Steve .. You need to come out and visit with Johnnie Harold Smith ... he would know the answer to that I feel sure...He isn't on-line. Ann Brown
Thanks George and God bless. Steve Hill Natchez, Ms. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] Re: Patterson > The only marriage of a Catherine to a Patterson on CD-ROM #5 was: > > John Patterson married Catherine Bisland in Adams Co. on 18 July, 1822. > > George R. Lewis > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "I only work on genealogy on days that end in 'Y'." > >
Ann Hope you are well. I need to come out and am planning to soon, I have some Humphreys paper I think you both will want. See you soon. Steve Steve Hill Natchez, Ms. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Patterson > Steve .. > You need to come out and visit with Johnnie Harold Smith ... he would know > the answer to that I feel sure...He isn't on-line. > Ann Brown > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Happiness is a genealogist who just found their lost ancestor." > >
I received this on my Hill list at rootsweb thought I would pass it on, I have no personal knowledge of these people. [email protected] I took a minute out of our volunteer typing time to check this site out. http://www.familydiscovery.com/ It is a fraudulent site because a membership gives you links to our free sites. You do not have to pay to get to any site in USGenWeb Right here, there is no charge to get to all the counties in USGenWeb. We are all hardworking volunteers to have genealogy information free for researchers. I have found links to our Macoupin civil war rosters, censuses, which we spent many hours of volunteer time now to have unknowing researchers pay a membership to click on a link to view our work. Macoupin County ILGenWeb volunteers have put over 1400 pages of free information and continuing to work to get more pages up. If any person finds our complete work in their membership, please notify me. Please pass this information onto any list. Let's try to keep these ripoffs from making their pile of money from our volunteer work. Please pass this onto any list you might be on. Hopefully, this site will be removed soon if not sooner. Thanks for listening. Gloria Steve Hill Natchez, Ms. [email protected]
The only marriage of a Catherine to a Patterson on CD-ROM #5 was: John Patterson married Catherine Bisland in Adams Co. on 18 July, 1822. George R. Lewis
Does anyone have any knowledge of a Catherine ??? that married a Patterson. She is shown in the 1860 Jefferson County Census living in the house of Uriah Humphreys and is 57 years of age possibly the mother of Sarah E. Patterson. Thanks Steve Hill Natchez, Ms. [email protected]
Carolyn, I read with great interest your description of the trail from the Pee Dee area of NC/SC to the Holston River in TN, the Tennessee, Ohio, and Mississippi River to Cole's Creek (http://www.rootsweb.com/~msjeffer/trails.htm). Passports of Southeastern Pioneers, 1770-1823, p. 315, shows that the man I think is my ancestor, James Nevels, along with Humphrey Beardin, Francis Jones, Mark Rector, Rodrick McAulay, William Huff, William Brown, two women and three chilren, obtained a passport 18 March 1798 to descend the rivers Holston and Tennessee as low as the Mouth of the Clinch River. On a 1799 oath of allegiance in the Natchez District, James Nevels and Humphrey Beardin were listed next to each other and with many other Cole's Creek residents (reprint from National Genealogical Society Quarterly 1957, "Special Aids to Gen. Research on Southern Families," p. 99, "Lists of Persons Taking the Oaths of Allegiance in the Natchez District, 1798-99;" p. 105, Will Ferguson's List includes the names of those who lived in the Cole's Creek area) Do you know where I might find the original or a photocopy of the original list of signers of the 1798 oaths of allegiance? I found the microfilm copy of above Holston River passport in the TN State Archives, and was surprised to see that the back of the passport has what appears to be the signatures of the men listed on the passport. I would like to compare James Nevels' and Humphrey Beaden's signatures to those of the two men of the same names who signed the Natchez oaths. According to the 1880 census information of James' son, James Nevels was from South Carolina, but I have not been able to link him to a family in SC yet. I have studied the Nevill group in the Greenville, SC area, the Neavil/Nevil group in the Pee Dee area, and the Nevils group in Barnwell Co., SC. However, some of the names on the passport with James Nevels seem to indicate a link to Granville Co., NC where a Nevill group also lived. Can anyone shed light on any of the names in the above passport? Jan Nevels Faulkner
Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10453 Surname: BEILLER, BOSWORTH ------------------------- Looking for information on Beiller's Landing after finding a marriage record for one of my BOSWORTH ancestors to Elizabeth BEILLER in Jefferson County in 1834. Eliz's mother was Nancy - who was her father? Help appreciated!
Hi Ann, Thanks for all the time, money and assistance that you devote to Jefferson Co. Let us know what we who live quite a distance away help you. If everyone would send you just $5.00 it would help a little. Please let us know what your expense is to keep our lines going and finding where they are buried, also have the people interested to join the Jeff. Co. genealogical group. I have enjoyed getting my news letter from you all. looking forward to the next letter. Thanks for keeping us all informed. Janette Freeman Hauck related to the Freemans, Stephens, Sims, Dunbars, Spencers of Jeff. Co.
Ann..........I cannot believe all this is still going on. Since I had not heard you mention it in so long, or read anything in the Port Gibson newspaper, I figured the stones were back up. How tolerant you have been!!! And those poor deceased people who no longer have a marker over their final resting place. May they all haunt him in nightly dreams until he does as the court has ordered him! What can we who live away from the area do to help you in this? Joyce
Continued .... tell me when you have had enuf of this story ! On 17 May 1995, I was served with an affidavit that"Ann Brown did willfully and unlawfully trespass upon the real property of Gregory and Janice Reed at Hwy 61 North. I was instructed to appear in Justice Court on May 25, 1995 at 4 PM. Both cases were heard on the 25th. The trespassing charge against me was dismissed. JUdge Wendell Williams ordered Gregory Reed to pay the maximum fine of $500. and return stones after having them reconstructed by a monument company and place in locations as requested. He was given 90 days to take care of the matter or 1 yr in jail. About the 89th day we were notified to view the stones... they were little 15 x 18 stones that lay flat on the ground. We would NOT accept them. So back to square One ... take him back to court. We understood that it was not unreasonable to expect the stones to be replicas of the original both in style and size. We went back to court ...we were instructed to go down and choose the monuments which were appropriate ... and Gregory Redd was instucted to pay for them. We again appealed to have the stones replaced at the original site,. If the gravestoneswere not replaced there, it was still a cemetery and could NOT be desecrated again. He could cut the grass, plant flowers... but he better not build on it or put his tennis court there. (as the bull dozer operator said that he wanted to do). I watch this closely. NOW comes the second part of the story. Greggory Reed choose Gibson Monument Co of Natchez to do the work ... that compnay was in all sorts of law suits about accepting money and not coming through with the stones..... We still do not have the completed gravestones.... and we want them on the cmemtery where they belong. I want to take him back to court ... this time civil court to establish that that is the proper place for the gravestones. I need a good lawyer who would like to establish that this is the right thing to do. I have talked to someone over in the eastern part of the state ... it sounds promising. If you have any questions concerning this travesty of justice... please let me know. Ann Brown ... Rt 2, Box 235, Lorman, MS 39096.
Hello to all who commented on the desecration of the old cemetery in which Whitfield Brown and his son, George, were buried as well as many other who died during the 1853 yellow fever epidemic. This was my lesson as to the importance of documentation and taking rubbings of the tombstones. This cemetery was located in Sec 27, T10N, R2E, about 100 yards onthe north side of Hwy 61 in an open field. There was a clump of trees and was visible from the road. The cemetery was without a known name and it had been designated as the Brasfield Cemetery as it was on the Brasfield property. Mrs. Ruby Brasfield directed my husband, Jimmie, and I to this cemetery and she refered to it as the Yellow Fever Cemetery. The archives at Millsaps college indicated that there were many death in the Cane Ridge Methodist Church congregation from yellow fever in 1853. The burials took place without church services .. usually at night. The survivors held a memorial service in the winter of that year and recognized "the uncertainity of life". Buried in the cemetery were Edward Wallace 15 May 1811 - 12 Sep 1853 He was married to Rebecca McDonald. 12 Feb 1810 - 20 Apr 1889 Their daughter, Lea 16 Nov 18652 - 19 May 1853. Samuel Caldwell 23 Jun 1852 - 01 Sep 1853 Elder W.H. Taylor 22 Sep 1810 to 28 Apr 1862 He was the Pastor of the Fellowship Baptist Church Whitfield Brown (born in S.C.) 3 Sep 1803 - 24 Sep 1853 George W. Brown 29 Jul 1833 - 24 Sep 1853, There were many sunken areas indicsated unmarked graves When we first saw the cemetery, there were many other tombstones in it. However, soy bean farmers cultivated around the cemetery for years and each time some stones would be lost. Catherine Kelly, wife of Whitfield, was buried there .. her stone had been missing for years. Mrs. Brasfield was aware that I was interested in genealogy .. and she knew that some Browns were buried in that cemetery. Mrs. Brasfield's mother was married to Louis Lehmann Brown, son of James Kelly Brown, a grandson of Whitfield Brown. Over the years from 1970, when Jimmie and I first discovered the cemetery, we would go on a yearly basis in the winter to clean around the gravestones. Over the years we have led numerous people to the site. The cemetery had been recorded many times by folks for the purpose of their genealogical research. During March 1995, we were aware of activity near the cemetery site and thought it rather eary for planters however were not alarmed.. Although we never saw any of the actual bulldozing taking place, we observed from time to time as we went north from Lorman on Hwy 61, that the cemetery appeared intact and undisturbed. After a period of time we notice that the bulldozer was gone and we were under the impression that the land moving was completed and rejoiced that the cemetery was undisturbed. It still remained under the oak tree on the knoll. On Thursday, 4 May 1995, we noticed a different bulldozer parked between the cemetery and hwy 61, The knoll and oak tree were visible at that time. On Sunday, 7 May 1995, when we went ot Port Gibson, we were astonished to see that the oak tree and the knoll was gone ! ! ! We drove into the area next to where the cemetery had been and were astonished !!! The ground was 'flat as a flitter' and all of the gravestones were gone, also. When we got home, I informed the Sheriff of the desecration and told him that we wished to press charged against whomever was responsible for this sensiless act. After some sleuthing, I found out that Gregory Reed was the owner and had requested the first bulldozer operator to "push the cmemtery down the hill"/ He refused to do so and was promptly fired. The bull dozer operator, Ernest Patton, said the gravestones were on theknoll at the time he left the site. Apparently, Gregory Reed destroyed the gravestones .. and then hired another bulldozer company, Dozer Inc from Natchez, to complete the job. The foreman said there weren't any tombstones on the site when he moved there ... just some old stone building rubble. I suspect that the tombstone became that building rubble. I contacted Gregory Reed and asked him what happened to the cemetery .. the answer was "what cemetery?" . I told him that I wanted the stones and would place them in our cemetery .... that I didn't want to give him any trouble but .... and he interrupted and said "LADY, YOU CAN'T GIVE ME ANY TROUBLE!" and slammed the phone down. Let me tell you .. a red flag waved!!!! I contacted Elbert Hilliard , Mississippi Archives and History, Jackson and informed of this desecration ... contacted the Attorney General's office ...then a lawyer friend to find the appropriate way to handle this matter. It was to file a judgement against Gregrory Reed through Mississippi Code 97-29-25. We understand that to move a cemetery the removal and relocation of the remains as well as the gravestones is required by law, however, we would have been satisfied to relocate the gravestones... We wanted to put Grandpa Brown and Uncle George's stone in the Brown plot in Beech Hill Cemetery. Edward Wallace was the one who donated the land to the Cane Ridge Methodist Church for their cmemteyr .. we felt that it would have been proper that the gravestones of his daughter, wife and him be relocated to the Cane Ridge Cemetery. We would have placed Elder Taylor's and Samuel Caldwell's there also Continued in Part 2
Ann, I'm sure there are many people on the list who would like to help in any way they could. Please let us know if there's anything we can do. All your efforts are appreciated more than you can know. Nancy Brister ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:34 AM Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] Cemetery desecration Part 1 > Hello to all who commented on the desecration of the old cemetery in which > Whitfield Brown and his son, George, were buried as well as many other who > died during the 1853 yellow fever epidemic. This was my lesson as to the > importance of documentation and taking rubbings of the tombstones. > > This cemetery was located in Sec 27, T10N, R2E, about 100 yards onthe north > side of Hwy 61 in an open field. There was a clump of trees and was visible > from the road. The cemetery was without a known name and it had been > designated as the Brasfield Cemetery as it was on the Brasfield property. > > Mrs. Ruby Brasfield directed my husband, Jimmie, and I to this cemetery and > she refered to it as the Yellow Fever Cemetery. The archives at Millsaps > college indicated that there were many death in the Cane Ridge Methodist > Church congregation from yellow fever in 1853. The burials took place > without church services .. usually at night. The survivors held a memorial > service in the winter of that year and recognized "the uncertainity of life". > > > Buried in the cemetery were Edward Wallace 15 May 1811 - 12 Sep 1853 > He was married to Rebecca McDonald. 12 Feb 1810 - 20 Apr 1889 > Their daughter, Lea 16 Nov 18652 - 19 May 1853. > Samuel Caldwell 23 Jun 1852 - 01 Sep 1853 > Elder W.H. Taylor 22 Sep 1810 to 28 Apr 1862 > He was the Pastor of the Fellowship Baptist Church > Whitfield Brown (born in S.C.) 3 Sep 1803 - 24 Sep 1853 > George W. Brown 29 Jul 1833 - 24 Sep 1853, > There were many sunken areas indicsated unmarked graves > > When we first saw the cemetery, there were many other tombstones in it. > However, soy bean farmers cultivated around the cemetery for years and each > time some stones would be lost. Catherine Kelly, wife of Whitfield, was > buried there .. her stone had been missing for years. > > Mrs. Brasfield was aware that I was interested in genealogy .. and she knew > that some Browns were buried in that cemetery. Mrs. Brasfield's mother was > married to Louis Lehmann Brown, son of James Kelly Brown, a grandson of > Whitfield Brown. > > Over the years from 1970, when Jimmie and I first discovered the cemetery, we > would go on a yearly basis in the winter to clean around the gravestones. > Over the years we have led numerous people to the site. The cemetery had been > recorded many times by folks for the purpose of their genealogical research. > > During March 1995, we were aware of activity near the cemetery site and > thought it rather eary for planters however were not alarmed.. Although we > never saw any of the actual bulldozing taking place, we observed from time to > time as we went north from Lorman on Hwy 61, that the cemetery appeared > intact and undisturbed. After a period of time we notice that the bulldozer > was gone and we were under the impression that the land moving was completed > and rejoiced that the cemetery was undisturbed. It still remained under the > oak tree on the knoll. > > On Thursday, 4 May 1995, we noticed a different bulldozer parked between the > cemetery and hwy 61, The knoll and oak tree were visible at that time. > > On Sunday, 7 May 1995, when we went ot Port Gibson, we were astonished to see > that the oak tree and the knoll was gone ! ! ! We drove into the area next > to where the cemetery had been and were astonished !!! The ground was 'flat > as a flitter' and all of the gravestones were gone, also. > > When we got home, I informed the Sheriff of the desecration and told him that > we wished to press charged against whomever was responsible for this > sensiless act. > After some sleuthing, I found out that Gregory Reed was the owner and had > requested the first bulldozer operator to "push the cmemtery down the hill"/ > He refused to do so and was promptly fired. The bull dozer operator, Ernest > Patton, said the gravestones were on theknoll at the time he left the site. > > Apparently, Gregory Reed destroyed the gravestones .. and then hired another > bulldozer company, Dozer Inc from Natchez, to complete the job. The foreman > said there weren't any tombstones on the site when he moved there ... just > some old stone building rubble. I suspect that the tombstone became that > building rubble. > > I contacted Gregory Reed and asked him what happened to the cemetery .. the > answer was "what cemetery?" . I told him that I wanted the stones and would > place them in our cemetery .... that I didn't want to give him any trouble > but .... and he interrupted and said "LADY, YOU CAN'T GIVE ME ANY TROUBLE!" > and slammed the phone down. Let me tell you .. a red flag waved!!!! > > I contacted Elbert Hilliard , Mississippi Archives and History, Jackson and > informed of this desecration ... contacted the Attorney General's office > ...then a lawyer friend to find the appropriate way to handle this matter. > It was to file a judgement against Gregrory Reed through Mississippi Code > 97-29-25. > > We understand that to move a cemetery the removal and relocation of the > remains as well as the gravestones is required by law, however, we would have > been satisfied to relocate the gravestones... We wanted to put Grandpa Brown > and Uncle George's stone in the Brown plot in Beech Hill Cemetery. > > Edward Wallace was the one who donated the land to the Cane Ridge Methodist > Church for their cmemteyr .. we felt that it would have been proper that the > gravestones of his daughter, wife and him be relocated to the Cane Ridge > Cemetery. We would have placed Elder Taylor's and Samuel Caldwell's there > also > > Continued in Part 2 > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem, leads to two more." >
Ann- You are truly amazing. Thank you for all your work in preserving our heritage. Gin Hathaway _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Stuart ... look for my email under [email protected] inthe next day or so. Don't you think his email name GREED is a good handle for him? Ann Brown
Ann, I'll start over with this message. I'm having some trouble with my mail server. Do you know who is buried in those graves? Isn't there a law against desecrating graves? I, too, would join in an effort to block any destruction of headstones and/or graves. Barbara Slater Bishop
Hi everybody, RootsWeb has a great St. Patrick's Day site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/notable/stpatrick.htm May your blessings outnumber The shamrocks that grow.... And may trouble avoid you, Wherever you go. Happy St. Patrick's Day, Nancy Brister Researching all of my Irish/Scottish/English ancestors: McCormick, Carmichael, Garrett, Cain, Dawkins, Jackson, Osborn, Garmon (but especially the Irish on St. Patrick's Day!) of: North Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas, Isle of Lismore--Scotland
That's a good idea! What do you think Ann? Ann Geoghegan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: March 06, 2001 22:19 Subject: Re: [MSJEFFER-L] Whitfield graves > notice the email name couldn't help but reply GREED...............flood his > mail if you need to but his email name says it all........ > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Happiness is a genealogist who just found their lost ancestor." > >
notice the email name couldn't help but reply GREED...............flood his mail if you need to but his email name says it all........
Ann: Please let me know if I can join any effort expressing outrage at the destruction of gravestones as well as the cemetery at Alcorn State University. My grandfather, Walter W. House, his spouse i.e. my grandmother, Gladys Lillian Stuart, and my great-uncle Merah Stephen (Stampley) Stuart were all graduates of Alcorn College in the early 1900s. Dr. Gregory Reed's e-mail address is [email protected] Maybe we could all deluge his office with e-mail protests notes. What do y'all think? Stuart House