Kay R. Music, do you, or anyone anyone know who the parents of this James Gray were? I have a James Gray who married Elizabeth Crenshaw Coker May 27, 1843 in Itawamba County, Mississippi. Their second child was James Gray born 1845 probably in Itawamba or Monroe County. Is this the same Gray family you are looking for. Warren Brower ----- Original Message ----- From: <lmusic1@bellsouth.net> To: <MSITAWAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:55 AM Subject: [MSITAWAM-L] Census Look up? > Can anyone do a census look up for me? There is a question of my great > grandmother's middle name being Jane, or Joan? The bible I have says > Donna Joan GRAY. Others have Donna Jane GRAY. She was born 20 Aug. 1875 > in Itawamba Co. MS. Her parents were James GRAY and Elizabeth Jane > WRIGHT. > Thanking you in advance. > Kay R. Music > >

Does anyone know of an indexing software program that you can use to index a book? Thanks Martha

In a message dated 10/30/2000 2:09:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, DPate80296@aol.com writes: << << S. John WARREN's, who was the father of Charles WARREN, >> Lentz Diary: 6/02/1869 Old Charley Warren was drowned in creek. He was to have drowned near Dorsey, Itawamba County, (Mantachee Creek) >> Drowned while trying to cross a river in a flood and lost the county payroll that was never found. 1st sherriff of Itawamba County. Karen

In a message dated 10/29/00 8:26:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, bennettj@uswest.net writes: << S. John WARREN's, who was the father of Charles WARREN, >> Lentz Diary: 6/02/1869 Old Charley Warren was drowned in creek. He was to have drowned near Dorsey, Itawamba County, (Mantachee Creek)

In a message dated 10/29/00 8:26:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, bennettj@uswest.net writes: << Reuben WARREN, Sr. b. abt. 1760-1765 in VA d. 1850, north of Fulton, Itawamba County, MS md. 1) Betsey PRESTON, 1790, Lincoln County, KY md. 2) Margaret "Margery" HANCOCK, 1811, Wayne County, KY >> Here is a message Subj: Re: Itawamba%20Page Date: 10/25/99 6:39:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: Tlnoyes@aol.com Reuben Warren - Information submitted to the DAR for Reuben Warren: "Buried just east of Highway #25 about 7 miles north of Fulton, MS on farm that was occupied by Idus Brewer in 1963. There is no tombstone at his grave site. Margaret Hancock Warren, wife of Reuben Warren, Sr. is also buried by his side." S John Warren, his brother is buried 1/2 mile north of this site.

Thank you to everyone who responded to my previous message and who so willingly shared your research with me. I realized after I sent my message that there were several Reuben WARRENs in Itawamba County. The one I was asking about is the following: Reuben WARREN, Sr. b. abt. 1760-1765 in VA d. 1850, north of Fulton, Itawamba County, MS md. 1) Betsey PRESTON, 1790, Lincoln County, KY md. 2) Margaret "Margery" HANCOCK, 1811, Wayne County, KY They had about 12 children. One was Abel S. WARREN. I understand he was a probate judge in Itawamba County. Reuben WARREN was supposedly an older brother of S. John WARREN's, who was the father of Charles WARREN, the first sheriff of Itawamba County. Has any genealogical research been done on Charles WARREN? If so, could someone point me in the right direction so I could obtain a copy of it? Thanks again! Jane

In a message dated 10/27/2000 10:55:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bennettj@uswest.net writes: << Reuben WARREN, my ggg-grandfather >> Jane, do you have a date for Reuben Warren? Karen

On page 93 of Itawamba, a History by Forrest Reed, it states: "The Warrens lived west of the river, and were the founders of the Warren farm, a large plantation which was owned in my day by John A. Ballard. One of these Warrens was assissinated while standing in the door of his home one night...." Is this true or a myth? If it is true, how can I find out more information about this grim event? The WARRENs are my line in Itawamba County, and I am looking (read desperate) for any accounts that would give me a clue to the parents of Reuben WARREN, my ggg-grandfather and a 15-year-long brick wall. Thanks all! Jane

In a message dated 10/23/00 12:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, maynard@hti.net writes: << http://www.my-ged.com/maynard/ >> Yes Travis and I share the same gr gr grandfather Samuel Branch Moore. I am also related to the Wiggintons and Simmons Wanda WLPSnugs@aol.com

FULTON: Travis Moore Gray, 92, died Thursday, June 08, 2000, at the North Mississippi Medical Center. He was born April 10, 1908, to Martin Mattox and Ida Frances Moore Gray. He was a resident of Dorsey for more than 70 years. He was a 1929 graduate of Itawamba Agricultural High School. He was a member of Hopewell Baptist Church, where he was treasurer and a Sunday school teacher. He was the first paid school bus driver in Itawamba County, a fact that was written about in the Itawamba County Times newspaper in 1997 and in a "Journal of Mississippi History" article. He was a past president of the Dorsey Rural Community Development Club. An avid gardener and accomplished tomato grower, he enjoyed sharing his garden produce with friends and neighbors. Services will be at 11 a.m. today at Hopewell Baptist Church with Bro Grover Laird, Bro Eugene Digby and Bro Danny Pitts officiating. Burial will be in Keyes Cemetery. Senter Funeral Home is in charge of the arrangements. Survivors include his wife, Cuple Works Gray of Dorsey; four daughters, Montine Posey of Tupelo, Martha Berryhill of Hoover, Ala., Ina Kimbrough of Florence and Ida Ballard of Brandon; a sister, Sue Burch of Keizer, Ore.; five grandchildren; five great-grandchildren. Pallbearers will be Johnny Mann, Adron Mattox, John Ed Gray, Robin Gray, Tim Berryhill and James McMillian.

Yes. Go to my-ged.com at http://www.my-ged.com/maynard/ Are you related to this family? ~ann~ At 02:33 PM 10/23/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ann, >do you have a Cuple Works b 10/31/1911that married a Travis Moore 4/10/1908 >Thanks >Wanda

Ann, do you have a Cuple Works b 10/31/1911that married a Travis Moore 4/10/1908 Thanks Wanda

Tony -- I have that book by Forest F. Reed. Do you have access to the 1840 Itawamba County, Miss census? (I'm an invalid and cannot get to the library to look myself). I'd like to know how many females were in the John Reed and Jincy Coffee household in 1840. There is a large gap between George and Martin where Cynthia might be placed. After Eli Works passed away, my ggg-grandfather, James Franklin (Frank) Works sued his elder brother John for control of the Eli Works estate. The lawsuit just rambles on and on and at one point, it seems James Franklin testified that John had died. I know Cynthia went to DeKalb County, Ala--not sure if John did. Kindest regards, Ann

Somone sent this to me from another list that I am on. Thought I would share. Kay A census lookup! CENSUS-LOOKUP Lists were >>Established 11 October 2000 1. All lists are >> >>XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (regular mode) >>XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com (digest mode) >> >> >>The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state >>you are looking in added in its place. >> >>Examples: >> >>MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >>CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >>IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com >> >> >>2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the >> state). Do not put anything in the subject line. In the body of the >email >> write only: >> >>subscribe >> >> Then send it on :) >> >>3. POSTING to the new census lists: >> >>A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state >>code for the XX again) >> >>B: Subject line MUST have the following: >> County/Year/Surname >> >>Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith >> >> >>C: In the body of the email: >> >>List whom you are looking for. >>Supply as much information as you can. >>Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. >> >>D: Mail it on! >> >>That's it folks :) >> >>I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes >>below for you. >> >> >> AL Alabama >> AK Alaska >> AZ Arizona >> AR Arkansas >> >> CA California >> CO Colorado >> CT Connecticut >> >> DC District Of Columbia >> DE Delaware >> >> FL Florida >> >> GA Georgia >> >> HI Hawaii >> >> ID Idaho >> IL Illinois >> IN Indiana >> IA Iowa >> >> KS Kansas >> KY Kentucky >> >> LA Louisiana >> >> ME Maine >> MD Maryland >> MA Massachusetts >> MI Michigan >> MN Minnesota >> MS Mississippi >> MO Missouri >> MT Montana >> >> NE Nebraska >> NV Nevada >> NH New Hampshire >> NJ New Jersey >> NM New Mexico >> NY New York >> NC North Carolina >> ND North Dakota >> >> OH Ohio >> OK Oklahoma >> OR Oregon >> >> PA Pennsylvania >> >> RI Rhode Island >> >> SC South Carolina >> SD South Dakota >> >> TN Tennessee >> TX Texas >> >> UT Utah >> >> VT Vermont >> VA Virginia >> >> WA Washington (state) >> WV West Virginia >> >> WI Wisconsin >> WY Wyoming

[Part 1 out of 8 articles; the others will arrive as I get time to type them up. Watch for the asterisk "*". It FOLLOWS the name of the people still thought to be living in 1907. It does NOT precede the name. I just follow the pattern used in the article, as well as the spelling used in the article, excepting where I know it to be wrong.] >From a front page article in The Tupelo Journal Friday, January 11, 1907 Town Creek Rifles The following muster roll of the Town Creek Rifles, afterward Company C, 2nd Miss. Infantry Volunteers Confederate States Army Northern Va., prepared by W.C. Bessonet and J.M. Beachum in 1894 from memory, and corrected and revised in 1906 by J. Stevens and J.P. Stovall. Those marked with a * were still marching on when last heard from and numbered 31 about 5 years ago, but those known to be still living not more than 23 and they loiter and linger, as it were, waiting the order to "cross over the river and rest under the shade of the trees." Capt. - W.C. Bromley; 1st Lieut. - W.M. Pounds; 2nd Lieut. - J.L. Sargent;* 3rd Lieut. - A.R. Walker; 1st Sargeant - S.S. Owen, appointed adjutant 1862, killed at Petersburg, Va., April 3, 1865; 2nd Sargeant - J.F. Story,* elected captain; 3rd Sargeant - L.T. Davis, elected lieutenant; 4th Sargeant - Thomas Deaton, Sr.; 5th Sargeant - Wm. Davis. Privates W.T. Ashford; J.L. Anderson, killed at battle of the Wilderness, Va., May, 1864; J.A. Atkins, killed at Suffolk 1863; R.A. Armstrong; W.C. Borum, killed at 3rd battle Manasses; W.C. Bessonet,* elected lieutenant, wounded at Petersburg; J.W. Brown, elected lieutenant; J.A. Bean;* J.G. Bell, killed at Gettysburg, Va., 1863; Geo. Bean,* captured at Gettysburg, sent to Ft. Delaware; Robt. Bell, killed in 2nd battle Manasses; Mabern Birmingham, captured, died in prison Point Lookout; Wm. Bazemore, killed in battle; Jno. Bazemore; Jack Brazeal; * Jno. Bromley, died in service; Wm. Bell, killed at Gaines' Mill, June, 1862; John Cayson, killed 2nd Manasses; Jim Conner;* C.C. Clayton; Joshua Clayton; Absolom Clayton, killed in battle; Henry Carrol;* Thos. Coker; Geo. Coke, killed in battle; Bose Crayton;* Jim Davis, of Priceville; F.M. Duvall, Sr.; Thos. Deaton, killed in 1st battle Manasses, July 21, 1861; Jim Deaton; F.M. Duvall, Jr.; Jack Eubanks; Jim Evans; John English, killed in battle; John Flynn; J.C. Flynn; Jim Francis, killed in battle; Joe Green, sub. Henry Carroll; John Greek, killed in battle; Doss Green;* Thos. Gray; Dock Hughes, killed in battle; Wade Hughes; Robt. Harris, killed at Sharpsburg, 1862; Elim Hobbs, killed in battle; Wilfor Holeman, killed at Manasses; Jacob Lesley; Nathaniel Lesley, killed at Gettysburg, July 1, 1863; Dan Lesley; Sebe Loony; R.H. Marson;* Geo. Martin; Jim Marshal, killed at Gettysburg, 1863; John Mayfield; A.D. Martin,* dis; W.M. Mullins;* Wm. E. Miles, killed or shot; T.T. Mabry; Osburn Massey; Martin Mayfield; Jim McCarty;* W.D. McCarty; John McHenry, killed in battle; Fowler Merchant, killed 1st battle Manasses, July 21, 1861; Jack McDonald; L.W.D. Nelson, killed in 1st battle Manasses; Frank Pettigrew, killed in battle; Wm. Pettigrew;* Jim Pettigrew;* John Palmer; Steve Price; Wm. Spears; Tom Sargent; F.O. Sargent, dis.; Jno. Sargent, killed in battle; Jeff Sisk, dis.; Ruben Roberts; Ruffin Roberts, killed at Gettysburg; Alford Roberts; Bob Roberts;* A.M. Rea;* Tom Rea; A.R. Riddle, died at Lynchburg with measles, 1861; Jim Rogers, dis.; Sam Rowland;* Rom Sargent;* Riley Stevens, killed in battle; H.H. Story, killed at Gettysburg; J.K.P. Stovall;* G.D. Stovall;* Oscar Stevens; Alf Scales; Emit Scales, killed in battle; Dr. F.A. Scales, elected capt.; John Sanders;* D.H. Traylor, killed in 1st battle Manassas; Tom Traylor; Geo. Turner, killed in battle; Peter Turner; Jim Turner; W.H. Tabler;* John Taylor; Dr. J.C. Thorn, died with smallpox; Chas. Vinson, killed in 2nd battle Manasses; Wm. Vinson; D.T. Walker, elected lieut.; Jim Walker, died at Petersburg; A.R. Wiygul, killed at 2nd Manasses; Mayfield Wiygul;* W.G. Williams; Doc Wardlaw, dis.; Lee Wigley;* Jack Wigley;* Wm. Westbrooks, killed in 1st battle Manasses; E.G. Wilson, elected lieut.; Augustus Watson;* Will Wren, dis.; Jim Wheeler, went to Cuba; Bob Young; Jack Champion; George Champion, killed at Wilderness; Tom Franklin; Frank Goar; Roland West; Nick Dalton;* Tobe Morris, killed 2nd battle Manasses; John Wise, Joe Stockton; Gom Westmoreland;* Geo. Brown, dis.; John Liles; Wm. Lancaster; J.M. Bachum.* This above is a muster roll of the Town Creek Rifles, which was organized March 18, 1861 at Old Richmond, Itawamba County, Miss., and rendezvoused at Corinth, Miss., May 1st, 1861 and became Co. C of 2nd Miss., and left for Lynchburg, Va. about May 10 and enlisted in the service of the Confederate States about June 1st and was ordered to Harper's Ferry, Va. about June 10, 1861. W.C. Bromley was elected as delegate to the convention from Itawamba. He was opposed to secession, but when the ordinance was passed, he, like all other patriots, joined and gave himself to his State and offered his services to Gov. Pettus and obtained a commission as captain and came home and raised a company and he, having had some military experience (by reason of having been with Jeff Davis in Mexico) was elected captain and I remember well his reply to the boys who were all greeners and said they would flay the Yanks before breakfast and be back home before the dinner horn blew, he told them it might be late bedtime before we got back, and he was surely right. Well, the boys would halt and absolutely refuse to go until we could get passenger coaches to ride in at first and the captain would say, "Boys, you will be glad to get flats after awhile." But our real military life never begun until about the time we left Harper's Ferry, and we were getting very anxious to have a chance to whip the Yanks and go back home and we really thought that we were going to have it right now. We were drawn up in full battle array, and the cyuriers were dashing back and forth with orders and conducting regiments to a position until nightfall and we were ordered to sleep on arms. We of course thought that we would have the chance for our before-breakfast-spell the next morning. So the matter was easily explained by Col. Faulkner and Capt. Bromley, who said both armies were so large that they could not get into position in time to fight to a finish before nightand so we were to sleep every man with gun in hand, expecting to meet the Yanks next morning and about two hours before day we were ordered up and took a beeline to the turnpike road to Winchester, and the Yanks were going on the other end of the same road for Williamsport, Johnson giving McDowd the slip and vice versa and I never saw a madder set of boys in my life; but the captain said, "Boys, you will all be glad for a chance like this before this is done with." So military life went on drilling and making believe that we were going to fight until the evening of the 18 of July we were ordered on force march to Manasses and after marching all night and all day the 19, we camped at a little station on the Manassas Gap R.R., sleepy, hungry, footsore from marching on pike roads, and sure enough, as the captain said, we were all glad to ride on flat cars down to Manassas on the 20th. We went out on the front line and camped and as we passed on we saw many of the boys who had had some experience on the 18th at Bull Run. We guyed and taunted the boys and they would reply, "Here, you fellows may have our place." We struck camp on the fighting line about sundown. With loaded guns in hand we slept that night and were woke up the next morning by Winfield Scott's signal gun and after eating some hard tack, salt meat and coffee we put in the day at manouvering and double quicking from one point to another, every fellow holding out as long as he could stand it until about 3 p.m. we found a place where the Yanks were driving some Georgia Crackers off and we had a chance to show what stuff we were made of, and in speaking of it affterward Capt. Beck of Co. D said that he took (1?)80 men up to the muzzle of long Tom and left 90 of them lying there and when he had nobody to protect him he thought that it was high time for him to get out. Co. C did not fare so badly as Co. D was said to have fared, but we got enough in that battle to make the captain's prophecy true and after that we were always glad when the time came to turn the other way, although we always waited for orders and then went back in good order: but the ardor of the boys for fighting was considerably cooled down and they never refused a chance to ride on any kind of vehicle and many times some feigned sickness to get to ride. But from first to last Co. C had 167 names on the roll and we left many on the battlefield, many other sickened and died, while less than half survived the war and we do not know positively now that more than 23 are still living, though we have marked 31 as still marching on when last heard from and we who still survive are just waiting, as it were, for the orders of the Captain General to pass over the river and rest in the shade of the trees. And now, comrades, this little bit of history of Co. C 2nd Miss., is just applicable to all other companies that went into the service during the first year and although many talk and write of those who went first as being more heroic and more patriotic than those who went later but I can't see it that way, because there were only a few of the first who had even a remote idea of what was ahead of him, while those who went later on knew something of the horrors of war. -J.P. Stovall

I hope I don't get in any trouble for sharing this? A fellow genealogist sent it to me. I do not know who the author is, but if anyone does, please let us know. I think we can all relate to more than a few of these. LOL Genealogists never die, they just lose their census. 1. My family coat of arms ties at the back....is that normal? 2. My family tree is a few branches short! All help appreciated. 3. My ancestors must be in a witness protection program! 4. Shake your family tree and watch the nuts fall! 5. My hobby is genealogy, I raise dust bunnies as pets. 6. How can one ancestor cause so much TROUBLE?? 7. I looked into my family tree and found out I was a sap. 8. I'm not stuck, I'm ancestrally challenged. 9. I'm searching for myself; Have you seen me? 10. If only people came with pull down menus and on-line help. 11. Isn't genealogy fun? The answer to one problem leads to two more! 12. It's 2000... Do you know where your-Gr-Gr-Grandparents are? 13. A family reunion is an effective form of birth control. 14. A family tree can wither if nobody tends its roots. 15. A new cousin a day keeps the boredom away. 16. After 30 days, unclaimed ancestors will be adopted. 17. Am I the only person up my tree... sure seems like it. 18. Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples. 19. Can a first cousin once removed..RETURN? 20. FLOOR: The place for storing your priceless genealogy records. 21. Gene-Allergy: It's a contagious disease, but I love it. 22. Genealogists are time unravelers. 23. Genealogy is like playing hide and seek: They hide...I seek! 24. Genealogy: Tracing yourself back to better people. 26. A pack rat is hard to live with, but makes a fine ancestor. 27. I want to find ALL of them! So far I only have a few thousand. 28. I Should have asked them BEFORE they died! 29. I think my ancestors had several "Bad heir" days. 30. I'm always late. My ancestors arrived on the JUNEflower. 31. Only a Genealogist regards a step backwards as progress. 32. Share your knowledge; it is a way to achieve immortality. 33. Heredity: Everyone believes in it until their children act like fools! 34. It's an unusual family that hath neither a lady of the evening or thief. 35. Many a family tree needs pruning. 36. Shh! Be very, very quiet.... I'm hunting forebears. 37. Snobs talk as if they had begotten their own ancestors! 38. That's strange: half my ancestors are WOMEN! 39. I'm not sick, I've just got fading genes. 40. Genealogists live in the past lane. 41. Cousins marrying cousins: Very tangled roots! 42. Cousins marrying cousins: A non branching family tree. 43. All right! Everybody out of the gene pool! 44. Always willing to share my ignorance... 45. Documentation...The hard part.. 46. Genealogy: Chasing your own tale! 47. Genealogy...will I ever find time to mow the lawn again? 48. All the really important information is on that missing page 49. I researched my family tree...and apparently I don't exist! 50. SO MANY ANCESTORS...........................SO LITTLE TIME!

Hi! Just thought that I would let some of you that are descendants of some of the Dutch Fork area of SC, that there are several family biographies that have been posted on that website. Those descended from the Schumpert, Boozer, and other families, might find some long lost roots there. You can find them at: http://www.dfgs.homestead.com/family.html Nancy Farr Bible

Thanks Belinda -- It does list John Reed, but not how many females in the family...I'm searching for Cynthia Reed who married John W. Works. And if you find one, please post to the list. ~ann~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Belinda Upton" <bupton@clnk.com> To: <MSITAWAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [MSITAWAM-L] Isaac Sartin in 1840 census > Ann, > This is the link for the 1840 Census Index. > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~robfra/census.html > > If you find a url with the full census please let me know. > Thanks, > Belinda > >

Ann, This is the link for the 1840 Census Index. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~robfra/census.html If you find a url with the full census please let me know. Thanks, Belinda

What is the URL for the 1840 Itawamba census? I cannot find it. ~ann~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "marjoriec" <marjoriec@getaway.net> To: <MSITAWAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [MSITAWAM-L] Isaac Sartin in 1840 census > Go to the Itawamba Historical Society and you can find the 1840 census in > Itawamba CO. or go to the Itawamba Co Forum and some one can help you. > Marjorie > -----Original Message----- > From: ksartin <ksartin@netzero.net> > To: MSITAWAM-L@rootsweb.com <MSITAWAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, September 30, 2000 1:44 AM > Subject: [MSITAWAM-L] Isaac Sartin in 1840 census > > > >Could someone with access to the 1840 Itawamba County census please lookup > >Isaac Sartin , (I believe he was on page 152) ? I would to know his age > plus > >the age/sex ranges for everyone in his household . > >Thank you , > >Ken sartin > > > > > >____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ > >Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html > >Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 > >___________________________________________________________ > > > > >