Dear Ann, Greetings from Seattle! BUT a transplanted Mississippian from Hamburg. One Suggestion: Put your data in Excel form. It will be much easier to shuffle the data. Will the complete census (not just index)be available? Fulton Harrigill Ann Geoghegan wrote: > > Hi List! > I am in the process of indexing the 1860 Jefferson County Census from the images provided by Nancy Brister at ROOTSWEB. I have posted the completed districts on my web site. It is currently being proofread by Nancy and therefore there may be some errors. I am not indexing this in the normal, limited way of just last name and page. I have found that is very limited in use for the average amateur genealogist! So I have listed the index in the following manner: > Last name > First name > Middle Name or initial > Image# ( the number on the image file) > Actual page# > Remarks ( like ?spelling) > Race ( only if not white) > Enumeration District (Town of Rodney, etc.) > > I think this will be much more useful. When it is complete, I will post it for free to ROOTSWEB. > > The address to my website is: > http://members.tripod.com/ageoghegan/GeogheganMS/index.htm > If this link is not clickable for you, simply cut and past it in you browser address. > The Census pages are still under construction and do not line up like I want them to, but they are usable. For now, you can only reach the actual images from the first page of the Census, but I am going to add a link from each district. Each District has its own page. > All districts except Union Church (which had a third of the county population!) are posted, each on their own page. So if you already know which district your people lived in, you can just skip the rest. > > Let me hear from you what you think of it! > > Ann Geoghegan > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Every time I think I know where they are, they move." -- ================ Fulton Harrigill mailto:[email protected]

Hi List! I am in the process of indexing the 1860 Jefferson County Census from the images provided by Nancy Brister at ROOTSWEB. I have posted the completed districts on my web site. It is currently being proofread by Nancy and therefore there may be some errors. I am not indexing this in the normal, limited way of just last name and page. I have found that is very limited in use for the average amateur genealogist! So I have listed the index in the following manner: Last name First name Middle Name or initial Image# ( the number on the image file) Actual page# Remarks ( like ?spelling) Race ( only if not white) Enumeration District (Town of Rodney, etc.) I think this will be much more useful. When it is complete, I will post it for free to ROOTSWEB. The address to my website is: http://members.tripod.com/ageoghegan/GeogheganMS/index.htm If this link is not clickable for you, simply cut and past it in you browser address. The Census pages are still under construction and do not line up like I want them to, but they are usable. For now, you can only reach the actual images from the first page of the Census, but I am going to add a link from each district. Each District has its own page. All districts except Union Church (which had a third of the county population!) are posted, each on their own page. So if you already know which district your people lived in, you can just skip the rest. Let me hear from you what you think of it! Ann Geoghegan

Charles, Your message was posted on the wrong list. Jefferson Davis Co. and Jefferson Co. are different ones. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Warner <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] Warner surname > Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10460 > > Surname: > ------------------------- > > My great grandfather was from Jefferson Davis County, Missisippi. His name > was Tyree Warner > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" > >

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10460 Surname: ------------------------- My great grandfather was from Jefferson Davis County, Missisippi. His name was Tyree Warner

Right On ! Ann B.

Dear Mr Mullins, Gretings from Seattle! I have a friend who once a year taps me and others for contributions to the American Negro College Fund. I have asked him what he knows about Dr. Reed. Shall I let him read the letter he sent? There is another thing you might be ignoring, his last sentence directed to you was definitely a death threat! Somehow I think that's illegal!!! -- ================ Fulton Harrigill mailto:[email protected]

Hello List: This MS Code §46-2-105 (see below) appears to me to prohibit any person from conducting recreational activities in a cemetery and note that the violation carries a Class E Felony. There is no stipulation in the Code as to the location of the cemetery (private property, public, or even abandoned). Since the Brasfield Cemetery (Whitfield graves) has been established as a cemetery in (1) Ann Brown's publication Jefferson County Cemeteries Vol. I and (2) Jefferson County Court case #47/136-2 (State of Mississippi vs. Gregory Reed) there should not be any question about the official designation of this area as a cemetery. The point here is that if Dr. Reed does in fact proceed with his plans for a basket ball court at that site this is a MS code that could be used to bring new charges against him. It appears to me that this would have been the code which should have been used initially. I have done a lot of searching and have not found any firm Federal Laws or Regulations which appears to pertain to the desecration of a cemetery including general disturbance of Native American mounds and burial sites. Please post it if you can find anything. I did find a case where the McCombs Cemetery in Denton County, Texas was bulldozed in a similar fashion. I am attempting to contact one of the involved persons who has information about their trials and tribulations in getting resolution through the Texas Court System. But I realize that is Texas not MS. Lloyd Mullins MS Code §46-2-105. Trespass or injury to cemetery property - Interference with processions or religious exercises - Penalty (a) No person shall willfully destroy, deface, or injure any monument, tomb, gravestone, or other structure placed in the cemetery, or any roadway, walk, fence or enclosure in or around the same, or injure any tree, plant or shrub therein, or hunt or shoot therein, play at any game or amusement therein, or loiter for lascivious or lewd purposes therein, or interfere, by words or actions, with any funeral procession or any religious exercises. (b) (1) A violation of this section is a Class E felony (2) Following conviction of a person for violating subsection (a), evidence of damages sustained as a result of such violation shall be presented to the jury which shall ascertain the total amount thereof. The court shall then render judgment in such amount against the offender in favor of the cemetery and/or the other aggrieved parties and shall order the offender to make full restitution for such damages. Execution of such judgment shall issue as in other civil cases. Such order of restitution shall be in addition to other sanctions imposed pursuant to subdivision (b)(1). Source [Acts 1875, ch. 142, § 9; Shan., § 2182; Code 1932, § 3920; Acts 1968, ch. 557, § 2; T.C.A. (orig. ed.), § 46-118; Acts 1976, ch. 708, § 2; T.C.A., §§ 46-218, 46-2-118; Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 40; 1995, ch. 134, § 1.]

Surname: Green Jo, I have David Green in my database. Do you have any dates on your Green? I have some info on David Green's children. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: jo green burton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:26 AM Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] any family member relative of Dave & Dora Green > Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10459 > > Surname: Green > ------------------------- > > I am looking for any relative Of Dave & Dora Green of Fayete, Ms. several > of the grandparents children of 16 have passed 7 we are now trying to locate > any remaining relatives . thanks Jo Burton. > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "Did our ancestors ever have a bad heir day?" >

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10459 Surname: Green ------------------------- I am looking for any relative Of Dave & Dora Green of Fayete, Ms. several of the grandparents children of 16 have passed 7 we are now trying to locate any remaining relatives . thanks Jo Burton.

Hi Folks: These are two self explanatory sites. Lloyd Mullins Endangered Cemetery Report http://www.savinggraves.com/reports/report.htm The National Cemetery Protection Act Petition http://www.savinggraves.com/petition/index.htm

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10458 Surname: mc'coy, williams, wyatt, shaw, reed ------------------------- my father dave williams was born in jefferson county in 1900 his father was jimmie williams ,mother: clara, sisters: clara, and bertha lee, who was married to s.d. wyatt he frequented the Bottoms and/or adams bottoms, also the delta he had a daughter whom we didn't know well who at one time lived in ca., also an aunt caroline,who at one time lived on springfield plantation from about 1950-1956. his mother and father was buried at church hill, we also lived on springfield at about the same time for awhile my brother & i attended lidell elem school in 1955-56 my mother is flossie shaw, her father was pearlie euguene shaw ,her mother, susie reed, brother harry lee shaw, my mother's grandparents are frank reed and anna bell mc'coy, frank reed was born 1-18-1875-1-12-1967,his father was prentiss reed, mother mary lou reed, they were buried at gravel hill methodist church cementary,also lou mc'coy washington born 7-1-1887to 3-5-67, married to george washington born10-25-1888to 7-9-64, his father was george washingtin, sr married to josephine taylor of rodney, ms, anna bell mc'coy parents were hamp mc'coy and janie mc'coy. my father dave williams and mother eventually settled in clayton,la they are both deceased. if anyone have any additional information i would appreciate it very much

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10457 Surname: Williams ------------------------- Looking for Peter WILLIAMS, ba-1843, Jefferson Co., MS. Wife--Mary Ann. May have had three brothers--Richard, Benjamin, Gabriel. Lived in Natches, MS in 1873.

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10456 Surname: McCarra, Moore ------------------------- Does anyone have any knowledge of Willliam A. McCarra who married Anna Moore 19 Apr. 1887 in Jefferson Co., MS? If so, please let me know. Many thanks, Frances D.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BFD4DC003A8EAA92DD57089B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- ================ Fulton Harrigill mailto:[email protected] --------------BFD4DC003A8EAA92DD57089B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 23:06:16 -0800 From: Fulton Harrigill <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nancy Brister <[email protected]> Subject: "Dr" Reed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Nancy, I somehow missed just what position "Dr" Reed holds at Alcorn. I did not misunderstand the death threat included in the last sentence. No educated man would have to use the street gang language that he used. Additionally, ignoring the gutter language, I noted at least 6 gramatical errors in the short letter. Does this indicate the quality of education to be found at Alcorn? I believe that both the State House of Representatives and the State Senate have Higher Education Committees. I have a hunch that they might have an interest in both the "scholarly" presentation of this communication and the obvious character of the author. This whole thing reminds me of an aquaintance who bought a home very close to an airport. He knew the airport was there when he bought the property. Yet, guess who was one of the first ones to complain about the airport noise. Conversely, Reed knew of the cemetery and of his moral obligation to honor the dead when he bought the property. It would seem to me that a man in his position would use his influence to be an example to the students at Alcorn. Obviously, such is not the case. -- ================ Fulton Harrigill mailto:[email protected] --------------BFD4DC003A8EAA92DD57089B--

Hi List! Here is a copy of the relevant MS Laws from the MS Code located at the Secretary of State's website: § 97-29-25. Desecration of cemetery. Every person who shall knowingly and willfully dig up, except as otherwise provided by law, obliterate, or in any way desecrate any cemetery where human dead are interred, or cause through word, deed or action the same to happen, shall upon conviction be imprisoned for not more than one (1) year in the county jail or fined not more than five hundred dollars ($500.00), or both, in the discretion of the court. In addition to any penalties that the court is otherwise authorized to impose the court may, in its discretion, order such restitution as it deems appropriate. In construing this section, a cemetery shall mean any plot of ground (1) on which are grave markers of stone, wood, metal or any other material recognizable as marking graves, or (2) the boundaries of which are defined by a recorded plat, a fence line or corner markers, or trees, or are defined in any other discernible manner. Sources: Codes, 1942, § 2076.5; Laws, 1971, ch. 398, § 1; Laws, 1972, ch. 351, § 1; Laws, 1983, ch. 406, eff from and after July 1, 1983. § 1340. Desecration of burial place. A person is guilty of desecration of a burial place if the person intentionally defaces, damages, pollutes or otherwise physically mistreats any such burial place. Any person who desecrates a burial place is guilty of a class A misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than $1,000 nor more than $10,000. (65 Del. Laws, c. 463, § 2; 67 Del. Laws, c. 130, § 8; 70 Del. Laws, c. 186, § 1.) Hope this helps! Ann Geoghegan

Hi everybody, This message is coming from my address because Peggy Dyas has had some trouble posting to the list today and asked if I would give it a try.....here's crossing my fingers. Nancy > Hi List, > I've been following these posts the past couple of weeks and can only > say that Ann Brown is an angel on Earth. I could vision her alone in > that courtroom, facing that Dr. Reed, and was disturbed by that. I > don't know if my own measure of courage would have gotten me that far. > But I am now brightened to hear so many of you supporting Ann in her > efforts, and just wish I could be down in Mississippi to join in. > > It does seem that in the "olden" days, injustices were fought in > person.....by way of groups of people physically gathering to voice > their protests. Nowadays we must do it by Email, phone or letter, I > guess. > > My own ancestors are buried in Church Hill, Jefferson County. Knowing > that I might not ever get there from Virginia, Ann Brown generously gave > her time to photograph my Allen graves there. These photos are so > important to me. It could just as easily have been those graves, if Dr. > Reed acquired that property. > > I often hear current researchers say how they would like to buy markers > to put on their ancestors' graves. How disturbing to think that these > new markers could be plowed under, even now. > > Does anyone have an actual copy of the law or statute (or whatever it's > called) which makes it unlawful to desecrate graves, even when they are > on private property? If so, could it be posted on this mailing list? > Is it only a state law, or is that law also a Federal one? > > Since I began genealogy five years ago, I've heard it said many times > how old graves on farms get plowed over all the time. This was such a > surprise to me, as I always thought that graves and graveyards were > "permanent"....sacred, never to be discarded like so much rubbish. My > Alleins are buried in the church yard at Christ Church. It does alarm > me to think that if for some reason the church sold the property, Dr. > Reed and other wrongdoers like him could do the same thing to those > graves. > > I'm sure our ancestors believed their final resting places would be > permanent, but they have little power in death. So....we are so lucky > to have dedicated people like Ann Brown to fight in their behalf, and > for the benefit of their descendants now and in future generations. As > more grave sites are destroyed, there will be fewer and fewer photos to > take, that's for sure. > > Yes, please send me a copy of Dr. Reed's response. > > Peggy Dyas > >Virginia Beach >> Researching: Allein, Fitzpatric, Wood of > Church Hill, Jefferson Co., MS > > >

Hello All, Concerning the Whitfield grave desecration: If Dr. Reed is claiming we are harrassing him with the emails he has apparently gotten lately, maybe we should, instead, send masses of email on this subject to the Attorney General of the State of Mississippi. His address is: Mike Moore Office of the Attorney General P.O. Box 22947 Jackson, MS 39225-2947 Phone: (601) 359-4230 Email: [email protected] It seems that when you are dealing with irrational people as Dr. Reed seems to be, go over his head and deal with the higher-ups. Barbara Slater Bishop

Everyone, I believe every person on this list has reason to be interested in the e-mail reply sent by Dr. Reed, to Lloyd Mullins, in response to a short, polite message Mr. Mullins sent regarding the graves on his (Dr. Reed's) property. It was forwarded to those of us on the list who had posted a message to Ann concerning the desecration. Unfortunately, I can't send it to the list.....Rootsweb doesn't allow the kind of language Dr. Reed used. And I would hesitate to send this message unsolicited to anyone who might have children with access to e-mail. There's some irony, isn't there, associated with the fact that I feel the need to protect young people from someone who is in a position of responsibility at a college? Now that I understand what Ann has been faced with, my regard for her has increased a hundred fold. Only someone very deeply committed to preserving history and furthering family research would have persevered, facing this kind of wrath. It's clear that Dr. Reed has no respect for either the dead or the living. I wonder if he knows where all of his g-grandparents are buried..... I think Barbara's suggestion about the Attorney General is great one. Maybe he could finally explain why a state law is being ignored. I would be very happy to send this message to anyone who would like to see it. But, I must warn you again, the language goes beyond anything you're probably imagining. Nancy Brister ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara Bishop <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 12:15 PM Subject: [MSJEFFER-L] GRAVE DESECRATION > Hello All, > > Concerning the Whitfield grave desecration: If Dr. Reed is claiming we are harrassing him with the emails he has apparently gotten lately, maybe we should, instead, send masses of email on this subject to the Attorney General of the State of Mississippi. His address is: > > Mike Moore > Office of the Attorney General > P.O. Box 22947 > Jackson, MS 39225-2947 > Phone: (601) 359-4230 > Email: [email protected] > > It seems that when you are dealing with irrational people as Dr. Reed seems to be, go over his head and deal with the higher-ups. > > Barbara Slater Bishop > > > > ==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== > "May you ask the right question of the right person at the right time." >

Oh my, way to go here this to me is just the thing to do thanks At 10:15 AM 03/14/2001 -0800, Barbara Bishop wrote: > >Hello All, > >Concerning the Whitfield grave desecration: If Dr. Reed is claiming we are harrassing him with the emails he has apparently gotten lately, maybe we should, instead, send masses of email on this subject to the Attorney General of the State of Mississippi. His address is: > >Mike Moore >Office of the Attorney General >P.O. Box 22947 >Jackson, MS 39225-2947 >Phone: (601) 359-4230 >Email: [email protected] > >It seems that when you are dealing with irrational people as Dr. Reed seems to be, go over his head and deal with the higher-ups. > >Barbara Slater Bishop > > > >==== MSJEFFER Mailing List ==== >"May you ask the right question of the right person at the right time." > > God Bless Lynda

Posted on: Jefferson Co. Ms Queries Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Jefferson/10455 Surname: Petit, Bethancourt ------------------------- Is there anyone out there who could do a LOOKUP for me in the 1920 census for Lorman, Jefferson, Mississippi for the name Paul Pierre Petit and his family. Living with them is Dorothy Bethancourt. I do not have access to this census record here in Charlotte NC so I hoped there would be someone who might be able to help me. I appreciate any help I can get. PBD