Do not dispair. You've done a great job. Yes, I was as disappointed as Sandra about the incomplete listings which I mentioned to her in a separate e-mail. However, sometimes the only link we have is knowing where someone is supposed to be buried. If we see only a partial listing not labeled as such, we assume that the info we have is wrong. Simply putting the word "partial listing" will be immensely helpful. I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be missing some listings. Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. Elise O'Neal McIntosh ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bob.Crawford@csmco.com> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > Hello Sandra and all, > > First, what a great experience that you had at the Cemetery. I hope some > day to have the same experience and WHAT enthusiasm you must have to move > forward with your research. > > Secondly, as the county coordinator for Copiah, I wanted to respond a bit > more: > > I'm assuming that you found the online cemetery listing at the Copiah site > and you are correct to say that it is incomplete. I'm going to add some > text to all of our cemetery listings that state that the listings should > be considered incomplete --even if done yesterday. Why? because many > markers are gone or unreadable and many cemeteries have no recorded > history of burials (at least in the early days of a cemetery). > > Genealogy data unless proven by 'official' documents (death certificates, > burials from funeral records, etc.) should always be considered > incomplete. These web cemetery listings should just provide a place to > search and document your family. We should always prove to ourselves and > to an 'uninterested' person of the facts. > > I apologize to you for leading you down the wrong path but it was not my, > nor the cemetery recorder's, intent to mislead. I just assumed that family > researchers would look at web data as a secondary source and still prove > the facts using official documents or actual visits. > > I hope that you help us by adding your research of the cemetery > information to the Copiah site so we can improve our web data. > > To all of us on this list, we should all realize that genealogy data must > be validated as much as possible. We should prove over and over again our > family tree. I know my family line has changed twice over the last several > years. > > Bob aka Rob > > > > > "Sandra Tipton" <dooziet@home.com> > 07/28/01 12:03 PM > Please respond to "Sandra Tipton" > > > To: MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com > cc: > Subject: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just > returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs > and > other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I > sent > a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). > Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at > the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was > almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an > online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence > for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. > > I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a > total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided > not to go. > > The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the > cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter > shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of > the > cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- > however, > there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to > believe > that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and > nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that > information? > I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information > pertaining > solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE > transcription > of the cemetery. > > I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong > Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood > Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I > was > so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. > > Sandra Sturgis Tipton > > Contact Information > EMail: dooziet@home.com > ICQ #: 3000482 > Home Phone: 615-451-1517 > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > The listkeeper is Annette Womack. > ACWomack@aol.com > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >
The Pine Bluff Baptist Church Cemetery in Copiah County is also transcribed in Volume 1 of the Mississippi Bible and Cemetery Records of the MS Genealogical Society. The transcription covers 15 single-spaced pages. Ronnie Margaret Farris McGinnis Editor-Publisher Mississippi Genealogical Connections Magazine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elise McIntosh" <emcintosh01@earthlink.net> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > Do not dispair. You've done a great job. Yes, I was as disappointed as > Sandra about the incomplete listings which I mentioned to her in a separate > e-mail. However, sometimes the only link we have is knowing where someone > is supposed to be buried. If we see only a partial listing not labeled as > such, we assume that the info we have is wrong. Simply putting the word > "partial listing" will be immensely helpful. > > I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery > transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried > there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list > from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be > missing some listings. > > Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, > but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. > > Elise O'Neal McIntosh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Bob.Crawford@csmco.com> > To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > > > Hello Sandra and all, > > > > First, what a great experience that you had at the Cemetery. I hope some > > day to have the same experience and WHAT enthusiasm you must have to move > > forward with your research. > > > > Secondly, as the county coordinator for Copiah, I wanted to respond a bit > > more: > > > > I'm assuming that you found the online cemetery listing at the Copiah site > > and you are correct to say that it is incomplete. I'm going to add some > > text to all of our cemetery listings that state that the listings should > > be considered incomplete --even if done yesterday. Why? because many > > markers are gone or unreadable and many cemeteries have no recorded > > history of burials (at least in the early days of a cemetery). > > > > Genealogy data unless proven by 'official' documents (death certificates, > > burials from funeral records, etc.) should always be considered > > incomplete. These web cemetery listings should just provide a place to > > search and document your family. We should always prove to ourselves and > > to an 'uninterested' person of the facts. > > > > I apologize to you for leading you down the wrong path but it was not my, > > nor the cemetery recorder's, intent to mislead. I just assumed that family > > researchers would look at web data as a secondary source and still prove > > the facts using official documents or actual visits. > > > > I hope that you help us by adding your research of the cemetery > > information to the Copiah site so we can improve our web data. > > > > To all of us on this list, we should all realize that genealogy data must > > be validated as much as possible. We should prove over and over again our > > family tree. I know my family line has changed twice over the last several > > years. > > > > Bob aka Rob > > > > > > > > > > "Sandra Tipton" <dooziet@home.com> > > 07/28/01 12:03 PM > > Please respond to "Sandra Tipton" > > > > > > To: MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com > > cc: > > Subject: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > > > I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just > > returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs > > and > > other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I > > sent > > a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). > > Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at > > the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was > > almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an > > online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence > > for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. > > > > I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a > > total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided > > not to go. > > > > The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the > > cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter > > shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of > > the > > cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- > > however, > > there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to > > believe > > that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and > > nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that > > information? > > I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information > > pertaining > > solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE > > transcription > > of the cemetery. > > > > I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong > > Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood > > Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I > > was > > so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. > > > > Sandra Sturgis Tipton > > > > Contact Information > > EMail: dooziet@home.com > > ICQ #: 3000482 > > Home Phone: 615-451-1517 > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > The listkeeper is Annette Womack. > > ACWomack@aol.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > Add or check queries at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Copiah > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com
I haaave the Pinebluff book, and also a supplement and updated from 3 years ago, will be happy to look up anything you need my husband has been in the hospital 10 days with a angeoplaasty today and a stent put in and my new pentium is still in the box on the floor it now will replace the hard drive that crashed two weeks ago give me a few days, and I will be happy to look up anything, my f amilya is also there and many reelatives Lynda At 12:06 AM 07/30/2001 -0500, Elise McIntosh wrote: >I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery >transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried >there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list >from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be >missing some listings. > >Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, >but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. > >Elise O'Neal McIntosh > God Bless Lynda