [email protected]

I hope all of you are transcribing the census correctly. I have seen some online that are NOT correct. PLEASE make sure you have "ss" and not "ff" (for example). Some of the records I have seen are not read correctly. Thanks, Mattie

thats why we have proof readers, I have made one correction to mine after it went online, from a family member, but it is up to the transcriber, to change it only if they want to do it, Thank goodness for Proof readers, they are a blessing At 08:46 PM 01/23/2001 EST, [email protected] wrote: >I hope all of you are transcribing the census correctly. I have seen some >online that are NOT correct. PLEASE make sure you have "ss" and not "ff" >(for example). Some of the records I have seen are not read correctly. >Thanks, Mattie > > >==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== >"Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > > God bless, Lynda

Thank you thank you so very much Lynda Lindsey transcriber of the 1850 copiah county ms, and now slowly working on the 1830/40 copiah county ms census At 06:27 PM 01/23/2001 -0600, Nancy Brister wrote: >Hi everyone, > Just wanted to let you know that the 1860 Jefferson County census is >on-line now at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_img.htm >Just scroll down to 'Mississippi' and after that to 'Jefferson Co.' > Please excuse the double notice if Rootsweb has sent a message >already. I don't think I've seen it, but I might have just missed it..... > Hope you all have as much luck as I did -- finally found my missing >Carmichaels! > Nancy Brister > > > > > > > >==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== >"Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > > God bless, Lynda

Hi everyone, Just wanted to let you know that the 1860 Jefferson County census is on-line now at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_img.htm Just scroll down to 'Mississippi' and after that to 'Jefferson Co.' Please excuse the double notice if Rootsweb has sent a message already. I don't think I've seen it, but I might have just missed it..... Hope you all have as much luck as I did -- finally found my missing Carmichaels! Nancy Brister

Whoops! Sorry list! It was Townsend Prentiss Bullen, JR. who was buried there last year! T.P. the III is alive and well! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: January 23, 2001 12:04 Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Jim, this helps a great deal. One of the Callender descendants that I'm > related to will be very interested > as she lives in Amite Co. I will look at atlas for now to see if I can get > a feel for it's location. > > Mary > > > > Mary, > > This is the cemetery you're looking for. I had tried to find it for > several > > years. My gggg-grandfather, George Foreman, is buried there. In June, > 1999, > > Ann Brown took me to it (I had been within a few hundred feet on earlier > > searches without finding it). The cemetery is located on Cannonsburg Road. > > This road runs from the Natchez Trace, just North of Mount Locust, to > > Cannonsburg on Highway 61. The cemetery is about Two miles from the Trace > > across from Bethlehem Church. Bethlehem Church's cemetery is visible from > > the road. Bethel Cemetery is in the woods behind it. On the USGS Church > Hill > > quadrangle Topo map It is marked "Bullen Cemetery". It's about 500 yards > > from the South Fork of Cole's Creek. > > I'm planning to go back there sometime in the next month, or so, to > > photograph. I'll also get GPS coordinates. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Dempsey > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem, leads to two more." > >

Mary, My husband's cousin, Townsend P. Bullen,III a former MS State Trooper, was buried in that cemetery last year. Threw his entire family for a loop when they read his request to be buried there as no one in the family had been buried there for quite some time! Needless to say his sons had to do a very quick cleanup to even prepare the burial site! It is very difficult to find! The funeral home had to have a relative lead the hearse! Ann Geoghegan ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: January 23, 2001 12:04 Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Jim, this helps a great deal. One of the Callender descendants that I'm > related to will be very interested > as she lives in Amite Co. I will look at atlas for now to see if I can get > a feel for it's location. > > Mary > > > > Mary, > > This is the cemetery you're looking for. I had tried to find it for > several > > years. My gggg-grandfather, George Foreman, is buried there. In June, > 1999, > > Ann Brown took me to it (I had been within a few hundred feet on earlier > > searches without finding it). The cemetery is located on Cannonsburg Road. > > This road runs from the Natchez Trace, just North of Mount Locust, to > > Cannonsburg on Highway 61. The cemetery is about Two miles from the Trace > > across from Bethlehem Church. Bethlehem Church's cemetery is visible from > > the road. Bethel Cemetery is in the woods behind it. On the USGS Church > Hill > > quadrangle Topo map It is marked "Bullen Cemetery". It's about 500 yards > > from the South Fork of Cole's Creek. > > I'm planning to go back there sometime in the next month, or so, to > > photograph. I'll also get GPS coordinates. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Dempsey > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem, leads to two more." > >

Jim ... when you come this way give me a phone call ... 786-8513. also, how's you Dad? Is he still in the Nursing Home. Ann BrownAnyone who wants to go to Bethel Cemetery ... the one that has provided so much MSJEFFER interest this past few days ... let me know. It is difficult to find ... but not impossible. Ann Brown

Jim I live in the neighborhood and would love to go with you when you go if you would like some company. Are you talking about the swinging bridge road ? The bridge is out on it, right ? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Dempsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Mary, > This is the cemetery you're looking for. I had tried to find it for several > years. My gggg-grandfather, George Foreman, is buried there. In June, 1999, > Ann Brown took me to it (I had been within a few hundred feet on earlier > searches without finding it). The cemetery is located on Cannonsburg Road. > This road runs from the Natchez Trace, just North of Mount Locust, to > Cannonsburg on Highway 61. The cemetery is about Two miles from the Trace > across from Bethlehem Church. Bethlehem Church's cemetery is visible from > the road. Bethel Cemetery is in the woods behind it. On the USGS Church Hill > quadrangle Topo map It is marked "Bullen Cemetery". It's about 500 yards > from the South Fork of Cole's Creek. > I'm planning to go back there sometime in the next month, or so, to > photograph. I'll also get GPS coordinates. > Hope this helps, > Jim Dempsey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "maryp" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:16 AM > Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > > > > Thank you very much. This sounds like the same church. Alexander > Callender > > was an elder from source > > I have with other trustees listed as Robt. Miller, Alexr. Montgomery, John > > Griffin, William Erwin, Jeremiah > > Coleman and John Boles. Witnesses to deed were Israel Coleman (brother in > > law to Alexander), George > > Forman, Samuel Davis. Date appears to be March 7, 1804, Certified May 25, > > 1805. > > > > Children listed for Alexander Callender and Mary Coleman (I have not > > documented myself) where: > > > > Stephen Callender-m. on 16 JAN 1806 to Elizabeth " Betsy" Simpson > > Esther Callender > > Lydia Callender-m. on 31 JAN 1806 to Gideon Gibson > > Ephraim Callender > > Charity Callender > > Alexander Callender Jr. > > > > > > Stephen Callender's son William Coleman Callender settled in Amite and his > > descendants married > > numerous times with Duck family to present day. > > > > I would appreciate if anyone shows the above in any cemetery records. > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > A reference that I found shows that "The first Presbyterian Church in > the > > > entire southeast was built in 1804 at the now extinct village of Union > > Town > > > on the Natchez Trace. It was called Bethel and was organized by > Reverend > > > Joseph Bullen, sent from the Presbyterian Mission Board of New York." > > > > > > Another reference that I found shows that Uniontown was located fifteen > > miles > > > east at Natchez (but in Jefferson County). Town listed as being extinct > > by > > > 1845. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Ruth Nevels > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "If at first you don't succeed, redefine success." > >

Okay Jeffersonians, correct me if I am wrong. 15 miles east of Natchez, wouldn't that be about Mount Locust on the Natchez Trace....we're gettin closer to my house here. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <MSJEFFER[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > A reference that I found shows that "The first Presbyterian Church in the > entire southeast was built in 1804 at the now extinct village of Union Town > on the Natchez Trace. It was called Bethel and was organized by Reverend > Joseph Bullen, sent from the Presbyterian Mission Board of New York." > > Another reference that I found shows that Uniontown was located fifteen miles > east at Natchez (but in Jefferson County). Town listed as being extinct by > 1845. > > Hope this helps. > > Ruth Nevels > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Boldly start in reverse, because that's the genealogy way." > >

Mary, This is the cemetery you're looking for. I had tried to find it for several years. My gggg-grandfather, George Foreman, is buried there. In June, 1999, Ann Brown took me to it (I had been within a few hundred feet on earlier searches without finding it). The cemetery is located on Cannonsburg Road. This road runs from the Natchez Trace, just North of Mount Locust, to Cannonsburg on Highway 61. The cemetery is about Two miles from the Trace across from Bethlehem Church. Bethlehem Church's cemetery is visible from the road. Bethel Cemetery is in the woods behind it. On the USGS Church Hill quadrangle Topo map It is marked "Bullen Cemetery". It's about 500 yards from the South Fork of Cole's Creek. I'm planning to go back there sometime in the next month, or so, to photograph. I'll also get GPS coordinates. Hope this helps, Jim Dempsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Thank you very much. This sounds like the same church. Alexander Callender > was an elder from source > I have with other trustees listed as Robt. Miller, Alexr. Montgomery, John > Griffin, William Erwin, Jeremiah > Coleman and John Boles. Witnesses to deed were Israel Coleman (brother in > law to Alexander), George > Forman, Samuel Davis. Date appears to be March 7, 1804, Certified May 25, > 1805. > > Children listed for Alexander Callender and Mary Coleman (I have not > documented myself) where: > > Stephen Callender-m. on 16 JAN 1806 to Elizabeth " Betsy" Simpson > Esther Callender > Lydia Callender-m. on 31 JAN 1806 to Gideon Gibson > Ephraim Callender > Charity Callender > Alexander Callender Jr. > > > Stephen Callender's son William Coleman Callender settled in Amite and his > descendants married > numerous times with Duck family to present day. > > I would appreciate if anyone shows the above in any cemetery records. > > Mary > > > > > > A reference that I found shows that "The first Presbyterian Church in the > > entire southeast was built in 1804 at the now extinct village of Union > Town > > on the Natchez Trace. It was called Bethel and was organized by Reverend > > Joseph Bullen, sent from the Presbyterian Mission Board of New York." > > > > Another reference that I found shows that Uniontown was located fifteen > miles > > east at Natchez (but in Jefferson County). Town listed as being extinct > by > > 1845. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Ruth Nevels > > > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" >

Jim, this helps a great deal. One of the Callender descendants that I'm related to will be very interested as she lives in Amite Co. I will look at atlas for now to see if I can get a feel for it's location. Mary > Mary, > This is the cemetery you're looking for. I had tried to find it for several > years. My gggg-grandfather, George Foreman, is buried there. In June, 1999, > Ann Brown took me to it (I had been within a few hundred feet on earlier > searches without finding it). The cemetery is located on Cannonsburg Road. > This road runs from the Natchez Trace, just North of Mount Locust, to > Cannonsburg on Highway 61. The cemetery is about Two miles from the Trace > across from Bethlehem Church. Bethlehem Church's cemetery is visible from > the road. Bethel Cemetery is in the woods behind it. On the USGS Church Hill > quadrangle Topo map It is marked "Bullen Cemetery". It's about 500 yards > from the South Fork of Cole's Creek. > I'm planning to go back there sometime in the next month, or so, to > photograph. I'll also get GPS coordinates. > Hope this helps, > Jim Dempsey > >

A reference that I found shows that "The first Presbyterian Church in the entire southeast was built in 1804 at the now extinct village of Union Town on the Natchez Trace. It was called Bethel and was organized by Reverend Joseph Bullen, sent from the Presbyterian Mission Board of New York." Another reference that I found shows that Uniontown was located fifteen miles east at Natchez (but in Jefferson County). Town listed as being extinct by 1845. Hope this helps. Ruth Nevels

Thank you very much. This sounds like the same church. Alexander Callender was an elder from source I have with other trustees listed as Robt. Miller, Alexr. Montgomery, John Griffin, William Erwin, Jeremiah Coleman and John Boles. Witnesses to deed were Israel Coleman (brother in law to Alexander), George Forman, Samuel Davis. Date appears to be March 7, 1804, Certified May 25, 1805. Children listed for Alexander Callender and Mary Coleman (I have not documented myself) where: Stephen Callender-m. on 16 JAN 1806 to Elizabeth " Betsy" Simpson Esther Callender Lydia Callender-m. on 31 JAN 1806 to Gideon Gibson Ephraim Callender Charity Callender Alexander Callender Jr. Stephen Callender's son William Coleman Callender settled in Amite and his descendants married numerous times with Duck family to present day. I would appreciate if anyone shows the above in any cemetery records. Mary > A reference that I found shows that "The first Presbyterian Church in the > entire southeast was built in 1804 at the now extinct village of Union Town > on the Natchez Trace. It was called Bethel and was organized by Reverend > Joseph Bullen, sent from the Presbyterian Mission Board of New York." > > Another reference that I found shows that Uniontown was located fifteen miles > east at Natchez (but in Jefferson County). Town listed as being extinct by > 1845. > > Hope this helps. > > Ruth Nevels > > >

Ann Brown's excellent Jefferson County Cemeteries, Etc...Vol I shows a Bethel Church Cemetery in Jefferson County, MS at Section 53-T9N-R2E. Could this be what your looking for?

Mary I could not find the cemetery, let me know when you get more info and I will try again Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Steve, I have two dates that may be of assistance. Rev. J.R. Hutchison, > D.D. Professor at Oakland College, > Clairborne, Mississippi in work titled "Reminiscenses" published in 1874 > describes the following. > > "on the southern bank of Coles Creek, in sight of the road from Port Gibson > to Natchez, in cluster of beautiful > trees, now lost to decay, but the graveyard is preserved, with gravestones > engraved with precious names which are doubtless written in the Book of > Life, the founders of Southern Presbyterian." > > 4 JUNE 1803 Alexander Callender donated the land for what apparently was > first Presbyterian Church in this > region. The Callender family later married into my lines in Amite Co. and > my ancestor William Fairbanks was > also an early Presbyterian in this area. > > Thank you for your help. I will write to Presbyterian Historical Society > this week to see if they can add anymore > on this early church. > > Mary > > Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > > > > Mary I find only one Cem. on my topographic maps on the banks of Coles > > Creek. To determine where this particular road is give me a date I can go > > by. I am familiar with the area and live close to it and I know there are > > several roads this could be talking about. The Cem. I found is on the > North > > bank of Coles Creek on the Natchez Trace, which I believe is going to be > the > > road they are talking about, but it was and still is very well known and I > > have to wonder why they called it the Port Gibson to Natchez road instead > of > > the Trace. I have to go right by it tomorrow and if I can get to it I will > > stop. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > List, I'm would like to learn more about the Presbyterian meeting house > > that was also known at the Bethel Meeting House. I have the > > > information taken out of "The History of the Descendants of the Jersey > > Settlers, Adams County Mississippi" which covers the deed of > > > Alexander Callender to trustees of Bethel Congregation. > > > > > > There was a cemetery there with location described as "on southern bank > of > > Coles Creek, in sight of the road from Port Gibson to Natchez". Does > > anyone know where this cemetery is and if so it's condition. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > > "A question suppressed my be an ancestor lost." > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > > > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "A day without genealogy is like a day without coffee." > >

Thank you Steve. It was kind of you to try. I will write to Presbyterians at Montreat, NC tomorrow. I may try Chamberlain Hunt as well. Mary > Mary I could not find the cemetery, let me know when you get more info and I > will try again > Steve > House > > >

Nothing on the Lick family, but do you know anything about the Higdon's of Franklin, Jefferson, and Adams Counties?

Steve, I have two dates that may be of assistance. Rev. J.R. Hutchison, D.D. Professor at Oakland College, Clairborne, Mississippi in work titled "Reminiscenses" published in 1874 describes the following. "on the southern bank of Coles Creek, in sight of the road from Port Gibson to Natchez, in cluster of beautiful trees, now lost to decay, but the graveyard is preserved, with gravestones engraved with precious names which are doubtless written in the Book of Life, the founders of Southern Presbyterian." 4 JUNE 1803 Alexander Callender donated the land for what apparently was first Presbyterian Church in this region. The Callender family later married into my lines in Amite Co. and my ancestor William Fairbanks was also an early Presbyterian in this area. Thank you for your help. I will write to Presbyterian Historical Society this week to see if they can add anymore on this early church. Mary Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Bethel Meeting House > Mary I find only one Cem. on my topographic maps on the banks of Coles > Creek. To determine where this particular road is give me a date I can go > by. I am familiar with the area and live close to it and I know there are > several roads this could be talking about. The Cem. I found is on the North > bank of Coles Creek on the Natchez Trace, which I believe is going to be the > road they are talking about, but it was and still is very well known and I > have to wonder why they called it the Port Gibson to Natchez road instead of > the Trace. I have to go right by it tomorrow and if I can get to it I will > stop. > Steve > ----- Original Message ----- > > > List, I'm would like to learn more about the Presbyterian meeting house > that was also known at the Bethel Meeting House. I have the > > information taken out of "The History of the Descendants of the Jersey > Settlers, Adams County Mississippi" which covers the deed of > > Alexander Callender to trustees of Bethel Congregation. > > > > There was a cemetery there with location described as "on southern bank of > Coles Creek, in sight of the road from Port Gibson to Natchez". Does > anyone know where this cemetery is and if so it's condition. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Mary > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > "A question suppressed my be an ancestor lost." > > > > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > > >