Thanks for your help. Nothing is familiar, but I will keep. You never know when it will all fit together. >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: CENSUS (BILL) >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 10:52:43 EST > >I have William Hall (are 60) found in 1850 in Franklin County. He was born >in >North Carolina. With him are his sons Joseph (age 19), Leonidas (age 14) >and >Ira (male age 10). >I have not found them in 1860. Leonidas was married in 1867 to Frances >Melvina Smith Graham. >In 1880 Leonidas is found in Hamburg. It is reported that his father was >born >in North Carolina and his mother was born in Tennessee. >In 1900 Leonidas in still in Franklin County. It is reported on the census >that both of his parents were born in Tennessee. >Leonidas died and was buried in Mt. Carmel in 1910. Other Halls in Mt. >Carmel >were H. C. Hall (9-22-1829/10-7-1897), Harvey Otis (3-23-1895/8-301956), M >Gertrude Stevens w/o Harvey (10-16-1898), Wm. Otis (1-24-1917/1-7-1979), >Luther H (9-11-1935/9-15-1935), Robert R son of Leonidas and Frances >(1873/1946), May F. Buffkin w/o Robert (1875/1909), William N >(11-31865/511-1906) and Ida E Graham w/o William (3-15-1865/6-23-1947). >Children of Leonidas and Frances were Eustatia (male), Ada, and Robert >Ransom. >Leonidas' wife Frances had first been married to Dewitt C. Graham. Their >children were Ada, Mary D., Claiborne C., Dewitt, and Ida. > >I give all of this information in case something is familiar. > > >==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== >"Happiness is a genealogist who just found their lost ancestor." > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I have William Hall (are 60) found in 1850 in Franklin County. He was born in North Carolina. With him are his sons Joseph (age 19), Leonidas (age 14) and Ira (male age 10). I have not found them in 1860. Leonidas was married in 1867 to Frances Melvina Smith Graham. In 1880 Leonidas is found in Hamburg. It is reported that his father was born in North Carolina and his mother was born in Tennessee. In 1900 Leonidas in still in Franklin County. It is reported on the census that both of his parents were born in Tennessee. Leonidas died and was buried in Mt. Carmel in 1910. Other Halls in Mt. Carmel were H. C. Hall (9-22-1829/10-7-1897), Harvey Otis (3-23-1895/8-301956), M Gertrude Stevens w/o Harvey (10-16-1898), Wm. Otis (1-24-1917/1-7-1979), Luther H (9-11-1935/9-15-1935), Robert R son of Leonidas and Frances (1873/1946), May F. Buffkin w/o Robert (1875/1909), William N (11-31865/511-1906) and Ida E Graham w/o William (3-15-1865/6-23-1947). Children of Leonidas and Frances were Eustatia (male), Ada, and Robert Ransom. Leonidas' wife Frances had first been married to Dewitt C. Graham. Their children were Ada, Mary D., Claiborne C., Dewitt, and Ida. I give all of this information in case something is familiar.

Thanks for the obit .... Ann

Diane, Were any of the Hall's you mentioned below born in Tennessee? I'm looking for my gggrandfather (don't have a given name) born in TN and married a women born in MS. Had to have happened before 1850. My ggrandfather, George B. Hall was born in MS in Jan. of 1851. I have an Ira Hall (female) the daughter of Lenora Hall living in Franklin Co. with the Wentworth family in the 1870 census. Lenora is listed as a sister-in-law (Ira as a neice) on the 1880 Jefferson Co. census. Ira is listed in the MS marriages, marrying a B. A. Hyman in 1891 in Claiborne Co. Thanks >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: CENSUS (BILL) >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:54:30 EST > >Nancy, > If you have the Jefferson County Cemetery books would it be possible to >look up William Hall. I know he lived in the Franklin County area in 1850 >but >his son L. R. had a lot of connections to Jefferson County. He also had >two >other sons Ira and Joseph. >William was born around 1790. Ira was born about 1840 and Joseph about >1831. >I know where L. R. is but I haven't been able to go any further back on >his >father William. > >Thank you, >Diane Hall > > >==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== >"Every time I think I know where they are, they move." > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Merry, In 1850: Absalom TREVILLION, 26, planter, real estate value $560, b. MS; Isabella, 20, b. MS; S. M. 2 (male), b. MS; Hiram, 6 mos. In 1840: T. S. TRAVILLION; of 10, under 15, 1 male; of 15, under 20, 1 male; of 60, under 70, 1 male In 1830: States TRIVILLION; under 5, 1 male; of 10, under 15, 1 male; of 15, under 20, 3 males; of 50, under 60, 1 male Nancy

Mary, (CALLENDAR is spelled with one 'L' in the census.) In 1850: James S. CALENDAR, 33, planter, real estate value $4,100, b. LA; Sarah, 40, b. MS; children b. MS: Stephen (?), 10 A. A., 8 (female) Mary, 4 ___can't read first name, middle initial 'V', 2 (female) James is the only Calender listed in 1850. Nancy

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/447 Surname: Trevillion, Floyd, McCaa ------------------------- E-mail me at [email protected] Lets talk. Merry

Nancy, If you have the Jefferson County Cemetery books would it be possible to look up William Hall. I know he lived in the Franklin County area in 1850 but his son L. R. had a lot of connections to Jefferson County. He also had two other sons Ira and Joseph. William was born around 1790. Ira was born about 1840 and Joseph about 1831. I know where L. R. is but I haven't been able to go any further back on his father William. Thank you, Diane Hall

The Map for John Hall is the abbreviation for Massachusetts. In old script the double s looks like a p. Diane Hall

Diane, I'm sorry, there's no Wm. There's a Joseph in the Rodney Cemetery, but the dates aren't right: Joseph HALL, died at 28 years, 9/5/1840 I hope you track him down. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: CENSUS (BILL) > Nancy, > If you have the Jefferson County Cemetery books would it be possible to > look up William Hall. I know he lived in the Franklin County area in 1850 but > his son L. R. had a lot of connections to Jefferson County. He also had two > other sons Ira and Joseph. > William was born around 1790. Ira was born about 1840 and Joseph about 1831. > I know where L. R. is but I haven't been able to go any further back on his > father William. > > Thank you, > Diane Hall > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Every time I think I know where they are, they move." > >

Diane, Thank you!!! I knew I was missing something, but I just couldn't see it. I'm teaching myself (I don't have a very good teacher!) how to decipher old handwriting by searching for the same letter on a name or word I know. Most of the time I manage fairly well, but sometimes I run into something I just can't get......maybe I should invest in a book of instruction? Because I hate mysteries that don't end in a solution! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: CENSUS (BILL) > The Map for John Hall is the abbreviation for Massachusetts. In old script > the double s looks like a p. > > Diane Hall > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "A question suppressed my be an ancestor lost." > >

Bill, In 1850: John HALL, 51, overseer, b. VA, living in household of B. B. ELLIS John C. HALL, 26, carriage trimmer.....Bill, the place of his birth is a mystery, most of the time the problem is that the copy is dark or faded, making it difficult to read, but in this case, it's clear....I just don't know what it means! It (to me, anyway) very clearly reads 'Map'.....do you have any idea what this might be? Also, I believe he was probably living in something like a boarding house. He is listed in the household of a DAVENPORT, whose occupation is listed as 'landlord.' The household is made up of several different family names, from different states, even different countries. And most are men w/o families, as John HALL was. Elias HALL, 35, teacher, b. NC, living in the household of BALDWIN (page 91) In 1840: John HALL, of 30 and under 40 yrs., no other members of household I've enlisted the help of my husband, son and my next door neighbor, because that 'Map' thing has made me so curious! But they all agree it looks like Map. I wish you'd let me know if you ever find out what it is..... Do you have Ann Brown's "Jeff. Co., MS Cemeteries, Etc." books? Let me know if you don't, there are a lot of Halls in both volumes. Hope this helps. Nancy

Mona, In 1850: James McDONALD, 50, planter, real estate valued $900, b. NC; Ellen McDonald, 40, b. SC; all children b. MS: Geo., 22, planter; Andrew, 21, planter; James, 20, planter; Carolina, 17; Elizabeth, 15; Robert, 14; Clarion, 12; Fred (?), 8 In 1840: James McDonald; of ten, under 15, 1 male; of 15, under 20, 2 males; of 20, under 30, 2 males; of 30, under 40, 1 male; of 50, under 60, 1 male; of 70, under 80, 1 male; under 5, 1 female; of 5, under ten, 2 females; of 30, under 40, 1 female In 1830: James McDonald; under 5, 3 males; of 5, under ten, 1 male; of 20, under 30, 2 males; of 20, under 30, 1 female; of 40, under 50, 1 female Not in 1820 census. By the way, Mona, James McDonald and my g-g-grandfather, Isaac Garrett, were neighbors! Nancy

Dorothy, In 1830: Edmund DUGGAN; members of household: of 10, under 15, 1 male; of 15, under 20, 1 male; of 40, under 50, 1 male; of 60, under 70, 1 male In 1820: Edmund DUGGAN (Dorothy, this is a pretty clear page & household numbers are listed for other entries on the page, but there are no numbers listed for Edmund DUGGAN.) Nancy >

Merry, In 1840: Elisha (?) McCAA, can't read most of the household numbers but there is a male, of 10 and under 15 who could fit Albert, also Elisha, as shown in the 1850 census below, is the right age..... David is the only other McCAA in 1840, and the only male child in household is under 5...... In 1850: (Merry, the 1850 listings are all spelled 'McCAD' in the index, but it may have just been a transcription error, because the handwriting looks like 'McCAA' to me in the entries.) A. McCAA, 20, planter, b. MS; Martha McCAA, 20, b. MS; male, 25, w/unreadable different name, laborer Elisha (?) McCAA, 47, planter, b. SC Nancy, 46, b. MS Sarah, 23 (all children born in MS) Sam, 15 Rebecca, 13 Isaac, 12 Candes, 10 John, 8 Charles, 6 David, 4 Elizabeth 2 In 1850: Thomas CATER, 43, planter, b. SC; Nancy, 42, b. GA Thomas, 17 (all children born in MS) Sinor (?), 12 (female) Sylvester, 7 Mary A., 4 ? , 2 (male) James, 22, laborer ? , 20 (female) In 1840: William CATER No CATERS in 1820 or 1830. Merry, don't know why Thomas CATER doesn't show up in 1830 or1840. Wm. is the only listing for CATER in 1840 (unless there's an additional CATER on the same page that is illegible, but it's a fairly clear page). And no CATERS in the index for 1820 or 1830. Another one of those genealogical mysteries to unravel! Nancy

Peggy, I don't see Benjamin in any of the records. They are indexed, & I found the Allen on each page that was listed in the index but, since some pages are difficult to read, there's a possibility that there may be two Allens on one page and I can only see one. (Just to let you know that there's still a chance he might be there somewhere....) Spelling for each entry is "Allen." 1850 was the first time they listed individual names in the census. In 1840: Thomas ALLEN; in household: ages 10-15, 2 males; under 5, 1 female; 5-10, 1 female; 30-40, 1 female (Interesting it's listed under 'Thomas' but shows no adult males in the home. ALLEN, first name is unreadable, but the first letter is not a 'B', & middle initial is 'E', can't read household members. In 1850: In the home of James WOOD: Mary ALLEN, 60, b. MD Eliza ALLEN, 79, b. MD; Mary ALLEN, 59, b. MD; also several DIXONS in home, all b. MD None in 1820 or 1830. Couldn't find Benjamin, but maybe there's a clue in here somewhere! Nancy

Ann, In 1850: W. M. BULLIN, 32, planter, real estate valued at $5,000, b. MS Jane C., 21, b. MS Sam D., 7 mos., b. MS W.C. COFFEY, 28, overseer, b. KY Thomas COATS, 32, carpenter, b. NY Wm. STRONG, 35, carpenter, b. NY In 1840: Daniel BULLEN David BULLEN In 1830: David BULLEN Samuel BULLEN In 1820: David BULLEN Do you think they were in the process of building their home in 1850? That would explain the 2 carpenters from New York! Nancy

Sally, You win for number of ways a name can be spelled! Now you can add all these variations to your searches.......(1850 was the first year to have individual names and places of birth.) In 1830: John CLAWSON Isaac CLAWSON In 1840: John CLOSSON Richard (?) CL)OSSON In 1850: A. CLAUSON; 40, planter, b. MS Sarah, 35, b. MS Catherine, 6, b. MS M., 5 (male), b. MS E., 2 (female), b. MS In 1820: a BURNS, starts with 'E', ends with 'Y' In 1830: John BURNS; with members of household: of 5, under 10: 1 male; of 10, under 15, 2 males; of 15, under 20, 1 male; of 40, under 50, 1 male; under 5, 1 female; of 5, under 10, 2 femles; of 10, under 15, 1 female; of 15, under 20, 1 female; of 40, under 50, 1 female In 1840: John BURNES (can't read household numbers) No BURNS in 1850 In 1820: James KELLY (can't read household numbers) In 1830: James KELLY; with members of household: under 5, 1 male; of 10, under 15, 1 male; of 15, under 20, 1 male, of 40, under 50, 1 male; under 5, 2 females; of 5, under 10, 1 female; of 10, under 15, 1 female; of 30, under 40, 1 female also listed, a Wm. KELLY & a Henry KELLY In 1840: Jonathan KELLY Middleton KELLY Abram KELLY In 1850: Middleton KELLY, planter, b. SC Wm. KELLY; planter, b. MS Hope this helps. Nancy

Hi everybody, I now have the 1820-30-40-50 Census records for Jeff. Co. and I'd be happy to do look-ups. The 1850 is a nice clean copy, but there are some pages in the 1820-1840 book that are a little difficult to read, so I might not be able to decipher every name from those records. But I can give it my best try! Nancy Brister

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/446 Surname: ------------------------- Arthur, The names you're looking for are Jane, James and David. You might want to check out the 1860 Jefferson County Census on-line at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/cen_img.htm It's a nice clear copy.