To be more exact, statewide keeping of death certificates began in Mississippi in November, 1912 according to a mandate from the state legislature. Sandi C. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages Michelle, Death records for MS have been kept since 1911, I believe. You will need to write to the Bureau of Vital Statistics in Jackson, MS to get copies. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikeslab" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > Thanks Bill, > > I live in northeast Arkansas so haven't been able to check the records > myself. The record you found is correct. His name was John Alvie Knox. > > Do you know what, if any, 1910 death records are available for this same > area? > > Thanks again, > Michelle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billy Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:48 PM > Subject: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > > > > Have you checked the Franklin County marriage records in Meadville, MS, > the county seat? You do not find John A. Knox and Cornie Lovrien, but you > will find in Book 4, page 129, Alvie KNOX m. Corrie LOVINGO on Jan. 4, 1911. > The spelling of Corrie's name could be different due to person transcribing > records. > > Bill Lee > > > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "May your family tree grow happy branches!" > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== "Computers were invented to do Genealogy." ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Elaine, I was also looking in the Franklin Co., Miss. marriage records. I found Charles Robinson and Louisa Wright's marriage and I found a lot of other Robinson marriages but none fit the Children of Charles and Louisa. Even the cemetery records didn't fit. I am still looking. I am also interested in the Flowers and Havis. Melba ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine Tasker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 13 August, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] Re: Robinson. Hi Tony! > Hey there, They just may have "Gone To Texas" because they sure > have gone somewhere. I found a possible "Levi Robinson" born > abt 1862, who married Mary Ann Tyler on December 18, 1887 in > Jefferson Co, MS. The age would fit, but no confirmation at > this time. Mary Rebecca Robinson and James E. Havis Jr are said > to have been married in Franklin County, but I can't find a > thing on them either. Mary Rebecca Robinson died in Hill Co, > Texas in 1924, James E. had already been dead for over 30 > years, but she and James never lived in Texas, she died while > visiting my g-grandmother, who was her daughter-in-law, in > Hubbard. So if all her brothers and sisters went to Texas, she > and James stayed in Bude, MS. > > Mary Rebecca Robinson was the daughter of Charles Robinson and > Louisa Right/Wright. Louisa Right/Wright was the daughter of > Elijah Right/Wright and Mary Kendall, the Mary Right, age 71, > that you mention below. The surrounding Right/Wrights are all > related. But, no Robinson help. > > I am also researching a Robinson/Eads connection as a > possibility. > > Are you still looking for the Flowers/Havis connection? > > Elaine > > > > *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** > > On 8/12/02 at 6:49 PM Anthony A. Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >Elaine, > > > >Did most of these Robinson children hang a sign on the door > that said > >"Gone To Texas"? I find no Franklin County marriages for any > of them. > > I know your gg grandmother married James E. Havis, Jr. (Also > from > >Franklin County) but I don't have any idea where or when they > were married. > >In the 1850 Franklin County census there were Rights/Wrights > living on > >both sides of Charles Robinson and Louisa Wright Robinson > Also, in > >their house (No 349) there was a Mary Right , aged 71, b. DE > living > >with them who was probably her grandmother. > > > >Tony Miller > > > > > > > > > > > >==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > >"Sharing genealogy is a rewarding experience!" > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Genealogists: People helping people.....that's what it's all about." > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Sandi C., Your are as usual absolutely correct but even with mandate the system was flawed for years and there are an insurmountable number of cases in the State of Mississippi after that time when deaths were simply overlooked and not reported. Even as late as the 1940-1944 time frame I know of deaths that happened in Beauvoir, the CSA Old Soldier's Home in Biloxi, where the individuals were buried in the backyard cemetery and their deaths were not formally reported. Later when they closed the place they apparently trashed the records and they no longer know the relationship of the people buried in the backyard or when many of them died. Tony Miller

Elaine, Did most of these Robinson children hang a sign on the door that said "Gone To Texas"? I find no Franklin County marriages for any of them. I know your gg grandmother married James E. Havis, Jr. (Also from Franklin County) but I don't have any idea where or when they were married. In the 1850 Franklin County census there were Rights/Wrights living on both sides of Charles Robinson and Louisa Wright Robinson Also, in their house (No 349) there was a Mary Right , aged 71, b. DE living with them who was probably her grandmother. Tony Miller

Hi, I am researching Robinsons in Franklin Co, MS. Charles Robinson and Louisa Wright had children Sarah, Thomas, Josephine, Levi, Elijah and Mary Rebecca Robinson (my gg-grandmother). Elaine

Ann: You are right, and i was too. The Court House for the County (for city of Bude) is Meadville. So check city records for Bude, and County records at Meadville, as well as Brookhaven. But I know someone found it already in Meadville. I am sorry I did not word it right. Blame it on sick old man syndrone. VBG ED Ann Geoghegan wrote: > There is no BUDE County in MS! The FRANKLIN County Courthouse is in > MEADVILLE, Franklin County, MS! LINCOLN County records would be in > Brookhaven if they have the record. There was a huge Courthouse fire in > Brookhaven around the turn of the century. > > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward J. Hall, Jr." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] marriage record-BYRD-KNOX > > > Just adding a look see note. Suggest you also check BUDE County > Courthouse as well as Meadville, and last Brookhaven for these records. > That is closest... > > ED not doing much, but still here folks > > > > mikeslab wrote: > > > > > Looking for a late 1910 marriage record in the McCall Creek area between > Mrs. Cornie LOVRIEN (maiden name BYRD) and John A KNOX. (could possibly be > Joseph A Knox). The marriage probably took place sometime between July 1910 > and Feb 1911. Would appreciate any help. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Michelle > > > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > -- > > http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic > > Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey > > Laird,White,Powhatan > > > > > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > "Oh where, oh where, have my ancestors gone? Oh where, or where, can they > be?" > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Oh where, oh where, have my ancestors gone? Oh where, or where, can they be?" > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey Laird,White,Powhatan

Michelle, Death records for MS have been kept since 1911, I believe. You will need to write to the Bureau of Vital Statistics in Jackson, MS to get copies. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikeslab" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > Thanks Bill, > > I live in northeast Arkansas so haven't been able to check the records > myself. The record you found is correct. His name was John Alvie Knox. > > Do you know what, if any, 1910 death records are available for this same > area? > > Thanks again, > Michelle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billy Lee" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:48 PM > Subject: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > > > > Have you checked the Franklin County marriage records in Meadville, MS, > the county seat? You do not find John A. Knox and Cornie Lovrien, but you > will find in Book 4, page 129, Alvie KNOX m. Corrie LOVINGO on Jan. 4, 1911. > The spelling of Corrie's name could be different due to person transcribing > records. > > Bill Lee > > > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "May your family tree grow happy branches!" > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Mississippi began issuing Death Certificates Nov 1912. Information may be obtained by checking the following site: http://www.onlinevitalrecords.com/MississippiVitalRecords.htm Ona Patrick -----Original Message----- From: mikeslab [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 9:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages Thanks Bill, I live in northeast Arkansas so haven't been able to check the records myself. The record you found is correct. His name was John Alvie Knox. Do you know what, if any, 1910 death records are available for this same area? Thanks again, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > Have you checked the Franklin County marriage records in Meadville, MS, the county seat? You do not find John A. Knox and Cornie Lovrien, but you will find in Book 4, page 129, Alvie KNOX m. Corrie LOVINGO on Jan. 4, 1911. The spelling of Corrie's name could be different due to person transcribing records. > Bill Lee > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== "May your family tree grow happy branches!" ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Thanks Bill, I live in northeast Arkansas so haven't been able to check the records myself. The record you found is correct. His name was John Alvie Knox. Do you know what, if any, 1910 death records are available for this same area? Thanks again, Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Lee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: [MSFRANKL-L] Franklin Co., MS Marriages > Have you checked the Franklin County marriage records in Meadville, MS, the county seat? You do not find John A. Knox and Cornie Lovrien, but you will find in Book 4, page 129, Alvie KNOX m. Corrie LOVINGO on Jan. 4, 1911. The spelling of Corrie's name could be different due to person transcribing records. > Bill Lee > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Have you checked the Franklin County marriage records in Meadville, MS, the county seat? You do not find John A. Knox and Cornie Lovrien, but you will find in Book 4, page 129, Alvie KNOX m. Corrie LOVINGO on Jan. 4, 1911. The spelling of Corrie's name could be different due to person transcribing records. Bill Lee

There is no BUDE County in MS! The FRANKLIN County Courthouse is in MEADVILLE, Franklin County, MS! LINCOLN County records would be in Brookhaven if they have the record. There was a huge Courthouse fire in Brookhaven around the turn of the century. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward J. Hall, Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] marriage record-BYRD-KNOX > Just adding a look see note. Suggest you also check BUDE County Courthouse as well as Meadville, and last Brookhaven for these records. That is closest... > ED not doing much, but still here folks > > mikeslab wrote: > > > Looking for a late 1910 marriage record in the McCall Creek area between Mrs. Cornie LOVRIEN (maiden name BYRD) and John A KNOX. (could possibly be Joseph A Knox). The marriage probably took place sometime between July 1910 and Feb 1911. Would appreciate any help. > > > > Thanks, > > Michelle > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > -- > http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic > Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey > Laird,White,Powhatan > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Oh where, oh where, have my ancestors gone? Oh where, or where, can they be?" > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

ED Thanks for the suggestions. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward J. Hall, Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] marriage record-BYRD-KNOX > Just adding a look see note. Suggest you also check BUDE County Courthouse as well as Meadville, and last Brookhaven for these records. That is closest... > ED not doing much, but still here folks > > mikeslab wrote: > > > Looking for a late 1910 marriage record in the McCall Creek area between Mrs. Cornie LOVRIEN (maiden name BYRD) and John A KNOX. (could possibly be Joseph A Knox). The marriage probably took place sometime between July 1910 and Feb 1911. Would appreciate any help. > > > > Thanks, > > Michelle > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > -- > http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic > Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey > Laird,White,Powhatan > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Oh where, oh where, have my ancestors gone? Oh where, or where, can they be?" > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Michelle, The marriage records for Franklin Co., MS are in the Meadville Court House and they are maintained by Mrs. Emfinger. Do two left turns when you walk in the front door of the building and your in the right office. The information on the marriage you inquired about is as follows: Franklin Co., MS Marriages Volume 4 Page 129/KNOX, Alvie/ Corrie LOVINGO/4Jan1911/C.M.O'Neal MG MG = Minister of Gospel Tony Miller in Calabasas, CA

Looking for a late 1910 marriage record in the McCall Creek area between Mrs. Cornie LOVRIEN (maiden name BYRD) and John A KNOX. (could possibly be Joseph A Knox). The marriage probably took place sometime between July 1910 and Feb 1911. Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Michelle

Just adding a look see note. Suggest you also check BUDE County Courthouse as well as Meadville, and last Brookhaven for these records. That is closest... ED not doing much, but still here folks mikeslab wrote: > Looking for a late 1910 marriage record in the McCall Creek area between Mrs. Cornie LOVRIEN (maiden name BYRD) and John A KNOX. (could possibly be Joseph A Knox). The marriage probably took place sometime between July 1910 and Feb 1911. Would appreciate any help. > > Thanks, > Michelle > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Genealogy is like Hide & Seek: They Hide and I Seek." > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey Laird,White,Powhatan

I really don't have a clue. I checked the Calcote Book when I was at the library in New Orleans earlier this year but did not find her listed. I think her nickname was Nancy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward J. Hall, Jr." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MSFRANKL-L] James Jackson Owens and Emma Sarah Calcote > Just wondering if these are related to Calcotes around McCall's Creek, Ms. > > ED > > Delores Tousinau wrote: > > > We are searching for information on James Jackson Owens and his wife Emma Sarah Calcote. There children were: Fancis Rogelia "Fannie" Owens > > Robert Allen "Bob" Owens > > Sarah Cornelia Owens B: 24 Feb 1861 D: 19 May 1936 > > Sarah married William Daniel Tousinau in Wilkinson Co in Jan. 1877 and is buried at Oaklawn Cemetery in Centerville MS. > > On her death certificate is shows her place of birth as Franklin Co and that her parents were from Franklin Co. > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thank You > > Billy and Delores Tousinau > > -- > http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic > Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey > Laird,White,Powhatan > > > > ==== MSFRANKL Mailing List ==== > "Computers were invented to do Genealogy." > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Just wondering if these are related to Calcotes around McCall's Creek, Ms. ED Delores Tousinau wrote: > We are searching for information on James Jackson Owens and his wife Emma Sarah Calcote. There children were: Fancis Rogelia "Fannie" Owens > Robert Allen "Bob" Owens > Sarah Cornelia Owens B: 24 Feb 1861 D: 19 May 1936 > Sarah married William Daniel Tousinau in Wilkinson Co in Jan. 1877 and is buried at Oaklawn Cemetery in Centerville MS. > On her death certificate is shows her place of birth as Franklin Co and that her parents were from Franklin Co. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > Thank You > Billy and Delores Tousinau -- http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey Laird,White,Powhatan

Lyndell: Will be getting to this in next few days or sooner. Am catching up on some requests...I will definately see you get the info though. ED [email protected] wrote: > HI ED, > > I RECEIVED THE POWHATAN INFO YOU SENT. THANKS A MILLION. I HADN'T WRITTEN > TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO ASK YOU TO SEND MORE AND > ISN'T WASN'T COMING EASY. > > THE HART PART WAS FINE HOWEVER WHAT I HAD HOPED YOU WOULD DO IS SEND PAGE 20 > THROUGH 39 AND SEND IN INCREMENTS UNTIL I HAD IT ALL. (THERE. I HAVE SAID > IT.) HA. I HAVE BEEN TOO EMBARRASSED TO ASK THAT OF YOU. I HAD HOPED TO GET > IT ALL. > > THE HART NAMES YOU SENT AREN'T IN MY DIRECT LINE. I NEED TO KNOW THE > BEGINNING. (AFTER PAGE 19) I AM IN THE ELIZABETH HART MOKE LINE. > ELIZABETH IS THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN BRYAN. > > THANKS AGAIN. > > LYNDELL -- http://www.angelfire.com/art/Photographic Researching:Hall,Turner,Smith,King,Bailey Laird,White,Powhatan

We are searching for information on James Jackson Owens and his wife Emma Sarah Calcote. There children were: Fancis Rogelia "Fannie" Owens Robert Allen "Bob" Owens Sarah Cornelia Owens B: 24 Feb 1861 D: 19 May 1936 Sarah married William Daniel Tousinau in Wilkinson Co in Jan. 1877 and is buried at Oaklawn Cemetery in Centerville MS. On her death certificate is shows her place of birth as Franklin Co and that her parents were from Franklin Co. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Billy and Delores Tousinau

HI ED, I RECEIVED THE POWHATAN INFO YOU SENT. THANKS A MILLION. I HADN'T WRITTEN TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO ASK YOU TO SEND MORE AND ISN'T WASN'T COMING EASY. THE HART PART WAS FINE HOWEVER WHAT I HAD HOPED YOU WOULD DO IS SEND PAGE 20 THROUGH 39 AND SEND IN INCREMENTS UNTIL I HAD IT ALL. (THERE. I HAVE SAID IT.) HA. I HAVE BEEN TOO EMBARRASSED TO ASK THAT OF YOU. I HAD HOPED TO GET IT ALL. THE HART NAMES YOU SENT AREN'T IN MY DIRECT LINE. I NEED TO KNOW THE BEGINNING. (AFTER PAGE 19) I AM IN THE ELIZABETH HART MOKE LINE. ELIZABETH IS THE DAUGHTER OF JOHN BRYAN. THANKS AGAIN. LYNDELL