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    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Lynda Lindsey
    3. Denise STrong, from the Church and community sent the one I have plus an added eddition its a lot of names over 1000 and very old graves too At 10:33 PM 07/30/2001 -0500, Elise McIntosh wrote: >Lynda, >Thanks for the offer. The Pine Bluff Cemetery trustees is getting ready to >publish a new directory. I learned this from one of the trustees I went to >school with. > >I have the old one, but it was dated 86, I think. I'm on the list for one >of the new ones, and if I can possibly do it, I'll transcribe the >information and put it online for those who can't visit. > >E >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lynda Lindsey" <linda1@zebra.net> >To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:25 PM >Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > >> I haaave the Pinebluff book, and also a supplement and updated from 3 >years >> ago, >> >> will be happy to look up anything you need >> >> my husband has been in the hospital 10 days with a angeoplaasty today and >a >> stent put in >> >> and my new pentium is still in the box on the floor >> >> it now will replace the hard drive that crashed two weeks ago >> >> give me a few days, and I will be happy to look up anything, my f amilya >is >> also there and many reelatives >> >> Lynda >> At 12:06 AM 07/30/2001 -0500, Elise McIntosh wrote: >> >I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery >> >transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been >buried >> >there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated >list >> >from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may >be >> >missing some listings. >> > >> >Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time >consuming, >> >but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. >> > >> >Elise O'Neal McIntosh >> > >> >> God Bless >> Lynda >> >> >> ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== >> The listkeeper is Annette Womack. >> ACWomack@aol.com >> >> >> ============================== >> Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >> If you know how to reduce these risks. >> http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >> > > >==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > God Bless Lynda

    07/30/2001 04:48:32
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Elise McIntosh
    3. Lynda, Thanks for the offer. The Pine Bluff Cemetery trustees is getting ready to publish a new directory. I learned this from one of the trustees I went to school with. I have the old one, but it was dated 86, I think. I'm on the list for one of the new ones, and if I can possibly do it, I'll transcribe the information and put it online for those who can't visit. E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Lindsey" <linda1@zebra.net> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > I haaave the Pinebluff book, and also a supplement and updated from 3 years > ago, > > will be happy to look up anything you need > > my husband has been in the hospital 10 days with a angeoplaasty today and a > stent put in > > and my new pentium is still in the box on the floor > > it now will replace the hard drive that crashed two weeks ago > > give me a few days, and I will be happy to look up anything, my f amilya is > also there and many reelatives > > Lynda > At 12:06 AM 07/30/2001 -0500, Elise McIntosh wrote: > >I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery > >transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried > >there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list > >from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be > >missing some listings. > > > >Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, > >but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. > > > >Elise O'Neal McIntosh > > > > God Bless > Lynda > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > The listkeeper is Annette Womack. > ACWomack@aol.com > > > ============================== > Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > If you know how to reduce these risks. > http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html >

    07/30/2001 04:33:19
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Lynda Lindsey
    3. I haaave the Pinebluff book, and also a supplement and updated from 3 years ago, will be happy to look up anything you need my husband has been in the hospital 10 days with a angeoplaasty today and a stent put in and my new pentium is still in the box on the floor it now will replace the hard drive that crashed two weeks ago give me a few days, and I will be happy to look up anything, my f amilya is also there and many reelatives Lynda At 12:06 AM 07/30/2001 -0500, Elise McIntosh wrote: >I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery >transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried >there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list >from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be >missing some listings. > >Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, >but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. > >Elise O'Neal McIntosh > God Bless Lynda

    07/30/2001 04:25:40
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Sandra, I'm very glad you listened to that little voice in your head saying. "You are here. Go a head and stop by see for yourself. You don't know when you'll be this way again". The information you found is a true treasure for your research. Keep up th good work. You gotta love the mystery of it all. Jennye

    07/30/2001 03:18:22
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. MSGenConnections
    3. The Pine Bluff Baptist Church Cemetery in Copiah County is also transcribed in Volume 1 of the Mississippi Bible and Cemetery Records of the MS Genealogical Society. The transcription covers 15 single-spaced pages. Ronnie Margaret Farris McGinnis Editor-Publisher Mississippi Genealogical Connections Magazine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elise McIntosh" <emcintosh01@earthlink.net> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:06 AM Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > Do not dispair. You've done a great job. Yes, I was as disappointed as > Sandra about the incomplete listings which I mentioned to her in a separate > e-mail. However, sometimes the only link we have is knowing where someone > is supposed to be buried. If we see only a partial listing not labeled as > such, we assume that the info we have is wrong. Simply putting the word > "partial listing" will be immensely helpful. > > I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery > transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried > there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list > from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be > missing some listings. > > Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, > but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. > > Elise O'Neal McIntosh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Bob.Crawford@csmco.com> > To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > > > Hello Sandra and all, > > > > First, what a great experience that you had at the Cemetery. I hope some > > day to have the same experience and WHAT enthusiasm you must have to move > > forward with your research. > > > > Secondly, as the county coordinator for Copiah, I wanted to respond a bit > > more: > > > > I'm assuming that you found the online cemetery listing at the Copiah site > > and you are correct to say that it is incomplete. I'm going to add some > > text to all of our cemetery listings that state that the listings should > > be considered incomplete --even if done yesterday. Why? because many > > markers are gone or unreadable and many cemeteries have no recorded > > history of burials (at least in the early days of a cemetery). > > > > Genealogy data unless proven by 'official' documents (death certificates, > > burials from funeral records, etc.) should always be considered > > incomplete. These web cemetery listings should just provide a place to > > search and document your family. We should always prove to ourselves and > > to an 'uninterested' person of the facts. > > > > I apologize to you for leading you down the wrong path but it was not my, > > nor the cemetery recorder's, intent to mislead. I just assumed that family > > researchers would look at web data as a secondary source and still prove > > the facts using official documents or actual visits. > > > > I hope that you help us by adding your research of the cemetery > > information to the Copiah site so we can improve our web data. > > > > To all of us on this list, we should all realize that genealogy data must > > be validated as much as possible. We should prove over and over again our > > family tree. I know my family line has changed twice over the last several > > years. > > > > Bob aka Rob > > > > > > > > > > "Sandra Tipton" <dooziet@home.com> > > 07/28/01 12:03 PM > > Please respond to "Sandra Tipton" > > > > > > To: MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com > > cc: > > Subject: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > > > I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just > > returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs > > and > > other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I > > sent > > a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). > > Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at > > the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was > > almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an > > online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence > > for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. > > > > I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a > > total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided > > not to go. > > > > The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the > > cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter > > shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of > > the > > cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- > > however, > > there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to > > believe > > that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and > > nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that > > information? > > I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information > > pertaining > > solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE > > transcription > > of the cemetery. > > > > I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong > > Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood > > Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I > > was > > so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. > > > > Sandra Sturgis Tipton > > > > Contact Information > > EMail: dooziet@home.com > > ICQ #: 3000482 > > Home Phone: 615-451-1517 > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > The listkeeper is Annette Womack. > > ACWomack@aol.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > Add or check queries at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ms/Copiah > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

    07/30/2001 02:26:14
    1. Re: Census Records
    2. MSGenConnections
    3. Someone may have already mentioned this during the discussion on the Old Crystal Springs Cemetery and missing markers because of vandalism. There are several references to this cemetery in the Bible and Cemetery Records volumes published by the Mississippi Genealogical Society. For example, in Volume 1 (1954) there are 11 pages of single spaced transcriptions. Ronnie Margaret Farris McGinnis Editor-Publisher Mississippi Genealogical Connections Magazine http://www.msgenconnections.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda Lindsey" <linda1@zebra.net> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Census Records > not that I am aware of > > they were difficult the index for 1830/40 are at the copiah web site tho > > what name? > > > At 09:32 PM 07/28/2001 -0700, ned32dmd wrote: > >Lynda, > > > >Are there any census type records available for Copiah Co. for 1820? I am > >looking for a family that was in MS, the Copiah and Adams Co. area by 1817. > > > >Thank you, > >Mollie > > > > > >==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > >============================== > >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life > >If you know how to reduce these risks. > >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > > > > > God Bless > Lynda > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

    07/30/2001 02:17:42
    1. Clarification re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Sandra Tipton
    3. I just want to clarify a couple of things that I'm afraid have been misinterpreted regarding Old Crystal Springs Cemetery. You see, I too am a County Coordinator (for Concordia and Tensas Parishes in Louisiana). I realize the amount of time and effort that goes into getting data online (believe me!) and I appreciate it greatly. I also realize that in doing cemeteries (we have done between 30 and 40 in Concordia Parish), a transcription can be obsolete the same day it is done if a new burial takes place. In addition, I realize that a transcription or any other piece of information found online or passed from another person has to be verified. I'm afraid my prior comments may have appeared critical of the people involved in Copiah County and they were not intended in that manner. I can appreciate a researcher wanting to get his family's information online but not have time to transcribe an entire cemetery. However, for those of us not researching that family, it would be extremely helpful if the transcription of the stones of only this family were not linked as the cemetery transcription because it is not representative of the entire cemetery. They can easily be linked as family information and then anyone researching this family will find this very helpful. Part of my frustration was based on the small amount of time available to me during my visit to Crystal Springs. I was vacationing in Louisiana (I live in Tennessee) and wanted to spend the better part of a day in Copiah County. My mistake was in assuming that if the stones of my family were not in this transcription that they had been destroyed or were no longer present. Considering I had to drive 2+ hours to get to Crystal Springs and the last known transcription containing the information of my family was done in 1950s and there had been vandalism, we didn't take the day as planned to go there. I was concerned that it would be a waste of time and gas (where we were, it was $1.46 a gallon). Anyway, I hope I have clarified my position. I, in no way, meant to minimize the effort and sacrifice that goes into this work. My suggestions relate primarily to the way the files are presented....there are always going to be dummies like me. Thanks! Sandra S. Tipton Contact Information EMail: dooziet@home.com ICQ #: 3000482 Home Phone: 615-451-1517

    07/30/2001 12:30:54
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Elise McIntosh
    3. Do not dispair. You've done a great job. Yes, I was as disappointed as Sandra about the incomplete listings which I mentioned to her in a separate e-mail. However, sometimes the only link we have is knowing where someone is supposed to be buried. If we see only a partial listing not labeled as such, we assume that the info we have is wrong. Simply putting the word "partial listing" will be immensely helpful. I've also noticed some discrepancies in the Pine Bluff Cemetery transcription as well. Names of family members that I know have been buried there for years are missing from it. I'm working on getting an updated list from the cemetery board of trustees. But even then, as you say, it may be missing some listings. Thanks for ALL the great work you do as coordinator. It's time consuming, but speaking for all who use the site, we do appreciate it. Elise O'Neal McIntosh ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bob.Crawford@csmco.com> To: <MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > Hello Sandra and all, > > First, what a great experience that you had at the Cemetery. I hope some > day to have the same experience and WHAT enthusiasm you must have to move > forward with your research. > > Secondly, as the county coordinator for Copiah, I wanted to respond a bit > more: > > I'm assuming that you found the online cemetery listing at the Copiah site > and you are correct to say that it is incomplete. I'm going to add some > text to all of our cemetery listings that state that the listings should > be considered incomplete --even if done yesterday. Why? because many > markers are gone or unreadable and many cemeteries have no recorded > history of burials (at least in the early days of a cemetery). > > Genealogy data unless proven by 'official' documents (death certificates, > burials from funeral records, etc.) should always be considered > incomplete. These web cemetery listings should just provide a place to > search and document your family. We should always prove to ourselves and > to an 'uninterested' person of the facts. > > I apologize to you for leading you down the wrong path but it was not my, > nor the cemetery recorder's, intent to mislead. I just assumed that family > researchers would look at web data as a secondary source and still prove > the facts using official documents or actual visits. > > I hope that you help us by adding your research of the cemetery > information to the Copiah site so we can improve our web data. > > To all of us on this list, we should all realize that genealogy data must > be validated as much as possible. We should prove over and over again our > family tree. I know my family line has changed twice over the last several > years. > > Bob aka Rob > > > > > "Sandra Tipton" <dooziet@home.com> > 07/28/01 12:03 PM > Please respond to "Sandra Tipton" > > > To: MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com > cc: > Subject: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery > > I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just > returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs > and > other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I > sent > a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). > Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at > the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was > almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an > online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence > for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. > > I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a > total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided > not to go. > > The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the > cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter > shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of > the > cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- > however, > there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to > believe > that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and > nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that > information? > I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information > pertaining > solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE > transcription > of the cemetery. > > I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong > Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood > Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I > was > so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. > > Sandra Sturgis Tipton > > Contact Information > EMail: dooziet@home.com > ICQ #: 3000482 > Home Phone: 615-451-1517 > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > The listkeeper is Annette Womack. > ACWomack@aol.com > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

    07/29/2001 06:06:22
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Hello Sandra and all, First, what a great experience that you had at the Cemetery. I hope some day to have the same experience and WHAT enthusiasm you must have to move forward with your research. Secondly, as the county coordinator for Copiah, I wanted to respond a bit more: I'm assuming that you found the online cemetery listing at the Copiah site and you are correct to say that it is incomplete. I'm going to add some text to all of our cemetery listings that state that the listings should be considered incomplete --even if done yesterday. Why? because many markers are gone or unreadable and many cemeteries have no recorded history of burials (at least in the early days of a cemetery). Genealogy data unless proven by 'official' documents (death certificates, burials from funeral records, etc.) should always be considered incomplete. These web cemetery listings should just provide a place to search and document your family. We should always prove to ourselves and to an 'uninterested' person of the facts. I apologize to you for leading you down the wrong path but it was not my, nor the cemetery recorder's, intent to mislead. I just assumed that family researchers would look at web data as a secondary source and still prove the facts using official documents or actual visits. I hope that you help us by adding your research of the cemetery information to the Copiah site so we can improve our web data. To all of us on this list, we should all realize that genealogy data must be validated as much as possible. We should prove over and over again our family tree. I know my family line has changed twice over the last several years. Bob aka Rob "Sandra Tipton" <dooziet@home.com> 07/28/01 12:03 PM Please respond to "Sandra Tipton" To: MSCOPIAH-L@rootsweb.com cc: Subject: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs and other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I sent a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided not to go. The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of the cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- however, there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to believe that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that information? I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information pertaining solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE transcription of the cemetery. I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I was so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. Sandra Sturgis Tipton Contact Information EMail: dooziet@home.com ICQ #: 3000482 Home Phone: 615-451-1517 ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== The listkeeper is Annette Womack. ACWomack@aol.com ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

    07/29/2001 12:21:52
    1. CENSUS RECORDS
    2. ned32dmd
    3. Lynda, Thank you for your quick response. I have copies of the pertinent census pages for 1830 and 1840. I am researching the MCLELAND family, many variations of the spelling of the name. They went to MS from SC after 1810 and I have seen one reference they were in MS by 1817. There are several MCLELANDS who went to MS in the late 1830s and early 1840s who came from SC but the group I am looking for arrived earlier. I have requested a look-up in the book, COPIAH CO. TAXPAYERS 1825-1841 through the Copiah Co. website. The MCLELANDS who arrived early in MS were Hugh, James and William, probably from York Co., SC. My research leads me to believe that the part of the family I am researching decends from William. Thank you again for your help. Mollie

    07/29/2001 01:54:11
    1. Re: Census Records
    2. Lynda Lindsey
    3. not that I am aware of they were difficult the index for 1830/40 are at the copiah web site tho what name? At 09:32 PM 07/28/2001 -0700, ned32dmd wrote: >Lynda, > >Are there any census type records available for Copiah Co. for 1820? I am >looking for a family that was in MS, the Copiah and Adams Co. area by 1817. > >Thank you, >Mollie > > >==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > God Bless Lynda

    07/28/2001 04:48:58
    1. Census Records
    2. ned32dmd
    3. Lynda, Are there any census type records available for Copiah Co. for 1820? I am looking for a family that was in MS, the Copiah and Adams Co. area by 1817. Thank you, Mollie

    07/28/2001 03:32:05
    1. Re: Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Lynda Lindsey
    3. I am so glad you went, there has been vandals, always will be, but when we went 2 years ago, we found many of Our Lindsey family, and that is our home, Crystal Springs, the , cant remember, who is in charge of the cemetery, but its large, we had a blast, the only bad part was to the very end, which were old graves, glad you were able to find your family At 02:03 PM 07/28/2001 -0500, Sandra Tipton wrote: >I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just >returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs and >other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I sent >a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). >Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at >the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was >almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an >online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence >for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. > >I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a >total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided >not to go. > >The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the >cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter >shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of the >cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- however, >there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to believe >that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and >nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that information? >I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information pertaining >solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE transcription >of the cemetery. > >I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong >Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood >Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I was >so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. > >Sandra Sturgis Tipton > >Contact Information >EMail: dooziet@home.com >ICQ #: 3000482 >Home Phone: 615-451-1517 > > >==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== >The listkeeper is Annette Womack. >ACWomack@aol.com > > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > God Bless Lynda

    07/28/2001 08:59:47
    1. Old Crystal Springs Cemetery
    2. Sandra Tipton
    3. I have to take a second to vent just a little bit of frustration. I just returned from vacation where my plans included going to Crystal Springs and other parts of Copiah County to do some research. While I was gone, I sent a message to this list asking for directions (which were promptly sent). Part of that message indicated there had been some vandalism committed at the cemetery and (basically) not to get my hopes up. Well, since I was almost 2 hours away from Crystal Springs, I thought I would check for an online transcription just to make sure the markers were still in existence for my ancestors. I really didn't want to waste the trip. I did find an online transcription. In this transcription, there are a total of 38 stones listed. Mine were not among those listed so we decided not to go. The day we were leaving I asked my husband if we could just stop by the cemetery and look around (just to make sure). We did......I was in utter shock. Yes, there was evidence of some vandalism and the overall age of the cemetery. There were many broken, weathered and missing stones --- however, there were hundreds of stones present and legible. This leads me to believe that the online transcription must represent the contributor's family and nothing else. Why, then, does the link to it not indicate that information? I don't have a problem with a researcher contributing information pertaining solely to his/her family, but this should not be linked as THE transcription of the cemetery. I can't believe I almost didn't go! Not only did I find James Armstrong Sturgis and Sarah Elizabeth Wolfe Sturgis, but I also found Matt Lockwood Sturgis (grandson of above) and Charles E. Wolfe (brother of Sarah). I was so overwhelmed by it all that I had to choke back the tears. Sandra Sturgis Tipton Contact Information EMail: dooziet@home.com ICQ #: 3000482 Home Phone: 615-451-1517

    07/28/2001 08:03:53
    1. Re: Any 100+ year old Cemeteries or Baptist Churches in Wesson?
    2. Ann Williams
    3. Hi Chris, I was born in Wesson. Never lived there. Mom just went home to have me. I go back every fall. I love the area, a bit hard to find good paying work, thus I have never gone back for good. Anyway, the Beauregard cemetery is quite old. Graves from the early to mid 1800's there. Also the Sardis Cemetery and the Franklin Cemetery(I have all the names there) and the big cemetery, Wesson Cemetery is quite old indeed. It is quite large. There are a few I know of that have no markers. One is a Bailey Cemetery and the other was by the old Hotel of ill repute that was there when the town was booming with Colonel Wesson cotton mill. We had Mississippi silk, the finest cotton grown. Town boomed while the railroad went thru and made stops. Then the bank called in all notes and lots of folks lost everything. But I digress.... There are lots of old cemeteries. I believe that Sardis is Baptist. The Copiah county website has them all marked on a map. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mscopiah/Help/Cemeteries_of_Copiah/cemeteries_of_copiah.html Annie Chris and Allana Bosch wrote: > > Are there any 100+ year old Baptist churches in Wesson, MS? I'd like to see > if there are any church records or a possible church history mentioning my > family. My grandmother, Mittie Lucinda Cupit (1876 - 1969) and her parents > probably belonged to one of the Baptist churches. Her father was Cyrus > William Cupit (1844 - 1900) and her mother was Nancy Naoma Porter Cupit. > Mittie married Robert Augustus Franks (1871 - 1920) sometime before 1901, > most likely by a Baptist preacher in or near Wesson. Mittie & Robert had > two children born in Wesson (Lucille b. 1901, & Ruth b. 1903) but had moved > to Louisiana by 1910. > Does anyone know also of 100+ year old cemeteries in or near Wesson? Most > likely, her parents would have been buried there in Cupit or Porter plots. > I'd appreciate any help you can give. I live in Louisiana and hope to visit > these places. Thanks, Allana Bosch > > ==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

    07/25/2001 02:45:56
    1. Re: The Cupit and Franks Families of Wesson, MS
    2. Lynda Lindsey
    3. HEY thats my LINE too, Cupit and Kinnebrewthe 1850 copiah county census is online This is from my GEDCOM Cupit, Agnes b: 1789 Cupit, Alexander b: 1816 in S.C. Cupit, Ann b: 1772 d: 5 DEC 1841 Cupit, Daniel b: BET. 1775 - 1780 in Ireland d: ABT. 1825 in Near Shreveport, LA Cupit, Daniel b: ABT. 1810 Cupit, David b: ABT. 1775 Cupit, Elizabeth b: 20 APR 1792 in SC Cupit, James b: 1794 d: 8 SEP 1850 Cupit, James , Colman Cupit, James R b: 1814 in S.C. Cupit, Jannet Ann b: 1817 Cupit, John b: 22 JUL 1818 in SC Cupit, John III Cupit, Martha Cupit, Mary Jane b: 1805 in South Carolina d: 1860 in Franklin County , MS Cupit, Robert John b: 4 JUL 1787 in Ireland d: 28 AUG 1858 Cupit, William you can email me at linda1@zeba.net At 10:49 AM 07/25/2001 -0500, Chris and Allana Bosch wrote: > I'm researching the Cupit family as my grandmother was Mittie Lucinda >Cupit born in about 1876 in Wesson, Copiah Cty., MS. She's listed in the >book, "A History of the Cupit Family" by John Thomas Cupit on page 30. (Some >of her data needs a correction, if anyone is interested.) > > My grandmother, Mittie Lucinda Cupit's grandparents, parents, brothers & >sisters, husband & children are as follows: > Grandparents Alexander Cupit (b.1820) & Lucinda Wilson > Parents Cyrus William Cupit (b. 1844) * Nancy Naoma Porter > Cupit Siblings David Alexander, William, Mary Burnsie, Katherine, > Rose M., Melissa Ann, & Gabriella "Ella" > Husband Robert Augustus Franks (B. May, 1871) > Children Lucille, Ruth, Robert, and Mary Franks >Mittie and Robert Franks and their children had moved from Wesson by 1910 >and were living in Louisiana (Tangipahoa Parish) by then. > >I have a photo of my grandmother and "Aunt Ella" - from about the late >1950s. Ella married William Hatchell and their children were Clyde, Lola >and William Hatchell. > If you know any of these family members or their descendents, I'd love to >hear from them. > Allana Bosch > > > >==== MSCOPIAH Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life >If you know how to reduce these risks. >http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html > > > God Bless Lynda

    07/25/2001 07:49:43
    1. Any 100+ year old Cemeteries or Baptist Churches in Wesson?
    2. Chris and Allana Bosch
    3. Are there any 100+ year old Baptist churches in Wesson, MS? I'd like to see if there are any church records or a possible church history mentioning my family. My grandmother, Mittie Lucinda Cupit (1876 - 1969) and her parents probably belonged to one of the Baptist churches. Her father was Cyrus William Cupit (1844 - 1900) and her mother was Nancy Naoma Porter Cupit. Mittie married Robert Augustus Franks (1871 - 1920) sometime before 1901, most likely by a Baptist preacher in or near Wesson. Mittie & Robert had two children born in Wesson (Lucille b. 1901, & Ruth b. 1903) but had moved to Louisiana by 1910. Does anyone know also of 100+ year old cemeteries in or near Wesson? Most likely, her parents would have been buried there in Cupit or Porter plots. I'd appreciate any help you can give. I live in Louisiana and hope to visit these places. Thanks, Allana Bosch

    07/25/2001 05:54:51
    1. The Cupit and Franks Families of Wesson, MS
    2. Chris and Allana Bosch
    3. I'm researching the Cupit family as my grandmother was Mittie Lucinda Cupit born in about 1876 in Wesson, Copiah Cty., MS. She's listed in the book, "A History of the Cupit Family" by John Thomas Cupit on page 30. (Some of her data needs a correction, if anyone is interested.) My grandmother, Mittie Lucinda Cupit's grandparents, parents, brothers & sisters, husband & children are as follows: Grandparents Alexander Cupit (b.1820) & Lucinda Wilson Parents Cyrus William Cupit (b. 1844) * Nancy Naoma Porter Cupit Siblings David Alexander, William, Mary Burnsie, Katherine, Rose M., Melissa Ann, & Gabriella "Ella" Husband Robert Augustus Franks (B. May, 1871) Children Lucille, Ruth, Robert, and Mary Franks Mittie and Robert Franks and their children had moved from Wesson by 1910 and were living in Louisiana (Tangipahoa Parish) by then. I have a photo of my grandmother and "Aunt Ella" - from about the late 1950s. Ella married William Hatchell and their children were Clyde, Lola and William Hatchell. If you know any of these family members or their descendents, I'd love to hear from them. Allana Bosch

    07/25/2001 04:49:08
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