Robert, I have ancestors who came to Texas very early, too. Isham Burnett came from Lincoln County, Tennessee to Red River County, Texas in 1840, while it was still a Republic. Texas Land Office records are available online. I'm sure you know that Texas land records are kept separate from the US because Texas never ceded its public lands to the US. Part of the agreement for statehood, I think. My Attala ancestors were Stuckeys mostly. One BLM record shows one of them as early as 1837 and several in 1841 in Attala. Some of them came to Texas after statehood. The possible surname of your Attala ancestor's wife as "Tubb" makes me wonder if she was a Choctaw. In some records Native Americans in those parts were surnamed Tubby and Socky. I know of no way to find out for sure. I, too, am grateful to Everette and the others whose roots go back to Attala. At least five generations of my Stuckeys lived in Attala County!!! Martha Boggs -----Original Message----- From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert B. Walters Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:46 PM To: Everette Carr Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator Hi Martha: Tfhe BLM/GLO records are complete, I believe, with respect to all patents that were issued covering lands located in Attala County, MIssissippi. Robert Walters, my great-grandfather, applied for patents whille he was living in Attala County, but the patents were not actually issued until he had already migrated to Texas. He and the Walters "clan" left Attala County in the summer of 1835, arriving in Texas in December of 1835, at which time the area now known as Texas was still part of Mexico. Patents were issued on the Mississippi lands in the name of Robert Walters, as follows: BLM (Bureau of Land Management) Records indicate that the following Patents were issued to Robert Walters on lands in Attala County, Mississippi: Document No. 15722 Serial No. MS 1140_.402 Issue Date: June 5, 1844 Acres: 80.34, described as the E 1/2 of SE 1/4 of Section 18, T14N, R7E. Docement No. 5473 Serial No. MS 0970_.113 Issue Date: February 1, 1841 Acres: 40.17, described as the N 1/2 of E 1/2 of NE 1/4 of Section 19, T14N, R7E Robert Walters also acquired the following patent on land in Holmes County, Mississippi: Document No. 15723 Serial No. MS 1140_.403 Issue Date: June 5, 1842 Acres: 84.98, described as the E 1/2 of NW 1/4 of Section 6, T15N, R5E. Holmes County is situated adjacent to Attala County on the west. The Big Black River is the boundary line between these two counties in this location. Please note that the above three land patents are the only patents acquired by Robert Walters on land in the State of Mississippi. As mentioned above, I believe Robert Walters made his home on the land described as being in Sections 18 and 19 of T14N, R7E. This is the Township in which the town of Kosciusko is located. You are correct Martha in that Attala County was created on December 23, 1833, from lands in the Choctaw Cession. I am interested in following the chain of title to the above described lands out of the patent and into successive owners. Since the courthouse in Kosciusco was destroyed by fire in 1858, and all records lost, I am just wondering if any records (or data) might have been kept in another place, covering title from patent date to 1858. Robert Walters was married when he was living in the area which became Attala and Yazoo Counties (1820-1835). His wife migrated with him to Texas, but we have never been able to determine her name, except to believe it is "Tubb". I doubt that I will ever find a marriage record, but I keep looking at every document I can find with the hope her name will show-up some place. It's nice corresponding with you; and, I want to thank you, Everette, and the others for the fine work you are doing in Attala County. Robert B. Walters > From: lmboggs@suddenlink.net > To: msattala@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:40:25 -0600 > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > The BLM/GLO records have land patents back as far as 1841 for Attala County. > The county was formed in 1833, I think. Am I correct, Everette? > > Here is the link: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ > > Martha Boggs > > -----Original Message----- > From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Robert B. Walters > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:57 AM > To: Everette Carr > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > > Hello Everette: > > > > And a Happy New Year to you, also. > > > > I am aware that the courthouse in Attala County had several fires > through the years; and, insofar as I have been able to determine, > there are no land records from the original Patent date until 1858. > > > > Do you know of any place where some records might have been stored and > not lost in the fires? Several marriages and many land transactions in > my family took place during the time period 1820-1858. I would like to > find at least some of these records, if they exist. > > > > Do you know what the lawyers are doing when they examine title to > lands from present day back to the original Patent? > > > > Many thanks, Everette. > > > > Robert B. Walters > > 929 County Road 870 > > Douglass, Texas 75943 > > > From: attalacoordinator@gmail.com > > To: msattala@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:35:46 -0500 > > Subject: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > > > > > Happy New Year to one and all! > > > > With hopes that activity picks up on the list during 2010, > > > > > > Everette Carr > > List Administrator > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert, regarding "Tubb," you might want to subscribe to CHOCTAW-SOUTHEAST-L@rootsweb.com and ask your question. There are many on that web site who speak Choctaw fluently. I have no doubt someone would be able to help you as they have me on so many past occasions. Good luck, Robert Dennis Boswell At 02:01 PM 1/3/2010, Martha Boggs wrote: >Robert, I have ancestors who came to Texas very early, too. Isham Burnett >came from Lincoln County, Tennessee to Red River County, Texas in 1840, >while it was still a Republic. Texas Land Office records are available >online. I'm sure you know that Texas land records are kept separate from >the US because Texas never ceded its public lands to the US. Part of the >agreement for statehood, I think. > >My Attala ancestors were Stuckeys mostly. One BLM record shows one of them >as early as 1837 and several in 1841 in Attala. Some of them came to Texas >after statehood. > >The possible surname of your Attala ancestor's wife as "Tubb" makes me >wonder if she was a Choctaw. In some records Native Americans in those >parts were surnamed Tubby and Socky. I know of no way to find out for sure. > > >I, too, am grateful to Everette and the others whose roots go back to >Attala. At least five generations of my Stuckeys lived in Attala County!!! > >Martha Boggs > >-----Original Message----- >From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Robert B. Walters >Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:46 PM >To: Everette Carr >Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > >Hi Martha: > > > >Tfhe BLM/GLO records are complete, I believe, with respect to all patents >that were issued covering lands located in Attala County, MIssissippi. >Robert Walters, my great-grandfather, applied for patents whille he was >living in Attala County, but the patents were not actually issued until he >had already migrated to Texas. He and the Walters "clan" left Attala County >in the summer of 1835, arriving in Texas in December of 1835, at which time >the area now known as Texas was still part of Mexico. Patents were issued on >the Mississippi lands in the name of Robert Walters, as follows: > > > >BLM (Bureau of Land Management) Records indicate that the following Patents >were issued to Robert Walters on lands in Attala County, Mississippi: > >Document No. 15722 >Serial No. MS 1140_.402 >Issue Date: June 5, 1844 >Acres: 80.34, described as the E 1/2 of SE 1/4 of Section 18, T14N, R7E. > > > >Docement No. 5473 >Serial No. MS 0970_.113 >Issue Date: February 1, 1841 >Acres: 40.17, described as the N 1/2 of E 1/2 of NE 1/4 of Section 19, T14N, >R7E > > > >Robert Walters also acquired the following patent on land in Holmes County, >Mississippi: > >Document No. 15723 >Serial No. MS 1140_.403 >Issue Date: June 5, 1842 >Acres: 84.98, described as the E 1/2 of NW 1/4 of Section 6, T15N, R5E. > >Holmes County is situated adjacent to Attala County on the west. The Big >Black River is the boundary line between these two counties in this >location. > >Please note that the above three land patents are the only patents acquired >by Robert Walters on land in the State of Mississippi. > >As mentioned above, I believe Robert Walters made his home on the land >described as being in Sections 18 and 19 of T14N, R7E. This is the Township >in which the town of Kosciusko is located. > > >You are correct Martha in that Attala County was created on December 23, >1833, from lands in the Choctaw Cession. > > > >I am interested in following the chain of title to the above described lands >out of the patent and into successive owners. Since the courthouse in >Kosciusco was destroyed by fire in 1858, and all records lost, I am just >wondering if any records (or data) might have been kept in another place, >covering title from patent date to 1858. > > > >Robert Walters was married when he was living in the area which became >Attala and Yazoo Counties (1820-1835). His wife migrated with him to Texas, >but we have never been able to determine her name, except to believe it is >"Tubb". I doubt that I will ever find a marriage record, but I keep looking >at every document I can find with the hope her name will show-up some place. > > > >It's nice corresponding with you; and, I want to thank you, Everette, and >the others for the fine work you are doing in Attala County. > > > >Robert B. Walters > > > > > > > From: lmboggs@suddenlink.net > > To: msattala@rootsweb.com > > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:40:25 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > > > The BLM/GLO records have land patents back as far as 1841 for Attala >County. > > The county was formed in 1833, I think. Am I correct, Everette? > > > > Here is the link: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/ > > > > Martha Boggs > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:msattala-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Robert B. Walters > > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:57 AM > > To: Everette Carr > > Subject: Re: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > > > > > Hello Everette: > > > > > > > > And a Happy New Year to you, also. > > > > > > > > I am aware that the courthouse in Attala County had several fires > > through the years; and, insofar as I have been able to determine, > > there are no land records from the original Patent date until 1858. > > > > > > > > Do you know of any place where some records might have been stored and > > not lost in the fires? Several marriages and many land transactions in > > my family took place during the time period 1820-1858. I would like to > > find at least some of these records, if they exist. > > > > > > > > Do you know what the lawyers are doing when they examine title to > > lands from present day back to the original Patent? > > > > > > > > Many thanks, Everette. > > > > > > > > Robert B. Walters > > > > 929 County Road 870 > > > > Douglass, Texas 75943 > > > > > From: attalacoordinator@gmail.com > > > To: msattala@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 10:35:46 -0500 > > > Subject: [MSATTALA] Happy New Year from the List Administrator > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year to one and all! > > > > > > With hopes that activity picks up on the list during 2010, > > > > > > > > > Everette Carr > > > List Administrator > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >MSATTALA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kindest Regards, Dennis K. Boswell 13910 French Oaks Helotes, TX 78023 Telephone: (210) 447-7321 Email: dennisb@mindspring.com