Nancy: Thank you for the offer but that is not what I need. GG'Grandpa James Gotcher was married in Lawrence Co AL in 1843. My G'Grandpa was born in AL in 1849. Henry born in 1851 in either AL or MS. Four siblings in same school in Tish'o Co 1858. I have read and re-read 1850 census until my eyes droop and I cannot find them anywhere in AL or MS. It is possible that they moved between census's (before the AL census and after the MS census) I am going to start on the TN border counties next. Again - Thanks Clyde Gotcher - Hermann MO Raking the leaves under my family tree.