Dear Dennis, So good to hear from you, again. And thank you for sharing some additional information. I did not have the reference re HISTORY OF THE PRIMITIVE BAPTISTS OF MISSISSIPPI (1853) by Benjamin Griffin. I guess they should have a copy at the Mississippi College Library. I thank you for that. As you say, I've spent a lot of time thinking about and researching the HARVEY family line--particularly the various references to their Primitive Baptist ministry. I guess my chief observation is deductive in nature, i.e., Joel Vincent Harvey, Sr. died in 1836. This date is confirmed via the HARVEY FAMILY BIBLE, as follows: "Joe Harvey Senr: Husband of the above named Nancy Clayton was born 1764 died at the age of 72--" [i.e., 1836] and that point in time roughly appears to be the same timeframe when a number of the remaining younger HARVEY family members moved up from south Mississippi into Attala County following the Choctaw Cessions of 1833. According to Fannie Coleman's scrapbook: "Soon after the formation of the town [Kosciusko] in 1835, the Primitive Baptists, being quite numerous among the early settlers, organized and built a house of worship about one-half mile southeast of Kosciusko. Therefore, the early Attala County references to Joel Harvey, of which there are several, would almost certainly have to be references to Joel Vincent Harvey, Jr. (1788-1871), his father having been deceased by that point in time. One such reference source is THE HISTORY OF FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH KOSCIUSKO, MISSISSIPPI, 1848-1998, by Anne Hughes Porter, Church Historian, and the Church Sesquicentennial History Committee, pp. 20-21: "Again in 1854, it was removed . . . . Joel Harvey, a Primitive Baptist minister, sometimes preached in the courthouse, which was a small brick building. . . . In 1856, the church passed a resolution to make an effort to build a new meeting house at the old site near Kosciusko. Joel Harvey continued as pastor until 1847, when G. W. Burt was elected." It seems to me that these dates are fairly conclusive. What do you think? Seem reasonable to you? Dennis, is Johnny Boswell (son of Mims Boswell) your kin by any chance? I knew Johnny (and Mr. Mims) years ago back in Kosy. Best regards, Walter Goss Montgomey, AL (KHS Class of 1969) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis K. Boswell" <dennisb@mindspring.com> To: <msattala@rootsweb.com>; <msattala@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala County Revolutionary War Vets > Dear Walter, > > When you said in your note, ". . .it is believed that his son, Joel > Vincent Harvey, Jr. (1788-1871; who married > Mary Snow), who was an early Primitive Baptist Preacher to Kosciusko > and Attala County. . ." you reminded me that in my own Harvey > research, I also was uncertain if Joel Jr. "was an early Primitive > Baptist Preacher." The reason being that in the literature, the name > "Joel Harvey," in reference to a PB Preacher, appears many times > without either Sr. or Jr. appearing after it. > > I just looked over my paper Harvey files; the bibles, et al. and > could not find anything that pinned down whether Joel Jr. was a PB > minister. So, I turned to my copy of HISTORY OF THE PRIMITIVE > BAPTISTS OF MISSISSIPPI by Benjamin Griffin (of Holmes County, > Mississippi, published in 1853 and found nothing confirming that Joel > Harvey Jr. was a PB Minister, but many references to "J Harvey," > "Joel Harvey" as "brother" and "Elder" in the 1843, 1845 time frame, > but again, nothing to distinguish Sr. from Jr. > > Like you, Walter, I have always taken it as a given that Sr. was a PB > Minister, and have always been uncertain if Jr. ever rose to the rank > of Minister. > > Have you in your files any primary source documents that irrefutably > verify that Sr. was a PB minister and tell us to what level in the PB > Church Jr. rose to? > > Good to hear from you again. > > At 12:26 PM 11/15/2008, Walter Goss wrote: >>Dear Dennis, >> >>We've talked before. Possibly this is of interest. Joel Vincent Harvey, >>Sr. (1764-1836) was a confirmed Revolutionary War Veteran. As you know, >>it >>is believed that his son, Joel Vincent Harvey, Jr. (1788-1871; who married >>Mary Snow), who was an early Primitive Baptist Preacher to Kosciusko and >>Attala County, is generally believed/reportedly buried in Attala County, >>the >>old cemetery location being an unknown/lost postal location (somewhere up >>around Ethel--reportedly he died 30 Nov 1871 in the old Wells Community of >>Attala Co., MS). His early ministry is documented here and there in early >>Attala County papers and historical records. I believe his Revolutionary >>War father (Joel, Sr.) is actually buried in south Mississippi, probably >>in >>Copiah or Lawrence County. Dudley William Harvey (1818-1900) married >>Elizabeth "Betty" Locke, both being in my direct line and both are buried >>at >>Providence Primitive Baptist Church in northwest Attala County. "Dud" is >>mentioned a time or two in the Jason Niles' Diary, as is his father, Joel. >>Dudley was the son of Joel, Jr. Note the large number of related HARVEY >>family members included in the early 1840 and 1841 Censuses for Attala. >>At >>any rate, this is an authentic Revolutionary War family line which had a >>strong presence in Attala County. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Walter Goss >>Montgomery, AL >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Dennis K. Boswell" <dennisb@mindspring.com> >>To: <doug_36c@yahoo.com>; <msattala@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:03 AM >>Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Attala County Revolutionary War Vets >> >> >> > Doug, I am aware that there are many sons and daughters of >> > Revolutionary War soldiers, but was unaware that a genuine >> > Revolutionary War Soldier was buried in Attala County. >> > >> > From my own review of the Attala County Cemetery Book, it would be >> > my guess that yours may be the only Revolutionary War Soldier resting >> > in Attala County. >> > >> > Who might that veteran be and in what cemetery does he rest? >> > >> > At 09:03 AM 11/15/2008, you wrote: >> >>This has been posted before about about the Southern Campaign >> >>American Revolutionary Pension statements. >> >> >> >>I only know of one Rev. War Veteran that's buried in Attala County. >> >>No doubt there are others. >> >> >> >>Click on this site for the roster/pension statements: >> >>http://southerncampaign.org/pen/index.htm >> >> >> >>Doug >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >>MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Dennis K. Boswell >> > 13910 French Oaks >> > Helotes, TX 78023 >> > >> > Telephone: (210) 447-7321 >> > Email: dennisb@mindspring.com >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Regards, > > Dennis K. Boswell > 13910 French Oaks > Helotes, TX 78023 > > Telephone: (210) 447-7321 > Email: dennisb@mindspring.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >